Re: The role of selenium and other nutrients

[Guest guest]

http://www.breakfornews.com/articles/Top100AidsInconsistencies.htm

Peace,

Josh G.

Contact information:

Phone: 765-286-0671

Email: joshua.gulick@...

Website: http://rare-earth-minerals.com (homemade rare earth supplement)

[Guest guest]

Hi Lana,

Interesting article and hypothesis on hivs role in aids. I take 400 mcg

of selenium a day. I have tried to take whey protein daily as a shake

w/soy milk...for cysteine, glutothione and tryptophan supplementation.

(get all the amino acids).

I am curious what some of the dissidents here think of the article by

Harold D. .

Thanks for the info!

paul

On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 10:55:24 -0000 " collectivist " <hoppbunny@...>

writes:

> There is a free book available to either download or read on-line.

> The author believes that both prevention and control of HIV lies

> essentially in a high selenium intake of between 400-1000 mcg daily.

>

> He also discusses the role of cysteine, glutamine and tryptophan. He

>

> talks about how Luc Montagnier reached the conclusion that HIV

> positivity alone does not lead to AIDS and how his suspicions that

> mycoplasma play an important role have been impossible to

> substantiate because he cannot find any money to do any studies to

> bear out this theory.

>

> http://www.hdfoster.com/WhatReallyCausesAIDS.pdf

>

> If you want to skip directly to the treatment recommendations of the

>

> book, you can start with page 157. The part dealing directly with

> supplements starts on page 164.

>

> Lana

[Guest guest]

,

As you probably know, AIDS dissidents come in wide a variety of

flavours. :-) They range from those who believe that the whole thing

is a complete crock, to those who believe that HIV is a kind of

indicator that something is not right with the immune system, but

that current AIDS meds might be more harmful than the disease.

Personally, I have an open mind about the whole thing, as the last

thing I would want to do is to emulate those in orthodox medicine

whose minds have snapped shut after having long since made their

decisions, refusing to look beyond--come hell or high water.

There is research that selenium is lacking in those labeled HIV+. The

same thing has been found in people with hepatitis C and possibly

with all long-standing viral infections (I know that there are some

who also believe that hepatitis C does not exist, but let's not go

there!). Zinc has also been found deficient and is deemed important

for a strong immune system.

I might add that it's my husband and not me that has been found HIV+.

Personally I would NEVER allow anyone to test me! I have observed

some very interesting things with him when he had stopped taking his

AIDS meds, stopped eating crap and began supplementing.

Unfortunately, he is not the type of person who likes to make any

type of effort regarding his health (or anything else for that

matter), so he did not continue on the path that was giving good

results and has developed some very serious problems with his health.

I gave up trying to help him long ago, but my interest in the subject

remains and I have been using complementary medicine myself for many

years. I think my husband actually enjoys being ill at this point, as

it nicely relieves him of any responsibilities.

Lana

J Purcell <freelightexpress@j...> wrote:

> Hi Lana,

>

> Interesting article and hypothesis on hivs role in aids. I take 400

mcg

> of selenium a day. I have tried to take whey protein daily as a

shake

> w/soy milk...for cysteine, glutothione and tryptophan

supplementation.

> (get all the amino acids).

>

> I am curious what some of the dissidents here think of the article

by

> Harold D. .

>

> Thanks for the info!

>

>

> paul

>

>

>

> On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 10:55:24 -0000 " collectivist " <hoppbunny@h...>

> writes:

> > There is a free book available to either download or read on-

line.

> > The author believes that both prevention and control of HIV lies

> > essentially in a high selenium intake of between 400-1000 mcg

daily.

> >

> > He also discusses the role of cysteine, glutamine and tryptophan.

He

> >

> > talks about how Luc Montagnier reached the conclusion that HIV

> > positivity alone does not lead to AIDS and how his suspicions

that

> > mycoplasma play an important role have been impossible to

> > substantiate because he cannot find any money to do any studies

to

> > bear out this theory.

> >

> > http://www.hdfoster.com/WhatReallyCausesAIDS.pdf

> >

> > If you want to skip directly to the treatment recommendations of

the

> >

> > book, you can start with page 157. The part dealing directly with

> > supplements starts on page 164.

> >

> > Lana

[Guest guest]

Lana,

I read the online book by this person and found it sorely lacking as

anything remotely resembling 'aids dissidence.' It commits the

familiar errors of many AIDS Apologists in attacking Duesberg as if

he represented the entirety of Dissident thought. He still believes

HIV exists and causes illness under the right circumstances or co-

factors. So, unless you're gonna call Luc Montagnier a Dissident, I

don't think he qualifies. The author also mentions a few other

obscure players like Dr. Wilner, while completely ignoring the Perth

Group and Dr. o Giraldo, who is president of The Group for the

Scientific Reappraisal of the HIV/AIDS Hypothesis and given many

lectures around the world, invited by Health Ministers and Medical

Schools in Mexico and South Africa and advocates for the use of

Selenium www.robertogiraldo.com, and many others.

Anyway, I don't even know we can say " HIV positivity " is a sign of a

stressed immune system or oxidative stressive, except the diagnosis

itself which is death-dealing. It may just as well be a crank call as

a wake-up call and we won't easily know the difference if at all.

There are other tests along with a thorough and individual health

history which could more specifically and accurately reveal one's

state of health. I think it is dangerous, and disengenous to suggest,

that one should act as though they may be immune suppressed if we

don't know one is. It is like seeing the glass half empty. I prefer

to place my faith and hope, absent the burden of proof to the

contrary, in immune sufficiency and sustainability. Wouldn't you?

[speaking rhetorically to everyone]

I'm sorry to hear about your husband who is seeming to give up or who

can't see a better way. It seems you heading for divorce or death.

These supplement or nutritional recommendations are in-line with what

everyone should consider, irrespective of " HIV positivity. " Unless

you are treating oxidative stress of the misdiagnosis or

mitochondrial damage brought on by the " AIDS drug cocktails " I would

not recommend any treatment for " HIV positivity. " How will you know

if you are better, should you test " HIV negative " after a period of

detoxification? Some do, but others do not, so that is not fair to

tell people they will if they follow some protocol.

Healthfully and Hopefully,

Jon Landis

HIV/AIDS Alternative Views

http://forums.delphiforums.com/innocuous

> > Hi Lana,

> >

> > Interesting article and hypothesis on hivs role in aids. I take

400

> mcg

> > of selenium a day. I have tried to take whey protein daily as a

> shake

> > w/soy milk...for cysteine, glutothione and tryptophan

> supplementation.

> > (get all the amino acids).

> >

> > I am curious what some of the dissidents here think of the

article

> by

> > Harold D. .

> >

> > Thanks for the info!

> >

> >

> > paul

> >

> >

> >

> > On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 10:55:24 -0000 " collectivist " <hoppbunny@h...>

> > writes:

> > > There is a free book available to either download or read on-

> line.

> > > The author believes that both prevention and control of HIV

lies

> > > essentially in a high selenium intake of between 400-1000 mcg

> daily.

> > >

> > > He also discusses the role of cysteine, glutamine and

tryptophan.

> He

> > >

> > > talks about how Luc Montagnier reached the conclusion that HIV

> > > positivity alone does not lead to AIDS and how his suspicions

> that

> > > mycoplasma play an important role have been impossible to

> > > substantiate because he cannot find any money to do any studies

> to

> > > bear out this theory.

> > >

> > > http://www.hdfoster.com/WhatReallyCausesAIDS.pdf

> > >

> > > If you want to skip directly to the treatment recommendations

of

> the

> > >

> > > book, you can start with page 157. The part dealing directly

with

> > > supplements starts on page 164.

> > >

> > > Lana