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Congrats and .

This is such great news , I am happy for all of yes,

I have been also letting Darran learn to cook with supervision, also Darran's

sister is now in the seamest of home ec at school for cooking so they are both

learning and she and Darranhave cooked us some pretty neat things , they made

home made chillie and home made brownies last week.

so keep me updated about them and how it is going.

Carolyn

Learning to cook

I have not spent much time teaching (27, DS) and (32, CP/MR) to

cook primarily because I had rather cook than eat. I love to cook! Well, I

said to myself, " Self, and need to learn how to cook. It's

essential to their quest for independence. " So, a couple of weeks ago, I

began instructing them in the fine art of stuffing your face. Am happy to

report they are taking to it like ducks to water. Yesterday evening they

boiled some seashell macaroni in a glass pot, grated some cheese, drained

the pasta, added milk, butter and cheese, popped it in the oven and while it

melted, sliced some fresh tomatoes which they sprinkled with celery salt. It

was a very nice meal and they did it all by themselves. I am so proud of

them!

granny

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in time be utterly lost. " -- Walt Whitman

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would love to learn to cook but it is difficult with the

wheelchair. I could have the kitchen redone to suit him but that would make

it very difficult for me and I would still do most of it. He does use the

microwave. But he collects cookbooks and recipes and such. And loves to

eat.

A friend of mine has 2 adult sons with DS, around 30 yo, one is

adopted, and they live in their own house with parents living not too far

away. They do their own cooking and everything. There is some supervision

but at times they are alone for several days and they get along fine. I am

so proud of them. The older one, who does most of the cooking, is diabetic

and they have to account for that. And the younger one is legally blind and

almost deaf. But they manage. Isn't it amazing?

Jessie

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Wow Granny!! Ask and if I can take some lessions from them???

Cheers!

Sara (who made a cheese cake on Tuesday and promised NEVER to do that

again!)

--On Saturday, February 17, 2001, 7:44 AM -0600 " B. S. Pyle "

<bspyle@...> wrote:

> Yesterday evening they

> boiled some seashell macaroni in a glass pot, grated some cheese, drained

> the pasta, added milk, butter and cheese, popped it in the oven and while

> it melted, sliced some fresh tomatoes which they sprinkled with celery

> salt. It was a very nice meal and they did it all by themselves. I am so

> proud of them!

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, and I are acquainted with a pair of brothers, neither DS but

both MR, both in their 40s, who live in their own home. Their NDA sister and

her family live nearby. They cope very well.

granny

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in time be utterly lost. " -- Walt Whitman

http://www.bspyle.com/granny.html

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> would love to learn to cook but it is difficult with the

> wheelchair. I could have the kitchen redone to suit him but that would

make

> it very difficult for me and I would still do most of it. He does use the

> microwave. But he collects cookbooks and recipes and such. And loves to

> eat.

> A friend of mine has 2 adult sons with DS, around 30 yo, one is

> adopted, and they live in their own house with parents living not too far

> away. They do their own cooking and everything. There is some

supervision

> but at times they are alone for several days and they get along fine. I

am

> so proud of them. The older one, who does most of the cooking, is

diabetic

> and they have to account for that. And the younger one is legally blind

and

> almost deaf. But they manage. Isn't it amazing?

> Jessie

>

>

>

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LOL!!! and would live on hot dogs and burgers, if I'd let them.

We do nuke a pizza now and then, and love Chef Boyardee ravioli out of a

can, but, mostly we cook from scratch. Healthier and cheaper. ,

especially, does not need to ingest a lot of food additives such as

preservatives and artificial food coloring.

granny

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" Beautiful that war and all its deeds of carnage must

in time be utterly lost. " -- Walt Whitman

http://www.bspyle.com/granny.html

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> granny,

> now it's time for you to sit back and realx!!! Next meal- hot dogs and

> burgers. What about scrambled eggs? And chicken cutlets? or even a

roasted

> chicken! The possibilities are endless.

> When are we coming for dinner???

>

>

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In a message dated 2/18/2001 8:04:48 AM Eastern Standard Time,

bspyle@... writes:

> LOL!!! and would live on hot dogs and burgers, if I'd let them.

> We do nuke a pizza now and then, and love Chef Boyardee ravioli out of a

> can, but, mostly we cook from scratch. Healthier and cheaper. ,

> especially, does not need to ingest a lot of food additives such as

> preservatives and artificial food coloring.

>

> granny

>

Do they use a Forman grill? We use ours alot to make steaks, chicken and

grilled cheese sandwiches. The one I have has a timer you set and it turns

off when the timer goes off.

My dad just made the switch to butter (I did a few years ago) and vowed never

to return to margarine. One of my goals this year is to do more cooking from

scratch...it is healthier.

I just got back from WV where I feasted on " real " Italian food!

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In a message dated 2/17/2001 2:26:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,

JB66111@... writes:

>

> would love to learn to cook but it is difficult with the

> wheelchair. I could have the kitchen redone to suit him but that would

> make

> it very difficult for me and I would still do most of it. He does use the

> microwave. But he collects cookbooks and recipes and such. And loves to

> eat.

Jessie...I'm curious to know if the Department of Rehabilitation offers any

assistance to to help him meet his needs? If you would ever adapt

the kitchen for , wouldn't they provide the financial assistance to do

so under some independent living monies? Just curious.....

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In a message dated 2/18/01 5:24:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,

c1ndysue1@... writes:

> ? If you would ever adapt

> the kitchen for , wouldn't they provide the financial assistance to

> do

> so under some independent living monies? Just curious.....

>

> I just saw a very cool kitchen built for a wheechair user in a magazine at

> work. I will have to see if I can find it for the name of the magazine. I

> bet it would be very expensive to retrofit or redo a kitchen to accommodate

> someone. What is the limit on environmental rehab funds .... $5,000.00 a

> year?

> Cheryl in VA

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In a message dated 2/18/01 5:15:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,

c1ndysue1@... writes:

> <<My dad just made the switch to butter (I did a few years ago) and vowed

> never

> to return to margarine. >>

I hope he had his cholesterol checked first!! They're both fats but butter

is also cholesterol!

I cook almost everything from scratch. A new office mate that is a veggie

- tarry- ian has been telling me all about beef products in food mixes. She

keeps trying to find something I use so she can tell me what's in it! ;-)

Anyway, she told me Betty Crocker cake mixes have beef products, I gotta go

read labels on that one. So far the only thing she has caught me on is

Jello! She keeps trying to feed me her tofu and bean curd stuff,

bleeeeeeechhhh!! ;-)

Cheryl in VA

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In a message dated 2/18/2001 9:52:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, Linman42

writes:

> ,

> Sorry but I dont think WV has real Italian food! If you want real Italian

> food you either have to go to Italy or NY!!!!

>

Never been to sburg, WV, huh? Home of the famous Italian Festival labor

day weekend. Ever seen Oliverio's peppers? Check out where they are made,

hehe!

I also stopped at the Italian bakery and picked up a dozen loaves of Italian

bread and 4 dozen pepperoni rolls. They aren't all for us...I had orders

from friends before I left :) There is nothing that compares to a hot

pepperoni roll straight from the oven...yummy! Do you even have those in

NY?????

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In a message dated 2/19/2001 6:52:15 AM Eastern Standard Time,

bspyle@... writes:

> This is the first I've heard about a Forman grill. I lead such a sheltered

> life. Tell me more.

>

>

I guess you do!! Catch a Sunday flyer, they are usually in Walmart, KMart

and better department store ads. We have one called Health Zone..it was

cheaper. It basically cooks foods on both sides at the same time. Grease

drains into a holder you can dispose of when you clean it up. Clean up is

easy, too...one is suppose to be able to use a paper towel and wipe it clean.

I always wash mine though. I think this would be easy for and

to use, especially with the timer. It's also great for those who are health

conscious.

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In a message dated 2/19/01 7:00:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,

bspyle@... writes:

> You need to do some studying on the difference between good cholesterol and

> bad cholesterol, Cheryl. Good cholesterol is essential to cell reproduction.

> Butter has good cholesterol. Margarine has bad cholesterol. Last time I had

> my cholesterol checked (about eight months ago), my good cholesterol was

> high and my bad cholesterol was low.

>

> Sorry to be the one to burst your bubble Granny but you are VERY wrong.

> Margarine, made from vegetable oils, has NO cholesterol. While both butter

> and margarine are fats, butter is the more evil, as it contains much more

> saturated fat, the WORST kind for us to consume. So if you need to watch

> your cholesterol consumption, butter is a very bad choice to add to your

> diet.

>

> Our cholesterol comes from our food and from our liver, which produces it.

> Genetics are at play for us here. Some people have bodies that produce an

> abundance of good cholesterol, some people have bodies that don't produce

> enough.

I am glad you get your tested, next time you go, ask your doc for

literature on what foods to avoid if you want to lower your cholesterol.

Butter is on the list!

Cheryl in VA

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Are you kidding or what??? We are the kings and queens of any kind of rolls-

pepperoni, sausage, spinach whatever!!!! Whenever I go anywhere else in the

country like to Fla I also have to bring loaves of Italian bread and fresh

pasta like ravioli and manicotti.

And I can have Italian bread any time I want by just walking down the block!

Pastries too like cannolis --Anytime!!! LOL

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Granny,

I beg to differ- when I was in Florida there were real Italians and believe

me one could not get real Italian food. I think being Italian and living in

NY, one definately gets a little spoiled!

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In a message dated 2/19/01 9:46:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, linman42@...

writes:

> I think being Italian and living in

> NY, one definately gets a little spoiled!

>

That may be but I have real Italian relatives in NJ and honey, the food is

the BEST!

Cheryl in VA

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In a message dated 2/19/2001 9:46:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,

linman42@... writes:

> Granny,

> I beg to differ- when I was in Florida there were real Italians and believe

> me one could not get real Italian food. I think being Italian and living

> in

> NY, one definately gets a little spoiled!

>

>

Come to WV and see for yourself! My sisters work for the FBI in WV and many

employees were transfered there from DC. They complain that the only

resturants (homestyle) are Italian..lol!

I wish we had real Italian bread or foods here in Northern VA but we don't.

I was told there is one good Italian resturant in the DC area..opened up by a

WV Italian!

So do you have peppers in sauce or do you make peppers in oil?

, who believes sauce is sauce and gravy is something you put over mashed

potatoes ;)

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In a message dated 2/19/2001 8:04:34 AM Central Standard Time,

c1ndysue1@... writes:

<< Clean up is

easy, too...one is suppose to be able to use a paper towel and wipe it

clean.

I always wash mine though. I think this would be easy for and

to use, especially with the timer. It's also great for those who are health

conscious.

>>

I have a cheaper brand, works great. One cleanup tip is to stick wet

papertowels inside (it's still hot but not turned on!!) while you're eating

dinner, helps losen the dried on stuff so when you're doing the dishes and

wiping stuff up it just comes right off, works great. :-)

Joy

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In a message dated 2/19/01 10:11:54 AM Central Standard Time,

JTesmer799@... writes:

> I have a cheaper brand, works great. One cleanup tip is to stick wet

> papertowels inside (it's still hot but not turned on!!) while you're

eating

> dinner, helps losen the dried on stuff so when you're doing the dishes and

> wiping stuff up it just comes right off, works great. :-)

>

>

> Joy

Ooooh wow Joy thanks for the tip lol I rarely use mine (it's a cheaper model)

because of the messy clean ups.........BUT hubby uses it to cook and I'm

still stuck with the mess lol

Kathy mom to Sara 9

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---- Original Message -----

From: <C1ndysue1@...>

<bspyle@...>; < >

Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 4:03 PM

Subject: Re: Learning to cook

> Do they use a Forman grill? We use ours alot to make steaks, chicken and

> grilled cheese sandwiches. The one I have has a timer you set and it

turns

> off when the timer goes off.

>

> My dad just made the switch to butter (I did a few years ago) and vowed

never

> to return to margarine. One of my goals this year is to do more cooking

from

> scratch...it is healthier.

>

> I just got back from WV where I feasted on " real " Italian food!

>

>

This is the first I've heard about a Forman grill. I lead such a sheltered

life. Tell me more.

I quit buying butter years and years ago. As soon as I learned how much

better for you it is than margarine. Recently stopped buying vegetable

shortening and switched to lard. Have learned you need less lard than

vegetable shortening. Biscuits and pie crusts are so much lighter with lard

than veggie shortening. When the recipe calls for 3 tablespoons shortening,

I find I can get by with 2 tablespoons lard. We use mostly olive oil for

salads and frying. Also, I've started adding a teaspoon of whole wheat

and/or rye flour whenever white flour is called for. One teaspoon to every

cup white flour. We don't even use baking powder! When the recipe calls for

a teaspoon of baking powder, we substitute 1 teaspoon baking soda and 1

teaspoon cream of tartar. Need less salt that way and the dish has less of a

bitter taste.

We do Italian a lot! I've been learning to make pasta from scratch and we

love it! It is so easy!

Hugs,

granny

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" Beautiful that war and all its deeds of carnage must

in time be utterly lost. " -- Walt Whitman

http://www.bspyle.com/granny.html

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You need to do some studying on the difference between good cholesterol and

bad cholesterol, Cheryl. Good cholesterol is essential to cell reproduction.

Butter has good cholesterol. Margarine has bad cholesterol. Last time I had

my cholesterol checked (about eight months ago), my good cholesterol was

high and my bad cholesterol was low.

granny

---

" Beautiful that war and all its deeds of carnage must

in time be utterly lost. " -- Walt Whitman

http://www.bspyle.com/granny.html

Re: Learning to cook

> In a message dated 2/18/01 5:15:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> c1ndysue1@... writes:

>

>

> > <<My dad just made the switch to butter (I did a few years ago) and

vowed

> > never

> > to return to margarine. >>

>

> I hope he had his cholesterol checked first!! They're both fats but

butter

> is also cholesterol!

>

> I cook almost everything from scratch. A new office mate that is a

veggie

> - tarry- ian has been telling me all about beef products in food mixes.

She

> keeps trying to find something I use so she can tell me what's in it! ;-)

> Anyway, she told me Betty Crocker cake mixes have beef products, I gotta

go

> read labels on that one. So far the only thing she has caught me on is

> Jello! She keeps trying to feed me her tofu and bean curd stuff,

> bleeeeeeechhhh!! ;-)

> Cheryl in VA

>

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Horse feathers! One can get real Italian food wherever there are real

Italians. There's a whole colony of the darlings here on my Island and some

great Italian restaurants. Lest you doubt me, one of the members of one of

the Italian families is now serving time for Mafia activities!

granny

---

" Beautiful that war and all its deeds of carnage must

in time be utterly lost. " -- Walt Whitman

http://www.bspyle.com/granny.html

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> ,

> Sorry but I dont think WV has real Italian food! If you want real Italian

> food you either have to go to Italy or NY!!!!

>

>

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, I have just found that we have two different services here in Tennessee

that serve to help family to do adaptive things and help the disabeled, One is

the Family support and the other is the the Independentant living , Isn't it

funny how things stay so obsolete (sp) then when I started the Partners thingy

all the services I have found that I had no idea exsisted.

Carolyn

Re: Learning to cook

In a message dated 2/17/2001 2:26:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,

JB66111@... writes:

>

> would love to learn to cook but it is difficult with the

> wheelchair. I could have the kitchen redone to suit him but that would

> make

> it very difficult for me and I would still do most of it. He does use the

> microwave. But he collects cookbooks and recipes and such. And loves to

> eat.

Jessie...I'm curious to know if the Department of Rehabilitation offers any

assistance to to help him meet his needs? If you would ever adapt

the kitchen for , wouldn't they provide the financial assistance to do

so under some independent living monies? Just curious.....

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