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> Thanks for the response. I'm glad to hear from someone

also with RA. My RA is mild so I'm hoping it won't be a concern. I

didn't think to ask whether or not it would be reversible if it did,

in fact, worsen. Do you know?

>

> The doctor also mentioned side effects such as anemia and

depression - which I'm aware of. I explained that I just started a

new job and I had concerns about my ability to work. He said that I

should be able to work through the treatment and if that were not the

case, he would discontinue the treatment. I guess I'm just very

apprehensive about the whole treatment issue and need some time to get

used to the idea.

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> Jackie

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That is what i was told as well,once it commenced you were there for

the duration,i know of dropouts all of them told me how much they

regretted not seeing it out.Also you slip right down the rankings if

you pack it in,this decision can only come with Specialis recomendati

~on tough stuff but dat dis leiben,

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> I received the results of my blood work and ultrasound today.

>

> The doctor said I am lucky as I am genotype 2 which is very

treatable and

> only requires 6 months versus a year of treatment.

>

> I'm not sure how to read the test results. It says:

>

> HCV RNA Genotype, LIPA - 2b

>

> HCV RNA IU/ml - 45000 (listed as out of range as it should be <50)

>

> HCV RNA, QN, PCR - 4.65 (listed as out of range as it should be

<1.70)

>

> All the other results are within normal range with the exception

of AST at

> 135 (normal 3-35) and ALT at 152 (normal at 3-40).

>

> The only concern the doctor mentioned about treatment in my case

is that it

> can make my rheumatoid arthritis worse. He suggested I speak to my

> rheumatologist and make a decision whether to go ahead with

treatment.

>

> Can someone interpret the numbers listed above for me so I can

make sense of

> it? Is it true about the treatment being half the time for

genotype 2 with

> very good results?

>

> Thanks.

>

Very good i am very very pleased for you,told you you'd be O,K didn't

i good luck with the treatment.I am glad normal life here you come.

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Wow - that concerns me about the tx triggering the RA. I see my rheumatologist in 2 weeks and will discuss it with him.

As far as stopping tx if I have a problem working, it's possible that it was the doctor's way of telling me that I won't have a problem in his opinion. He was trying to emphasize that I will be able to work through tx. He mentioned "low dose" interferon - is there such a thing for genotype 2?

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wow, well there is NO WAY he can tell you that you will be able to work all through tx, everyone reacts differently, I worked fine until week 10 or 12, I cant remember now, but there was no way I could continue. Low dose INF is for maintenance.. thats not for the kind of treatment you need to get rid of the virus.. Please ask him again about this before you start tx and ask HIM WHAT HE WILL DO FOR YOU TO TREAT THE SIDE EFFECTS... jaxDorothy <dorv@...> wrote: Wow - that concerns me about the tx triggering the RA. I see my rheumatologist in 2 weeks and will discuss it with him. As far as stopping tx if I have a problem working, it's possible that it was the doctor's way of telling me that I won't have a problem in his opinion. He was trying to emphasize that I will be able to work through tx. He mentioned "low dose" interferon - is there such a thing for genotype 2? . Jackie

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Before I agree to any treatment, I intend to discuss this with my rheumatologist & neurologist at some length. Then I will see the hepatologist again with a list of questions and concerns. That's why I like getting the input from everyone on this list who's "been there & done that." If I can't work through treatment, there's a good chance that I will decide to postpone tx until perhaps next year.

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There is no real low dose treatment anymore unless it's just for maintenance . And I know lots of people who worked through treatment with no problem . The only ones I know of who have a big problem during treatment is those who have had the disease for so long that they have allot of damage .

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Wow - that concerns me about the tx triggering the RA. I see my rheumatologist in 2 weeks and will discuss it with him.

As far as stopping tx if I have a problem working, it's possible that it was the doctor's way of telling me that I won't have a problem in his opinion. He was trying to emphasize that I will be able to work through tx. He mentioned "low dose" interferon - is there such a thing for genotype 2?

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well Liz, that probably explains what happened to me then cuz I had it 23 years when I found out about it.. and I didnt have what I FELT was a hard time on tx,, it was manigible but I couldnt work on the ambulance. that was impossible with the anemia,, couldnt just jump up and run to a call and I had a hard time making critical decisions with the anemia too, I was so afraid that I MIGHT hurt someone... was awful and I was very relieved when I went on long term disability so I could concentrate on finishing my treatment.. love you sister!!!elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote: There is no real low dose treatment anymore unless it's just for maintenance . And I know lots of people who worked through treatment with no problem . The only ones I know of who have a big problem during treatment is those who have had the disease for so long that they have allot of damage .

RE: Test Results Wow - that concerns me about the tx triggering the RA. I see my rheumatologist in 2 weeks and will discuss it with him. As far as stopping tx if I have a problem working, it's possible that it was the doctor's way of telling me that I won't have a problem in his opinion. He was trying to emphasize that I will be able to work through tx. He mentioned "low dose" interferon - is there such a thing for genotype 2?

. Jackie

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Hi Dorothy Im glad we could offer 'some' insight to treatment. I think its a really good thing to discuss all of this with your docs. If you have little damage, you do have the luxury of waiting for a better time to treat or better treatment to come out. What would happen if you got to where you couldnt work? Is there someone else who could help you? jaxDorothy <dorv@...> wrote: Before I agree to any treatment, I intend to discuss this with my

rheumatologist & neurologist at some length. Then I will see the hepatologist again with a list of questions and concerns. That's why I like getting the input from everyone on this list who's "been there & done that." If I can't work through treatment, there's a good chance that I will decide to postpone tx until perhaps next year. Jackie

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LOL just the brain fog from the riba is enough to keep ya feelin loopy . But being anemic on top of that is a bad combo , glad to see you didnt keep working . luv ya too sweety

RE: Test Results

Wow - that concerns me about the tx triggering the RA. I see my rheumatologist in 2 weeks and will discuss it with him.

As far as stopping tx if I have a problem working, it's possible that it was the doctor's way of telling me that I won't have a problem in his opinion. He was trying to emphasize that I will be able to work through tx. He mentioned "low dose" interferon - is there such a thing for genotype 2?

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My ideal plan is to be secure in either this new job or another so that I would be in a position to collect disability. Before I was laid off from a large corporation, I paid for long term disability. That would have paid me 2/3 of my salary tax free. State disability which runs 26 weeks is only $170 a week & is taxable - certainly not enough to cover living expenses. My new job is with a very new company and part of my job is to look into benefit plans - so you can be sure that LTD will be included.

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Hi Dorothy

Im glad we could offer 'some' insight to treatment. I think its a really good thing to discuss all of this with your docs. If you have little damage, you do have the luxury of waiting for a better time to treat or better treatment to come out. What would happen if you got to where you couldnt work? Is there someone else who could help you?

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that sounds like a good idea,, I dont know what I would have done IF I hadnt had the disability,, I would have had to stop treatment.. Dorothy <dorv@...> wrote: My ideal plan is to be secure in either this new job or another so that I would be in a position to collect disability. Before I was laid off from a large corporation, I paid for long term disability. That would have paid me 2/3 of my salary tax free. State disability which runs 26 weeks is only $170 a week & is

taxable - certainly not enough to cover living expenses. My new job is with a very new company and part of my job is to look into benefit plans - so you can be sure that LTD will be included. -----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis C [mailto:Hepatitis C ]On Behalf Of Jackie on . Hi Dorothy Im glad we could offer 'some' insight to treatment. I think its a really good thing to discuss all of this with your docs. If you have little damage, you do have the luxury of waiting for a better time to treat or better treatment to come out. What would happen if you got

to where you couldnt work? Is there someone else who could help you? jax Jackie

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yep, both of my rbc and wbc were sitting at 1.0 and my hemoglobing was at 7.0 no wonder I couldnt pay attention,, lol.. love you tooelizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote: LOL just the brain fog from the riba is enough to keep ya feelin loopy . But being anemic on top of that is a bad combo , glad to see you didnt keep working . luv ya too sweety RE: Test Results Wow - that concerns me about the tx triggering the RA. I see my rheumatologist in 2 weeks and will discuss it with him. As far as stopping tx if I have a problem working, it's possible that it was the doctor's way of telling me that I won't have a problem in his opinion. He was trying to emphasize that I will be able to work through tx. He mentioned "low dose" interferon - is there such a thing

for genotype 2? . Jackie Jackie

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yep, both of my rbc and wbc were sitting at 1.0 and my hemoglobing was at 7.0 no wonder I couldnt pay attention,, lol.. love you tooelizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote: LOL just the brain fog from the riba is enough to keep ya feelin loopy . But being anemic on top of that is a bad combo , glad to see you didnt keep working . luv ya too sweety RE: Test Results Wow - that concerns me about the tx triggering the RA. I see my rheumatologist in 2 weeks and will discuss it with him. As far as stopping tx if I have a problem working, it's possible that it was the doctor's way of telling me that I won't have a problem in his opinion. He was trying to emphasize that I will be able to work through tx. He mentioned "low dose" interferon - is there such a thing

for genotype 2? . Jackie Jackie

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Hi Gretchen,

Why is it a mystery that your son,at 13, would still

be getting sick???

My mom was diagnosed with FMF 6 years ago. She was

sick for 2-3 days a week, from the time she was an

infant, all the way into her late 20's. And she still

has very mild, short episodes, about every 10 years or

so. Our son was tested for FMF,but came back neg. We

thought for sure that because his grandmother has FMF,

that is what he would be diagnosed with too. It seems

I read...that he could still have FMF even though he

tested neg. He does not have the sever stomache pain

that my mom had. She said it was so bad that it would

hurt just to drink water and would double over to walk

s symptons really fit much more than FMF.

Cheri in CA

--- Gretchen Danson <gretchendanson@...> wrote:

> Hi Everyone,

> Our ID called yesterday and 's test for

> TRAPS came back NEGATIVE! she is still waiting on

> the fmf. She thought his symptoms fit for traps but,

> not fmf. However, I have read on these post that

> some kids who don't really fit fmf, end up having

> it. We are still hopeful that the fmf will be

> negative as well and we can truly go with as

> his diagnosis. Why he still has it at 13 will still

> remain our mystery........the tagamet seems to be

> doing something now, is on day 26. He did

> say this morning going to school that he had a

> headache?????we will see. He kinda did have " the

> look " but I wasn't going to say anything to him.

> Take care,

> Gretchen and

>

>

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It's a mystery I guess if the FMF comes back negative, because I feel like if he

has he should have outgrown it by now. He sounds like he has FMF to me at

times with his joint pain and stomach but not all the time. Maybe that was the

wrong thing to say? I just get to worrying so much it brings me to tears like

today...... is over his fever today. I just hate these bad months and

winter is coming and it rains sooooo much here I am kinda a little worried about

that too, for me and . Getting the winter blues, that is. I should plan a

trip to sunny California for mid winter break? Anyways, thanks for listening.

Talk to you later, Gretchen

Cheri Payton <mycheribaby@...> wrote:

Hi Gretchen,

Why is it a mystery that your son,at 13, would still

be getting sick???

My mom was diagnosed with FMF 6 years ago. She was

sick for 2-3 days a week, from the time she was an

infant, all the way into her late 20's. And she still

has very mild, short episodes, about every 10 years or

so. Our son was tested for FMF,but came back neg. We

thought for sure that because his grandmother has FMF,

that is what he would be diagnosed with too. It seems

I read...that he could still have FMF even though he

tested neg. He does not have the sever stomache pain

that my mom had. She said it was so bad that it would

hurt just to drink water and would double over to walk

s symptons really fit much more than FMF.

Cheri in CA

--- Gretchen Danson <gretchendanson@...> wrote:

> Hi Everyone,

> Our ID called yesterday and 's test for

> TRAPS came back NEGATIVE! she is still waiting on

> the fmf. She thought his symptoms fit for traps but,

> not fmf. However, I have read on these post that

> some kids who don't really fit fmf, end up having

> it. We are still hopeful that the fmf will be

> negative as well and we can truly go with as

> his diagnosis. Why he still has it at 13 will still

> remain our mystery........the tagamet seems to be

> doing something now, is on day 26. He did

> say this morning going to school that he had a

> headache?????we will see. He kinda did have " the

> look " but I wasn't going to say anything to him.

> Take care,

> Gretchen and

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Get your email and more, right on the new .com

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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Hi Gretchen,

I understand. Please know that I am praying for you

and , this week.

I am not looking forward to this winter too. is

sick so much of the time during the winter months,

even in sunny Calif.

I hope has a good week and that you will feel

encouraged by others, going through the same .

Cheri, mom to 11

--- Gretchen Danson <gretchendanson@...> wrote:

> It's a mystery I guess if the FMF comes back

> negative, because I feel like if he has he

> should have outgrown it by now. He sounds like he

> has FMF to me at times with his joint pain and

> stomach but not all the time. Maybe that was the

> wrong thing to say? I just get to worrying so much

> it brings me to tears like today...... is

> over his fever today. I just hate these bad months

> and winter is coming and it rains sooooo much here I

> am kinda a little worried about that too, for me and

> . Getting the winter blues, that is. I should

> plan a trip to sunny California for mid winter

> break? Anyways, thanks for listening. Talk to you

> later, Gretchen

>

> Cheri Payton <mycheribaby@...> wrote:

> Hi Gretchen,

>

> Why is it a mystery that your son,at 13, would still

> be getting sick???

>

> My mom was diagnosed with FMF 6 years ago. She was

> sick for 2-3 days a week, from the time she was an

> infant, all the way into her late 20's. And she

> still

> has very mild, short episodes, about every 10 years

> or

> so. Our son was tested for FMF,but came back neg. We

> thought for sure that because his grandmother has

> FMF,

> that is what he would be diagnosed with too. It

> seems

> I read...that he could still have FMF even though he

> tested neg. He does not have the sever stomache pain

> that my mom had. She said it was so bad that it

> would

> hurt just to drink water and would double over to

> walk

>

> s symptons really fit much more than FMF.

> Cheri in CA

>

> --- Gretchen Danson <gretchendanson@...>

> wrote:

>

> > Hi Everyone,

> > Our ID called yesterday and 's test for

> > TRAPS came back NEGATIVE! she is still waiting on

> > the fmf. She thought his symptoms fit for traps

> but,

> > not fmf. However, I have read on these post that

> > some kids who don't really fit fmf, end up having

> > it. We are still hopeful that the fmf will be

> > negative as well and we can truly go with as

> > his diagnosis. Why he still has it at 13 will

> still

> > remain our mystery........the tagamet seems to be

> > doing something now, is on day 26. He did

> > say this morning going to school that he had a

> > headache?????we will see. He kinda did have " the

> > look " but I wasn't going to say anything to him.

> > Take care,

> > Gretchen and

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Get your email and more, right on the new

> .com

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

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Thank you Cheri. I am praying for you and too, actually all of our

families here. had a real bad winter also. I do feel the support it just

doesn't always stay with me month to month, if you know what I mean? I wish I

could meet and see live people who are going through this. I do have 5 sisters

and 1 brother but it's not the same. For them to even know is fevering I

have to call and tell them. Why would I want to do that every month? They are a

great family but they still can't understand what we go through and they still

wounder why is still sick, like we have to be missing something. I think

I'm tired and need some sleep.....back to work and School. We have 3 kids in 3

different Schools this year. yikes! I'm am so grateful I can stay home so I can

juggle all the different schedules. I will talk to you soon. Where should

email ? Thank you Cheri, Gretchen

Cheri Payton <mycheribaby@...> wrote: Hi Gretchen,

I understand. Please know that I am praying for you

and , this week.

I am not looking forward to this winter too. is

sick so much of the time during the winter months,

even in sunny Calif.

I hope has a good week and that you will feel

encouraged by others, going through the same .

Cheri, mom to 11

--- Gretchen Danson <gretchendanson@...> wrote:

> It's a mystery I guess if the FMF comes back

> negative, because I feel like if he has he

> should have outgrown it by now. He sounds like he

> has FMF to me at times with his joint pain and

> stomach but not all the time. Maybe that was the

> wrong thing to say? I just get to worrying so much

> it brings me to tears like today...... is

> over his fever today. I just hate these bad months

> and winter is coming and it rains sooooo much here I

> am kinda a little worried about that too, for me and

> . Getting the winter blues, that is. I should

> plan a trip to sunny California for mid winter

> break? Anyways, thanks for listening. Talk to you

> later, Gretchen

>

> Cheri Payton <mycheribaby@...> wrote:

> Hi Gretchen,

>

> Why is it a mystery that your son,at 13, would still

> be getting sick???

>

> My mom was diagnosed with FMF 6 years ago. She was

> sick for 2-3 days a week, from the time she was an

> infant, all the way into her late 20's. And she

> still

> has very mild, short episodes, about every 10 years

> or

> so. Our son was tested for FMF,but came back neg. We

> thought for sure that because his grandmother has

> FMF,

> that is what he would be diagnosed with too. It

> seems

> I read...that he could still have FMF even though he

> tested neg. He does not have the sever stomache pain

> that my mom had. She said it was so bad that it

> would

> hurt just to drink water and would double over to

> walk

>

> s symptons really fit much more than FMF.

> Cheri in CA

>

> --- Gretchen Danson <gretchendanson@...>

> wrote:

>

> > Hi Everyone,

> > Our ID called yesterday and 's test for

> > TRAPS came back NEGATIVE! she is still waiting on

> > the fmf. She thought his symptoms fit for traps

> but,

> > not fmf. However, I have read on these post that

> > some kids who don't really fit fmf, end up having

> > it. We are still hopeful that the fmf will be

> > negative as well and we can truly go with as

> > his diagnosis. Why he still has it at 13 will

> still

> > remain our mystery........the tagamet seems to be

> > doing something now, is on day 26. He did

> > say this morning going to school that he had a

> > headache?????we will see. He kinda did have " the

> > look " but I wasn't going to say anything to him.

> > Take care,

> > Gretchen and

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Get your email and more, right on the new

> .com

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

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Hang in, le, you were at least lucky enough to find your way to the right Group.. I am a "1", also, there are many of us.. My prayers for you now are a good doctor.. Blessings, Sheena kdaniellem <kdaniellem@...> wrote: just called over to the primary care docs officegenotype 1viral load 2,120,000Any suggestiond for questions to ask the Inf.

Disease doc?Crud, I was hoping for an "easier" genotype.le

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did he give you a subtype A or B ? A is easier to tx but not much,, or so I have heard, but then I have had my doc say that geno 1 is geno 1 and it doesnt matter about subtype,, ask for a biopsy next to see IF You have damage and then you can decide about tx or not.kdaniellem <kdaniellem@...> wrote: just called over to the primary care docs officegenotype 1viral load 2,120,000Any suggestiond for questions to ask the Inf. Disease doc?Crud, I was hoping for an

"easier" genotype.leJackie

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le,

I know what you mean. I was hoping for an " easier " geno too, and got

1b, with 4.3 mil viral load. C'est la vie.

Next step, at least for me, was to get a biopsy and get the damages

assessed. It turned out to be not so bad...mild inflammation, mild

fibrosis. Hope to start tx soon, now that I will have some decent

insurance!

Are you going to have a liver biopsy? It's not bad...at least mine

wasn't. Thsi group will help tremendously...check out the archives,

lots of good stuff from past discussions in there!

Blessings,

>

> just called over to the primary care docs office

>

> genotype 1

> viral load 2,120,000

>

> Any suggestiond for questions to ask the Inf. Disease doc?

>

> Crud, I was hoping for an " easier " genotype.

>

> le

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Thanks for the response,

Saw the inf. disease doc today and I feel pretty comfortable with

her. She treats lots of Hep C patients and was very open and non-

judgemental.

She is working on getting me scheduled for the liver biopsy, I have

to get my ultrasound scheduled and I have additional pre-tx bloodwork

to do tomorrow. I have a heavy duty clinical rotation starting next

week, so she sees no harm in delaying treatment 3 months until I have

a lighter load, followed by a summer break. Tx protocol is Peg-

Interferon with the Ribiviron.

My mother wants to come stay with me for the first week or so of Tx.

She's been great. My brother is having to consider if he will ever

let me kiss my nephew again, but my guess is he's just enjoying the

attempt to humiliate me a bit. I just told him that most of my high

risk behavior was in my early teens and if he wants to beat up on my

inner child, he's welcome to.... It was the eighties and I had no

boundaries. I've been sober by the grace of the BIG GUY for a long

time now... I don't need anyone's permission to be okay with who I

am TODAY.

So I have my release to return to clinicals, I have a plan and we'll

let the universe take care of the rest.

The suggestion is that I get used to drinking a gallon of water a day

(y'all prepped me for that) and that I start Noni juice (they say

that they have labs that suggest it can be helpful) and I'll start

back on gluc/chond and continue my milk thistle.

Cheers folk!

le

> >

> > just called over to the primary care docs office

> >

> > genotype 1

> > viral load 2,120,000

> >

> > Any suggestiond for questions to ask the Inf. Disease doc?

> >

> > Crud, I was hoping for an " easier " genotype.

> >

> > le

> >

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I am also geno 1a. I cleared the virus very early on, I think it was like 8 wks when I had the blood drawn. It is doable. I also get a lot of prayers from my church. I take the medicine religiously like they told me. If I needed to change my shot day I moved it up one day at a time over several weeks. e mail me if you need support Melkdaniellem <kdaniellem@...> wrote: just called over to the primary care docs officegenotype 1viral load

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Good News De. Glad To Hear It. Love And Hugs d

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<dmotley@...> wrote:

> I finally got my biopsy results. I have low grade

something ( 1 on a scale

> of 1 to 5), but negative for dysplasia, which I

believe means no

> pre-cancerous cells. And I don't have to re-test in

3 months as originally

> planned, I get to wait 6, so this is good news. I

left the report at the

> office, so when I bring it home, I'll see if any of

you ladies know what on

> e

> of the things they said is.

>

>

>

> The most important thing is that the conversation

with the nurse didn't tel

> l

> me the most important thing - it wasn't until I read

the report I insisted

> she fax that I read the negative for dysplasia part.

ALWAYS GET COPIES OF

> YOUR REPORTS!!!!!

>

>

>

> Do not ask God to guide your footsteps if you are

not willing to move your

> feet!

>

> De

>

>

>

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Mmmmmmmmmm! Interesting. Hugs, VickieG Motley <dmotley@...> wrote: I finally got my biopsy results. I have low grade something ( 1 on a scale of 1 to 5), but negative for dysplasia, which I believe means no pre-cancerous cells. And I don’t have to re-test in 3 months as originally planned, I get to wait 6, so this is good

news. I left the report at the office, so when I bring it home, I’ll see if any of you ladies know what one of the things they said is. The most important thing is that the conversation with the nurse didn’t tell me the most important thing – it wasn’t until I read the report I insisted she fax that I read the negative for dysplasia part. ALWAYS GET COPIES OF YOUR REPORTS!!!!! Do not ask God to guide your footsteps if you are not willing to move your feet! De

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hey de i so happy that you are in a good mood with the great news best of luck katVickie Gray <onelildeltagirl@...> wrote: Mmmmmmmmmm! Interesting. Hugs, VickieG Motley <dmotleybellsouth (DOT) net> wrote: I finally got my biopsy results. I have low grade something ( 1 on a scale of 1 to 5), but negative for dysplasia, which I believe means no pre-cancerous cells. And I don’t have to re-test in 3 months as originally planned, I get to wait 6, so this is good news. I left the report at the office, so

when I bring it home, I’ll see if any of you ladies know what one of the things they said is. The most important thing is that the conversation with the nurse didn’t tell me the most important thing – it wasn’t until I read the report I insisted she fax that I read the negative for dysplasia part. ALWAYS GET COPIES OF YOUR REPORTS!!!!! Do not ask God to guide your footsteps if you are not willing to move your feet! De Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos.

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