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Hi ,

Congratulations on #5..... and welcome to this list! You will learn so

much here, and just knowing that there is a group of folks that are

always there for you, and have actually walked the same path is very

comforting. You sound like you have a great attitude, and once your get

your new little baby in your arms, fear will quickly begin to melt

away. Knowing about the heart issues before delivery can only be a

benefit to your baby, so you are fortunate that everyone will be ready.

With all the information out there (and it's wonderful to get educated),

always remember your baby is a baby first, not just a

diagnosis.......... it's much easier for families to know that once

they are holding that precious bundle in their arms, but sometimes when

you are involved with medical professionals, that important fact gets

overlooked :-)

I'm , mom to 3 girls ages 7, almost 9, and 11. My daughter

(who will be 9 in 11 days, as I am reminded every morning as

she rushed to the calendar to check how many days 'til January 16th)

has Down Syndrome. We did not know in advance, so got to deal with the

diagnosis while in a shared hospital room.......not fun. Our

experiences with her since then have been great. is now in

3rd grade at our neighborhood elementary school along with her sisters.

She is fully included in the regular classroom, with short daily visits

to the resource room for extra help. She loves to read, does math

(though she does not love that as much as reading), prints very well and

is starting to learn cursive, and pretty much participates in typical

3rd grade. She gets extra help and support to be succesful, but our

school has been great in meeting her individual needs, and she is a

happy, well-liked little girl. She does gynmastics, is in Brownies, and

goes to Sunday school. She's kind and sensitive, and is the first kid

to notice when someone is feeling sad. She gives the BEST hugs, and

still wants to climb into our laps and snuggle. Like all kids, she is

not always perfect :-) and she can be sassy and stubborn. She's an

opinionated rule-follower, and drives her free-spirit sister nuts by

frequently telling her what she should be doing :-) She thrives on

routines, and as long as no one sits in " her " chair at the table, life's

pretty easy :-) It took her a little longer to do most everything, but

it is so much more rewarding to watch her learn something..... she works

hard, and when she gets a new skill, it's pure joy on her face.

was a pretty healthy baby, and we went home from the hospital

in 2 days. When we got home, I realized that she had a bit of trouble

breastfeeding (she sucked well, but couldn't coordinate swallowing so

she dribbled most of the milk on me, and hence didn't gain weight

well.) I didn't have a resource for someone who could help with this

and was kinda overwhelmed with the diagnosis, new baby, toddler home,

snow........ so I just pumped and bottle fed her, and this worked well

for us. Other babies I know have issues with muscle tone, mouth shape,

etc. Many women have easily and successfully breastfed their babies

with DS, but since you have some time now, you might want to look for a

lactation specialist who knows DS, and just have that number handy, just

in case. Or, find out if the hospital you will deliver at has someone

with experience, if you want to breastfeed.

Your area will no doubt have a Down Syndrome Association or some type of

DS organization, and they will most likely be a valuable resource for

many things..... find them and give them a call. The other thing you

will be wanted to start as soon as possible is Early Intervention

Services. Usually babies with DS are referred at birth and someone from

your local agency will contact you, but if you want to do some research

in advance (and this is certainly not necessary, but you sound like you

like information), you can ask the DSA, OB or your pediatrician about

Early Intervention in your area.

For us, dealing with friends and family was probably the most difficult

thing early on. Many people didn't know what to say, and most who did,

said well-meaning but not-so-great things. But, like all awkward

conversations in life, these quickly dwindled away as our friends and

family realized how much joy brought to our family, how much

more a typical baby and toddler she was than different, and as she got

older, what a neat kid she really is.

Best of luck, and welcome.

, mom to (11), (8, DS), and Sammy (7)

Sullivan wrote:

> Hi all.

>

> Found your group on a DS support group list. I've also contacted

> DSNetwork 21. I'm not exactly computer savvy, so I apologize if I've

> already posted here, but I'll introduce myself anyway.

>

> My name is , and I'm pregnant with my third child. My husband

> and I each have two kids from previous marriages, so this is number

> 5....the " ours " baby. We found out a couple of months ago that the

> baby has Down Syndrome. I've been literally bombarding myself with

> information since the day we found out there MIGHT be a " problem " with

> the baby, and the best resources I've found are the accounts and

> stories of other parents.

>

> I know that I'll be delivering during the first week of March (via

> c-section). I do know what I'm having, but my husband does not, so I

> can't reveal that little tidbit of information as of yet. The baby has

> two small holes (one is the av canal defect) that will require

> surgery, but not immediately. I'll be delivering in New Brunswick

> (here in NJ), and the baby will have the surgery performed at

> Children's Hospital of Philadelphia. Beyond that, everything else is

> wait-and-see.

>

> We initially found out there was something amiss when I had a targeted

> ultrasound during my fourth month. I realized the technicians were

> taking a LOT of pictures, but figured things had changed since I had

> my son (7 years ago) and that they were either being very thorough, or

> they weren't very good at it! lol Anyway, the doctor told us that day

> that she had a VERY strong feeling that the baby had a genetic

> abnormality....most likely DS. They saw an absence of the fetal nasal

> bone (apprently a very strong indicator), a possible hear defect, and

> a smaller 5th digit on the hand. (All of which I explained away over

> the next few days and convinced myself that the doctor didn't know

> what SHE was doing, either!) It took a few minutes for me to believe

> that the conversation was happening, and then I lost it.....for about

> 3 minutes......then I was fine, then I wasn't, then I was fine

> again......etc. I'm sure you've all been there!!!! Anyway, we decided

> to have an immediate

> amnio, and we now know for sure.

>

> So, in a nutshell, we're doing better and feeling more optimistic,

> though still plagued by occasional bouts of fear in the middle of the

> night. If you ever see a posting from me at 3 am....that's why! I look

> forward to learning from you all, and hopefully to also be able to

> share my experiences as an expectant mom with anyone else out there in

> the same boat.

>

> Thanks for your time.

> Hurley

>

>

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Firstly congratulations on your pregnancy -

One thing to remember this child is still your baby and will be the same as

your others albeit a bit slower at achieving milestones but will do so. I

would also advise to see past the DS, it is a small part of your child's

life - one of my favourite sayings in regards to my son is - he is 95%

male 4% Lymer male 1% DS - the majority of traits are still family genetics

The traits of chromosone 21 often compared here are things like -

stubboness, love of tomato sauce (ketchup), and guess what I have forgotten

the others hopefully someone else will enlighten.

As with all children, children with DS are individual and will achieve along

different lines. I do not believe the old saying that children with DS are

more loving cuddly children, they are/were because 'we' made them that way.

The one thing that was told to me by an elderly lady when Trent was a baby

that I do strongly believe - 'there is someone watching over them'.

Best wishes and if you are posting at 3.00 a.m. In the morning you just

might come across me - not sure of the time differences but as I am in

Australia I am possibly up and doing my thing.

Jan, mother of Trent 22yo w/DS from the LandDownUnder

-- New to site

Hi all.

Found your group on a DS support group list. I've also contacted

DSNetwork 21. I'm not exactly computer savvy, so I apologize if I've

already posted here, but I'll introduce myself anyway.

My name is , and I'm pregnant with my third child. My husband and I

each have two kids from previous marriages, so this is number 5....the " ours

baby. We found out a couple of months ago that the baby has Down Syndrome

I've been literally bombarding myself with information since the day we

found out there MIGHT be a " problem " with the baby, and the best resources I

ve found are the accounts and stories of other parents.

I know that I'll be delivering during the first week of March (via

c-section). I do know what I'm having, but my husband does not, so I can't

reveal that little tidbit of information as of yet. The baby has two small

holes (one is the av canal defect) that will require surgery, but not

immediately. I'll be delivering in New Brunswick (here in NJ), and the baby

will have the surgery performed at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia.

Beyond that, everything else is wait-and-see.

We initially found out there was something amiss when I had a targeted

ultrasound during my fourth month. I realized the technicians were taking a

LOT of pictures, but figured things had changed since I had my son (7 years

ago) and that they were either being very thorough, or they weren't very

good at it! lol Anyway, the doctor told us that day that she had a VERY

strong feeling that the baby had a genetic abnormality....most likely DS.

They saw an absence of the fetal nasal bone (apprently a very strong

indicator), a possible hear defect, and a smaller 5th digit on the hand.

(All of which I explained away over the next few days and convinced myself

that the doctor didn't know what SHE was doing, either!) It took a few

minutes for me to believe that the conversation was happening, and then I

lost it.....for about 3 minutes......then I was fine, then I wasn't, then I

was fine again......etc. I'm sure you've all been there!!!! Anyway, we

decided to have an immediate

amnio, and we now know for sure.

So, in a nutshell, we're doing better and feeling more optimistic, though

still plagued by occasional bouts of fear in the middle of the night. If

you ever see a posting from me at 3 am....that's why! I look forward to

learning from you all, and hopefully to also be able to share my experiences

as an expectant mom with anyone else out there in the same boat.

Thanks for your time.

Hurley

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Hi ! Congratulations !!! I can surely relate to the mood swings you

have! When I was pregnant with my son , all test came back fine. I wasnt

considered in the high risk group to warrent an anmio but everything else

looked

fine . So you can understand the shock when our son was born , I went

through quite a while thinking the dr's were nut lol comparing pics to my

other

childrens ect... We were very lucky that there were no medical problems

and that he is a happy , VERY STUBBERN, KETCHUP LOVING ( lol Jan !! ) 8 yr

old who just happens to have an extra chomosome and I would not change him for

anything!!!

I have 4 children ( 2 b4 him and 1 after ) and they are very similar and

have there own uniqueness at the same time, We do not treat any of them any

different at all except that My 8 yr still likes to run and needs to be

watched

very closly for his safety

All you need to do is love your child and tend to his./her medical issues

now and the rest will fall into place.

Congratulations again and please send pics when the little Angel is born!!

in massachusetts

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Hi and welcome! The people on this site are amazing, wonderful, loving,

unique individuals who all have one thing in common... we LOVE our kids!!

Welcome to the group. You won't believe how different things will seem in a

year

or two... you will wonder where these feelings you have now ever even came

from.

My Hannah is such a light. " I love you, to mummy. " is the first thing she

says in the morning, before I can even say I love her! =)

I can't wait to see pictures!

CONNIE

mom to Hannah 7 (DS) Sergey, 18, Tatyanna 18, 16, Midori 14 and

Theresa 4

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Hi ,

My little one is 6.5 but I am very familiar with Children's Hospital of

Philadelphia. my daughter spent 25 days there starting when she is 7 weeks

old.. They have a very good support system and for the most part you can

stay right next to your child's bed or in some of the parent lounges where

they have beds or convertible chairs. they also have a library with internet

access and a laundry area, all of which helps during those long stays.

When my daughter was born, she had a small ventral defect and an open pda..

The docs told me that the ventral defect may require surgery in a couple of

years but that the pda should close on its own. my little girl being the

contrarian that she is, still had an open pda at 7 weeks and the ventral

defect healed on its own.. She also had a problem with the intestines.. But

all that has been repaired with no additional problems since...

She is a joy to be around.. She is a energetic little girl who tries to do

everything her much older brother does and has surprised us more then once

by doing things way before anyone expected..

When your little one arrives, just enjoy the time. for the most part a baby

with Down syndrome is just like any other little out there. just needs lots

of love and holding. they will respond..

Take care...if you need a visitor while you are at chop let me know. I am

nearby

ann

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of Sullivan

Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 11:11 AM

Subject: New to site

Hi all.

Found your group on a DS support group list. I've also contacted DSNetwork

21. I'm not exactly computer savvy, so I apologize if I've already posted

here, but I'll introduce myself anyway.

My name is , and I'm pregnant with my third child. My husband and I

each have two kids from previous marriages, so this is number 5....the

" ours " baby. We found out a couple of months ago that the baby has Down

Syndrome. I've been literally bombarding myself with information since the

day we found out there MIGHT be a " problem " with the baby, and the best

resources I've found are the accounts and stories of other parents.

I know that I'll be delivering during the first week of March (via

c-section). I do know what I'm having, but my husband does not, so I can't

reveal that little tidbit of information as of yet. The baby has two small

holes (one is the av canal defect) that will require surgery, but not

immediately. I'll be delivering in New Brunswick (here in NJ), and the baby

will have the surgery performed at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia.

Beyond that, everything else is wait-and-see.

We initially found out there was something amiss when I had a targeted

ultrasound during my fourth month. I realized the technicians were taking a

LOT of pictures, but figured things had changed since I had my son (7 years

ago) and that they were either being very thorough, or they weren't very

good at it! lol Anyway, the doctor told us that day that she had a VERY

strong feeling that the baby had a genetic abnormality....most likely DS.

They saw an absence of the fetal nasal bone (apprently a very strong

indicator), a possible hear defect, and a smaller 5th digit on the hand.

(All of which I explained away over the next few days and convinced myself

that the doctor didn't know what SHE was doing, either!) It took a few

minutes for me to believe that the conversation was happening, and then I

lost it.....for about 3 minutes......then I was fine, then I wasn't, then I

was fine again......etc. I'm sure you've all been there!!!! Anyway, we

decided to have an immediate

amnio, and we now know for sure.

So, in a nutshell, we're doing better and feeling more optimistic, though

still plagued by occasional bouts of fear in the middle of the night. If you

ever see a posting from me at 3 am....that's why! I look forward to learning

from you all, and hopefully to also be able to share my experiences as an

expectant mom with anyone else out there in the same boat.

Thanks for your time.

Hurley

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Hi and welcome! Sorry I am a bit late in responding to your email.

You are so far ahead in the game and will be pretty well prepared when your

little one arrives. You will see when your baby arrives at how much he/she

looks like their sibs, dad and you. And with four older sibs, this baby

will be sooo spoiled! We have many new members with babies - they just

haven't posted yet :)

Life sure has it's moments. This morning I was soaking in the tub (actually

lying down in the water) and the next thing I know, I have a 16 pound furry

thing on top of my belly. My son thought my oldest daughter's pug would

like a bath, too (I'm babysitting two pugs as my daughter just had a baby).

My son is now banned from my bathroom..lol! Last night was home

alone with his daddy while I was driving kid #3 back to school.

kept signing what Tim thought was peanut butter and jelly and getting

frustrated when Tim asked him " PB & J? " . Finally he brought him the phone and

signed it again. Tim got it that time - he wanted pizza. With pb & j,

uses his pinky finger and with pizza, it's his index finger writing

on his palm.\

New to site

> Hi all.

>

> Found your group on a DS support group list. I've also contacted

> DSNetwork 21. I'm not exactly computer savvy, so I apologize if I've

> already posted here, but I'll introduce myself anyway.

>

> My name is , and I'm pregnant with my third child. My husband and

> I each have two kids from previous marriages, so this is number 5....the

> " ours " baby. We found out a couple of months ago that the baby has Down

> Syndrome. I've been literally bombarding myself with information since

> the day we found out there MIGHT be a " problem " with the baby, and the

> best resources I've found are the accounts and stories of other parents.

>

> I know that I'll be delivering during the first week of March (via

> c-section). I do know what I'm having, but my husband does not, so I can't

> reveal that little tidbit of information as of yet. The baby has two

> small holes (one is the av canal defect) that will require surgery, but

> not immediately. I'll be delivering in New Brunswick (here in NJ), and

> the baby will have the surgery performed at Children's Hospital of

> Philadelphia. Beyond that, everything else is wait-and-see.

>

> We initially found out there was something amiss when I had a targeted

> ultrasound during my fourth month. I realized the technicians were taking

> a LOT of pictures, but figured things had changed since I had my son (7

> years ago) and that they were either being very thorough, or they weren't

> very good at it! lol Anyway, the doctor told us that day that she had a

> VERY strong feeling that the baby had a genetic abnormality....most likely

> DS. They saw an absence of the fetal nasal bone (apprently a very strong

> indicator), a possible hear defect, and a smaller 5th digit on the hand.

> (All of which I explained away over the next few days and convinced myself

> that the doctor didn't know what SHE was doing, either!) It took a few

> minutes for me to believe that the conversation was happening, and then I

> lost it.....for about 3 minutes......then I was fine, then I wasn't, then

> I was fine again......etc. I'm sure you've all been there!!!! Anyway, we

> decided to have an immediate

> amnio, and we now know for sure.

>

> So, in a nutshell, we're doing better and feeling more optimistic, though

> still plagued by occasional bouts of fear in the middle of the night. If

> you ever see a posting from me at 3 am....that's why! I look forward to

> learning from you all, and hopefully to also be able to share my

> experiences as an expectant mom with anyone else out there in the same

> boat.

>

> Thanks for your time.

> Hurley

>

>

>

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Life sure has it's moments. This morning I was soaking in the tub (actually

lying down in the water) and the next thing I know, I have a 16 pound furry

thing on top of my belly. My son thought my oldest daughter's pug would

like a bath, too (I'm babysitting two pugs as my daughter just had a baby).

..

LOL - wouldn't your life be sooo boring without !

As would mine without Trent and guessing everyone else feels the same.

Keep smiling

Jan, mother of Trent 22yo w/DS from the LandDownUnder

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Hi and welcome. My son, Nic (age 91/2) was born with a complete AV Canal

defect, PDA , a second ASD and a common valve. Personally we don't care for

CHOP (but it's all about personal preference). Nic's heart was repaired at

Deborah there in Brownsmills, NJ. His surgeon is now at St. 's in

Philly. If Nic ever needs more surgery I'd go to him, Dr. Marshall s.

His cardiologist said Ni'cs repair is the best she'd ever seen. He was 11

weeks old at the time of surgery.

I can't wait to find out if your baby is a boy or girl. 80) BTW, Nic's

birthday is March 1...

> Hi all.

>

> Found your group on a DS support group list. I've also contacted DSNetwork

> 21. I'm not exactly computer savvy, so I apologize if I've already posted

> here, but I'll introduce myself anyway.

>

> My name is , and I'm pregnant with my third child. My husband and I

> each have two kids from previous marriages, so this is number 5....the

> " ours " baby. We found out a couple of months ago that the baby has Down

> Syndrome. I've been literally bombarding myself with information since the

> day we found out there MIGHT be a " problem " with the baby, and the best

> resources I've found are the accounts and stories of other parents.

>

> I know that I'll be delivering during the first week of March (via

> c-section). I do know what I'm having, but my husband does not, so I can't

> reveal that little tidbit of information as of yet. The baby has two small

> holes (one is the av canal defect) that will require surgery, but not

> immediately. I'll be delivering in New Brunswick (here in NJ), and the

> baby

> will have the surgery performed at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia.

> Beyond that, everything else is wait-and-see.

>

> We initially found out there was something amiss when I had a targeted

> ultrasound during my fourth month. I realized the technicians were taking

> a

> LOT of pictures, but figured things had changed since I had my son (7

> years

> ago) and that they were either being very thorough, or they weren't very

> good at it! lol Anyway, the doctor told us that day that she had a VERY

> strong feeling that the baby had a genetic abnormality....most likely DS.

> They saw an absence of the fetal nasal bone (apprently a very strong

> indicator), a possible hear defect, and a smaller 5th digit on the hand.

> (All of which I explained away over the next few days and convinced myself

> that the doctor didn't know what SHE was doing, either!) It took a few

> minutes for me to believe that the conversation was happening, and then I

> lost it.....for about 3 minutes......then I was fine, then I wasn't, then

> I

> was fine again......etc. I'm sure you've all been there!!!! Anyway, we

> decided to have an immediate

> amnio, and we now know for sure.

>

> So, in a nutshell, we're doing better and feeling more optimistic, though

> still plagued by occasional bouts of fear in the middle of the night. If

> you

> ever see a posting from me at 3 am....that's why! I look forward to

> learning

> from you all, and hopefully to also be able to share my experiences as an

> expectant mom with anyone else out there in the same boat.

>

> Thanks for your time.

> Hurley

>

>

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In a message dated 1/9/2007 9:05:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

anndmasch@... writes:

Kid, here's the deal. These children are a helluva lot

of work and a helluva lot of fun. "

How true!!!

Toni-Mom to Jasmine-15-and still a lot of work-but when she's not being

stubborn-she's so much fun!

And the pleasure she gets out of the most simple things is a priceless

reminder to us that the best things in life really are the simple things

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Hi ,

Welcome to your new life! Mother of a special baby! I am the mother of

Amelia (6ds) and Jake (5.) I always have mixed feelings about the word

" special " but in the end I figure it is a pretty nice, and indeed for me

accurate, description of Amelia. I didn't know Amelia had DS until she was

born-someday I will bore the group with the weirdness of that fact alone-but I

do remember the feeling of shock and dismay that I felt when they told me. Like

you, I lost it. I sat in my hospital bed feeling numb and largely uninterested

in this baby I had given birth to an hour earlier. My mother called me on the

phone, having been told by my sister that Amelia had Down Syndrome, and she said

something to me that has served me many times since. Her words were " Yes, I

know she has Downs but I am going to suggest that you go in the NICU and see how

beautiful she is and enjoy your baby. " I went down to the NICU and looked at

her little self and thought and saw that she is really

quite beautiful. That was the beginning of the greatest love I have ever

known. So simple, but in fact that is exactly what I have done for the last six

years. She has been a total joy in our lives. Plus, let's face it-Down Syndrome

awareness has been very positive in the past few decades and many people welcome

my daughter with open arms for no other reason then the fact that she has DS.

She has taught us how to accept, love, and fight for a loved one on a level we

never would have known otherwise. Some of this you can only get from direct

experience, but it is wonderful to know, and tap into, a community of folks who

know where you are coming from. I remember when I was still in the hospital I

received a call from a friend of a friend. She was about 60 years old and her

son was 33 with DS. She had one of those voices that you associate with lots of

cigarettes, coffee, and a little whiskey. She said to me " Kid, here's the deal.

These children are a helluva lot

of work and a helluva lot of fun. "

Ann Masch

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You have a wonderful story .keep sharing it!

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of Ann Masch

Sent: January 9, 2007 8:56 AM

Subject: Re: New to site

Hi ,

Welcome to your new life! Mother of a special baby! I am the mother of

Amelia (6ds) and Jake (5.) I always have mixed feelings about the word

" special " but in the end I figure it is a pretty nice, and indeed for me

accurate, description of Amelia. I didn't know Amelia had DS until she was

born-someday I will bore the group with the weirdness of that fact alone-but

I do remember the feeling of shock and dismay that I felt when they told me.

Like you, I lost it. I sat in my hospital bed feeling numb and largely

uninterested in this baby I had given birth to an hour earlier. My mother

called me on the phone, having been told by my sister that Amelia had Down

Syndrome, and she said something to me that has served me many times since.

Her words were " Yes, I know she has Downs but I am going to suggest that you

go in the NICU and see how beautiful she is and enjoy your baby. " I went

down to the NICU and looked at her little self and thought and saw that she

is really

quite beautiful. That was the beginning of the greatest love I have ever

known. So simple, but in fact that is exactly what I have done for the last

six years. She has been a total joy in our lives. Plus, let's face it-Down

Syndrome awareness has been very positive in the past few decades and many

people welcome my daughter with open arms for no other reason then the fact

that she has DS. She has taught us how to accept, love, and fight for a

loved one on a level we never would have known otherwise. Some of this you

can only get from direct experience, but it is wonderful to know, and tap

into, a community of folks who know where you are coming from. I remember

when I was still in the hospital I received a call from a friend of a

friend. She was about 60 years old and her son was 33 with DS. She had one

of those voices that you associate with lots of cigarettes, coffee, and a

little whiskey. She said to me " Kid, here's the deal. These children are a

helluva lot

of work and a helluva lot of fun. "

Ann Masch

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Hello! Welcome to the group. What a hard time you're going

through. My daughter is 9 years old, and was diagnosed with moderate

to severe OCD in May. Is up to 200 mg of LUVOX a day, and is doing

very well at this time. My heart and prayers go out to you and your

family. You will find much support here. If I can help you with

anything, or you just need to chat, please feel free to drop a line

any time.

Sincerely,

in GA

> Hi everyone,

> My name is Laurie and I have two children adopted but not

biological

> who happen to have a variety of difficulties. I have had both my

> children since they were babies. My ds who is now 14 has always

> presented as different and was diagnosed with asperger's at the age

of

> 5. He was very precocious in academic areas but lacked in social.

My dd

> showed what I thought was no sign of problems until the 2nd grade

when

> she bloomed into tourette's and OCD. Her OCD started with touching

and

> the inability to tolerate touching paper objects. She is now 10 and

> will be going into 5th grade. She is in crisis. She has been

> hospitalized 3 times in one year. She self abuses, picks and pulls

hair

> out. My son does fairly well.. My daughter is in this satge where

she

> can't stop apologizing and demands responses to her apologizing

then

> screams because they aren't good enough and this means no one loves

> her. The stress in our home is unbearable. Help?

>

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Hello! Welcome to the group. What a hard time you're going

through. My daughter is 9 years old, and was diagnosed with moderate

to severe OCD in May. Is up to 200 mg of LUVOX a day, and is doing

very well at this time. My heart and prayers go out to you and your

family. You will find much support here. If I can help you with

anything, or you just need to chat, please feel free to drop a line

any time.

Sincerely,

in GA

> Hi everyone,

> My name is Laurie and I have two children adopted but not

biological

> who happen to have a variety of difficulties. I have had both my

> children since they were babies. My ds who is now 14 has always

> presented as different and was diagnosed with asperger's at the age

of

> 5. He was very precocious in academic areas but lacked in social.

My dd

> showed what I thought was no sign of problems until the 2nd grade

when

> she bloomed into tourette's and OCD. Her OCD started with touching

and

> the inability to tolerate touching paper objects. She is now 10 and

> will be going into 5th grade. She is in crisis. She has been

> hospitalized 3 times in one year. She self abuses, picks and pulls

hair

> out. My son does fairly well.. My daughter is in this satge where

she

> can't stop apologizing and demands responses to her apologizing

then

> screams because they aren't good enough and this means no one loves

> her. The stress in our home is unbearable. Help?

>

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Hi Laurie,

Welcome to the group! This is such an excellent group for help and support!

I have three children, ages 12, 10 and 5. My two youngest have OCD.

Is your daughter in therapy and/or on any meds?

We all know how hard this is!

Hang in there!

Hugs

Judy

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Hi Laurie,

Welcome to the group! This is such an excellent group for help and support!

I have three children, ages 12, 10 and 5. My two youngest have OCD.

Is your daughter in therapy and/or on any meds?

We all know how hard this is!

Hang in there!

Hugs

Judy

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>

> Hi Laurie,

> Welcome to the group! This is such an excellent group for help and

support!

> I have three children, ages 12, 10 and 5. My two youngest have OCD.

> Is your daughter in therapy and/or on any meds?

> We all know how hard this is!

> Hang in there!

> Hugs

> Judy

>

>

>

>

>

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> Hi Laurie,

> Welcome to the group! This is such an excellent group for help and

support!

> I have three children, ages 12, 10 and 5. My two youngest have OCD.

> Is your daughter in therapy and/or on any meds?

> We all know how hard this is!

> Hang in there!

> Hugs

> Judy

>

>

>

>

>

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Laurie,

All I can do is offer hugs. I know you're under a huge deal of stress. Please

try to take care of yourself and know we're all here for you.

laurienajarian <laurienajarian@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

My name is Laurie and I have two children adopted but not biological

who happen to have a variety of difficulties. I have had both my

children since they were babies. My ds who is now 14 has always

presented as different and was diagnosed with asperger's at the age of

5. He was very precocious in academic areas but lacked in social. My dd

showed what I thought was no sign of problems until the 2nd grade when

she bloomed into tourette's and OCD. Her OCD started with touching and

the inability to tolerate touching paper objects. She is now 10 and

will be going into 5th grade. She is in crisis. She has been

hospitalized 3 times in one year. She self abuses, picks and pulls hair

out. My son does fairly well.. My daughter is in this satge where she

can't stop apologizing and demands responses to her apologizing then

screams because they aren't good enough and this means no one loves

her. The stress in our home is unbearable. Help?

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Laurie,

All I can do is offer hugs. I know you're under a huge deal of stress. Please

try to take care of yourself and know we're all here for you.

laurienajarian <laurienajarian@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

My name is Laurie and I have two children adopted but not biological

who happen to have a variety of difficulties. I have had both my

children since they were babies. My ds who is now 14 has always

presented as different and was diagnosed with asperger's at the age of

5. He was very precocious in academic areas but lacked in social. My dd

showed what I thought was no sign of problems until the 2nd grade when

she bloomed into tourette's and OCD. Her OCD started with touching and

the inability to tolerate touching paper objects. She is now 10 and

will be going into 5th grade. She is in crisis. She has been

hospitalized 3 times in one year. She self abuses, picks and pulls hair

out. My son does fairly well.. My daughter is in this satge where she

can't stop apologizing and demands responses to her apologizing then

screams because they aren't good enough and this means no one loves

her. The stress in our home is unbearable. Help?

---------------------------------

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Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games.

---------------------------------

Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.

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Hi Laurie,

Are you seeing a therapist and learning how to incorporate cbt into your

lives? My dd (10) also had issues with apologizing. That one sort of

fizzled out when we addressed some of the other more pressing issues. But

one of the things I did to help was to sit her down when she was NOT having

any issues and explain to her that it was the ocd monster who was needing to

hear such reassurances and that my answering him fed him. I told her I was

not going to feed him any more and that even though I knew she was sorry,

after saying it twice, I was not going to respond. IT was hard and it was

very anxiety provoking for her when I did not respond, but it also helped

that particular anxiety to fizzle out far quicker than if I had given in.

We're still struggling with reassurance questions like " why did I do that? "

Or " why did I say that? " " I don't know why I did that. " And would take any

suggestions that anyone else has to combat those issues. When she gets over

whelmed with them, I have her take 5 minutes and Just be quiet. But despite

the fact that I am not trying to punish her, it feels like a punishment to

her. It does help though and it makes her more peaceful after. Other

ideas?

Shaw

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Hi Laurie,

Are you seeing a therapist and learning how to incorporate cbt into your

lives? My dd (10) also had issues with apologizing. That one sort of

fizzled out when we addressed some of the other more pressing issues. But

one of the things I did to help was to sit her down when she was NOT having

any issues and explain to her that it was the ocd monster who was needing to

hear such reassurances and that my answering him fed him. I told her I was

not going to feed him any more and that even though I knew she was sorry,

after saying it twice, I was not going to respond. IT was hard and it was

very anxiety provoking for her when I did not respond, but it also helped

that particular anxiety to fizzle out far quicker than if I had given in.

We're still struggling with reassurance questions like " why did I do that? "

Or " why did I say that? " " I don't know why I did that. " And would take any

suggestions that anyone else has to combat those issues. When she gets over

whelmed with them, I have her take 5 minutes and Just be quiet. But despite

the fact that I am not trying to punish her, it feels like a punishment to

her. It does help though and it makes her more peaceful after. Other

ideas?

Shaw

game-enthusiast@...

Life is Good!

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>

> Hi Laurie,

>

> Are you seeing a therapist and learning how to incorporate cbt into

your

> lives? My dd (10) also had issues with apologizing. That one sort

of

> fizzled out when we addressed some of the other more pressing

issues. But

> one of the things I did to help was to sit her down when she was

NOT having

> any issues and explain to her that it was the ocd monster who was

needing to

> hear such reassurances and that my answering him fed him. I told

her I was

> not going to feed him any more and that even though I knew she was

sorry,

> after saying it twice, I was not going to respond. IT was hard and

it was

> very anxiety provoking for her when I did not respond, but it also

helped

> that particular anxiety to fizzle out far quicker than if I had

given in.

>

> We're still struggling with reassurance questions like " why did I

do that? "

> Or " why did I say that? " " I don't know why I did that. " And would

take any

> suggestions that anyone else has to combat those issues. When she

gets over

> whelmed with them, I have her take 5 minutes and Just be quiet.

But despite

> the fact that I am not trying to punish her, it feels like a

punishment to

> her. It does help though and it makes her more peaceful after.

Other

> ideas?

>

>

> Shaw

> game-enthusiast@...

> Life is Good!

>

Thank you : )

At this point they are putting that on hold as her self injuring is

the most pressing issue at this point. My greatest fear is that she

likes the pain. I doesn't seem like " just " a punishment to herself

but as a stress release as well. I have my daughter take space....at

first I considered it horrible to do to her when she was so out of

control but know she knows that even if she refuses to go ...she will

have to take space and have to calm down. Taking space benefits

everyone. there will come a time I hope when dd cab take space

without even leaving the room. We shall see.

Laurie

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Hi Laurie, welcome! Glad you found us! This group has been my best

support through the years. I joined years ago when my now 18yr old

son was nearing age 12, when his OCD began. He also has an Aspergers

diagnosis. (Sounds a bit like your son, great in academics but not

in social)

I'm sorry your dd is doing so bad now!! Has she had some calm (or

calmer) years since 2nd grade and the OCD just got much worse this

past year??

My 's OCD began in 6th grade with a lot of touching OCD,

having to do with the " just right " and " something bad will happen to

me " feelings. Well we got through that eventually and now his OCD is

basically bad thoughts and mainly religion/scrupulosity problems;

he's pretty bad this year. He's not on any medication (yet) for the

thoughts, wants to learn to get through this without. But if

something doesn't improve, I see medication coming. He's willing to

try " alternative " to help but not prescription. He just has (after

all these years) begun seeing a therapist and we're hoping things

improve, have only had 2 visits so far, next is later this week.

Your not-right responses to your dd --- has a nonidentical

twin who went through similar but way back in the toddler/preschool

age. If I didn't do things exactly the way he told me to, he'd be

crying and foot stomping and telling me to start over. With him this

usually was he would call me and want me to walk into the room, turn

left or right, certain number of steps...he'd direct me. And he had

to have other things " right " like this blanket he would like on,

couldn't be a wrinkle in it, would be all in tears trying to smooth

it out before he could like on it; he had to have his shoes tied

tight " enough " ...just lots of little things (thought I'd go crazy

with his directing my moves) that eventually (very thankfully)

stopped. I imagine your dd might react at times the same way he did

when I would mess up!

single mom, 3 sons

, 18, with OCD, dysgraphia and Aspergers/HFA

>

> Hi everyone,

> My name is Laurie and I have two children adopted but not

biological

> who happen to have a variety of difficulties. I have had both my

> children since they were babies. My ds who is now 14 has always

> presented as different and was diagnosed with asperger's at the age

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WOW Marie - THANKS for the really nice introduction and the testimonial about how this email list has been helpful. Do you mind if I print this out and share it at my shows? (to get people to see that the list might benefit them!)Also, I'm considering adding some testimonials about this list to my website on the page that talks about this list (with permission of course) Would that be ok?

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<:)))><

On May 21, 2011, at 7:20 AM, marie7137 wrote:

Hi I have been on this site for a couple weeks. I love it I have had my vita-Mix for about 12 years and hardly used it Boy I am using it now I have made Almond milk and ground flake coconut to coconut flour I am going to grind my quinoa into flour I am trying to eat Glutin Free

and it is new and hard also trying to not use sugar in cooking and no corn or corn product. I am still learning and this site is fantastic.

Thank you everyone for the great hints and recipes.

Marie in TX.

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Thank You Lea Ann

It will make me very happy for you to use it.

Marie

From: lsavage@...Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 07:23:50 -0400Subject: Re: New to site

WOW Marie - THANKS for the really nice introduction and the testimonial about how this email list has been helpful. Do you mind if I print this out and share it at my shows? (to get people to see that the list might benefit them!)

Also, I'm considering adding some testimonials about this list to my website on the page that talks about this list (with permission of course) Would that be ok?

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<:)))><

On May 21, 2011, at 7:20 AM, marie7137 wrote:

Hi I have been on this site for a couple weeks. I love it I have had my vita-Mix for about 12 years and hardly used it Boy I am using it now I have made Almond milk and ground flake coconut to coconut flour I am going to grind my quinoa into flour I am trying to eat Glutin Freeand it is new and hard also trying to not use sugar in cooking and no corn or corn product. I am still learning and this site is fantastic.Thank you everyone for the great hints and recipes.Marie in TX.

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