Introduction

[Guest guest]

My computer has been giving me some problems (I think it is because of an

overloaded inbox with all the messages from the I am on, but

that is a good thing!), so I am not as active on this list as I would like,

but I just recently stopped nursing my Peanut who is 43 months old (will be

4 on October 11) about two weeks ago. I was unsure how it was going to go,

so I didn’t say anything yet, but she is doing fine. I was so afraid that

she wouldn’t be able to sleep (as I had *always* nursed her to sleep) or she

would cry a lot (and we do *not* do CIO) or that she would start getting

sick, but, so far, none of that has happened. She still “forgets” sometimes

and reaches to pull down my shirt at night, but I just gently remind her,

and she just goes right back to sleep or, if she is more awake, says “oh,

yeah; I forgot. (giggle)” No one IRL seems to understand why I would be sad

about her finally stopping the nursing, but I am. My little baby who was

only 5 pounds at birth is now tall enough at 3 ½ to be confused with a 5

year old! My tiny little girl who would cry “ma-ma” at 3 months is now

telling me stories that she made up and is pretending to read to our dog and

our chickens, and already consistently recognizes 14 of the 26 letters of

the alphabet! She is growing up too fast! I just needed to share with some

Mamas who I know will understand!

Kim in Ventura, CA

Wife to Port (12-19-01)

Mama to Peanut (born safely at home, unassisted, 10-11-04)

“Mama” to Cory (2 year old Shepherd mix girl), Godiva (4 year old mini-Lop

bunny girl) and 3 girl Bantam chicks (Spirit, Girlfriend, and Mama Horsey –

cuz what else would you name chicks after but horses?! – hee-hee!) & our

newest additions Rain & Flicka (our Millie Fleur chicks – love the feathery

feet!)

Re: Introduction

Good to have you aboard, Deedee, welcome!

I commend you for breastfeeding for as long as you have. It's always

nice to hear of others who are like-minded. I'm the " kook " in my

family for still breastfeeding my toddler, eating as naturally as

possible, not vaxing (for that I'm more than a kook, I'm also

irresponsible and I'm abusing my child...), etc. I currently still

breastfeed my 28 month old, as well as my newborn, and I know it will

be a truly heartbreaking (although maybe slightly relieving) day when

my toddler decides he doesn't need mama's milk anymore.

I look forward to seeing more from you; I'm sure you will contribute

much to our group!

[Guest guest]

Hi, Kim. Why did you stop nursing her? It's okay to go on until she gives it up.

Winnie

Re: Introduction

>

>

>

> Good to have you aboard, Deedee, welcome!

>

> I commend you for breastfeeding for as long as you have. It's always

> nice to hear of others who are like-minded. I'm the " kook " in my

> family for still breastfeeding my toddler, eating as naturally as

> possible, not vaxing (for that I'm more than a kook, I'm also

> irresponsible and I'm abusing my child...), etc. I currently still

> breastfeed my 28 month old, as well as my newborn, and I know it will

> be a truly heartbreaking (although maybe slightly relieving) day when

> my toddler decides he doesn't need mama's milk anymore.

>

> I look forward to seeing more from you; I'm sure you will contribute

> much to our group!

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Winnie.

Honestly, I was ready for a break. She nursed exclusively until she was 11

months old (no bottles, no pacifiers, no sippy cups, nada), and now she is a

fabulous eater (she loves steak, chicken, broccoli, tomatoes (a lot!), fish

of all kinds (even raw oysters occasionally! Weird kid!), etc. She used to

want to nurse almost constantly over night and for 30-40 minutes every

morning when I just desperately wanted to get up and go potty(!), and she

has already had to have dental work done due to a cracked tooth from a fall,

etc. I actually wrote this message about two weeks ago, and I just finished

it last night and sent it without changing much, but some has changed since

then. Now I am letting her nurse if she wants, but I limit it to a few

minutes, so I am still making milk, and she is still getting some of the

immune boost. She is sleeping better without waking up all hours to have

more " nummy nums " , and she only wakes up one time a night to go potty a few

days a week, so it is better for me and dh (we cosleep), and her naps are

easier, too. I always said I wanted to let her self-wean, and I guess I am

trying to just modify that concept a little, so we are both happy. It is

really working well for us, and she doesn't get upset or cry at the times I

do say no, and she is pleasantly surprised and happy when I say yes, so

everything is going great, I think. I want to expose her to chicken pox

(once I get dh onboard), and I want her to still have that option to nurse

when she is not feeling well. Thanks for the support and encouragement,

Winnie!

Kim

Wife to Port (12-19-01)

Mama to Peanut (born safely at home, unassisted, 10-11-04)

" Mama " to Cory (2 y.o. Shepherd mix girl), Godiva (4 y.o. mini-Lop bunny

girl) & 3 girl Bantam chicks (Spirit, Girlfriend, & Mama Horsey) & our

newest additions Rain & Flicka (our Millie Fleur chicks)

Hi, Kim. Why did you stop nursing her? It's okay to go on until she gives it

up.

Winnie

[Guest guest]

Hi and wellcome

Just curious. What information (proof) do you have

that any vaccine prevents disease.

Jim O'

Founder of S.I.N.B.A.D.

Shots in body's are dangerous

Introduction

Hello everyone!

I am new to this list (i've been browsing the past few days but hadn't

a chance to post yet). I have several hats (as do we all I'm sure) I

am a mom to 1 year old ; I am an early intervention physical

therapist and special educator, and I co-lead a local chapter of the

Holistic Moms Network here in Northern VA. So I come to this group

seeking support and information on all of these fronts.

We have selectively vaccinated thus far. Since there has been some

discussion of newborn procedures lately, I'll add my 2 cents.

The " eye goop " is no longer silver nitrite - it is an antibiotic

ointment. We felt that Vitamin K was important only if we had a boy

that we would circumcise in the hospital (lots of " ifs " - we did not

know the sex of the baby and were on the fence about circumsicion, so

we left that open to discussion after the baby was born - we had a

girl) At our hospital, we could waive any or all of the newborn

procedures without too much fuss. Especially with the Hep B, our

midwives, pediatricians and the hospital staff seemed really

unconcerned with our decision to decline.

I have found that well baby checks have been fine - but I have worked

with babies for many years and feel very comfortable with the care and

the individuality of that care. I think without that experience I

would be very confused and intimidated by some of the docs. I do

sometimes wonder why I go, and have the same weight discussions about

my baby that some of you have mentioned here. I have found that

honesty and partnering with them has helped with our discussions about

vaccines, sleeping, eating, etc. They hear me and I hear them and we

(DH and I) make good decisions with information to back it up. As we

go along, I am hoping to glean research and alternative perspectives

from this group not only for my own parenthood journey, but for the

many other parents I see in one capacity or another.

Pleasure to meet you all.

Laurie - Northern Virginia

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Thanks for the welcome. I'm not sure what you are referring to. I

don't think I said that any vaccine prevents disease.

>

> Hi and wellcome

> Just curious. What information (proof) do you have

> that any vaccine prevents disease.

> Jim O'

> Founder of S.I.N.B.A.D.

> Shots in body's are dangerous

>

>

>

> Introduction

>

>

> Hello everyone!

> I am new to this list (i've been browsing the past few days but

hadn't

> a chance to post yet). I have several hats (as do we all I'm sure)

I

> am a mom to 1 year old ; I am an early intervention

physical

> therapist and special educator, and I co-lead a local chapter of

the

> Holistic Moms Network here in Northern VA. So I come to this group

> seeking support and information on all of these fronts.

>

> We have selectively vaccinated thus far. Since there has been some

> discussion of newborn procedures lately, I'll add my 2 cents.

> The " eye goop " is no longer silver nitrite - it is an antibiotic

> ointment. We felt that Vitamin K was important only if we had a boy

> that we would circumcise in the hospital (lots of " ifs " - we did

not

> know the sex of the baby and were on the fence about circumsicion,

so

> we left that open to discussion after the baby was born - we had a

> girl) At our hospital, we could waive any or all of the newborn

> procedures without too much fuss. Especially with the Hep B, our

> midwives, pediatricians and the hospital staff seemed really

> unconcerned with our decision to decline.

>

> I have found that well baby checks have been fine - but I have

worked

> with babies for many years and feel very comfortable with the care

and

> the individuality of that care. I think without that experience I

> would be very confused and intimidated by some of the docs. I do

> sometimes wonder why I go, and have the same weight discussions

about

> my baby that some of you have mentioned here. I have found that

> honesty and partnering with them has helped with our discussions

about

> vaccines, sleeping, eating, etc. They hear me and I hear them and

we

> (DH and I) make good decisions with information to back it up. As

we

> go along, I am hoping to glean research and alternative

perspectives

> from this group not only for my own parenthood journey, but for the

> many other parents I see in one capacity or another.

>

> Pleasure to meet you all.

> Laurie - Northern Virginia

>

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Hi

I think I was responding to the part about selective vaxing, which if one was

doing that I would assume that the person believing that some vaxs prevent. If

not the intent I apologize.

Introduction

>

>

> Hello everyone!

> I am new to this list (i've been browsing the past few days but

hadn't

> a chance to post yet). I have several hats (as do we all I'm sure)

I

> am a mom to 1 year old ; I am an early intervention

physical

> therapist and special educator, and I co-lead a local chapter of

the

> Holistic Moms Network here in Northern VA. So I come to this group

> seeking support and information on all of these fronts.

>

> We have selectively vaccinated thus far. Since there has been some

> discussion of newborn procedures lately, I'll add my 2 cents.

> The " eye goop " is no longer silver nitrite - it is an antibiotic

> ointment. We felt that Vitamin K was important only if we had a boy

> that we would circumcise in the hospital (lots of " ifs " - we did

not

> know the sex of the baby and were on the fence about circumsicion,

so

> we left that open to discussion after the baby was born - we had a

> girl) At our hospital, we could waive any or all of the newborn

> procedures without too much fuss. Especially with the Hep B, our

> midwives, pediatricians and the hospital staff seemed really

> unconcerned with our decision to decline.

>

> I have found that well baby checks have been fine - but I have

worked

> with babies for many years and feel very comfortable with the care

and

> the individuality of that care. I think without that experience I

> would be very confused and intimidated by some of the docs. I do

> sometimes wonder why I go, and have the same weight discussions

about

> my baby that some of you have mentioned here. I have found that

> honesty and partnering with them has helped with our discussions

about

> vaccines, sleeping, eating, etc. They hear me and I hear them and

we

> (DH and I) make good decisions with information to back it up. As

we

> go along, I am hoping to glean research and alternative

perspectives

> from this group not only for my own parenthood journey, but for the

> many other parents I see in one capacity or another.

>

> Pleasure to meet you all.

> Laurie - Northern Virginia

>

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Hi

I think I was responding to the part about selective vaxing, which if one was

doing that I would assume that the person believing that some vaxs prevent. If

not the intent I apologize.

Introduction

>

>

> Hello everyone!

> I am new to this list (i've been browsing the past few days but

hadn't

> a chance to post yet). I have several hats (as do we all I'm sure)

I

> am a mom to 1 year old ; I am an early intervention

physical

> therapist and special educator, and I co-lead a local chapter of

the

> Holistic Moms Network here in Northern VA. So I come to this group

> seeking support and information on all of these fronts.

>

> We have selectively vaccinated thus far. Since there has been some

> discussion of newborn procedures lately, I'll add my 2 cents.

> The " eye goop " is no longer silver nitrite - it is an antibiotic

> ointment. We felt that Vitamin K was important only if we had a boy

> that we would circumcise in the hospital (lots of " ifs " - we did

not

> know the sex of the baby and were on the fence about circumsicion,

so

> we left that open to discussion after the baby was born - we had a

> girl) At our hospital, we could waive any or all of the newborn

> procedures without too much fuss. Especially with the Hep B, our

> midwives, pediatricians and the hospital staff seemed really

> unconcerned with our decision to decline.

>

> I have found that well baby checks have been fine - but I have

worked

> with babies for many years and feel very comfortable with the care

and

> the individuality of that care. I think without that experience I

> would be very confused and intimidated by some of the docs. I do

> sometimes wonder why I go, and have the same weight discussions

about

> my baby that some of you have mentioned here. I have found that

> honesty and partnering with them has helped with our discussions

about

> vaccines, sleeping, eating, etc. They hear me and I hear them and

we

> (DH and I) make good decisions with information to back it up. As

we

> go along, I am hoping to glean research and alternative

perspectives

> from this group not only for my own parenthood journey, but for the

> many other parents I see in one capacity or another.

>

> Pleasure to meet you all.

> Laurie - Northern Virginia

>

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[Guest guest]

Welcome, Laurie! Good point about not being intimidated because you have

experience with babies. I know I was clueless how to take care of them and did

follow the lead of the docs.

It's all so new, parents really want to do the right thing and for many of us,

that included vaccinating. I'm so glad you are having a good relationship with

your ped. I'm sure he/she will learn a lot from you!

Winnie

Introduction

Vaccinations

> Hello everyone!

> I am new to this list (i've been browsing the past few days but

> hadn't

> a chance to post yet). I have several hats (as do we all I'm

> sure) I

> am a mom to 1 year old ; I am an early intervention

> physical

> therapist and special educator, and I co-lead a local chapter of

> the

> Holistic Moms Network here in Northern VA. So I come to this

> group

> seeking support and information on all of these fronts.

>

> We have selectively vaccinated thus far. Since there has been

> some

> discussion of newborn procedures lately, I'll add my 2 cents.

> The " eye goop " is no longer silver nitrite - it is an antibiotic

> ointment. We felt that Vitamin K was important only if we had a

> boy

> that we would circumcise in the hospital (lots of " ifs " - we did

> not

> know the sex of the baby and were on the fence about

> circumsicion, so

> we left that open to discussion after the baby was born - we had

> a

> girl) At our hospital, we could waive any or all of the newborn

> procedures without too much fuss. Especially with the Hep B,

> our

> midwives, pediatricians and the hospital staff seemed really

> unconcerned with our decision to decline.

>

> I have found that well baby checks have been fine - but I have

> worked

> with babies for many years and feel very comfortable with the

> care and

> the individuality of that care. I think without that experience

> I

> would be very confused and intimidated by some of the docs. I

> do

> sometimes wonder why I go, and have the same weight discussions

> about

> my baby that some of you have mentioned here. I have found that

> honesty and partnering with them has helped with our discussions

> about

> vaccines, sleeping, eating, etc. They hear me and I hear them

> and we

> (DH and I) make good decisions with information to back it up.

> As we

> go along, I am hoping to glean research and alternative

> perspectives

> from this group not only for my own parenthood journey, but for

> the

> many other parents I see in one capacity or another.

>

> Pleasure to meet you all.

> Laurie - Northern Virginia

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome, Laurie! Good point about not being intimidated because you have

experience with babies. I know I was clueless how to take care of them and did

follow the lead of the docs.

It's all so new, parents really want to do the right thing and for many of us,

that included vaccinating. I'm so glad you are having a good relationship with

your ped. I'm sure he/she will learn a lot from you!

Winnie

Introduction

Vaccinations

> Hello everyone!

> I am new to this list (i've been browsing the past few days but

> hadn't

> a chance to post yet). I have several hats (as do we all I'm

> sure) I

> am a mom to 1 year old ; I am an early intervention

> physical

> therapist and special educator, and I co-lead a local chapter of

> the

> Holistic Moms Network here in Northern VA. So I come to this

> group

> seeking support and information on all of these fronts.

>

> We have selectively vaccinated thus far. Since there has been

> some

> discussion of newborn procedures lately, I'll add my 2 cents.

> The " eye goop " is no longer silver nitrite - it is an antibiotic

> ointment. We felt that Vitamin K was important only if we had a

> boy

> that we would circumcise in the hospital (lots of " ifs " - we did

> not

> know the sex of the baby and were on the fence about

> circumsicion, so

> we left that open to discussion after the baby was born - we had

> a

> girl) At our hospital, we could waive any or all of the newborn

> procedures without too much fuss. Especially with the Hep B,

> our

> midwives, pediatricians and the hospital staff seemed really

> unconcerned with our decision to decline.

>

> I have found that well baby checks have been fine - but I have

> worked

> with babies for many years and feel very comfortable with the

> care and

> the individuality of that care. I think without that experience

> I

> would be very confused and intimidated by some of the docs. I

> do

> sometimes wonder why I go, and have the same weight discussions

> about

> my baby that some of you have mentioned here. I have found that

> honesty and partnering with them has helped with our discussions

> about

> vaccines, sleeping, eating, etc. They hear me and I hear them

> and we

> (DH and I) make good decisions with information to back it up.

> As we

> go along, I am hoping to glean research and alternative

> perspectives

> from this group not only for my own parenthood journey, but for

> the

> many other parents I see in one capacity or another.

>

> Pleasure to meet you all.

> Laurie - Northern Virginia

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the welcome!

I know every parent wants to and is doing the best they know and the

best they can for their child at any given time. It is very hard when

the way you want to parent is not the way that many people expect (in

terms of breastfeeding, diapering, vaccinations, cosleeping, what have

you) It is wonderful to have the support of others as you make

decisions that are right for your family.

Laurie

Northern VA

>

> Welcome, Laurie! Good point about not being intimidated because you

have experience with babies. I know I was clueless how to take care of

them and did follow the lead of the docs.

>

> It's all so new, parents really want to do the right thing and for

many of us, that included vaccinating. I'm so glad you are having a

good relationship with your ped. I'm sure he/she will learn a lot from

you!

>

> Winnie

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the apology - It's easy to make assumptions online isn't it.

>

> Hi

> I think I was responding to the part about selective vaxing, which if

one was doing that I would assume that the person believing that some

vaxs prevent. If not the intent I apologize.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Great another pediatric Physical Therapist!!! Welcome to the group!

Right now I am working in the geriatric population but fully intend

on getting back to kiddos soon :-)

My first job was at a large hospital in Tulsa, OK. I was the PT for

the NICU and also worked in all other areas as well. It was always

awful for those poor babies after they were vaccinated. First they

are usually tiny (premies), immune comprimised either because of

their prematurity, infections and stress of the enviroment. The

other thing I always thought was not right was that a baby who was

born say at 28 weeks (3 months early) followed the same vacciation

schedule as a full term baby???? So here are these babies in the

NICU that weight 3-4 pounds that are getting the full reccomended

vaccines plus the flu and RSV vaccine in the fall and winter.

I can not tell you how many times that a baby who was doing fine one

day and the awful the next. Come to find out that they had been

vaxed the day before and were now lethargic or screaming!!! Maybe

this is why Autism/ ADD/ADHD is higher in the premie population???

I only wish I would have realized that I shoulod apply these findings

to my own kids before Caden was damaged from them :-(

How many children do you see that parents say they were fine and the

they " changed " one day? Very sad.

Welcome!

andrea

>

> Hello everyone!

> I am new to this list (i've been browsing the past few days but

hadn't

> a chance to post yet). I have several hats (as do we all I'm sure)

I

> am a mom to 1 year old ; I am an early intervention

physical

> therapist and special educator, and I co-lead a local chapter of

the

> Holistic Moms Network here in Northern VA. So I come to this group

> seeking support and information on all of these fronts.

>

> We have selectively vaccinated thus far. Since there has been some

> discussion of newborn procedures lately, I'll add my 2 cents.

> The " eye goop " is no longer silver nitrite - it is an antibiotic

> ointment. We felt that Vitamin K was important only if we had a

boy

> that we would circumcise in the hospital (lots of " ifs " - we did

not

> know the sex of the baby and were on the fence about circumsicion,

so

> we left that open to discussion after the baby was born - we had a

> girl) At our hospital, we could waive any or all of the newborn

> procedures without too much fuss. Especially with the Hep B, our

> midwives, pediatricians and the hospital staff seemed really

> unconcerned with our decision to decline.

>

> I have found that well baby checks have been fine - but I have

worked

> with babies for many years and feel very comfortable with the care

and

> the individuality of that care. I think without that experience I

> would be very confused and intimidated by some of the docs. I do

> sometimes wonder why I go, and have the same weight discussions

about

> my baby that some of you have mentioned here. I have found that

> honesty and partnering with them has helped with our discussions

about

> vaccines, sleeping, eating, etc. They hear me and I hear them and

we

> (DH and I) make good decisions with information to back it up. As

we

> go along, I am hoping to glean research and alternative

perspectives

> from this group not only for my own parenthood journey, but for the

> many other parents I see in one capacity or another.

>

> Pleasure to meet you all.

> Laurie - Northern Virginia

>

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

We are glad you're here. Keep us informed as you learn more about your PA.

You should be very thankful for that young physician's assistant you found.

Sounds like you've had PA for 30 years.

Val

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Hello All -

It is difficult to sort out how to introduce myself. I have been

treated for high blood pressure for over 30 years. The treatments

were relatively unsuccessful. When we moved to Idaho from California

a bit over two years ago, my age became an issue in finding a doctor.

I chose a young P.A. for my primary care. After reviewing all the

data I brought with me, he was not comfortable with keeping on with

the treatment I had been prescribed. He told me that he suspected

something else was going on since my potassium levels were always so

low. He ordered a bunch of blood work, an MRI and sent me to an

endocrinologist for confirmation of his suspicions.

The diagnosis was confirmed. He also sent me to a nephrologist

because my kidney function was less that perfect. That is also being

monitored and is improving. I want to get off more of the blood

pressure medicine and feel better without the roller coaster effect I

get from it.

The thing about my hyperaldosteronism is that it takes a clear second

place to the pain I suffer from postherpetic neuralgia. I know that

one is clearly treatable and the other isn't at this time. The pain I

have from the PHN is 24/7. There is nothing available yet that will

do anything to diminish it. I have had PHN for 5 years.

I look forward to learning more about my more recently diagnosed

condition and beginning to get a handle on that part of me. I also am

looking forward to a new treatment for PHN. I was part of a clinical

trial for PHN pain control about 4 years ago. It worked. The company

that makes the product is bringing it to the the FDA in the last

quarter of this year. Now all I have to do is wait for them to

approve it after they get it and the pain will finally be under control.

For any who are interested, the new product is called NGX-4010 and is

a trans-dermal patch. After one application, I was nearly pain-free

for three months. You can see why I am looking forward to its release.

God bless you.

Sollywally

[Guest guest]

Hi, Jodie. Welcome and congratulations on your pregnancy! It's very exciting,

isn't it? Good for you to look into this now when there's already so much to

learn about pregnancy and childbirth. I thought doing research meant reading the

CDC vaccine statements the pediatrician handed me as they gave my first two

children shots.

My advice is for you in doing your research is to look for proof any vaccine

works, proof they are safe, and be aware there are alternatives to ensuring your

baby's health that do not include vaccines. Get the facts (not the marketing

propaganda), and go with your instincts. Don't base your decisions on what

anyone, including me, tells you. You're the mom!

Winnie

Introduction

Vaccinations

> Hi,

> My name's Jodie Miles, i'm from the UK and have joined this list

> in

> order to further my research into vaccines. I am currently

> nearly 19

> weeks pregnant and want to know all i can about vaccines before

> my

> first child is due thier initial immunisations which in the UK

> start at

> 2 months old. I work with children who have autism on ABA

> programmes so

> am aware of this area of vaccine damage, even though neither of

> the

> children i work with have autism due to the MMR.

> Anyway that's me for now, look forward to getting as much

> information

> as i can before my baby is 2 months old!

> Thank you

> Jodie

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi and welcome

Just for openers. Immunisations, vaccination an inoculation are different

things.

Inoculation is what they did before Jenners time. A scratch in the arm.

Vaccination

is injecting the needle and immunisation is what the body builds through proper

food and exercise.

You came to the right place, lots of intelligent people here who are only to

glad to help.

Good luck

Jim O'

Founder of S.I.N.B.A.D

Shots in body's are dangerous

and drugs too

Introduction

Hi,

My name's Jodie Miles, i'm from the UK and have joined this list in

order to further my research into vaccines. I am currently nearly 19

weeks pregnant and want to know all i can about vaccines before my

first child is due thier initial immunisations which in the UK start at

2 months old. I work with children who have autism on ABA programmes so

am aware of this area of vaccine damage, even though neither of the

children i work with have autism due to the MMR.

Anyway that's me for now, look forward to getting as much information

as i can before my baby is 2 months old!

Thank you

Jodie

[Guest guest]

Hi, good for you to research this now. There's a lot of info out there to sift

through. Have fun!

Winnie

Introduction

Vaccinations

> Hello. My husband and I don't have kids yet but I started researching

> vaccines about four months ago. I've learned quite a lot and I found

> this site referred on another website. It's likely that we won't do

> any vaccinations but need to look into a few more things before we

> come down definitively on that. I look forward to learning a lot here.

>

>

[Guest guest]

At 11:02 PM 8/24/2008, you wrote:

>Hello. My husband and I don't have kids yet but I started researching

>vaccines about four months ago. I've learned quite a lot and I found

>this site referred on another website. It's likely that we won't do

>any vaccinations but need to look into a few more things before we

>come down definitively on that. I look forward to learning a lot here.

Welcome!

Start with my webpages

http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm

So glad you are looking at this BEFORE having children

Sheri

listowner

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes Sept 08

[Guest guest]

Hi --

Welcome to the group, and congratulations on researching and gathering info

before you have children.

Anyway, I'm . I live in NY with DH and we have two partially vaxed

kids - DS in college, DD in HS.

You may want to check the archives -- great info there.

Health & blessings,

*My Mission is to educate families & businesses on the

financial and health benefits of going Green!

*http://www.shaklee.net/EcoClean/getclean

Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.

On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 6:02 PM, cookrmh <amdeibert@...> wrote:

> Hello. My husband and I don't have kids yet but I started researching

> vaccines about four months ago. I've learned quite a lot and I found

> this site referred on another website. It's likely that we won't do

> any vaccinations but need to look into a few more things before we

> come down definitively on that. I look forward to learning a lot here.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi there! Welcome! I'm also glad you are researching before you

have children. It just so happened that circumstances in my life

lead me to research vaccines before I had my DD as well..and we

choose not to vax.

Now..the more I read...the more I know that vaccines are truly what

is causing all of the chronic diseases we are now seeing in today's

children and adults.

Anyway, my name is Tara, my DP is , and we have one DD who is

almost 17 months old.

She just got over roseola...and I'm so glad that she got it because I

believe her immune system is now definitely stronger than it was

before she got it. It's funny because I tell my mainstream friends

she got it..and they act all concerned and " aww...that's too bad " and

then when I talk to my holistic friends, we're all jumping up and

down all excited that she got it because we know the only way to

strengthen an immune system is to get the diseases and go thru them.

Anyway...just rambling. There's lots of info here. Take your time

and try not to feel overwhelmed. And investigate before you

vaccinate..because you can never take the shot back.

GL!

Tara

>

> > Hello. My husband and I don't have kids yet but I started

researching

> > vaccines about four months ago. I've learned quite a lot and I

found

> > this site referred on another website. It's likely that we won't

do

> > any vaccinations but need to look into a few more things before we

> > come down definitively on that. I look forward to learning a lot

here.

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I wish we would have been that smart. Good for you.  The book that made the

decision to

stop vaccinating our son and our daughter has never been, was The Sanctity of

Human Blood: Vaccination is not Immunization by Tim O'Shea.

From: cookrmh <amdeibert@...>

Subject: Introduction

Vaccinations

Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 10:02 PM

Hello. My husband and I don't have kids yet but I started researching

vaccines about four months ago. I've learned quite a lot and I found

this site referred on another website. It's likely that we won't do

any vaccinations but need to look into a few more things before we

come down definitively on that. I look forward to learning a lot here.

[Guest guest]

I have the same pain that you have, buldging disc on L4-5 @ S-1. I also

been having those nerve block injections, which only last about 4 months

then jt comes back, can hardly walk, I was thinking about haveing it

opertrated on. But I did not get much relife when they replaced @ fused

C-5-6-7. so thats why i'm looking at the Pain Pump. Good Luck

>

> Hello

> My name is Kim. I have been in chronic pain since 2003. I have had

back problems since 2000 but they got really bad in 2003. I had a

laminectomy then and things went down hill from there. I was a massage

therapist at the time. Needless to say, I can no longer work in that

field. I have since been down a long road and finally found out most of

my problems are due to scoliosis. I had a 2 level lumbar fusion in 2006

which did not heal. I am in pain management for sciatic type pain that

is ongoing.

> Right now I am on meds and having SI injections. I had the last

injection yesterday which was a real booger. He injected a lot more

steroid into the site and seemed to inject into several different areas

instead of just one, like before.

> Yesterday, he asked a lot more questions including whether I had

gotten an EMG done previously. I had but its been years ago. Long story

short, he feels my hardware is sitting on the sciatic nerve and putting

pressure on that SI joint keeping it inflamed.

> He told me that we may be looking at taking out some of the hardware

and then doing rehab or continuing the current therapy, or look at doing

a SCS.

> I looked into a SCS prior to having my fusion in 06. At the time, I

saw that the positive results were very mixed at best. I want to know if

that has improved. I would really like to hear from all of you as to how

much it has helped your sciatic pain.

> My worst pain is down my left hip, left leg to the foot and big toe.

My leg burns, tingles, gets numb, I limp. etc

> Thanks I am glad to be here

> Kim

> Kim

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for your reply. Was there a reason that you are looking at the pain pump

over the SCS? I really feel that there is benefit from both and wonder which

would be best. My doc did not bring the pain pump up yesterday however. Not sure

why really. I plan on discussing this with him when I go back in .

As for your ? on the anesthesia. I was reading on the Medtronic site yesterday

and I believe that I read that both procedures do local anesthesia for the

trials. That does not mean they could not give you something to help to relax

you, however.

HTH

Re: Introduction

I have the same pain that you have, buldging disc on L4-5 @ S-1. I also

been having those nerve block injections, which only last about 4 months

then jt comes back, can hardly walk, I was thinking about haveing it

opertrated on. But I did not get much relife when they replaced @ fused

C-5-6-7. so thats why i'm looking at the Pain Pump. Good Luck

>

> Hello

> My name is Kim. I have been in chronic pain since 2003. I have had

back problems since 2000 but they got really bad in 2003. I had a

laminectomy then and things went down hill from there. I was a massage

therapist at the time. Needless to say, I can no longer work in that

field. I have since been down a long road and finally found out most of

my problems are due to scoliosis. I had a 2 level lumbar fusion in 2006

which did not heal. I am in pain management for sciatic type pain that

is ongoing.

> Right now I am on meds and having SI injections. I had the last

injection yesterday which was a real booger. He injected a lot more

steroid into the site and seemed to inject into several different areas

instead of just one, like before.

> Yesterday, he asked a lot more questions including whether I had

gotten an EMG done previously. I had but its been years ago. Long story

short, he feels my hardware is sitting on the sciatic nerve and putting

pressure on that SI joint keeping it inflamed.

> He told me that we may be looking at taking out some of the hardware

and then doing rehab or continuing the current therapy, or look at doing

a SCS.

> I looked into a SCS prior to having my fusion in 06. At the time, I

saw that the positive results were very mixed at best. I want to know if

that has improved. I would really like to hear from all of you as to how

much it has helped your sciatic pain.

> My worst pain is down my left hip, left leg to the foot and big toe.

My leg burns, tingles, gets numb, I limp. etc

> Thanks I am glad to be here

> Kim

> Kim

> Freelance Copywriter and Blogger

> Articles on Suite 101

>

http://ghosts-hauntings.suite101.com/article.cfm/the_haunting_of_carnton\

_mansion

>

http://psychic-abilities.suite101.com/article.cfm/live_online_psychic_re\

adings_guide

>

> My Blog

>

> http://ghosthuntingtips101.blogspot.com/

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Kim,

I also suffer from sciatic pain and have found that strips of the Lidoderm

patches help the pain best. I put a strip in the sciatic area, another at the

hip area, one at the very top of my leg, kinda in the groin area, one behind my

knee and another on my foot.

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

My Dr brought up the Pain Pump. I also use a 10,s unit a nd I don't

feel the Stimulator would do the trick. I now by takeing Pain Meds I

can get relife from my Pain so I think with the Pain Pump I can get

relife.

> >

> > Hello

> > My name is Kim. I have been in chronic pain since 2003. I have had

> back problems since 2000 but they got really bad in 2003. I had a

> laminectomy then and things went down hill from there. I was a massage

> therapist at the time. Needless to say, I can no longer work in that

> field. I have since been down a long road and finally found out most

of

> my problems are due to scoliosis. I had a 2 level lumbar fusion in

2006

> which did not heal. I am in pain management for sciatic type pain that

> is ongoing.

> > Right now I am on meds and having SI injections. I had the last

> injection yesterday which was a real booger. He injected a lot more

> steroid into the site and seemed to inject into several different

areas

> instead of just one, like before.

> > Yesterday, he asked a lot more questions including whether I had

> gotten an EMG done previously. I had but its been years ago. Long

story

> short, he feels my hardware is sitting on the sciatic nerve and

putting

> pressure on that SI joint keeping it inflamed.

> > He told me that we may be looking at taking out some of the hardware

> and then doing rehab or continuing the current therapy, or look at

doing

> a SCS.

> > I looked into a SCS prior to having my fusion in 06. At the time, I

> saw that the positive results were very mixed at best. I want to know

if

> that has improved. I would really like to hear from all of you as to

how

> much it has helped your sciatic pain.

> > My worst pain is down my left hip, left leg to the foot and big toe.

> My leg burns, tingles, gets numb, I limp. etc

> > Thanks I am glad to be here

> > Kim

> > Kim

> > Freelance Copywriter and Blogger

> > Articles on Suite 101

> >

>

http://ghosts-hauntings.suite101.com/article.cfm/the_haunting_of_carnton\

\

> _mansion

> >

>

http://psychic-abilities.suite101.com/article.cfm/live_online_psychic_re\

\

> adings_guide

> >

> > My Blog

> >

> > http://ghosthuntingtips101.blogspot.com/

> >

> > My articles on E-How

> > Search E-How for Kim Leach

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> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I wonder why mine did not bring this up as a viable option with the SCS I am

going to discuss this with him when I go back

Re: Introduction

My Dr brought up the Pain Pump. I also use a 10,s unit a nd I don't

feel the Stimulator would do the trick. I now by takeing Pain Meds I

can get relife from my Pain so I think with the Pain Pump I can get

relife.

> >

> > Hello

> > My name is Kim. I have been in chronic pain since 2003. I have had

> back problems since 2000 but they got really bad in 2003. I had a

> laminectomy then and things went down hill from there. I was a massage

> therapist at the time. Needless to say, I can no longer work in that

> field. I have since been down a long road and finally found out most

of

> my problems are due to scoliosis. I had a 2 level lumbar fusion in

2006

> which did not heal. I am in pain management for sciatic type pain that

> is ongoing.

> > Right now I am on meds and having SI injections. I had the last

> injection yesterday which was a real booger. He injected a lot more

> steroid into the site and seemed to inject into several different

areas

> instead of just one, like before.

> > Yesterday, he asked a lot more questions including whether I had

> gotten an EMG done previously. I had but its been years ago. Long

story

> short, he feels my hardware is sitting on the sciatic nerve and

putting

> pressure on that SI joint keeping it inflamed.

> > He told me that we may be looking at taking out some of the hardware

> and then doing rehab or continuing the current therapy, or look at

doing

> a SCS.

> > I looked into a SCS prior to having my fusion in 06. At the time, I

> saw that the positive results were very mixed at best. I want to know

if

> that has improved. I would really like to hear from all of you as to

how

> much it has helped your sciatic pain.

> > My worst pain is down my left hip, left leg to the foot and big toe.

> My leg burns, tingles, gets numb, I limp. etc

> > Thanks I am glad to be here

> > Kim

> > Kim

> > Freelance Copywriter and Blogger

> > Articles on Suite 101

> >

>

http://ghosts-hauntings.suite101.com/article.cfm/the_haunting_of_carnton\

\

> _mansion

> >

>

http://psychic-abilities.suite101.com/article.cfm/live_online_psychic_re\

\

> adings_guide

> >

> > My Blog

> >

> > http://ghosthuntingtips101.blogspot.com/

> >

> > My articles on E-How

> > Search E-How for Kim Leach

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >