Introduction

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In a message dated 2/21/2005 10:51:53 AM Central Standard Time,

gygls73@... writes:

Hello there! My name is Nina. I'm wife to Mark, mom to Tiana age 9

and Ashlee age 6 (CwDS). I am so glad I found this group. Let me

explain a bit.

HI Nina

Im a bit late reading mail, stomach virus violently ran through our house,

hitting me last uggggggggggggggggggg the pain was like labor pain and we all

know how that su*#s lol

You sound very familiar, screen name and all .............. did you ever go

to the DS AOL chats in the past? if so, Im Kathy mom to Sara now 13 heehee

Glad you are here

Kathy mom to Sara 13

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As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.

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In a message dated 2/21/2005 9:57:50 PM Central Standard Time,

JB66111@... writes:

Would you believe Kansas City was originally called Possum Trot? Sure

glad that didn't stick. I'd like Pickleville better. Jessie

ROTFLOL Sara and myself were both born in KC

Kathy mom to Sara 13

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```)¨(´´´ | | | | | | | | | ```)¨(´´´

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As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.

Josh. 24:15

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In a message dated 2/21/2005 9:57:50 PM Central Standard Time,

JB66111@... writes:

Would you believe Kansas City was originally called Possum Trot? Sure

glad that didn't stick. I'd like Pickleville better. Jessie

ROTFLOL Sara and myself were both born in KC

Kathy mom to Sara 13

¸...¸ ___/ /\ \___ ¸...¸

,·´º o`·, /__/ _/\_ \__\ ,·´º o`·,

```)¨(´´´ | | | | | | | | | ```)¨(´´´

¸,.-·²°´ ¸,.-·~·~·-.,¸ `°²·-.¸

As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.

Josh. 24:15

[Guest guest]

hi stacey!

welcome to the group!

i know that it is hard to start.... you are just going to have to force

yourself to do it at first.

you have to make the decision... make the commitment... and just do it.

it is mind over matter.

once you get going you will feel good and will want to keep doing it and it

will be easier to get motivated, so hang in there. also, make it easy for

yourself to workout... definitely make a plan!!! think about what you want

to accomplish this week and write your workouts on your calendar. make an

appointment with yourself each day, and just like you would honor an

appointment with a doctor or dentist, keep these appointments with yourself.

::everyone together now:: JUST DO IT!

:*carolyn.

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[Guest guest]

hi stacey and welcome to the group.

you should make a schedule that works for YOU. it helps with a schedule b/c its like you have an appointment with yourself to exercise. many of us try to get it in first thing in the morning, some do it after work,etc.from the looks of it you could break down your workouts with cardio or strength in the morning and more strength/toning and pilates or yoga in the night. that way your day is free to be with your kids. sounds like you have a good variety of workouts. but just speaking from experience, depending on what cathe tape you have its not a good thing for beginners. but it seems you have a good variety of instructors. hopefully its a variety of workouts (i.e. cardio, weights, toning, pilates) you find it keep your body guessing and you won't get bored. welcome to the group again

kassia

[Guest guest]

Hi, Stacey and welcome--from one of the token males in this group. :-P

Not only is it important to schedule your workouts but it's also

important to view them as necessities. Just think of food or sleep.

Would you go without either of those? Not willingly, because you need

them. Put exercise in the same category as eating and sleeping, and

you'll get over the guilt of taking time to do something that's good

for you. This might help you avoid the " I just don't have time " excuse.

Best wishes,

[Guest guest]

At 08:37 AM 3/29/2005, revaddict wrote:

>Put exercise in the same category as eating and sleeping, and

>you'll get over the guilt of taking time to do something that's good

>for you.

excellent advice paul!!

im going to add this statement to my file of motivational sayings.

thanks!

:*carolyn.

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Hi chris

Theres lots of folk here who can advise on your part of the world and

who have different vax schedules for their kids to the recomended and

are doing fine. My daughter 22 months and unvaxed, I actually want

her to get some disease but contrary to what you might hear (and what

we hear here in the uk ourselves) there's not a lot around to get.

bw

Cath

In Vaccinations , " ladobe74 " <W74@m...> wrote:

>

> Hello. I'm new to the list and thought I'd introduce myself. My

name

> is and I live in Northern California. I have a daughter that

> will be 1 year old next month and I'm trying to learn as much as I

can

> about vaccinations. She is current on vaccinations at this point.

> She's due for more next month and I'm preparing myself for an

argument

> with the doctor! I would really like to do limited vaccinations, and

> possibly no vaccinations when I learn enough to get comfortable with

> that decision. I've read 2 books on vaccinations and have done some

> reading on the internet. I'm very much looking forward to learning

> from all of the knowledgable people on this list!

>

> Chris

[Guest guest]

Subject: Re: New to LIST? Please introduce yourselves.

I'm , mom to 2 boys, Hutton, 3 1/2 with Autism Spectrum Disorder, and

on, 9 months. We live outside of Seattle, WA.

I had flu shots with both pregnancies, falling for the hype that pregnant

women should be injected with mercury even though we're supposed to avoid

eating fish because of the mercury! Hmmm. My older son had all of his

" recommended " vaccinations, and also 2 flu shots (the first one and the

" booster " at age 2. My baby had his first 6 months worth of shots before I

came out of denial and realized the mercury exposure my older son had was a

likely cause of his Autism, no matter that I'd heard hundreds of times from

drs. that there was no evidence of the link.

So, my younger son had his fetal exposure through the flu shot I had, plus I

have 4 amalgam fillings. The shots he had are supposedly mercury free, but

I definitely don't trust that. I am waiting and hoping that he will be

unaffected by my blind faith and stupid trusting of the medical mainstream!

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HI . It is very nice to " meet " you. Welcome to the group! Tim

Re: New to LIST? Please introduce yourselves.

>

>

> I'm , mom to 2 boys, Hutton, 3 1/2 with Autism Spectrum Disorder, and

> on, 9 months. We live outside of Seattle, WA.

>

> I had flu shots with both pregnancies, falling for the hype that pregnant

> women should be injected with mercury even though we're supposed to avoid

> eating fish because of the mercury! Hmmm. My older son had all of his

> " recommended " vaccinations, and also 2 flu shots (the first one and the

> " booster " at age 2. My baby had his first 6 months worth of shots before

I

> came out of denial and realized the mercury exposure my older son had was

a

> likely cause of his Autism, no matter that I'd heard hundreds of times

from

> drs. that there was no evidence of the link.

>

> So, my younger son had his fetal exposure through the flu shot I had, plus

I

> have 4 amalgam fillings. The shots he had are supposedly mercury free,

but

> I definitely don't trust that. I am waiting and hoping that he will be

> unaffected by my blind faith and stupid trusting of the medical

mainstream!

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi

How's it going mate. This is Lee O'Shea not seen or heard from you in a

while. I to have left the mob contact me on my hotmail address and we will

catch up.

Lee

>From: " chris oxley " <wolfioxley@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Introduction

>Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 13:30:10 +0000

>

>

>Hi guys,

> my name is and I am an exforces medic currently working

>offshore in the North sea district. I have been doing this since Nov last

>year after leaving the mob. I have a great interest in prehospital care and

>will always strive to better myself with courses and experiences. If you

>know pf any specialist courses I may be interested in please let me know. I

>am also interested in working in conflict areas and may follow thatb line

>in

>the future if the right kind of work is there.

>

>

>

>

>

Thankyou,

Lee O'Shea

Kbr Paramedic

Government operations logcap III

Email:leeoshea1000@...

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Mobile phone: 965-970-5083

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

If you are working on the Georgian pipeline do you have any contact

with Dr Mike McCarthy is he still there? If so please send him my

regards and ask him to drop me a line at ianjamesdenton@....

Many Thanks

Ian.

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- In , Sukhitashvili

<cnori555@y...> wrote:

>

> Hi Everybody,

>

> My name is Sukhitashvili. Some people call me Gia. I am from

Georgia. Background: Surgery, trauma, remote medicine. Since 1998

(Baku-Supsa Pipeline) working for OMS-Liberty-Medilink-Frontier.

> Personally know and worked with some British and SA medics.

> At the moment doing online course at North Sea Medical Centre. Last

year completed ALS and PHTLS courses in UK. Was looking for ACLS, but

could not find anywhere closer than SA.

> I am 53. Married with 3 children. Youngest daughter, 11 years old

lives with us.

>

> I think that's enough about my modest person.

>

> Best regards,

>

>

>

>

> Send instant messages to your online friends

http://uk.messenger.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Very good to see your name on this site. I hope you and your family are well and

had a happy Novruz with the Tblisi weather getting warmer for you all. How was

the course in Baku and did Prant get you a nice place to stay?

The boat is now in the North Sea, we had a very good transit from Mauritania

with 5 busy days in Rotterdam. I very much enjoyed working with you and everyone

on the boat sends their best regards to you.

You will enjoy this very friendly site and learn some interesting and not so

interesting things.

It will be very pleasant to work with you again sometime, take care.

Regards

.

Sukhitashvili <cnori555@...> wrote:

Hi Everybody,

My name is Sukhitashvili. Some people call me Gia. I am from Georgia.

Background: Surgery, trauma, remote medicine. Since 1998 (Baku-Supsa Pipeline)

working for OMS-Liberty-Medilink-Frontier.

Personally know and worked with some British and SA medics.

At the moment doing online course at North Sea Medical Centre. Last year

completed ALS and PHTLS courses in UK. Was looking for ACLS, but could not find

anywhere closer than SA.

I am 53. Married with 3 children. Youngest daughter, 11 years old lives with us.

I think that's enough about my modest person.

Best regards,

Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.

[Guest guest]

Thank You June!

Let me know what the good Congressman has to say, please!

Kirby

www.evidenceofharm.com

Introduction

I'm so glad this list was formed. Thanks Lenny, and a big Thank You to

Kirby for writing Evidence of Harm.

I have an eight year old granddaughter, , who is autistic. She

was

dx'd when she was three and since then, I have been involved with

finding

out about treatments that have helped others, and also trying to help by

contacting elected officials and urging them to support specific bills

for

funding research and services for these children.

Today my daughter and I met with our Congressman, Tim Bishop, to urge

him to

support HR 1297 and HR 881. He assured us he will be signing onto both

bills

and will also push for more Federal funding of Autism Research.

I think our meeting went well. I presented Congressman Bishop with a

photo

of and Kirby's book, Evidence of Harm. I want him to

remember us and the many families who struggle with autism every day.

He listened to what we had to say and I think he really cares. He also

told

us that Autism is a very hot subject right now in Washington, so to

those

who are thinking about contacting your congressman, why not call and try

to

arrange an appointment and surprise him/her with their very own copy of

Evidence of Harm!

June Guerin-Najdek

mailto:jn516@...

[Guest guest]

Hi June,

Thank you for your introduction and welcome. What part of NY are you in?

Lenny

He listened to what we had to say and I think he really cares. He also

told

> us that Autism is a very hot subject right now in Washington, so to

those

> who are thinking about contacting your congressman, why not call and

try to

> arrange an appointment and surprise him/her with their very own copy of

> Evidence of Harm!

>

> June Guerin-Najdek

> mailto:jn516@o...

[Guest guest]

Hi June,

Thank you for your introduction and welcome. What part of NY are you in?

Lenny

He listened to what we had to say and I think he really cares. He also

told

> us that Autism is a very hot subject right now in Washington, so to

those

> who are thinking about contacting your congressman, why not call and

try to

> arrange an appointment and surprise him/her with their very own copy of

> Evidence of Harm!

>

> June Guerin-Najdek

> mailto:jn516@o...

[Guest guest]

> I was so terrified and

> elated all at the same time - does that make sense?

Hi Gwen, and welcome. I understand exactly what you mean by that.

> Are there classes where we can

> learn how to do these things?

There ought to be, in my opinion. I've even contemplated organizing a

class at the Wedge or someplace similar with cooking facilities, but

that's a huge job that I don't have energy for right now.

I think most of us have taught ourselves from Nourishing Traditions,

and just muddled along as best as we can, but groups like these are a

blessing. My advice is to take things slowly. If you try to do too

much, you may become overwhelmed and give up. Start with basics of raw

dairy, and work your way into lacto-fermenting, and learn as you go.

I don't think one needs to be filthy rich to eat well. If you can

make stocks and broths, you can really stretch a good cut of meat by

adding veggies and so on. If you can learn to do canning, as I intend

to with summer's produce, more power to you! )

Reminder: our next swap is scheduled for Saturday August 6th, 2005.

Location to be announced!

~Joe

[Guest guest]

Gwen,

Welcome! I almost named one of my girls Gwen!

I also can relate to that feeling-especially about the raw milk part...I was

absolutely convinced that it made sense and was the right thing to do, but the

concept was so new to me that it scared me!

Kathy

P.S. After a few years, it's now nearing old hat status.

[Guest guest]

On Wednesday 01 June 2005 03:44 am, wrote:

> I was so terrified and elated all at the same time

Hi Gwen!

Welcome! As one mom to another, that makes perfect sense (BTW, I have 6,

ranging in age from 5yo to 17yo) and I remember reacting the same way to

reading NT! I found it hard to believe we have been (and still are being)

SO duped! I still find it hard to believe

No, there aren't classes. I suspect that most of us just found a recipe or 2

in NT that we liked and decided to try. Also, a lot of us have found

resources for getting raw dairy and any other things that are hard to find in

grocery stores. Like Joe said, start slow. Another way to start might be

learning how to cook w/out using boxes and cans of pre-processed stuff.

Where do you live? I assume not to far from the U? You would be welcome to

come to our 'country' food swap and picnic on June 17.

When you have questions, please don't hesitate to ask! We're all learning

this together!

Oster, MN

Isaiah 26:3

" I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has

risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see

everything else. "

--C. S.

[Guest guest]

Thanks ,

Yes, we do live near the U. I was actually looking at the dates for

that country swap and think that I might try to work it into our

schedule. I'm also thinking about going to the Homeopathic Class at MVV

Farm on the 18th, since that is also something I would like to get to

know more about.

Thankfully, being that my husband is a grad student and I am a SAHM, we

can't afford the boxes and cans and so have been making almost

everything from scratch for the last couple of years. But, pre that

financial revelation, I shudder at our diet!

I don't know if you know the Saint Park area at all (or any of

the rest of you) and could recommend a good source for local free range

eggs and raw milk? (although we definitely plan on making a family trip

out to MVV Farms in the near future and I am really excited about it)

Thanks for any help you can give.

Gwen

LeAnne s wrote:

> On Wednesday 01 June 2005 03:44 am, wrote:

> > I was so terrified and elated all at the same time

>

> Hi Gwen!

> Welcome! As one mom to another, that makes perfect sense (BTW, I have 6,

> ranging in age from 5yo to 17yo) and I remember reacting the same way to

> reading NT! I found it hard to believe we have been (and still are

> being)

> SO duped! I still find it hard to believe

> No, there aren't classes. I suspect that most of us just found a

> recipe or 2

> in NT that we liked and decided to try. Also, a lot of us have found

> resources for getting raw dairy and any other things that are hard to

> find in

> grocery stores. Like Joe said, start slow. Another way to start

> might be

> learning how to cook w/out using boxes and cans of pre-processed stuff.

> Where do you live? I assume not to far from the U? You would be

> welcome to

> come to our 'country' food swap and picnic on June 17.

> When you have questions, please don't hesitate to ask! We're all

> learning

> this together!

>

>

> Oster, MN

> Isaiah 26:3

> " I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has

> risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see

> everything else. "

> --C. S.

>

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> *

[Guest guest]

> I don't know if you know the Saint Park area at all (or any of

> the rest of you) and could recommend a good source for local free range

> eggs and raw milk? (although we definitely plan on making a family trip

> out to MVV Farms in the near future and I am really excited about it)

Gwen,

If it's ok with you, could you call me? I'll give you some info over the

phone. It's easier for me to be on my headset phone than on the computer....

because of needing hands for the kids.

612-522-8964

Therese

[Guest guest]

Welcome, Sharon!

> The last few months I've gained more, and I'm

> feeling terrible. I'm short of breath unless I walk slow and not for

First thing - take baby steps back to fitness. Get into an exercise routine.

There are plenty of videos out there for people who are at the bottom rung

of the fitness ladder, like Chair Dancing, Bliss or

videos for the disabled, or even more gentle stuff like slow walking, tai

chi or yoga. Start slow and increase the time a little more each week. If

you can only walk 5 minutes away from home and 5 minutes back, so be it. Do

that 3-5 times a week and the next week aim for either more days or more

time - 10 minutes instead of 5 each way. Do some strength training with

light weights - your library should be able to get any of the Strong Women

Stay ____ (Slim, Young, Strong - there are a number of them) books, or

Cruise's 8 Minutes in the Morning for Real Shapes, or even A Morning Cup of

Strength Training and do as much as you can 2 or 3 times a week.

> I also don't know where to

> start, what diet would be best.

Start by keeping a journal. Our Links section has a link to a blank journal

page you can use as an example - just print out a few and see if it's for

you. If not, make up one of your own, or just write in a marble homework pad

or a text file on your computer. Mark down everything you eat or drink, when

you take it, why (Hunger or boredom or frustration or " just because " ) and

then how you felt *after* you ate it. Do this for 2 weeks or more and you'll

see patterns emerging. If you do a lot of snacking on empty calories at

certain times, plan on buying some healthier snacks to eat then. Little

changes like that.

There were 2 messages I posted earlier today from the American Heart

Association, one announcing their new book which advocated making small

changes - eating only 25% less than you are now - and the other one was a

list of small changes to make, like eating raisins instead of cookies, diet

soda instead of full sugar, etc. Do these little things to start. Switch

from white flour products to whole grain because the added fiber fills you

up faster and they're a bit healthier. Eat more green & yellow veggies and

less meat & starches on your dinner plate. Have some soup and salad with

every dinner before the entree to fill you up more on lower calorie foods

first.

Drink more water - we're big people and need more fluids than a normal sized

one. Aim for a half ounce per pound of body weight, but start with just an

extra glass or 2 each day and work your way up. Remember to drink more when

you're hot and sweaty, too. If you wait until you're thirsty, you're already

a bit dehydrated.

As your fitness level increases, as you add more muscle, even these little

changes will make you healthier. As you're able to do more exercise, you'll

increase your metabolism, burn off more calories without making any more

dietary changes, and lose a few pounds. Remember, you're not going to lose

100 pounds any time soon. A fast weight loss on a fad diet usually means, in

98% of the cases, fast regain. Your goal will be only 1 to 2 pounds a week

with a few weeks with no loss now and then as your body readjusts itself. As

all the commercials for various diet products say, you have to change your

lifestyle, not go on another temporary diet. Right now, you're goal is to

improve your fitness level for better health. Have patience, and weight loss

will eventually follow.

Sue in NJ

[Guest guest]

Hi Sharon,

Welcome! I too have needed to lose weight for a long time. When I began I could not walk the driveway without huffing and puffing. I put a chair in a strategic location (felt stupid sometimes too, but did it anyway) and walked the driveway. When I could do it without the chair 5 times I moved to walking a bit further: half a block. That meant I walked a whole block (half there half back). By then I was able to join the YMCA and that opened new horizons. I walk the pool for an hour and that really got me going. I can now walk on a treadmill for half an hour at a time. I also use the weight room. But it all started with walking the driveway and beginning slow and keeping steady at it.

take care,

cb "S.K. S.G." <whimsicalscribe@...> wrote:

Hi. My name is Sharon. I'm 50 years old, the mom to four wonderfulkids, and married to my best friend for 30 years.I have well over 100 pounds to lose. I've needed to loss excess weightfor a long time, and I've tried a few diets, but I'd lose a few poundsand then gain them back. The last few months I've gained more, and I'mfeeling terrible. I'm short of breath unless I walk slow and not forlong distances. I can't talk and walk at the same time because I don'thave the breath for both. I know that will get better if I can loss alot of weight. My joints will also thank me. I have arthritis in mostof my joints, but what bothers me the most is the arthritis in myknees, hips, and my spine.I'm feeling miserable with the way I am. I don't like how I look and Idon't like how I feel. I need to lose the extra weight because ofhealth

issues, and I have the desire. I just don't know if I have thewillpower to resist the food urges I get. I also don't know where tostart, what diet would be best. I'm hoping hearing from others "in thesame boat" will help keep me going.Sharonwhimsicalscribe@...100-Plus Files page 100-plus/files100-Plus Links page 100-plus/links

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[Guest guest]

Welcome, Sharon!>

Hi. My name is Sharon. I'm 50 years old, the mom to four wonderful

> kids, and married to my best friend for 30 years.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<,

I'm 58 years old. That's extremely great to be married to your best

friend and to be mom to four kids!!!

>

> I'm feeling miserable with the way I am. I don't like how I look and I

> don't like how I feel. I need to lose the extra weight because of

> health issues, and I have the desire. I just don't know if I have the

> willpower to resist the food urges I get. I also don't know where to

> start, what diet would be best. I'm hoping hearing from others " in the

> same boat " will help keep me going.

Sorry you feel so miserable; Just remember you joined this group.

That's a very positive step. perhaps reading posts will help you choose

a food plan; It does feel really good sharing with people who

understand what you are dealing with.

>

Welcome again.

Faye from somerville, MA

[Guest guest]

Hi Sharon , here and I am right there in that boat with you. I

also am new to the group but so far they all seem to be nice and

supportive.

>>> whimsicalscribe@... 6/9/2005 4:22:29 PM >>>

Hi. My name is Sharon. I'm 50 years old, the mom to four wonderful

kids, and married to my best friend for 30 years.

I have well over 100 pounds to lose. I've needed to loss excess weight

for a long time, and I've tried a few diets, but I'd lose a few pounds

and then gain them back. The last few months I've gained more, and I'm

feeling terrible. I'm short of breath unless I walk slow and not for

long distances. I can't talk and walk at the same time because I don't

have the breath for both. I know that will get better if I can loss a

lot of weight. My joints will also thank me. I have arthritis in most

of my joints, but what bothers me the most is the arthritis in my

knees, hips, and my spine.

I'm feeling miserable with the way I am. I don't like how I look and I

don't like how I feel. I need to lose the extra weight because of

health issues, and I have the desire. I just don't know if I have the

willpower to resist the food urges I get. I also don't know where to

start, what diet would be best. I'm hoping hearing from others " in the

same boat " will help keep me going.

Sharon

whimsicalscribe@...

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