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Having had shingles that wrapped around my waist, I can testify they are

excruciatingly painful. It was explained to me that shingles are a herpes

virus that are dormant in the body. For example; They are passed through the

bruised skin of a child when you kiss the spot to make it better. They are

passed from kissing goodnight if you have a cold sore (another herpes virus}

They are measles and chicken pox. Everyone alive may have these dormant

viruses that are awakened under extreme stress. That means mental, emotional

and physical stress. Either can trigger the virus from what I was told.

Mine didn't form a complete ring. There was an inch between them. But it

lasted for 6 weeks. I had blisters so painful sleeping was impossible unless

I was in a tub with oatmeal added. It was still painful, but the smallest

relief was enough. I didn't know then, what I know now.

I recommend subtle energy formulae for the virus, the pain, and the stress

related problems. It still takes time but so far it's the best remedy I have

witnessed. You use these formulae in addition to what you're using now, but

the results will be quicker. They do not interfere with anything you are

using; they enhance what you are doing.

Let me know if you want to try them and I'll give you the information to

order them.

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Shingles is the adult form of herpes zoster, chicken pox. I don't know the

symptoms.

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> Can someone please tell me what shingles are, and what the symptoms are?

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Hi Bonnie,

Sorry to hear about your Dad. I just recently had

shingles and it was awful! I caught it too late to get

anything for it but pain pills : ( So I had to rely on

my own wits. I went to a local apothecary and they

made me up something for it, but you should be able

make it yourself. All they did was take alcohol and

dissolve aspirin in it. The alcohol provides a cool

feeling to the sores which relieves the itch, and it

helps dry them out so they heal quicker. The aspirin

penetrates into the skin and helps the pain. I applied

this a few times a day and it got me through.

I hope this helps him!

~

--- bonnieg <bonnieg@...> wrote:

> Hi all.....had a question....

>

> Just found out that my dad has shingles? l have

> heard of them but not

> really sure how it is caused or why......but very

> curious to know if anyone

> out there would have any idea if l could maybe make

> some mild soap (only

> know M & P) or what kinds of additives would perhaps

> soothe the rash he

> has.....he is in a great deal of pain, the doctor

> has given him some

> antibiotics (forgive the spelling) Any help would be

> greatly

> appreciated................thanks in

> advance.....Bonnie

>

>

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>Is shingles and CFS related in any way

Shingles is a result of the reactivation of the herpes virus that causes

chicken pox. Persons with CFS often have immune problems that let viruses

run amok.

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> Hi List Members, my friends mother has shingles and is in her mid

> 60's, she was so bad for little over a week they thought she may not

> make it. But she has gotton a little better. My friends has seen

> how much better my health has gotton after being on this list and

> just reading all that every one has to say, so she wants to try and

> get her mothers health better with my(really your help). We do not

> have access to HOBT or ozone, so all other suggestions will be

> greatly appricated. Thanks bernice :-) always smiling

First, Ban roll-on to dry up the lesions. Then Desitin (zinc oxide) is

good.

Monolauric acid and selenium suppress viruses. Vitamin C and L-lysine are

old favorites. All this results in a quick cure. Monolauric acid is a

must.

JP

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Dear Bernice,

Shingles is a variety of herpes.

Get her on Homozon and H2O2 baths.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

Shingles

> Hi List Members, my friends mother has shingles and is in her mid

> 60's, she was so bad for little over a week they thought she may not

> make it. But she has gotton a little better. My friends has seen

> how much better my health has gotton after being on this list and

> just reading all that every one has to say, so she wants to try and

> get her mothers health better with my(really your help). We do not

> have access to HOBT or ozone, so all other suggestions will be

> greatly appricated. Thanks bernice :-) always smiling

>

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M & B wrote:

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> Hi List Members, my friends mother has shingles and is in her mid

> 60's, she was so bad for little over a week they thought she may not

Bernice,

I suggest you or your friend do a websearch for Larreastat (I *think*

I've got that spelled right). It's from creosote herb and is supposed to

be wonderful for all forms of herpes infections. I've seen it for sale

somewhere on the web in the past, can't remember where, sorry.

Best of luck to her in this painful condition!

Sharon

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Hello All,

found this site

http://www.mikebrownsolutions.com/larrea.htm

LARREASTATâ„¢

Larreastat is a highly concentrated, purified solubilized extract of

essential compounds from the desert plant Larrea tridenta.

LARREASTAT contains an abundance of natural antioxidants, flavonoids and

lignans.

Larrea has had a long history of use in folk medicine. LARREASTAT has

exhibited remarkable biological activities in the laboratory and clinical

studies. Larrea is one of the longest-lived plants on earth with some

currently living plants dating back to the time of the Sphinx and the

Egyptian pyramids, over 12,000 years ago. This plant produces an array of

chemicals that provide it protection against viruses, bacteria, fungi,

insects, rodents, and more.

Larrea tridenta is harvested from wild, native stands of the plant growing

in pristine Arizona. Dennis , Ph.D. (botany), has formulated this

powerful herb into capsules and ointment for use as an antiviral agent and

cellular enhancer. If you would like to experiment (we make no claims):

Read the booklet, Treating Herpes Naturally by Dennis , Ph.D. -- $5.00

Larreastatâ„¢ is available as follows:

3 oz. ointment -- $15.00

60 capsules -- $25.00

Use www.google.com search engine to find other sources

Mike Slivinski

M & B wrote:

>

> Hi List Members, my friends mother has shingles and is in her mid

> 60's, she was so bad for little over a week they thought she may not

Bernice,

I suggest you or your friend do a websearch for Larreastat (I *think*

I've got that spelled right). It's from creosote herb and is supposed to

be wonderful for all forms of herpes infections. I've seen it for sale

somewhere on the web in the past, can't remember where, sorry.

Best of luck to her in this painful condition!

Sharon

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Dear ,

Hope the claims for the product aren't as stretched as the date for the

Sphinx and Pyramids!

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

Re: Shingles

Hello All,

found this site

http://www.mikebrownsolutions.com/larrea.htm

LARREASTATT

Larreastat is a highly concentrated, purified solubilized extract of

essential compounds from the desert plant Larrea tridenta.

LARREASTAT contains an abundance of natural antioxidants, flavonoids and

lignans.

Larrea has had a long history of use in folk medicine. LARREASTAT has

exhibited remarkable biological activities in the laboratory and clinical

studies. Larrea is one of the longest-lived plants on earth with some

currently living plants dating back to the time of the Sphinx and the

Egyptian pyramids, over 12,000 years ago. This plant produces an array of

chemicals that provide it protection against viruses, bacteria, fungi,

insects, rodents, and more.

Larrea tridenta is harvested from wild, native stands of the plant growing

in pristine Arizona. Dennis , Ph.D. (botany), has formulated this

powerful herb into capsules and ointment for use as an antiviral agent and

cellular enhancer. If you would like to experiment (we make no claims):

Read the booklet, Treating Herpes Naturally by Dennis , Ph.D. -- $5.00

LarreastatT is available as follows:

3 oz. ointment -- $15.00

60 capsules -- $25.00

Use www.google.com search engine to find other sources

Mike Slivinski

M & B wrote:

>

> Hi List Members, my friends mother has shingles and is in her mid

> 60's, she was so bad for little over a week they thought she may not

Bernice,

I suggest you or your friend do a websearch for Larreastat (I *think*

I've got that spelled right). It's from creosote herb and is supposed to

be wonderful for all forms of herpes infections. I've seen it for sale

somewhere on the web in the past, can't remember where, sorry.

Best of luck to her in this painful condition!

Sharon

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Hi Bernice;

<<We do not

have access to HOBT or ozone, so all other suggestions will be

greatly appricated. Thanks bernice :-) always smiling>>

Ozone steam boothing like Saul suggested. If she can't afford that, a Beck

magnetic pulser should kill the virus hiding out in along her spinal area.

Don't rule out blood electrification, colloidal silver and drinking ozonated

water.

www./group/ is a good list for

electromedicine

More information can be seen at www.excel.net~jaguar , a commercial site

with all the details.

ciao

Duncan

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In a message dated 11/10/2000 5:21:42 PM Central Standard Time,

duncancrow@... writes:

<< More information can be seen at www.excel.net~jaguar , a commercial site

with all the details.

ciao

Duncan >>

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At 09:03 AM 2/11/01 +0000, you wrote:

>Does anyone have something that they can recomend that helps to

>remove/lighten scars? I want to make something that helps erase the scars on

>my leg caused by shingles. Please note that I do not use animal ingreadiants

>such as lard or lanolin. Milk, honey, eggs are ok though.

I don't know whether it will help with scars left from Shingles... but the

BEST thing I have ever seen for healing/fading surgical scars is

Helichrysum Italicuum diluted in Rose Hip Seed oil... just a tiny tiny

bit applied to the scar several times a day.

>Also does anyone have a salve that helps with shingles/blisters? I have an

>outbreak right now! -=/

Ravensara aromatica, in a base of Foraha (callophyllum innophyllum) is THE

specific for Shingles, from an aromatherapy perspective.

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According to one of my doctors, if you have been diagnosed with

shingles, you should also be tested for Lyme disease (Western Blot

blood test after a day or two of appropriate antibiotic therapy). I

am not sure if the shingles often look like a Lyme rash, or if the

Herpes virus is more prevalent when Lyme bacteria are attacking the

body. Lyme is very undiagnosed in most parts of the U.S., due to

physician ignorance (most doctors seem to think that it is only in

the northeast U.S., which is untrue). Left untreated, Lyme can cause

severe joint pain, heart problems, fatigue, and mild to severe

psychological and/or nervous system problems, ranging from depression

to panic disorder, manic-depression, palsy, muscular dystrophy and

Alzheimer's like symptoms. It can also cause birth defects and

miscarriage. It can remain in the body for decades without any

severe symptoms, if not found and treated in the initial stages, and

attack the body years later. For more information go to:

http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Oasis/6455/lyme-links.html

HTH, Bev

> >Does anyone have something that they can recomend that helps to

> >remove/lighten scars? I want to make something that helps erase

the scars on my leg caused by shingles...

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In a message dated 02/13/2001 2:10:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Christelti@... writes:

<<

OOOPS, I forgot to change the subject line, sorry

<< A friend of mine has shingles. She is an older oerson, 73, and has

suffered

with this since DEC,

Does anyone on this list know what to do about this?

Christel >>

>>

BHT is a preservative agent that can be bought at any health food store. Many

claim it is good for viral infections.

There is an herbal extract called Larrea (an extract of Chapparal) that is

supposedly getting good results when applied as a cream or taking orally and

the results occur quickly (you can find it easly on the net by doing a search

on Larrea and Herpes).

Over the counter Tagamet taken 200mgs 3 times a day then 400 mgs before bed

time will usually get great results in a week or so. Tagamet is not natural I

know but it is very low on the toxicity scale. Alot of cancer and AIDS

patients are told to take it because it strengthens the immune system.

The amino acid Lysine in capsules and cream has help people with herpes

infections (shingles is a herpes zoster strain).

And last but not least I have had great success with my clients with the

following homeopathic remedies...... Rhus Tox 30c or 200c..... Natrum

Muriaticum 30c or 200c and finally Arsenicum Album 30c or 200c. If the client

is elderly and in poor health do NOT give anything above a 30c in homeopathy

unless a trained homeopath has taken her case and recommends it.

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Try cupping with ozone over the affected area

Regards,

Noel.

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Phone 61 03 9639 6090 Fax 61 03 9639 6392

Email noelc@... Web http://www.smile.org.au

Shingles

OOOPS, I forgot to change the subject line, sorry

<< A friend of mine has shingles. She is an older oerson, 73, and has

suffered

with this since DEC,

Does anyone on this list know what to do about this?

Christel >>

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Actually that condition was mentioned last night at a meeting for the 4-life

product series, and a person mentioned the skin product TF renewal was used

effectively on shingles, It apparently worked in about 3 days. I have also

had a great deal of success using transfer factor plus on many chronic

illnesses, and find it to be a great adjunct to oxidative therapies in that

it also provides the immune system with information it can retain in the

event it encounters the same antigen in the future.

Their website is www.transferfactor.com and www.4-life.com and the following

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thanks, and hope your friend does well. My mom, who is the same age, used to

get that a while back and it appears to be very painful.

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OOOPS, I forgot to change the subject line, sorry

<< A friend of mine has shingles. She is an older oerson, 73, and has

suffered

with this since DEC,

Does anyone on this list know what to do about this?

Christel >>

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donna i have heard that the best eo for shingles is ravensaria

aromatica which you can get at http://www.natuesgate.com someone else

told me that they make a tea or infuesion out of comfrey and lemon balm

and bathes the affected area they have good info at natures gate on

different skin conditions and which products and eo's to use i suggest

you check there first goodluck dolores

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Hi there,

My grandma has had it for a year and a half, first the shingles then post

herpatic neuralgia, unfortunately not much seems to help at all, i have read

numerous newsgroups etc.. and there is no wonder cure, one thing that

apparently works is capsacian cream, you can get it at a health food store,

but my grandma could not tolerate the burning it can cause.... if you find

something in your travels please let me know, it seems to be one thing that

is almost impossible to get relief from.

> Hi Listmembers,

>

> This is my first post and I am hoping someone can give me some

> suggestions. I have a cousin that has Shingles and nothing has helped

> her that the doctor have prescribed. I am hoping I can make something

> that will give her some relief.

>

> Thanks in advance for your help.

>

> Donna mailto:schooly@...

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> This is my first post and I am hoping someone can give me some

> suggestions. I have a cousin that has Shingles and nothing has helped

> her that the doctor have prescribed. I am hoping I can make something

> that will give her some relief.

Hi Donna;

About 4 years ago I got a bad case of shingles and the pain in my shoulder

was way into three to four months. I couldn't even lift up my arm to get a

tray of ice from the fridge.

A friend of mine does Reiki. He gave me one Reiki treatment, and the next

morning my pain was gone, and it hasn't come back. So you might have her

have a Reiki treatment.

Blessings:

Raven

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I have had shingles and the post herpetic neuralgia for about 2 years now.

When I have an extremely painful attact the only thing that helps is PAIN

PILLS, PAIN PILLS.

> My grandma has had it for a year and a half, first the shingles then post

> herpetic neuralgia, unfortunately not much seems to help at all, i have read

>

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You might consider testing for Lyme disease. It is all across the

country, except for 4 states. It is quite serious. Go to

www.lyme.org to find a knowledgeable doctor. HTH, Bev

> Hi Listmembers,

>

> This is my first post and I am hoping someone can give me some

> suggestions. I have a cousin that has Shingles and nothing has

helped

> her that the doctor have prescribed

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I too would suggest a Reiki treatment. Reiki is universal life energy. I

had been in pain for 6 years when I had my first Reiki treatment. When the

treatment was done I was pain free!! I decided to take the Reiki I and

Reiki II classes so that I could give myself Reiki treatments just to make

sure that I could keep the pain at bay. I have been pain free ever

since! It has even helped my depression considerably, reduced my stress

level, AND, I am also losing weight!

- Donna

Go to your destiny!

At 06:03 PM 3/10/2001 -0800, you wrote:

> > This is my first post and I am hoping someone can give me some

> > suggestions. I have a cousin that has Shingles and nothing has helped

> > her that the doctor have prescribed. I am hoping I can make something

> > that will give her some relief.

>Hi Donna;

>About 4 years ago I got a bad case of shingles and the pain in my shoulder

>was way into three to four months. I couldn't even lift up my arm to get a

>tray of ice from the fridge.

>A friend of mine does Reiki. He gave me one Reiki treatment, and the next

>morning my pain was gone, and it hasn't come back. So you might have her

>have a Reiki treatment.

>Blessings:

>Raven

>

>

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> http://www.natuesgate.com

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