Guest guest Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Hi all, Is there ONE test I can get done through Genova that covers checking all the nutrients related to thyroid and adrenals etc, ie) all the ones on the list - Vit D, copper, B12, iron etc basically all the ones that Sheila suggests getting done. There's no way I can get my GP to agree to this so I have to do it privately but only want to do ONE test not a whole heap!!! Thanks Hannah PS I had a NutrEval done through Genova about a year and a half ago - would this be worth anything now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Sorry Hannah, no - there is not. Why is your GP refusing to give you these tests? I would write a letter asking this question and ask her to give her answer and reasons in writing. Add in with your letter a copy of just some of the references to the research and studies that have been done to show her the reason why there is a connection between these low levels and low thyroid. Low iron/ferritin: Iron deficiency is shown to significantly reduce T4 to T3 conversion, increase reverse T3 levels, and block the thermogenic (metabolism boosting) properties of thyroid hormone (1-4). Thus, iron deficiency, as indicated by an iron saturation below 25 or a ferritin below 70, will result in diminished intracellular T3 levels. Additionally, T4 should not be considered adequate thyroid replacement if iron deficiency is present (1-4)). 1. Dillman E, Gale C, Green W, et al. Hypothermia in iron deficiency due to altered triiodithyroidine metabolism. Regulatory, Integrative and Comparative Physiology 1980;239(5):377-R381. 2. SM, PE, Lukaski HC. In vitro hepatic thyroid hormone deiodination in iron-deficient rats: effect of dietary fat. Life Sci 1993;53(8):603-9. 3. Zimmermann MB, Köhrle J. The Impact of Iron and Selenium Deficiencies on Iodine and Thyroid Metabolism: Biochemistry and Relevance to Public Health. Thyroid 2002;12(10): 867-78. 4. Beard J, tobin B, Green W. Evidence for Thyroid Hormone Deficiency in Iron-Deficient Anemic Rats. J. Nutr. 1989;119:772-778. Low vitamin B12: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18655403 Low vitamin D3: http://www.eje-online.org/cgi/content/abstract/113/3/329 and http://www.goodhormonehealth.com/VitaminD.pdf Low magnesium: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC292768/pdf/jcinvest00264-0105.pdf Low folate: http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/content/full/47/9/1738 and http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/thy.1999.9.1163 Low copper http://www.ithyroid.com/copper.htm http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/copper_toxicity_syndrome.htm http://www.ithyroid.com/copper.htm http://www.rjpbcs.com/pdf/2011_2(2)/68.pdf http://ajplegacy.physiology.org/content/171/3/652.extract Low zinc:http://www.istanbul.edu.tr/ffdbiyo/current4/07%20Iham%20AM%C4%B0R.pdf and http://articles.webraydian.com/article1648-Role_of_Zinc_and_Copper_in_Effective_Thyroid_Function.html Ferritin levels for women need to be between 70 and 90 (for men around between 150 and 170) Vitamin B12 needs to be at the top of the range. D3 levels need to be about 50. Magnesium levels need to be at the top of the range, it's one thing that gets missed a great deal. Your potassium and mag need to be at the top. Hi all, Is there ONE test I can get done through Genova that covers checking all the nutrients related to thyroid and adrenals etc, ie) all the ones on the list - Vit D, copper, B12, iron etc basically all the ones that Sheila suggests getting done. There's no way I can get my GP to agree to this so I have to do it privately but only want to do ONE test not a whole heap!!! Thanks Hannah _,_._,___ 1 of 1 File(s) MINERALS AND VIT. TESTING.doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Can you please help us Sheila? We need to know what the last sentence below (extract from your posting) means ? When it says " Additionally, T4 should not be considered adequate thyroid replacement..... " My wife is having great trouble with the taking of Iron on T4 alone. What else has to be used ? Please help to answer this question. regards PeteD > > Sorry Hannah, no - there is not. Why is your GP refusing to give you these > tests? > > Low iron/ferritin: Iron deficiency is shown to significantly reduce T4 to T3 Additionally, T4 > should not be considered adequate thyroid replacement if iron deficiency is present (1-4)). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 Sheila may be referring to the fact that low ferritin levels are one of the factors that impede the effectiveness of levothyroxine.There is a document in the files which explains all this.D From: peter.dor3ey <peter.dor3ey@...> thyroid treatment Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011, 6:43 Subject: Re: Checking for nutrient.... Can you please help us Sheila? We need to know what the last sentence below (extract from your posting) means ? When it says "Additionally, T4 should not be considered adequate thyroid replacement....." My wife is having great trouble with the taking of Iron on T4 alone. What else has to be used ? Please help to answer this question. regards PeteD > > Sorry Hannah, no - there is not. Why is your GP refusing to give you these > tests? > > Low iron/ferritin: Iron deficiency is shown to significantly reduce T4 to T3 Additionally, T4 > should not be considered adequate thyroid replacement if iron deficiency is present (1-4)). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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