Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 What happens if your don't take salt with iodine? Does it just slow the detoxing, and if so, what kind of symptoms would one incur withOUT taking any increased salt other than typically on food? Than you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Hi Tricia, Salt helps move bromide out of the body and lessens your detox symptoms. If I get a dull headache drinking salt water relieves it quickly. I feel better drinking salt daily. Here's a link to possible detox symptoms http://breastcancerchoices.org/bromidedetoxsymptomsandstrategies.html Lil > > What happens if your don't take salt with iodine? Does it just slow the detoxing, and if so, what kind of symptoms would one incur withOUT taking any increased salt other than typically on food? Than you. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Hello, is there a reason you would not want to take unrefined Celtic Sea Salt and the other companion nutrients while taking iodine? Everything on the Iodine Protocol is recommended for a reason to support your health. Best, Kathleen Iodine & Salt? What happens if your don't take salt with iodine? Does it just slow the detoxing, and if so, what kind of symptoms would one incur withOUT taking any increased salt other than typically on food? Than you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 I just met a woman that cannot have any type of salt,even Himalayan,as she gets a very rapid heart beating from salt.Question:My husband and children are not supplementing with iodine.Would they too benefit from extra sea salt due to the minerals and would sea salt help them detox bromine without supplementing with iodine? All the best to you allEstairOn Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Kathleen Blake <kathleenblake@...> wrote: Hello, is there a reason you would not want to take unrefined Celtic Sea Salt and the other companion nutrients while taking iodine? Everything on the Iodine Protocol is recommended for a reason to support your health. Best, Kathleen Iodine & Salt? What happens if your don't take salt with iodine? Does it just slow the detoxing, and if so, what kind of symptoms would one incur withOUT taking any increased salt other than typically on food? Than you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Salt does not cause a detox. It is the iodine knocking bromide off the iodine receptors that causes it to enter the blood stream. The salt then assists in carrying it out through the kidneys for elimination. Salt is beneficial for health in other ways so it is good to use it liberally but not for detoxing. Buist, ND HC Iodine & Salt? What happens if your don't take salt with iodine? Does it just slow the detoxing, and if so, what kind of symptoms would one incur withOUT taking any increased salt other than typically on food? Than you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 I am curious about your comments as past and current medical papers state that IV saline is the standard treatment for bromine toxicity, which indicates that salt would push out bromides even without the assistance of iodine. Please note (especially newcomers) that I am not in any way challenging the need for iodine, it's vast and important role in the body, the need for it to be available to the receptors, or the importance of the iodine protocol. I am solidly in support of the protocol and the research. Also understanding that most of us do not have the level of bromine toxicity that would require an IV to treat it. This is just an inquiry for clarification and an opportunity to learn more.In a past message I posted:I have read in many places that it is not uncommon for physicians to administerIV saline for documented bromide toxicity...One site states: "Treatment for bromide toxicity is intravenous NaCl (normalsaline) with or without diuretics until plasma bromide levels fall below 50mg/dL. At that point, administration may be oral NaCl tablets, until thebromide is cleared from the body."Here is an interesting September 2009 article from the Journal of MedicalToxicology titled "Case Files of the Medical Toxicology Fellowship at the NewYork City Poison Control: Bromism:: Forgotten, but Not Gone" : http://www.springerlink.com/content/2w36339j416h5u58/Another case from China during 2008 in which IV saline was used: http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15563650802020361Also this information: "While the usual half-life of bromide (the time forhalf the body's complement of bromide to be eliminated) is 12 to 14 days(Horowitz, 1997), a half-life of 65 hours has been calculated with salineloading. Cases failing to respond to saline loading have been successfullytreated with mannitol or "loop" diuretics (a type of diuretic, orwater-excretion enhancing agent, that acts on a specific part of the kidney),and one report calculated a half-life of 1.65 hours with "diuresis," using theagents mannitol and ethacrynic acid (Horowitz, 1997)." Source: http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/library/randrep/pb_paper/mr1018.2.chap10.html--- In iodine , "ladybugsandbees" <ladybugsandbees@...> wrote:>> Salt does not cause a detox. It is the iodine knocking bromide off the iodine receptors that causes it to enter the blood stream. The salt then assists in carrying it out through the kidneys for elimination. Salt is beneficial for health in other ways so it is good to use it liberally but not for detoxing.> > Buist, ND HC> > > Iodine & Salt?> > > > What happens if your don't take salt with iodine? Does it just slow the detoxing, and if so, what kind of symptoms would one incur withOUT taking any increased salt other than typically on food? Than you.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Your husband and children also need iodine and should be supplementing with iodine. THey too will enjoy better health because of the unrefined salt in their diets. No refined salt should be used at all, ever, by anyone. The closer you can get your diet to that ideal, the better. -- On 31 Aug 2011 at 16:38, Estair Kaufman wrote: > > > > I just met a woman that cannot have any type of salt,even Himalayan,as > she gets a very rapid heart beating from salt. Question:My husband and > children are not supplementing with iodine.Would they too benefit from > extra sea salt due to the minerals and would sea salt help them detox > bromine without supplementing with iodine? All the best to you all > Estair > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Kathleen Blake > <kathleenblake@...> wrote: > > Hello, is there a reason you would not want to take unrefined Celtic > Sea Salt and the other companion nutrients while taking iodine? > Everything on the Iodine Protocol is recommended for a reason to > support your health. Best, Kathleen > Iodine & Salt? > > > What happens if your don't take salt with iodine? Does it just slow > the detoxing, and if so, what kind of symptoms would one incur withOUT > taking any increased salt other than typically on food? Than you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3869 - Release Date: > 08/31/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 The saline only works for bromide poisoning under conditions where the bromide is circulating freely in the body. This is equivalent to what happens when the iodine kicks the bromides off the cell receptors and then the bromides are circulating freely (which is what causes the detox symptoms), at which point the unrefined salt helps the body wash the bromides out of the body. But the salt (or saline solution) does not have the capacity to kick the bromides off the cell receptors. To recap-- the symptoms of " bromide poisoning " are the same symptoms as " bromide detox " related to the iodine protocol. They refer to free-circulating bromides. -- > I am curious about your comments as past and current medical papers > state that IV saline is the standard treatment for bromine toxicity, > which indicates that salt would push out bromides even without the > assistance of iodine. > > Please note (especially newcomers) that I am not in any way > challenging the need for iodine, it's vast and important role in the > body, the need for it to be available to the receptors, or the > importance of the iodine protocol. I am solidly in support of the > protocol and the research. Also understanding that most of us do not > have the level of bromine toxicity that would require an IV to treat > it. This is just an inquiry for clarification and an opportunity to > learn more. > > In a past message I posted: > > I have read in many places that it is not uncommon for physicians to > administer IV saline for documented bromide toxicity... > > One site states: " Treatment for bromide toxicity is intravenous NaCl > (normal saline) with or without diuretics until plasma bromide levels > fall below 50 mg/dL. At that point, administration may be oral NaCl > tablets, until the bromide is cleared from the body. " > > Here is an interesting September 2009 article from the Journal of > Medical Toxicology titled " Case Files of the Medical Toxicology > Fellowship at the New York City Poison Control: Bromism:: Forgotten, > but Not Gone " : http://www.springerlink.com/content/2w36339j416h5u58/ > > Another case from China during 2008 in which IV saline was used: > http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15563650802020361 > > Also this information: " While the usual half-life of bromide (the time > for half the body's complement of bromide to be eliminated) is 12 to > 14 days (Horowitz, 1997), a half-life of 65 hours has been calculated > with saline loading. Cases failing to respond to saline loading have > been successfully treated with mannitol or " loop " diuretics (a type of > diuretic, or water-excretion enhancing agent, that acts on a specific > part of the kidney), and one report calculated a half-life of 1.65 > hours with " diuresis, " using the agents mannitol and ethacrynic acid > (Horowitz, 1997). " Source: > http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/library/randrep/pb_paper/mr1018.2.chap10.h > tml > > > > > > > Hello, is there a reason you would not want to take unrefined > Celtic Sea Salt and the other companion nutrients while taking iodine? > Everything on the Iodine Protocol is recommended for a reason to > support your health. Best, Kathleen > Iodine & Salt? > > > > What > happens if your don't take salt with iodine? Does it just slow the > detoxing, and if so, what kind of symptoms would one incur withOUT > taking any increased salt other than typically on food? Than you. > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3870 - Release Date: > 09/01/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 Thanks , Does the following recap correctly? Salt (or saline solution) does push out (detox) bromides that are circulating freely in the body and can affect considerable benefit. However iodine pushes out (detoxes) bromides that are on the cell receptors that the salt cannot get to, and once the iodine has pushed out those bromides the salt will then continue to assist pushing out (detox) the bromide from the body that came from the cell receptors. In essence, only iodine can affect (detox) the cell receptors but both are used to effectively push (detox) the bromide out of the body. This is helping to clarify & would appreciate a research document to look at if you have a link. > > > > > > Hello, is there a reason you would not want to take unrefined > > Celtic Sea Salt and the other companion nutrients while taking iodine? > > Everything on the Iodine Protocol is recommended for a reason to > > support your health. Best, Kathleen > Iodine & Salt? > > > > What > > happens if your don't take salt with iodine? Does it just slow the > > detoxing, and if so, what kind of symptoms would one incur withOUT > > taking any increased salt other than typically on food? Than you. > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3870 - Release Date: > > 09/01/11 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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