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I am very angry about the Spam. I have written to egroups twice and you have

to pay them to get it taken off!! If we all protest maybe something can be

done. I know a lot of other people on my other groups are angry about it as

well.

Take care,

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Not only that, but I have a small monitor (15 inch) and I often use my

Netzero account when I can't access otherwise. By the time I get everyone's

ads on my screen, it only leaves space for about 3 lines of e-mail text.

I have to KEEP scrolling in order to read.

--

Marcelle Karustis

mkarustis@... - email

(973) 776-3900 x7867 - voicemail/fax

---- Cramer <cramerj@...> wrote:

>

> Hi everyone,

> Is anyone as PO'd as me on the new format at egroups

> that puts their SPAM at the top of each message?

> I hate it!! It makes it much more difficult to read the

> messages, in that I have to scroll down to it now.

>

> Please blast them, as did I a couple of nights ago.

>

> Blessings to all,

>

>

>

>

>

>

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It is free this way.

No one read bottom ads.

Commercial TV has ads...public TV relies on donations.

Listserves these days are like that.

Ads in your face,

or volunteer to cough up $5 a month and the ads disappear.

Some listowners do that...

but then THEY are usually selling something (with exceptions, of course).

as usual, TANSTAFL.....PYMWYMI, and all....

I hate top ads, but spamming the free listservers with complaints

(positive suggestions might be good)

likely just cuts down on free listservers.

" Ad-free " newsgroups contain and generate way more SPAM, IMO.....

Joanie

(who is much more irritated with the unsolicited mail with really

distasteful sexual content

I get from newsgroup and ICQ participation)

>Hi everyone,

>Is anyone as PO'd as me on the new format at egroups

>that puts their SPAM at the top of each message?

>I hate it!! It makes it much more difficult to read the

>messages, in that I have to scroll down to it now.

>

>Please blast them, as did I a couple of nights ago.

>

>Blessings to all,

>

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Bad enough to have spam mail on the top. Guess what is worse? I have

not received mail about that yet but my hudsband has. Apparently,

has bought egroups. They came down with a policy that they have the

right to anything posted on egroups by anyone. In other words, when we

share recipes among our group, the recipes automatically beome 's

property.

That's what my interpretation of their policy is anyway. Does anybody

have a different understanding on the issue, or suggestion on how to

deal with it?

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May Ip(mayip@...)---------------------------Secretary

Teledynamics Communications Inc.-------http://www.teledyn.com

Seven Forest Place RR1 Sauble Beach Ontario Canada N0H 2G0

Tel(519)4221150-------------------------------Fax(519)4222723

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I disagree. In other media, say for example... television... I see the

TV show for a few minutes then I see the commercials. On line, which

I am already paying for, I see a banner for my ISP at the top of the

screen, then I see a banner for the co. that provides my e-mail address.

Then I see a banner for e-groups. Now, where does that leave room for

what I paid for??? I want to see my mail!!! Instead, I am getting ads

built on top of ads at the expense of what I am paying for. If this

keeps up, there will be no room left for my mail soon!

--

Marcelle Karustis

mkarustis@... - email

(973) 776-3900 x7867 - voicemail/fax

---- " Joanie MacPhee " <macphee@...> wrote:

>

> It is free this way.

> No one read bottom ads.

> Commercial TV has ads...public TV relies on donations.

> Listserves these days are like that.

> Ads in your face,

> or volunteer to cough up $5 a month and the ads disappear.

> Some listowners do that...

> but then THEY are usually selling something (with exceptions, of course).

> as usual, TANSTAFL.....PYMWYMI, and all....

> I hate top ads, but spamming the free listservers with complaints

> (positive suggestions might be good)

> likely just cuts down on free listservers.

> " Ad-free " newsgroups contain and generate way more SPAM, IMO.....

> Joanie

> (who is much more irritated with the unsolicited mail with really

> distasteful sexual content

> I get from newsgroup and ICQ participation)

>

>

> >Hi everyone,

> >Is anyone as PO'd as me on the new format at egroups

> >that puts their SPAM at the top of each message?

> >I hate it!! It makes it much more difficult to read the

> >messages, in that I have to scroll down to it now.

> >

> >Please blast them, as did I a couple of nights ago.

> >

> >Blessings to all,

> >

>

>

>

>

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Maybe we should say " Hello (Yavol!!) " to Big Brother (the book, not the

show)!!!!

Clicking heels, respectfully. :-)

Blessings,

May Ip wrote:

> Bad enough to have spam mail on the top. Guess what is worse? I have

> not received mail about that yet but my hudsband has. Apparently,

> has bought egroups. They came down with a policy that they have the

> right to anything posted on egroups by anyone. In other words, when we

> share recipes among our group, the recipes automatically beome 's

> property.

>

> That's what my interpretation of their policy is anyway. Does anybody

> have a different understanding on the issue, or suggestion on how to

> deal with it?

>

> --

> May Ip(mayip@...)---------------------------Secretary

> Teledynamics Communications Inc.-------http://www.teledyn.com

> Seven Forest Place RR1 Sauble Beach Ontario Canada N0H 2G0

> Tel(519)4221150-------------------------------Fax(519)4222723

>

> ~*~*Thanks for joining! Tell your friends!!!!!All natural is the way to

go!!~*~*

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So now if you want to refer someone to message 12,345, they'll have a

hard time finding it.----

You can do it but you have to remember this code:

/message/10000

Just copy & paste the above url into your post and fill in the post

number in place of 1000 - it will link right to the post.

(This code appears in the browser window if you open any message - you

can modify it by changing the post number at the end.)

And, up is down and first is last. Too challenging for a creature of

habit like me....

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Yeah, what were they thinking? One of the reasons people most like

is now gone??? Next they'll be adding threads. Might as well go

to the BB format.

penny

>

> New format sux. I gave them my opinion, in nicer

> words.

> Barb

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Barb,

where did you send your feedback about the new format?

penny

>

> New format sux. I gave them my opinion, in nicer

> words.

> Barb

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The only upside of this I can see so far is that there's now a

seperate button for sending private emails. This should help prevent

some of the accidental postings that inevitably occurred under the old

format.

I normally wouldn't mind the ascending date format, but under the

linear format, it just doesn't make sense.

penny

>

> New format sux. I gave them my opinion, in nicer

> words.

> Barb

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I'll answer my own question. The feedback button's on the top of the

home page and also at the top/right of the " my groups " page.

penny

>

> Barb,

>

> where did you send your feedback about the new format?

>

> penny

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This crap hurts my my brain! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. I just wrote this

asking if we could get the old format back for I/I2 - something we

can vote on, on the off chance they actually respond.

---------------------------------

Many people at our health discussion group have light sensitivity

and neuro-cognitive difficulties, and prefer the visual simplicity

of the old format. Is there any chance we can get it back, just for

our group?

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> This crap hurts my my brain! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. I just wrote this

> asking if we could get the old format back for I/I2 - something we

> can vote on, on the off chance they actually respond.

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Many people at our health discussion group have light sensitivity

> and neuro-cognitive difficulties, and prefer the visual simplicity

> of the old format. Is there any chance we can get it back, just for

> our group?

Dear ,

I doubt that we are going to get the old format back: they have switched from

old

" frames " like style to something likme PHP or CSS, and EVERYTHING on

got moved to this new, er, vehicle. It is not all bad. It now resembles a blog,

and the

graphics show nicely.

However i. what bugggggs me is the up-down, previous message - latest message

function. TThat is a mess, and that we do have a right to ask them to fix.

k

Canada

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Youre no doubt right - I think I'll just open an e-mail account to

recieve this group, and read it there instead of on the site.

> Dear ,

> I doubt that we are going to get the old format back: they have

switched from old

> " frames " like style to something likme PHP or CSS, [...]

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Lee wrote: The above group to discuss Alternative

Medicine.

Ahh,

Lee, from someone steeped in the scientific method, that’s a very good

thing you’ve done. J

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Thank you. The idea is to create as many boards as we need. I am now

toying with the idea of creating a survival supplies group. Why?

Because if the worst projections are right--one billion dead--then we

need to be ready. Now that is probably very unlikely and most of the

dead will be over in Asia and not in the West. Still, we cannot be

sure and it is better to be safe.

The above group to discuss Alternative Medicine.

>

> Ahh, Lee, from someone steeped in the scientific method, that's a very

> good thing you've done. :-)

>

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This is frustrating me too! It is taking me so much longer to get

through things. I don't think we can go back if we have posted a

reply. How hard can it be?!

>

> Can I just say change is hard? lol. Is there a way to see which parts

> of a thread you've already read, or are we supposed to (gack)

*remember?

>

> Nell

>

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Still trying to figure it out (not surprising). So when you post a reply to a

message, a seperate message does not appear? Do you have to check the original

message to see if there has been a reply or new replies? Wth?

[ ] new format

Can I just say change is hard? lol. Is there a way to see which parts

of a thread you've already read, or are we supposed to (gack) *remember?

Nell

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And then remember for each message how many replies there were?

[ ] new format

Can I just say change is hard? lol. Is there a way to see which parts

of a thread you've already read, or are we supposed to (gack) *remember?

Nell

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Just thought I'd let you know that I really like the new format. It

is easier to read and I like the way it keeps the thread of the

e-mails together.

Thanks a bunch,

Bob , Granger, Indiana

Zavie # 54

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> And then remember for each message how many replies there were?

OK it's official: I loathe the new format. I can't tell what I've

read, who's posted, or wth is going on. Bleah!

Nell

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I don't think it is as bad as I had originally thought, but it took talking to

Anne to get it straight in my head, not being a math/computer person, at all.

I first thought replies to posts would not be posted seperately, but posted

under the original post. I may or may not keep an original post, but sometimes

do reread them if somebody I like to read after posts about it.

But this is not true, as undoubtedly the rest of you know, the replies do get

posted and the only thing that changes is that which each reply to a post a

thread is connected so that you can read all the replies to this thread, maybe,

not so bad.

[ ] Re: new format

>

> And then remember for each message how many replies there were?

OK it's official: I loathe the new format. I can't tell what I've

read, who's posted, or wth is going on. Bleah!

Nell

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Nell,

Do you read individual emails? Or on the list?

Anne

> >

> > And then remember for each message how many replies there were?

>

> OK it's official: I loathe the new format. I can't tell what I've

> read, who's posted, or wth is going on. Bleah!

>

> Nell

>

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I, personally, think it is an improvement. I love the fact that if

you read on the list and scroll down (when looking at a post), you

can see the history of the thread, which posts you have read and

which you haven't, etc. Am I alone in this?

Anne

> >

> > And then remember for each message how many replies there were?

>

> OK it's official: I loathe the new format. I can't tell what I've

> read, who's posted, or wth is going on. Bleah!

>

> Nell

>

>

>

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I hate it. Blech.

Pam

(I hated the last change too. What does that say about me?)

> > >

> > > And then remember for each message how many replies there

were?

> >

> > OK it's official: I loathe the new format. I can't tell what

I've

> > read, who's posted, or wth is going on. Bleah!

> >

> > Nell

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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