Guest guest Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Hi all, I'm posting below a discussion in the wake of the ASH meeting. This is from a series about CML from ASH that I am privvy to. I'm not posting them all because there are too many (62 pages in a pdf) but will post some of them. I have also removed links and references for my convenience. Below is the second one. ~ G. www.cmlsupport.com =================== Residual Disease Reduction With Longer-Term Imatinib Treatment (IRIS) Yang, MD, PhD: In another follow-up presentation of IRIS data, Dr. Goldman and colleagues[6] evaluated levels of cytogenetic response, including major molecular response, at 4 years (Capsule Summary). As part of a subset analysis of 124 patients who had achieved complete cytogenetic remission at 1 year and had tissue samples available for polymerase chain reaction (PCR) analysis at 4 years, the investigators reported a significant increase in the reduction of molecular disease over time. The results show that as patients continue imatinib therapy, the amount of minimal residual molecular disease continues to decrease, rather than plateau or increase (paired t test: P < .0001), with a mean log reduction of 3.14 and 3.54 at 1 and 4 years, respectively, and a median log reduction of 3.08 and 3.78 at 1 and 4 years. Furthermore, the proportion of these 124 patients with more than a 4 log10 reduction in BCR-ABL transcripts increased from 22%-41% over that same time period. These data suggest that continuous therapy is important and may be one of the reasons for the reduction in the annual rate of transformation to accelerated-phase or blast-crisis CML. Jane Apperley, MD: I think we should be careful about the interpretation of these data, which encompass only a subset of the 397 patients in IRIS who remain on first-line imatinib. I would like to know what is happening to the patients who were not included in this analysis. Yang, MD, PhD: I think that the important point about this abstract is that after 4 years, patients were still converting from being PCR positive to being PCR negative. Based on these findings, how should a community physician treat patients who after 2 or 3 years still have not achieved a complete, major molecular response by PCR? Should they continue treatment? Should they consider additional therapies? Hagop Kantarjian, MD: Actually, most experts are cautious about the interpretation of PCR results from commercial laboratories. Rather than discussing PCR negativity, I think it is better to talk about a reduction in molecular disease of 4 logs or more, which goes beyond the minimum requirement for major molecular response. However, detecting this level of disease can result in significant amounts of false-positive and false-negative results. Notwithstanding, investigators are reporting increasing rates of disease reduction by 4 logs or more. For example, in the article published by , the Australians showed that more than 50% of patients achieved a cumulative log reduction rate of 4 or more at 5 years, which is an incredible percentage.[3] How should we interpret this? If, after many years, a patient does not have at least a 3 log10 reduction in the amount of disease, should we intervene? From a clinical point of view, the vast majority of these patients are asymptomatic. From the scientific and research point of view, these patients might be ideal candidates for interventions, such as vaccines or nonspecific immune therapy, like interferon, that stimulate the immune system. It is also possible that some of the new kinase inhibitors may be useful in this setting. O'Brien, MB ChB: I concur. PCR is not yet so robust or standardized that we can depend on it as a completely reliable tool for disease monitoring. We are confident that achieving a 3 log10 reduction or a major molecular response is an important endpoint, but failure to achieve that endpoint does not necessarily indicate failure of therapy. I think it is premature to say that anyone who does not achieve a 3 log10 reduction after 2 years should change treatment or increase their dose of imatinib, especially since we are now seeing improved responses after several years in some of these patients. Jane Apperley, MD: It is true that the Europeans have been very enthusiastic about monitoring response by PCR, whereas clinicians in the United States have typically monitored their patients with fluorescence in situ hybridization (FISH). Previously, I supported the European view regarding PCR monitoring, but now, after reading Dr. Simonsson's results from his long-term IRIS study follow-up, I wonder whether the achievement of complete cytogenetic response is actually good enough. It is obviously important to know when a patient is " failing " therapy, however failure may be defined, as long as there is some alternative therapy to offer. In the case of young patients with potential donors for transplant, monitoring should be performed very carefully in order to identify failure as early as possible. For older patients who are not candidates for transplant, failure to respond might justify switching them to one of the new tyrosine kinase inhibitors. Although long-term durability has not yet been proven in this situation, studies we will discuss today suggest that the next generation of tyrosine kinase inhibitors is quite effective in the short term.[7-9] Yang, MD, PhD: Do you still perform PCR for your patients who are not transplant candidates? Jane Apperley, MD: Yes. We monitor PCR to identify the patient who is doing poorly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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