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At 05:11 AM 5/21/06 -0700, you wrote:

> My common sense tells me that they use bone marrow in diagnosing our

> disease, and we have some bone pain(hmmm). I know that my pain level has

> increased in the 3 years I have been a survivor(hmmm). Our immune system,

> bone marrow, and blood are all involved(hmmm); but my Oncologist, & 3

> Ortho Surgeons say that they aren't related. Go figure. . .

Hi " K " and others,

On my last visit with Dr. Druker, I showed him the abstract about the bone

issue with Gleevec. He looked at it briefly, was aware of it and said that

the way the study was done was not very scientific....that just because 2

things happen, in an aging population, it does not mean that one causes the

other.

That said....he did say that when you have CML, your bone x-rays will not

be normal....this is before treatment and while on treatment. So, when an

orthopedist sees something on x-ray and is concerned....it may really be a

normal CML x-ray. I know from others who write on various lists that they

have had doctors concerned about X-rays (looking like cysts or tumors or

???) and have been told by Dr. Talpaz that it is nothing....so he is saying

the same thing. So if you have something like shoulder pain and see an

orthopedist who takes an X-ray and expresses some concern.....it is best to

have a CML specialist look at the X-ray (it may just be a 'normal' CML

abnormality).

Maui Nanc

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My mum is having shoulder pain, too. But , what kind of abnormality they see in

X rays??

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At 05:11 AM 5/21/06 -0700, you wrote:

> My common sense tells me that they use bone marrow in diagnosing our

> disease, and we have some bone pain(hmmm). I know that my pain level has

> increased in the 3 years I have been a survivor(hmmm). Our immune system,

> bone marrow, and blood are all involved(hmmm); but my Oncologist, & 3

> Ortho Surgeons say that they aren't related. Go figure. . .

Hi " K " and others,

On my last visit with Dr. Druker, I showed him the abstract about the bone

issue with Gleevec. He looked at it briefly, was aware of it and said that

the way the study was done was not very scientific....that just because 2

things happen, in an aging population, it does not mean that one causes the

other.

That said....he did say that when you have CML, your bone x-rays will not

be normal....this is before treatment and while on treatment. So, when an

orthopedist sees something on x-ray and is concerned....it may really be a

normal CML x-ray. I know from others who write on various lists that they

have had doctors concerned about X-rays (looking like cysts or tumors or

???) and have been told by Dr. Talpaz that it is nothing....so he is saying

the same thing. So if you have something like shoulder pain and see an

orthopedist who takes an X-ray and expresses some concern.....it is best to

have a CML specialist look at the X-ray (it may just be a 'normal' CML

abnormality).

Maui Nanc

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At 08:47 PM 5/24/06 +0200, you wrote:

>My mum is having shoulder pain, too. But , what kind of abnormality they

>see in X rays??

Many folks on IM and BMS have had joint and muscle pains, esp shoulder. I

would treat it with heat (or ice) and maybe an anti-inflammatory, like Aleve.

Dr. Druker just said that the x-rays do not look normal because of changes

in the marrow from CML.........sometimes it can look like a cyst or a tumor

and be nothing. With most shoulder pain, the x-ray would be normal and no

show anything...it usually involves tendons, muscles, bursa, etc....which

don't show anything on x-ray.

C.

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> At 05:11 AM 5/21/06 -0700, you wrote:

> > My common sense tells me that they use bone marrow in diagnosing our

> > disease, and we have some bone pain(hmmm). I know that my pain level has

> > increased in the 3 years I have been a survivor(hmmm). Our immune

> system,

> > bone marrow, and blood are all involved(hmmm); but my Oncologist, & 3

> > Ortho Surgeons say that they aren't related. Go figure. . .

>

>

> Hi " K " and others,

>

> On my last visit with Dr. Druker, I showed him the abstract about the bone

> issue with Gleevec. He looked at it briefly, was aware of it and said that

> the way the study was done was not very scientific....that just because 2

> things happen, in an aging population, it does not mean that one causes

> the

> other.

>

> That said....he did say that when you have CML, your bone x-rays will not

> be normal....this is before treatment and while on treatment. So, when an

> orthopedist sees something on x-ray and is concerned....it may really be a

> normal CML x-ray. I know from others who write on various lists that they

> have had doctors concerned about X-rays (looking like cysts or tumors or

> ???) and have been told by Dr. Talpaz that it is nothing....so he is

> saying

> the same thing. So if you have something like shoulder pain and see an

> orthopedist who takes an X-ray and expresses some concern.....it is

> best to

> have a CML specialist look at the X-ray (it may just be a 'normal' CML

> abnormality).

>

> Maui Nanc

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>

>

>

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