Re: too good to be

[Guest guest]

Oh MAN!! Mav's aide is pregnant and is going to be gone for the last couple

of months of the year. This is a real panic for us since they don't have

anyone even CAPABLE of working with him on days that she is sick!!! We have

to keep him home.....(Not that he is BAD....they just don't know what to

do.)... I will be following this thread VERY closely for advice also!!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/9/01 4:47:02 PM Central Standard Time,

lowenthalrj@... writes:

> Jess has been having a pretty good year, but now there's a glitch. Her

> aide, who worked with her last year and transitioned over to middle school

> with her, is leaving at the end of the month to move to California to be

> closer to her family. She has a lot of knowledge about Jess and her needs

> and is good at adapting stuff and just is a very nice lady--plus making

sure

> I know what's up at school. The district is advertising for a

> replacement--doubt that they have anyone free in the system now. But the

> replacement won't have any knowledge of the situation. <groan>

>

> We have been interested in fading the aide, but not that completely yet!

>

> Any suggestions, words of wisdom, hard liquor?

>

> Judi

HI Judi

Good luck, we lost the aide that knew Sara front to backwards last year. Lynn

was trained in ABA and Lovas soooooo the new kids with Autism got her. Now

this year Lynn is going to school full time to be a sped teacher.

So far Sara's aide now is getting to know Sara pretty good plus her aide from

last year is now her Sped teacher. Oooooooh the transitions our kids go

through..... year after year.

Kathy mom to Sara 9

[Guest guest]

Judi,

I can tell you from experience the aide situation is rough!!!   My

had the same aide for 5 years - she was fabulous! She signed, made

modifications, was concerned and involved and you name it - she was it for

me.  She knew how to handle and didn't take anything from her

either.  We made the mutual decision to get a new aide cause we began to feel

that maybe they were both a little too dependent on each other.  I made the

decision to transfer her to another of our district's school cause they had

just started a School of Choice thru 8th.  So she had a lot of new people in

her life.  The decision was so hard on all of us.  Jen actually transitioned

better than I ever thought she would - she adjusted to the new aide without a

problem.  The new aide wasn't quite as good but wasn't bad either.  She had a

new speech therapist, new PT and same OT and same inclusion facilitator.  She

truly did well - it was me that was nervous.  I think the change was good for

all.

Then last Feb we decided to move to CA.  My husband was offered a job here

and we thought it would be good.  The schools here are so antiquated compared

to where I came from but I am working with them and they are working with me.

 They have a long way to go.  She doesn't have a one on one aide here but is

really doing all right without it.  She goes to 4 regular classes with

modifications and is in the self-contained class 2 periods a day.  I liked

the idea of small group for reading/spelling and math.  Actually she has a

regular math class, too.  She is nonverbal so all of these changes were

especially hard (no let me rephrase that- I thought they would be hard) but

she had done beautifully.

I hope knowing someone else has gone through this helps you.  Feel free to

ask any questions you have.  Kathy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/9/01 5:38:27 PM Central Standard Time, Michdock@...

writes:

<< Oh MAN!! Mav's aide is pregnant and is going to be gone for the last

couple

of months of the year. This is a real panic for us since they don't have

anyone even CAPABLE of working with him on days that she is sick!!! We have

to keep him home.....(Not that he is BAD....they just don't know what to

do.)... I will be following this thread VERY closely for advice also!!

>>

WEndy,

I know that you already know Mav's school routine quite well but for other

parents that don't I would advise that you attend school with your child for

a couple of hours a day for a couple of days.

I would also make sure that I knew exactly what adaptations the aide makes in

the lessons and environment (if any) and how close a supervision the person

provides in different settings.

That way if problems do crop up you know first hand what it should look like.

Karyn

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/9/01 9:04:31 PM Central Standard Time, KVanRyzin@...

writes:

> WEndy,

> I know that you already know Mav's school routine quite well but for other

> parents that don't I would advise that you attend school with your child

for

>

> a couple of hours a day for a couple of days.

> I would also make sure that I knew exactly what adaptations the aide makes

> in

> the lessons and environment (if any) and how close a supervision the

person

> provides in different settings.

> That way if problems do crop up you know first hand what it should look

like.

>

>

> Karyn

HI Karyn

Just a quick hi and tell us about that new baby how is your foster son

dealing with the baby too Heehee Sara is a mother hen with Tater-Tot right

now lolol she won't even let his other Grandma spend time alone with him

while she's visiting our house lol

Kathy mom to Sara 9

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 01/09/2001 8:18:36 PM US Mountain Standard Time,

b4alltoday@... writes:

<< Just a quick hi and tell us about that new baby >>

LOL.......Yes, share the details about ALONG WITH...the promised

picture!!!

[Guest guest]

Where in CA is she moving to? Perhaps I can hire her...

Re: too good to be

In a message dated 1/9/01 4:47:02 PM Central Standard Time,

lowenthalrj@... writes:

> Jess has been having a pretty good year, but now there's a glitch. Her

> aide, who worked with her last year and transitioned over to middle

school

> with her, is leaving at the end of the month to move to California to be

> closer to her family. She has a lot of knowledge about Jess and her needs

> and is good at adapting stuff and just is a very nice lady--plus making

sure

> I know what's up at school. The district is advertising for a

> replacement--doubt that they have anyone free in the system now. But the

> replacement won't have any knowledge of the situation. <groan>

>

> We have been interested in fading the aide, but not that completely yet!

>

> Any suggestions, words of wisdom, hard liquor?

>

> Judi

HI Judi

Good luck, we lost the aide that knew Sara front to backwards last year.

Lynn

was trained in ABA and Lovas soooooo the new kids with Autism got her. Now

this year Lynn is going to school full time to be a sped teacher.

So far Sara's aide now is getting to know Sara pretty good plus her aide

from

last year is now her Sped teacher. Oooooooh the transitions our kids go

through..... year after year.

Kathy mom to Sara 9

[Guest guest]

Judy:

My heart goes out to you!!! We know the value of having a good para working

with your child.

had a tough first year of middle school last year. The staff was

inexperienced, and we had a heck of a time getting a 1:1 para. After several

meetings, they finally assigned a para. Unfortunately she was also

inexperienced and her frustration showed, which didn't help 's

behavior, since he was not feeling accepted in his classroom. This was last

year.

This year is so much better; although it was difficult at first. He has a

terrific classroom teacher, who is willing to work with him and is very

accepting of him. We did have trouble getting a 1:1 para again at the

beginning of this year, but with the support of his teacher, and after one

more meeting, we were actually invited to sit in on the hiring process and

take part in the interviews! I was sick and couldn't be there, but I trusted

my husband to do this. He is very involved (we are a team) in both our boys'

education. He is also co-chair of the Sped. PAC (Parent Advisery Council) in

our city.

We actually got the para that he hoped for!!! We can't say enough about her.

She has made all the difference!!!!! He comes home so much happier each

day. I hope and pray that she can work with him next year.

I hope you are as fortunate as we were. It would be wonderful if all parents

could perhaps meet with new paras, be part of the interviews, and have them

meet our children before woking with them.

The teacher is also very appreciative of 's para. He is able to teach

his class with a lot less disruptions, since the para knows just how to get

back on track when there is a fuss or a problem.

God bless! I hope all goes well for you.

Louise

[Guest guest]

Must be something in the air - Nicky's aide, who has been with him since

first grade is also pregnant -leaving in March. She knows just how to get

him to do his work (most days) and doesn't let him get away with anything.

One of the sub aides, who knows Nick, will be taking over. She is very

nice, but maybe TOO nice. I doubt she has that 'drill sargeant' quality

that is occasionally needed. We'll see how the rest of the year goes.

a

Mom of 3,

including Nicky, 9 years old, DS, Hirschsprungs Disease

Grandma of Zoe, 3 years, and Christian, 15 months

http://www.geocities.com/eureka/7926/nicky.html

work: http://www.cumberlink.com

----- Original Message -----

From: <Michdock@...>

> Oh MAN!! Mav's aide is pregnant and is going to be gone for the last

couple

> of months of the year. This is a real panic for us since they don't have

> anyone even CAPABLE of working with him on days that she is sick!!! We

have

> to keep him home.....(Not that he is BAD....they just don't know what to

> do.)... I will be following this thread VERY closely for advice also!!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Judi,

No hard liquor, but I'll share a 12-pack Bud Light(haha)....If the aide is

still there when they hire a new one, make sure the 3 of you all sit

together so you can fill the new one in on Jess and what you expect. Also,

if the aide is just for her, ask if you can be in on part of the interview

process...........

Maura

----Original Message Follows----

From: " lowenthalrj " <lowenthalrj@...>

<egroups>

Subject: too good to be

Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:29:53 -0500

Jess has been having a pretty good year, but now there's a glitch. Her

aide, who worked with her last year and transitioned over to middle school

with her, is leaving at the end of the month to move to California to be

closer to her family. She has a lot of knowledge about Jess and her needs

and is good at adapting stuff and just is a very nice lady--plus making sure

I know what's up at school. The district is advertising for a

replacement--doubt that they have anyone free in the system now. But the

replacement won't have any knowledge of the situation. <groan>

We have been interested in fading the aide, but not that completely yet!

Any suggestions, words of wisdom, hard liquor?

Judi

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[Guest guest]

I have found this as well. Change for my guy is usually easier for him than

I expect it will be.

Dawn (mom to 7ds)

Re: too good to be

Judi,

I can tell you from experience the aide situation is rough!!!   My

had the same aide for 5 years - she was fabulous! She signed, made

modifications, was concerned and involved and you name it - she was it for

me.  She knew how to handle and didn't take anything from her

either.  We made the mutual decision to get a new aide cause we began to

feel

that maybe they were both a little too dependent on each other.  I made the

decision to transfer her to another of our district's school cause they had

just started a School of Choice thru 8th.  So she had a lot of new people in

her life.  The decision was so hard on all of us.  Jen actually transitioned

better than I ever thought she would - she adjusted to the new aide without

a

problem.  The new aide wasn't quite as good but wasn't bad either.  She had

a

new speech therapist, new PT and same OT and same inclusion facilitator.

 She

truly did well - it was me that was nervous.  I think the change was good

for

all.

Then last Feb we decided to move to CA.  My husband was offered a job here

and we thought it would be good.  The schools here are so antiquated

compared

to where I came from but I am working with them and they are working with

me.

 They have a long way to go.  She doesn't have a one on one aide here but is

really doing all right without it.  She goes to 4 regular classes with

modifications and is in the self-contained class 2 periods a day.  I liked

the idea of small group for reading/spelling and math.  Actually she has a

regular math class, too.  She is nonverbal so all of these changes were

especially hard (no let me rephrase that- I thought they would be hard) but

she had done beautifully.

I hope knowing someone else has gone through this helps you.  Feel free to

ask any questions you have.  Kathy

[Guest guest]

Relax, Judi. I'm betting the new aide will learn just as the other one did.

granny

---

" For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:

and the government shall be upon his shoulder:

and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor,

The mighty God, The everlasting Father,

The Prince of Peace. " -- The Prophet Isaiah

http://home.earthlink.net/~bspyle

too good to be

> Jess has been having a pretty good year, but now there's a glitch. Her

> aide, who worked with her last year and transitioned over to middle school

> with her, is leaving at the end of the month to move to California to be

> closer to her family. She has a lot of knowledge about Jess and her needs

> and is good at adapting stuff and just is a very nice lady--plus making

sure

> I know what's up at school. The district is advertising for a

> replacement--doubt that they have anyone free in the system now. But the

> replacement won't have any knowledge of the situation. <groan>

>

> We have been interested in fading the aide, but not that completely yet!

>

> Any suggestions, words of wisdom, hard liquor?

>

> Judi

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/10/01 8:22:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,

lowenthalrj@... writes:

<< you can't teach or learn that. >>

or wait years for someone else to develop it! ;-)

Cheryl in VA

[Guest guest]

How can I relax--I'm a type--what comes before A? ;o) This aide has such a

good rapport with Jess--you can't teach or learn that.

Judi

Re: too good to be

Relax, Judi. I'm betting the new aide will learn just as the other one did.

granny

---

" For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:

and the government shall be upon his shoulder:

and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor,

The mighty God, The everlasting Father,

The Prince of Peace. " -- The Prophet Isaiah

http://home.earthlink.net/~bspyle

too good to be

> Jess has been having a pretty good year, but now there's a glitch. Her

> aide, who worked with her last year and transitioned over to middle school

> with her, is leaving at the end of the month to move to California to be

> closer to her family. She has a lot of knowledge about Jess and her needs

> and is good at adapting stuff and just is a very nice lady--plus making

sure

> I know what's up at school. The district is advertising for a

> replacement--doubt that they have anyone free in the system now. But the

> replacement won't have any knowledge of the situation. <groan>

>

> We have been interested in fading the aide, but not that completely yet!

>

> Any suggestions, words of wisdom, hard liquor?

>

> Judi

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

RE: too good to be

> How can I relax--I'm a type--what comes before A? ;o) This aide has such a

> good rapport with Jess--you can't teach or learn that.

> Judi

*chuckle* You type A types get what you deserve. Always seeing problems

before they happen. The new aide may be different, but just as good in may

ways. Give her a chance!

Hugs,

granny, type B type and glad of it :^)

---

" For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:

and the government shall be upon his shoulder:

and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor,

The mighty God, The everlasting Father,

The Prince of Peace. " -- The Prophet Isaiah

http://home.earthlink.net/~bspyle

[Guest guest]

Well, fine--but they haven't even advertised for her yet!

Judi

Re: too good to be

RE: too good to be

> How can I relax--I'm a type--what comes before A? ;o) This aide has such a

> good rapport with Jess--you can't teach or learn that.

> Judi

*chuckle* You type A types get what you deserve. Always seeing problems

before they happen. The new aide may be different, but just as good in may

ways. Give her a chance!

Hugs,

granny, type B type and glad of it :^)

---

" For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:

and the government shall be upon his shoulder:

and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor,

The mighty God, The everlasting Father,

The Prince of Peace. " -- The Prophet Isaiah

http://home.earthlink.net/~bspyle

[Guest guest]

BINGO!

Re: too good to be

In a message dated 1/10/01 8:22:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,

lowenthalrj@... writes:

<< you can't teach or learn that. >>

or wait years for someone else to develop it! ;-)

Cheryl in VA

[Guest guest]

Ralph thinks we should get to interview any candidates for the aide

position, especially since it's in the middle of the school year and also

wants to observe her interacting with Jess--thoughts? I think we can

request, but they wouldn't have to let us.

Also, I'm thinking we should have an IEP meeting before the current aide

leaves to discuss the impact of her leaving and of getting a new aide up to

speed--aide will need to be able to adapt materials using Boardmaker and

other means, apply behavioral stategies in behavior plan (which was going so

well!), communicate with parents re; daily events and needs, collaborate

with teachers and parents--is Mother Theresa looking for a position? ;o)

Judi

[Guest guest]

I think Ralph is right.

granny

---

" For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:

and the government shall be upon his shoulder:

and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor,

The mighty God, The everlasting Father,

The Prince of Peace. " -- The Prophet Isaiah

http://home.earthlink.net/~bspyle

RE: too good to be

> Ralph thinks we should get to interview any candidates for the aide

> position, especially since it's in the middle of the school year and also

> wants to observe her interacting with Jess--thoughts? I think we can

> request, but they wouldn't have to let us.

>

> Also, I'm thinking we should have an IEP meeting before the current aide

> leaves to discuss the impact of her leaving and of getting a new aide up

to

> speed--aide will need to be able to adapt materials using Boardmaker and

> other means, apply behavioral stategies in behavior plan (which was going

so

> well!), communicate with parents re; daily events and needs, collaborate

> with teachers and parents--is Mother Theresa looking for a position? ;o)

>

> Judi

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/11/01 8:55:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,

lowenthalrj@... writes:

<< *chuckle* You type A types get what you deserve. Always seeing problems

before they happen. The new aide may be different, but just as good in may

ways. Give her a chance! >>

Granny,

In the real world here is what usually happens and why Judi is worried.

First they will wait months to advertise a job .... and there will be no

substititue to fill in on a regular basis .. so the class will witness a

parade of people in and out. THese people won't have a clue what to do or

how to do it. ANd the teacher will spend more time than she can afford

trying to show the substitutes how to do their job. That will go on for

months.

THen, they will hire someone. They will be more than likely in need of

training and help and by now the teacher will be really perturbed and Jessie

will have started regressing and the school will start yapping at Judi that

perhaps Jessie's placement is all wrong because she is not making the

progress they had hoped for. In the meantime they will schedule some

training and the aid will be out of the classroom and Jessie will only

receive sporatic services. Once the aid is completely trained, school will

be over.

During the summer, the new aide will either find another job or get pregnant!

;-)

Cheryl in VA

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/11/01 1:52:08 PM Central Standard Time,

wildwards@... writes:

> Cheryl in VA

Ooooh Cheryl you posted something sooo predictable and typical We have

been going through this with Sped teachers for the past couple years. Sara's

teacher now (who is great!!!!!!) has promised she'll be here for next

year....fingers crossed

Kathy mom to Sara 9..........who has had a new team of professionals (each

year and sometimes semesters) for the past 3 years

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/11/01 4:55:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,

lowenthalrj@... writes:

<< But somehow, it makes me feel worse! >>

Oh no Judi! Feel great that your child at least had the benefit of an aide

that was helpful and provided what Miss needed. So many kids don't

have that! Wonder how many people on this list have had any aides in classes

when their kids needed them or had aides that did the best they could?

In my daughter's high school, for any of the kids, aides in special ed

classes - none. Aides in regular ed classes to provide assistance - none.

Cheryl in VA

[Guest guest]

Good analysis, Cheryl. But somehow, it makes me feel worse!

Judi

Re: too good to be

In a message dated 1/11/01 8:55:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,

lowenthalrj@... writes:

<< *chuckle* You type A types get what you deserve. Always seeing problems

before they happen. The new aide may be different, but just as good in may

ways. Give her a chance! >>

Granny,

In the real world here is what usually happens and why Judi is worried.

First they will wait months to advertise a job .... and there will be no

substititue to fill in on a regular basis .. so the class will witness a

parade of people in and out. THese people won't have a clue what to do or

how to do it. ANd the teacher will spend more time than she can afford

trying to show the substitutes how to do their job. That will go on for

months.

THen, they will hire someone. They will be more than likely in need of

training and help and by now the teacher will be really perturbed and Jessie

will have started regressing and the school will start yapping at Judi that

perhaps Jessie's placement is all wrong because she is not making the

progress they had hoped for. In the meantime they will schedule some

training and the aid will be out of the classroom and Jessie will only

receive sporatic services. Once the aid is completely trained, school will

be over.

During the summer, the new aide will either find another job or get

pregnant!

;-)

Cheryl in VA

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/11/01 3:37:10 PM Pacific Standard Time,

egroups writes:

> . They will be more than likely in need of

> training and help and by now the teacher will be really perturbed and

> Jessie

> will have started regressing and the school will start yapping at Judi that

> perhaps Jessie's placement is all wrong because she is not making the

>

Whoa! This is exactly what is happening to us : ( Cheryl, you are right on.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

LOL Cheryl it's obvious to me that I am living in the 'real world'

that you've described. Last year in particular.

Barb mom to (8ds) and Tyler (5nds)

> In a message dated 1/11/01 8:55:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> lowenthalrj@s... writes:

>

> << *chuckle* You type A types get what you deserve. Always seeing

problems

> before they happen. The new aide may be different, but just as

good in may

> ways. Give her a chance! >>

>

> Granny,

> In the real world here is what usually happens and why Judi is

worried.

> First they will wait months to advertise a job .... and there will

be no

> substititue to fill in on a regular basis .. so the class will

witness a

> parade of people in and out. THese people won't have a clue what

to do or

> how to do it. ANd the teacher will spend more time than she can

afford

> trying to show the substitutes how to do their job. That will go

on for

> months.

>

> THen, they will hire someone. They will be more than likely in

need of

> training and help and by now the teacher will be really perturbed

and Jessie

> will have started regressing and the school will start yapping at

Judi that

> perhaps Jessie's placement is all wrong because she is not making

the

> progress they had hoped for. In the meantime they will schedule

some

> training and the aid will be out of the classroom and Jessie will

only

> receive sporatic services. Once the aid is completely trained,

school will

> be over.

>

> During the summer, the new aide will either find another job or get

pregnant!

> ;-)

>

> Cheryl in VA