Guest guest Posted July 14, 2004 Report Share Posted July 14, 2004 Okay, Elissa, here's another one for the " scratch your head " file. When I had my hip replacement, due to my congenital hip dysplasia, my OS had to lengthen my leg, which made all the muscles, tendons and nerves really tight and painful. He had to be very careful not to stretch the sciatic nerve too much, which would result in a foot drop (kind of a paralysis of the foot). Okay, fast forward to when I have the future posterior spinal osteotomy to crank me backward. Won't this stretch the nerves and muscles that run between the back and the hip/leg even more? I'm sure I've been told no by at least one medical professional, but I can't figure out how the heck they yank you backward WITHOUT doing so? Ugh!!!!!! loriann Dislaimer: I know nothing either!!! > As noted below, there's been a thread about the perceived decline of > posterior-only osteotomies. I don't pay much attention to the > mechanics of this whole thing, but it seems to me -- heavily > disclaimed that I'm a dingbat -- that a posterior-only osteotomy > wouldn't really help restore lordosis, so if the goal was to restore > a curve, osteotomies on one side only wouldn't necessarily help much. > > What I mean is this. If the goal is to take a stick-straight spine > and make it into a curved shape again, you can't just take a wedge > out of one side -- you need to make a wedge on the other side so that > the whole thing can bend. > > I don't know if I'm explaining that correctly and I *CERTAINLY* don't > know if my half-baked assessment is correct. But when I visualize > trying to make something completely straight become curved by cutting > wedges out of it (and of course applying adequate force to make the > bend, placing instrumentation and fusion mass to fuse it solid, > etc.), it seems like you need one in the front to be the outside of > the curve and one on the back to be the inside of the curve. But > again, there are clearly all kinds of revisions that are nothing like > the one that I had. Hey, have I disclaimed this enough? > > Elissa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2004 Report Share Posted July 14, 2004 Hi Elissa... I think, much of the time, all that's needed in the front of the spine is replacement of discs with cages. -- > As noted below, there's been a thread about the perceived decline of > posterior-only osteotomies. I don't pay much attention to the > mechanics of this whole thing, but it seems to me -- heavily > disclaimed that I'm a dingbat -- that a posterior-only osteotomy > wouldn't really help restore lordosis, so if the goal was to restore > a curve, osteotomies on one side only wouldn't necessarily help much. > > What I mean is this. If the goal is to take a stick-straight spine > and make it into a curved shape again, you can't just take a wedge > out of one side -- you need to make a wedge on the other side so that > the whole thing can bend. > > I don't know if I'm explaining that correctly and I *CERTAINLY* don't > know if my half-baked assessment is correct. But when I visualize > trying to make something completely straight become curved by cutting > wedges out of it (and of course applying adequate force to make the > bend, placing instrumentation and fusion mass to fuse it solid, > etc.), it seems like you need one in the front to be the outside of > the curve and one on the back to be the inside of the curve. But > again, there are clearly all kinds of revisions that are nothing like > the one that I had. Hey, have I disclaimed this enough? > > Elissa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2004 Report Share Posted July 14, 2004 Re posterior only - I cannot picture any of this either and do not have my films here to help, but can say that I had the posterior only osteotomy and NO cage. Osteo was at previously fused level - could this make a difference? All I know is that I was straight before and now have nice lordosis. > > From: " Racine " <linda@...> > Date: 2004/07/14 Wed PM 05:21:39 EDT > > Subject: Re: Posterior-only osteotomies (was re Post-op walking goals > > Hi Elissa... > > I think, much of the time, all that's needed in the front of the spine > is replacement of discs with cages. > > -- > > > > As noted below, there's been a thread about the perceived decline of > > posterior-only osteotomies. I don't pay much attention to the > > mechanics of this whole thing, but it seems to me -- heavily > > disclaimed that I'm a dingbat -- that a posterior-only osteotomy > > wouldn't really help restore lordosis, so if the goal was to restore > > a curve, osteotomies on one side only wouldn't necessarily help much. > > > > What I mean is this. If the goal is to take a stick-straight spine > > and make it into a curved shape again, you can't just take a wedge > > out of one side -- you need to make a wedge on the other side so that > > the whole thing can bend. > > > > I don't know if I'm explaining that correctly and I *CERTAINLY* don't > > know if my half-baked assessment is correct. But when I visualize > > trying to make something completely straight become curved by cutting > > wedges out of it (and of course applying adequate force to make the > > bend, placing instrumentation and fusion mass to fuse it solid, > > etc.), it seems like you need one in the front to be the outside of > > the curve and one on the back to be the inside of the curve. But > > again, there are clearly all kinds of revisions that are nothing like > > the one that I had. Hey, have I disclaimed this enough? > > > > Elissa > > > > > > Support for scoliosis-surgery veterans with Harrington Rod Malalignment Syndrome. Not medical advice. Group does not control ads or endorse any advertised products. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2004 Report Share Posted July 14, 2004 If your original fusion was anterior/posterior, I imagine it would be necessary to do the revision A/P as well, assuming that the osteotomy is through fusion mass, which has filled in between the vertebrae, where the disc once was. If the anterior side of the joint was not fused, then the posterior osteotomy would free up the joint enough to bend backward into the desired. position. An anterior approach might still be needed for stability, or maybe, if the anterior portion of the disc is badly degenerated. <Insert standard disclaimer here.> Sharon Green, Doctor of Sounding Like I Know More Than I Do. Re: Posterior-only osteotomies (was re Post-op walking goals > > Hi Elissa... > > I think, much of the time, all that's needed in the front of the spine > is replacement of discs with cages. > > -- > > > > As noted below, there's been a thread about the perceived decline of > > posterior-only osteotomies. I don't pay much attention to the > > mechanics of this whole thing, but it seems to me -- heavily > > disclaimed that I'm a dingbat -- that a posterior-only osteotomy > > wouldn't really help restore lordosis, so if the goal was to restore > > a curve, osteotomies on one side only wouldn't necessarily help much. > > > > What I mean is this. If the goal is to take a stick-straight spine > > and make it into a curved shape again, you can't just take a wedge > > out of one side -- you need to make a wedge on the other side so that > > the whole thing can bend. > > > > I don't know if I'm explaining that correctly and I *CERTAINLY* don't > > know if my half-baked assessment is correct. But when I visualize > > trying to make something completely straight become curved by cutting > > wedges out of it (and of course applying adequate force to make the > > bend, placing instrumentation and fusion mass to fuse it solid, > > etc.), it seems like you need one in the front to be the outside of > > the curve and one on the back to be the inside of the curve. But > > again, there are clearly all kinds of revisions that are nothing like > > the one that I had. Hey, have I disclaimed this enough? > > > > Elissa > > > > > > Support for scoliosis-surgery veterans with Harrington Rod Malalignment Syndrome. Not medical advice. Group does not control ads or endorse any advertised products. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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