Re: New here very frustrated ()

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Hi ,

Thanks for sharing your story with me. I think I know what you

are getting at, and I am trying to get off any med that I can. Right

now I can't stay out of the ICU for more than three to four weeks at

a time. I guess a little control first, then try to decrease,

stating first with the dreaded steroids.

I sure was hoping that the desens would work(although I am going

to try it again) in the hopes of at least decreasing my meds.

I am sorry to hear of your fathers passing. It sure is pretty

concerning that a doctor can just make up a reason for death. I

guess some really do think they are a god.

Cherry scented oxygen sounds great!!! I know the love -hate thing

with doctors. It is very frustrating sometimes. I am glad to hear

that your cholesterol is down. That must have taken a lot of effort.

Thanks again for writing me, I did not mean to scare you or

anything. Hope all is well.

Take Care,

-- In samters , RulonKB@a... wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> I wasn't going to respond because, quite frankly, your e-mail

scared the heck

> out of me. But I'll share a story for what it's worth.

>

> About 20 years ago, we had to put my father into a nursing home

cause Mom was

> just too frail to care for his aging needs. He hated it and

quickly managed

> to get himself kicked out. But before he went in, and while he was

there, his

> prescription intake kept going up and up to the point he was on 12-

15 meds a

> day. When he got kicked out, we decided to temporarily move him

down to Rush

> Presbyterian hospital in Chicago for observation. The new doctor

there went

> nuts when he saw the list of drugs he was on. So he quickly

decided to

> " baseline " him. That is, he was taken off of all meds and set up

on monitors, with

> daily tests performed. The doctor wanted to see what would happen,

med free.

> With all he was taking, the doctor couldn't possibly know what was

wrong in

> the first place. I think that's probably still true today, even if

it's 20

> years later.

>

> After about a week, he checked out with 3 meds. I only recall one

was for

> high blood pressure.

>

> I wish I could say he lived happily ever after for another 20

years, but he

> didn't. He ultimately died from internal bleeding from a nasty

bleeding ulcer

> that opened through. But his " other " long time doctor wrote on his

death

> certificate that he died of Alzheimer's. Funny we never noticed

that, although we

> did notice his stroke several years earlier. My younger brother

had recently

> graduated for NU Medical school and had the certificate changed,

while he

> called my dad's " other " doctor an uneducated, ignorant pile of

proverbial p

> hooey...or something similar.

>

> Just thought I'd share the story. I'd buy your extra oxygen but

remember

> that years ago claimed he slept in a hyperberic

chamber at night.

> Don't think I'll go there unless it helps my singing voice and

dance steps.

> Besides, I'd probably have to meet you in Nogales and smuggle it

in. I prefer

> the cherry scented stuff you can get for $15 for 10 minutes in Las

Vegas.

>

> Welcome to the Samters Clubhouse.

>

> (AZ)

>

> Ps: A couple of weeks ago at my annual, I asked my doctor to

prescribe a

> good statin for cholesterol. I brought my down from 260 to 220

through " work " .

> He said, " Sorry, you're not at a treatable level anymore. Diet and

exercise " .

> I hate my doctor. I love my doctor.