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Jim, what is your current maintenance dose of ASA?

Ken West

> From: " Jim " <jim747@...>

> Organization: Brown

> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 15:57:29 -0600

.. . . snip . . .

>

> Actually I am still trying to decide if aspirin desens. has helped me very

> much. Right now, I think it did. At first I was quite disappointed to get a

> sinus infection only 6 weeks after returning home. I also lost my smell.

> However, last December 14th I was put on a small (4mg) Medrol dosepak along

> with some antibiotics to get rid of my infection. I was amazed at how fast

> my smell returned (within hours). In recent years, it would take a much

> stronger/longer dose of prednisone to have that effect. I actually still

> have my smell and taste most days now- 3 months later, even though I

> currently have another infection.

>

> I really think that the aspirin desens takes a while to reduce

> polyps/symptoms. Unlike you, I was on the verge of having another operation

> (frontal sinuses) before going to Scripps, but decided against it. So my

> results may be hampered by my existing polyps. However, something positive

> must be going on in my head right now, because for me to be able to taste,

> even when I have a big sinus infection, is really rare.

>

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Hi Ken,

I was on 1300mg/ day for the first month. That's two with breakfast and two

with dinner. Since that first month, I have been on only two a day - 650mg -

one with breakfast and one with dinner.

Incidentally, after a month of maalox coated aspirin, I started having heart

burn so I switched to Ecotrin - the kind that dissolves in the small

intestine (enteric aspirin). I recommend that to anyone that goes on aspirin

maintenance. Especially since many of us already have GERD.

Jim

Re: Does Desens last?

Jim, what is your current maintenance dose of ASA?

Ken West

> From: " Jim " <jim747@...>

> Organization: Brown

> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 15:57:29 -0600

.. . . snip . . .

>

> Actually I am still trying to decide if aspirin desens. has helped me very

> much. Right now, I think it did. At first I was quite disappointed to get

a

> sinus infection only 6 weeks after returning home. I also lost my smell.

> However, last December 14th I was put on a small (4mg) Medrol dosepak

along

> with some antibiotics to get rid of my infection. I was amazed at how fast

> my smell returned (within hours). In recent years, it would take a much

> stronger/longer dose of prednisone to have that effect. I actually still

> have my smell and taste most days now- 3 months later, even though I

> currently have another infection.

>

> I really think that the aspirin desens takes a while to reduce

> polyps/symptoms. Unlike you, I was on the verge of having another

operation

> (frontal sinuses) before going to Scripps, but decided against it. So my

> results may be hampered by my existing polyps. However, something positive

> must be going on in my head right now, because for me to be able to taste,

> even when I have a big sinus infection, is really rare.

>

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Thanks Jim.

Do you equate the return of your symptoms with the smaller maintenance dose?

1300mg/day seems like a lot, so its natural to want to go down to 650, but I

keep wondering if A LOT of ASA is needed to get the full benefits of

desensitization.

regards,

Ken West

> From: " Jim " <jim747@...>

> Organization: Brown

> Reply-samters

> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 16:13:23 -0600

> <samters >

> Subject: RE: Does Desens last?

>

> Hi Ken,

> I was on 1300mg/ day for the first month. That's two with breakfast and two

> with dinner. Since that first month, I have been on only two a day - 650mg -

> one with breakfast and one with dinner.

>

> Incidentally, after a month of maalox coated aspirin, I started having heart

> burn so I switched to Ecotrin - the kind that dissolves in the small

> intestine (enteric aspirin). I recommend that to anyone that goes on aspirin

> maintenance. Especially since many of us already have GERD.

>

> Jim

>

> Re: Does Desens last?

>

> Jim, what is your current maintenance dose of ASA?

>

> Ken West

>

>> From: " Jim " <jim747@...>

>> Organization: Brown

>> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 15:57:29 -0600

> . . . snip . . .

>>

>> Actually I am still trying to decide if aspirin desens. has helped me very

>> much. Right now, I think it did. At first I was quite disappointed to get

> a

>> sinus infection only 6 weeks after returning home. I also lost my smell.

>> However, last December 14th I was put on a small (4mg) Medrol dosepak

> along

>> with some antibiotics to get rid of my infection. I was amazed at how fast

>> my smell returned (within hours). In recent years, it would take a much

>> stronger/longer dose of prednisone to have that effect. I actually still

>> have my smell and taste most days now- 3 months later, even though I

>> currently have another infection.

>>

>> I really think that the aspirin desens takes a while to reduce

>> polyps/symptoms. Unlike you, I was on the verge of having another

> operation

>> (frontal sinuses) before going to Scripps, but decided against it. So my

>> results may be hampered by my existing polyps. However, something positive

>> must be going on in my head right now, because for me to be able to taste,

>> even when I have a big sinus infection, is really rare.

>>

>

>

>

>

>

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I really don't know, Ken.

Actually I am just following Dr. son's directions. He said that I

should only take 2 a day after that first month. Apparently his numerous

studies have shown that the 650 mg daily dose is statistically significant

in the long term. However, he did say that I could periodically raise the

dosage on a temporary basis if I felt it was having a positive effect.

I think there is probably some underlying concern that quite a few

desensitized people eventually go off aspirin because of stomach

side-effects, so they are looking for a low dose that alleviates most of

the sinus problems. I still have some of those stomach problems, even after

going to two enteric aspirin a day. Next month, when the nurse calls me to

see how I am doing, I will probably ask if I should try a higher dose. But

honestly, I am beginning to think that this dose may be helping some. I'm

going to take my time and play it slow. I guess if I lose my smell, I will

get more agressive in trying a higher dose. That's my main gripe about

Samters - I don't like headaches, infections, asthma or any of those

symptoms, but having no smell/taste is the one that really gets to me!

My layman's guess at this point is that aspirin has reduced my ethmoid area

polyps where my smell gland is. However, my frontal sinus polyps are so

large that they are still resulting in blockage/infections in that area.

Just a guess.

Do I remember hearing you say that you went off aspirin?

Jim

> [Original Message]

> From: Ken West <kenwest@...>

> <samters >

> Date: 3/16/2004 8:40:03 PM

> Subject: Re: Does Desens last?

>

> Thanks Jim.

>

> Do you equate the return of your symptoms with the smaller maintenance

dose?

>

> 1300mg/day seems like a lot, so its natural to want to go down to 650,

but I

> keep wondering if A LOT of ASA is needed to get the full benefits of

> desensitization.

>

> regards,

> Ken West

>

> > From: " Jim " <jim747@...>

> > Organization: Brown

> > Reply-samters

> > Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 16:13:23 -0600

> > <samters >

> > Subject: RE: Does Desens last?

> >

> > Hi Ken,

> > I was on 1300mg/ day for the first month. That's two with breakfast and

two

> > with dinner. Since that first month, I have been on only two a day -

650mg -

> > one with breakfast and one with dinner.

> >

> > Incidentally, after a month of maalox coated aspirin, I started having

heart

> > burn so I switched to Ecotrin - the kind that dissolves in the small

> > intestine (enteric aspirin). I recommend that to anyone that goes on

aspirin

> > maintenance. Especially since many of us already have GERD.

> >

> > Jim

> >

> > Re: Does Desens last?

> >

> > Jim, what is your current maintenance dose of ASA?

> >

> > Ken West

> >

> >> From: " Jim " <jim747@...>

> >> Organization: Brown

> >> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 15:57:29 -0600

> > . . . snip . . .

> >>

> >> Actually I am still trying to decide if aspirin desens. has helped me

very

> >> much. Right now, I think it did. At first I was quite disappointed to

get

> > a

> >> sinus infection only 6 weeks after returning home. I also lost my

smell.

> >> However, last December 14th I was put on a small (4mg) Medrol dosepak

> > along

> >> with some antibiotics to get rid of my infection. I was amazed at how

fast

> >> my smell returned (within hours). In recent years, it would take a much

> >> stronger/longer dose of prednisone to have that effect. I actually

still

> >> have my smell and taste most days now- 3 months later, even though I

> >> currently have another infection.

> >>

> >> I really think that the aspirin desens takes a while to reduce

> >> polyps/symptoms. Unlike you, I was on the verge of having another

> > operation

> >> (frontal sinuses) before going to Scripps, but decided against it. So

my

> >> results may be hampered by my existing polyps. However, something

positive

> >> must be going on in my head right now, because for me to be able to

taste,

> >> even when I have a big sinus infection, is really rare.

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> From: " Jim Brown " <jim747@...>

> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 21:29:25 -0600

.. . . snip . . .

> Do I remember hearing you say that you went off aspirin?

> Jim

Since I joined this group, I have desensitized 3 times, and am currently on

desensitization maintenance.

The previous two times I backed off after several months because I started

having various symptoms recur.

Whether that recurrance was due to the effects of desensitization " wearing

off " , I don't know, but that would be consistant with several other types of

medication that I've taken over the last 10 years.

Or, perhaps the renewed symptoms were complications from other conditions

that I'm dealing with, like dust-mite allergy.

Who knows, its very complicated, and none of my MDs are making it any

simpler.

Right now, I've been desensitized since 1Feb, and am feeling pretty good,

and actually got a little tiny whiff of coffee this morning.

Thanks for sharing your experience.

regards,

Ken West

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