abdominal pain

[Guest guest]

> Last night I was sitting at the computer and my right side started hurting

> like a cramp or a gas pain.

The first question is, did you ever have this pain before? I know, dumb

question.

>This morning it is more in the right side of my

> lower abdomen. Any ideas? It's almost like a stitch in your side if you

> run too much.

Maybe one of the gals with gall bladder problems can say if this is

consistent with that kind of pain. GB pains flare up after fatty meals, so

maybe that chicken fajita was worse for you than you thought.

> I want to walk on the treadmill but this hurts. Should I go ahead and

walk?

Walking might help it, if it's something like gas. Just take it a bit slower

today, and if it hurts more when walking, stop. Sorry I can't help much.

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----- Original Message -----

From: " Sue in NJ " <susang@...>

> The first question is, did you ever have this pain before? I know, dumb

> question.

Nope. Except when running when I would get a cramp in my side.

> Maybe one of the gals with gall bladder problems can say if this is

> consistent with that kind of pain. GB pains flare up after fatty meals, so

> maybe that chicken fajita was worse for you than you thought.

Feels the same this afternoon as it did this morning.

> Walking might help it, if it's something like gas. Just take it a bit

slower

> today, and if it hurts more when walking, stop. Sorry I can't help much.

It can't be gas on my right side at the bottom of my rib cage. Probably

a pulled muscle but I'll call the doc if it gets worse.

Ann

[Guest guest]

Ruth, Im sorry that you havent gotten any answers about your side pain. I hope

someone can get you the answers you need and soon. Take care. JC

[umpoopydo@...] wrote:

Hi all,

Well the verdict is in from the gastro. No-one knows why I have the

pain in my abdomen/side. All the tests came back negative. I asked

the dr. if it was possible that the clip, that the surgeon placed in

there from the gall bladder surgery, is being vibrated by the stim

and causing the pain. She said that she didn't know but it was an

interesting idea and that I should talk to my pain dr. about it. So

back to square one. She also said that she didn't know what could be

done if it is the clip. I think the only way to know if it's the

clip is to have it taken out, but I'll have to see what the dr.

says. He'll probably say I'll have to talk to the surgeon again!!!

Around and around we go. I've been here before. Not being able to

get an answer is so frustrating. The worst thing is that I cannot

use the scs to it's full capacity because it then makes my

abdomen/side hurt. Maybe the pain will subside on it's own over

time. It is less than it was before, so maybe, maybe it will go away.

Holly, glad to hear from you. I hope you are feeling better soon.

Take care of yourself and let us know how things are.

How is everyone else doing out there? Any of the new members have

anything going on with their scs?

Take care all and good wishes to everyone.

Ruth

[Guest guest]

---Ruth Hi I have an idea why don't you try turning off the

stimulator and see if the abdominal pain goes away. If it does you

have your awnser if not I would talk to the rep and doc that did the

surgery and see if the location is causing the pain of the battery.

They might have to move it to a different location, or you may need

to get adjustments with the stimulator with your rep. my stimulator

causes stimulation into the abdominal area at times when that happens

I either don't worry about it or I call my rep if it's bothering me

to adjust things. I would recommend try talking to your doc and rep

and see what they think and go from there good luck!

take care

Holly group Moderator

In Stimulator , " Ruth " <umpoopydo@...> wrote:

>

> Hi all,

> Well the verdict is in from the gastro. No-one knows why I have

the

> pain in my abdomen/side. All the tests came back negative. I

asked

> the dr. if it was possible that the clip, that the surgeon placed

in

> there from the gall bladder surgery, is being vibrated by the stim

> and causing the pain. She said that she didn't know but it was an

> interesting idea and that I should talk to my pain dr. about it.

So

> back to square one. She also said that she didn't know what could

be

> done if it is the clip. I think the only way to know if it's the

> clip is to have it taken out, but I'll have to see what the dr.

> says. He'll probably say I'll have to talk to the surgeon

again!!!

> Around and around we go. I've been here before. Not being able to

> get an answer is so frustrating. The worst thing is that I cannot

> use the scs to it's full capacity because it then makes my

> abdomen/side hurt. Maybe the pain will subside on it's own over

> time. It is less than it was before, so maybe, maybe it will go

away.

>

> Holly, glad to hear from you. I hope you are feeling better soon.

> Take care of yourself and let us know how things are.

>

> How is everyone else doing out there? Any of the new members have

> anything going on with their scs?

>

> Take care all and good wishes to everyone.

> Ruth

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Holly,

Tried that. It isn't directly from the stimulator. It started after

I had the gall bladder surgery. The stim makes it worse. The higher

I turn up the stim the worse the pain gets. I am going to ask the

tech to see if she can try to make it better. She has tried before

but it was right after the surgery. So maybe she will have better

luck this time.

Ruth

> >

> > Hi all,

> > Well the verdict is in from the gastro. No-one knows why I have

> the

> > pain in my abdomen/side. All the tests came back negative. I

> asked

> > the dr. if it was possible that the clip, that the surgeon placed

> in

> > there from the gall bladder surgery, is being vibrated by the

stim

> > and causing the pain. She said that she didn't know but it was

an

> > interesting idea and that I should talk to my pain dr. about it.

> So

> > back to square one. She also said that she didn't know what

could

> be

> > done if it is the clip. I think the only way to know if it's the

> > clip is to have it taken out, but I'll have to see what the dr.

> > says. He'll probably say I'll have to talk to the surgeon

> again!!!

> > Around and around we go. I've been here before. Not being able

to

> > get an answer is so frustrating. The worst thing is that I

cannot

> > use the scs to it's full capacity because it then makes my

> > abdomen/side hurt. Maybe the pain will subside on it's own over

> > time. It is less than it was before, so maybe, maybe it will go

> away.

> >

> > Holly, glad to hear from you. I hope you are feeling better

soon.

> > Take care of yourself and let us know how things are.

> >

> > How is everyone else doing out there? Any of the new members

have

> > anything going on with their scs?

> >

> > Take care all and good wishes to everyone.

> > Ruth

> >

>

[Guest guest]

i haven't yet searched the archives to see if this is a commonality with thise

of us who have Samter's but i have to ask

are there others of you who have a messed up stomach with pain and what feels

like rocks going down your esophogus? i wake up in with a very uncomfortable

feeling in my gut and today it was really reallly bad

had diarhea and threw up foam almost like when i went in to anaphylatic shock

this past summer. I got pretty scared

i havenot gotten a good handle on what i can eat etc..

i have a dr appt in mid october but this is really getting debilitating and i

don't know if i can wait that long

can some of you offer me some ideas of what i can eat without feeling like i am

being poisoned the next day?

please

Thank you

[Guest guest]

maybe you need that stool test from metametrix..the complete stool profile.

demeirleir does it with his patients and then prescribes specific antibiotics.

he gets results. i think he believes the gut is all screwed up and that is whats

causing CFS!

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From: cancfs <ambitious8@...>

Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:20:30 PM

Subject: Abdominal pain

 

I wrote to this group a few months ago about my abdominal pain.

I have since figured out that my pain is caused by sitting down. It is quite

bizzare. I spend most of the day sitting down in front of a computer (not much

else to do when you have CFS and have no energy to move). I realized that every

night when I lie down to go to sleep I start hearing these loud gurgling sounds

coming from my abdomen and I feel my intestines moving. With each wave of

peristalsis (intestinal movement) I could feel the pain slowly going away.

After about 30 to 45 minutes, the pain was gone. This same pattern repeats

itself every day....pain during the day when I am sitting and gradual relief

when I lie down. Standing up does not help so much.

Has anybody experienced something like this? Even the gastroenterologists seem

to find it weird.

[Guest guest]

" cancfs " <ambitious8@...> wrote:

>

> I wrote to this group a few months ago about my abdominal pain.

>

> I have since figured out that my pain is caused by

> sitting down. It is quite bizzare. I spend most of

> the day sitting down in front of a computer (not much

> else to do when you have CFS and have no energy to move).

> I realized that every night when I lie down to go to

> sleep I start hearing these loud gurgling sounds coming

> from my abdomen and I feel my intestines moving. With

> each wave of peristalsis (intestinal movement) I could

> feel the pain slowly going away. After about 30 to 45

> minutes, the pain was gone. This same pattern repeats

> itself every day....pain during the day when I am

> sitting and gradual relief when I lie down. Standing

> up does not help so much.

>

> Has anybody experienced something like this?

> Even the gastroenterologists seem to find it weird.

Many Drs who have not a had a problem themselves find a

condition weird, can't relate to it from personal experience.

Trapped gas is often relieved by lying on one's side, which

allows gas to move out. So intestinal dynamics can be changed

by sitting/standing vs. lying down - things move around

differently lying down.

From a TCM perspective, this would be called " stagnant Qi " ,

Qi moves much less when the person sits all the time.

From a homeopathic perspective, there are some constitutions

predisposed to this.

From a nutritional/genetic perspective, gluten, whole wheat

lectin, other food sensitivities, nutritional and hormone

deficiencies can slow transit time, and can predispose to

irritable bowel and trapped gas, slow transit time.

These is a common situation, but unfortunately there is not

enough matter-of-fact discussion about this in our culture,

so each person who has it hides and suffers often for years

or decades before the situation gets unpacked and effectively

addressed, ideally by all angles concurrently.

Carol W.

willis_protocols

Articles in Files.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Sounds like it would be helpful to take a brief rest period once or twice

throughout the day and lie down for 20 minutes or so.

Do you take a probiotic regularly? Digestive Enzymes might also help.

Peace, Love and Harmony,

Bev

>

> I wrote to this group a few months ago about my abdominal pain.

>

> I have since figured out that my pain is caused by sitting down. It is quite

bizzare. I spend most of the day sitting down in front of a computer (not much

else to do when you have CFS and have no energy to move). I realized that every

night when I lie down to go to sleep I start hearing these loud gurgling sounds

coming from my abdomen and I feel my intestines moving. With each wave of

peristalsis (intestinal movement) I could feel the pain slowly going away.

After about 30 to 45 minutes, the pain was gone. This same pattern repeats

itself every day....pain during the day when I am sitting and gradual relief

when I lie down. Standing up does not help so much.

>

> Has anybody experienced something like this? Even the gastroenterologists

seem to find it weird.

>

[Guest guest]

Possibly related to POTS/orthostatic intolerance.

[Guest guest]

Char-

I have very similar issues. When it's bad it affects my back, hips and legs too.

It used to just be my lower back and glutes, but that has changed in the past

couple of months.

 

My pain is definitely tied to my bowels is some way. If I'm not stretching

during the day and getting my IBS under control then my back, hips and legs hurt

a lot. And obviously if the IBS isn't isn't controlled then my gut hurts as

well.

Char

On May 22, 2012, at 1:20 PM, " cancfs " <ambitious8@...> wrote:

> I wrote to this group a few months ago about my abdominal pain.

>

> I have since figured out that my pain is caused by sitting down. It is quite

bizzare. I spend most of the day sitting down in front of a computer (not much

else to do when you have CFS and have no energy to move). I realized that every

night when I lie down to go to sleep I start hearing these loud gurgling sounds

coming from my abdomen and I feel my intestines moving. With each wave of

peristalsis (intestinal movement) I could feel the pain slowly going away. After

about 30 to 45 minutes, the pain was gone. This same pattern repeats itself

every day....pain during the day when I am sitting and gradual relief when I lie

down. Standing up does not help so much.

>

> 

>

>

[Guest guest]

That's a very interesting connection between posture and organs. There is a

method that helps people sit and move properly that could help, The Gokhale

Method: http://egwellness.com. They now have a well designed chair. I got their

back pad for sitting and I use it in my car. Back support should be at the mid

back, not the lower back. That is one of the interesting thing you will learn.

Your organs and breath can be constrained with bad posture.

Gokhale has a clinic in Palo Alto.

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the interesting website . I will look through it more

carefully.

In response to some of the posts yesterday...I am not sure that I have IBS. I

have no gas, no diarrhea, no constipation....just abdominal pain, which goes

away when I lay down at the end of the day.

I have tried lying down during the day...it does not have the same effect. It

will reduce the pain temporarily, but it will come right back as soon as I sit

down again.

The weird part is that this symptom emerged overnight. One day I was well and

the next day I had abdominal pain. I would have expected a gradual onset.

Keep the responses coming...they are very helpful.

>

> That's a very interesting connection between posture and organs. There is a

method that helps people sit and move properly that could help, The Gokhale

Method: http://egwellness.com. They now have a well designed chair. I got their

back pad for sitting and I use it in my car. Back support should be at the mid

back, not the lower back. That is one of the interesting thing you will learn.

Your organs and breath can be constrained with bad posture.

>

> Gokhale has a clinic in Palo Alto.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sounds like it might be related to inflamed nerves. do you have sciatica? 

I ended up buying a used Herman miller aeron chair which helped some. Sitting

for too long still eventually causes pain but it takes a little longer. Also

when I'm sitting sometimes my pant waist pinches the nerves at my hips and

causes nerve issues. (which could affect the bowel) 

[Guest guest]

Hello Heytrollop,

I have no sciatica or back pain...just abdominal pain.

It sounds like you are saying that you have the same problem as I

do....abdominal pain provoked by sitting down. Am I understanding you correctly

or are you saying that sitting down causes you back pain?

Is your only treatment using a Herman chair or have you tried anything

else?

>

> Sounds like it might be related to inflamed nerves. do you have sciatica? 

>

> I ended up buying a used Herman miller aeron chair which helped some. Sitting

for too long still eventually causes pain but it takes a little longer. Also

when I'm sitting sometimes my pant waist pinches the nerves at my hips and

causes nerve issues. (which could affect the bowel) 

>