Guest guest Posted May 3, 2000 Report Share Posted May 3, 2000 Sena, As something of an expert at world religions, (I've studied every major branch over the last 45 years or so, including wicca) I have to tell you that to most serious students of religion (especially of a spiritual nature) wicca is little more than very basic pagan rituals and chanting, even though it has some value in that it helps polarize the mind and/or body into some kind of action, if only at the immediate moment. There are lessons to be learned from this, and perhaps meditation is at the peak of these. We are hoping that you will continue to search on your journey for the truth and love that is true religion, and that you will reach full circle and return fully justified to God the Father and Creator of us all. Don't be led or influenced by any group or clique, but rather go your solo journey and seek Him wherever love is in its truest form. You will know love and it will know you, and through this you will find God! Peace, Love, and Best Wishes, Gregary and Friends Re: [OT] Energy medicine>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit>>I disagree. Witchcraft is PHARMACIA. That's drugs. It's very clear who>the witches are out there.>>Speaking from a religious perspective, the entire discussion about chemo>and radiation is socery.>>Be well,>>>At 04:28 PM 05/03/2000 EDT, you wrote:>>this is witchcraft medicine. I would not mess with it.>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------>You have a voice mail message waiting for you at iHello.com:>1/3555/7/_/378/_/957400806/>------------------------------------------------------------------------>>Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own linksthere. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroupsor by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv>> Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2000 Report Share Posted May 3, 2000 Energy medicine http://www.prodigyweb.net.mx/curing/ingles.html It seems you put the top of your hand on your head and the left over the organ in need of help. This is medicine--electronic plus gem therapy from the Indian Ayurveda---invented by Jon Whale http://whalemedical.com/ Future medicine now. Who also wrote these articles of energy medicine from Native American stockpile of secrets. How to correct some case of depression, for example, in 30 seconds as I witnessed twice. Core Energy Surgery for the Electromagnetic Body (PT1)The short cut back to health, normality and freedom. 'The information presented below is not a theory but the result of 20 years of clinical observations. Anyone prepared to investhttp://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Energy%20Medicine/whale15.htm Shifting Assemblage Points (PT3)In the final part of this ground-breaking series, Dr Jon Whale describes how to shift Assemblage Points. Instructions regarding how to locate Assemblage Points, pre-requisite to acURL: http://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Energy%20Medicine/whale17.htm Core Energy - Locating the Assemblage Point (PT2)Every so often, a beneficial discovery or invention comes along that changes the course of fortune and history. Discovering and proving that every human has an Energy Body and Assehttp://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Energy%20Medicine/whale16.htm Core Energy – Case StudiesCore Energy Case Studies The following case studies are from the patient files of Jon Whale and Shanti Cole About the Author Jon Whale is an electronic design and developURL: http://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Energy%20Medicine/whale15a.htm Core Energy – Case StudiesCase Studies The following four cases illustrate when it is and is not appropriate to shift a patient s Assemblage Point manually Jon Whale Case Study 1 Ms H 22 Years Old GlURL: http://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Energy%20Medicine/whale16a.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2000 Report Share Posted May 3, 2000 Sorcery... ahem, sorry for the typo. also, for reference, please see Dr. Lorraine Day's site, http://www.drday.com. She also has pictures of the tumor that she personally had to deal with on that site. Be well, At 08:45 PM 05/03/2000 -0500, you wrote: >... pardon my ignorance but what is >socery? > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Get paid for the stuff you know! >Get answers for the stuff you don’t. And get $10 to spend on the site! >1/2200/7/_/378/_/957404725/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv >Received: from mailsorter-101-5.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.30) by > storefull-617.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Wed, 3 May 2000 > 17:44:31 -0700 (PDT) >Return-Path: <sentto-1013122-766-jrtex=webtv.netreturns (DOT) onelist.com> >Received: from ck. (ck. [208.50.144.69]) by > mailsorter-101-5.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/ms.dwm.v7+dul2) > with SMTP id RAA17912 for <jrtex@...>; Wed, 3 May 2000 > 17:44:07 -0700 (PDT) >X-eGroups-Return: sentto-1013122-766-jrtex=webtv.netreturns (DOT) onelist.com >Received: from [10.1.10.38] by ck. with NNFMP; 04 May 2000 > 00:40:16 -0000 >Received: (qmail 20879 invoked from network); 4 May 2000 00:40:05 -0000 >Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 May > 2000 00:40:05 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.squonk.net) (204.141.184.22) by mta3 > with SMTP; 4 May 2000 00:40:04 -0000 >Received: from squonk.net.squonk.net (dialup-073.squonk.net > [204.141.185.73]) by mailhost.squonk.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id > UAA07245 for <cures for canceregroups>; Wed, 3 May 2000 20:40:01 > -0400 (EDT) >Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20000503205328.0069bb14@...> >X-Sender: ancient@... >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) >cures for canceregroups >In-Reply-<c3.4e70996.2641e5d5@...> >From: Webster <michelle@...> >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Mailing-List: list cures for canceregroups; contact > cures for cancer-owneregroups >Delivered-mailing list cures for canceregroups >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups> >Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 20:53:28 -0500 >Reply-cures for canceregroups >Subject: Re: [OT] Energy medicine >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >I disagree. Witchcraft is PHARMACIA. That's drugs. It's very clear who >the witches are out there. > >Speaking from a religious perspective, the entire discussion about chemo >and radiation is socery. > >Be well, > > >At 04:28 PM 05/03/2000 EDT, you wrote: >>this is witchcraft medicine. I would not mess with it. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >You have a voice mail message waiting for you at iHello.com: >1/3555/7/_/378/_/957400806/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2000 Report Share Posted May 3, 2000 Eat; I've been watching this cross-commentary between you, Soni, my dad (Gregary), and others and quite frankly it's getting beyond the bounds of being helpful and loving and more toward starting a battle. I don't know the rest of you but I know my father and his character and credentials are of the absolute highest standard - - - he wouldn't intentionally hurt or mislead anyone for any reason. He deals with students every day as a professor of religion and is one of the most intense and gentle persons I have ever known. As to the study of the feminine in religion (the spiritual aspect, most embodied by Jesus himself - - - the Living Word), you may want to research the Great Sophia in all ancient Christian and Jewish scriptures; you may be surprised at what you find. My dad wrote a long treatise on this in a book he wrote on spiritualism many years ago; you might want to search this out in your local library system (look under " Gregary Cody " ). Anyway, I wish you truth and love in all your searches, and a new and full education in the " spirit " (God's Holy Spirit, the true teacher He sent for all of us). Let us not make war, but rather love and help each other. Cody . Re: [OT] Energy medicine > In a message dated 5/3/00 11:53:16 PM Central Daylight Time, > Cody@... writes: > > << > We are hoping that you will continue to search on your journey for the truth > and love that is true religion, and that you will reach full circle and > return fully justified to God the Father and Creator of us all. Don't be led > or influenced by any group or clique, but rather go your solo journey and > seek Him wherever love is in its truest form. You will know love and it will > know you, and through this you will find God! > >> > > You know this full circle stuff is just more gobbledygook religion that has > no real path to follow and everyone must seek their way to this path blinded, > mute and dumb because there are no directions. It all is a scam of the devil > appeasing the pride of man that somehow man can go full circle and earn his > way to heaven. Lie and more lies. Nobody can do that, that is why Christ > came and became the sacrifice. All we have to do is believe God and receive > Christ and we become born again and KNOW the way, not try to find it though > some mystic thinking. Gads, I use to think like that and it is so dumb. > Jesus said I am the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE. If you haven't gone HIS > WAY, you are led astray to NO WAY but eternal death and destruction. God did > not it hard to come to Him. The way through Jesus is easy, FREE, You don't > have to earn it, you can't be good enough, but Jesus made a way through HIM. > Don't be tricked through mystic full circle talk that is as clear as a mud > puddle. What does that mean, you have to find your own way. NOTHING. It > means nothing and there is NO OTHER WAY. I pray these words don't fall on > deaf ears Lord. In Jesus Name Amen > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *--- FREE VOICEMAIL FOR YOUR HOME PHONE! ---* > With eVoice Now you can keep in touch with clients, vendors, co-workers, > friends and family ANYTIME, ANYWHERE. Sign Up Today for FREE! > 1/3426/7/_/378/_/957452834/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2000 Report Share Posted May 4, 2000 Sena; Try 1 cup of Red-Raspberries / lowfat cottage cheese mix given throughout the day (Essiac acid, nature's most excellent anti-oxidant). Also, do not give any sweets or sugars (these feed and intensify cancers); instead give lite fruit juices and clean (filtered) water. Good luck! Cody. Re: [OT] Energy medicine> In a message dated 5/3/00 11:53:16 PM Central Daylight Time,> Cody@... writes:>> <<> We are hoping that you will continue to search on your journey for thetruth> and love that is true religion, and that you will reach full circle and> return fully justified to God the Father and Creator of us all. Don't beled> or influenced by any group or clique, but rather go your solo journey and> seek Him wherever love is in its truest form. You will know love and itwill> know you, and through this you will find God!> >>>> You know this full circle stuff is just more gobbledygook religion thathas> no real path to follow and everyone must seek their way to this pathblinded,> mute and dumb because there are no directions. It all is a scam of thedevil> appeasing the pride of man that somehow man can go full circle and earnhis> way to heaven. Lie and more lies. Nobody can do that, that is why Christ> came and became the sacrifice. All we have to do is believe God andreceive> Christ and we become born again and KNOW the way, not try to find itthough> some mystic thinking. Gads, I use to think like that and it is so dumb.> Jesus said I am the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE. If you haven't gone HIS> WAY, you are led astray to NO WAY but eternal death and destruction. Goddid> not it hard to come to Him. The way through Jesus is easy, FREE, Youdon't> have to earn it, you can't be good enough, but Jesus made a way throughHIM.> Don't be tricked through mystic full circle talk that is as clear as a mud> puddle. What does that mean, you have to find your own way. NOTHING. It> means nothing and there is NO OTHER WAY. I pray these words don't fallon> deaf ears Lord. In Jesus Name Amen>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------> *--- FREE VOICEMAIL FOR YOUR HOME PHONE! ---*> With eVoice Now you can keep in touch with clients, vendors, co-workers,> friends and family ANYTIME, ANYWHERE. Sign Up Today for FREE!> 1/3426/7/_/378/_/957452834/> ------------------------------------------------------------------------>> Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own linksthere. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups orby visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv>> Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2000 Report Share Posted May 4, 2000 Yes I agree that the use of chemo is socerry, but so is energy medicine. Jesus Christ is the healer and all others is of satan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2000 Report Share Posted May 4, 2000 A witch is a witch, if you don't like the truth then stop being a witch. Witchcraft is an abomination and a stench in the nostils of the Lord God and those who practice such have damned their souls. That does not mean they can't repent, God's mercy is great. But don't be offended, wake up and smell the roses, the rose of Sharon, Jesus Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2000 Report Share Posted May 4, 2000 In a message dated 5/3/00 11:53:16 PM Central Daylight Time, Cody@... writes: << We are hoping that you will continue to search on your journey for the truth and love that is true religion, and that you will reach full circle and return fully justified to God the Father and Creator of us all. Don't be led or influenced by any group or clique, but rather go your solo journey and seek Him wherever love is in its truest form. You will know love and it will know you, and through this you will find God! >> You know this full circle stuff is just more gobbledygook religion that has no real path to follow and everyone must seek their way to this path blinded, mute and dumb because there are no directions. It all is a scam of the devil appeasing the pride of man that somehow man can go full circle and earn his way to heaven. Lie and more lies. Nobody can do that, that is why Christ came and became the sacrifice. All we have to do is believe God and receive Christ and we become born again and KNOW the way, not try to find it though some mystic thinking. Gads, I use to think like that and it is so dumb. Jesus said I am the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE. If you haven't gone HIS WAY, you are led astray to NO WAY but eternal death and destruction. God did not it hard to come to Him. The way through Jesus is easy, FREE, You don't have to earn it, you can't be good enough, but Jesus made a way through HIM. Don't be tricked through mystic full circle talk that is as clear as a mud puddle. What does that mean, you have to find your own way. NOTHING. It means nothing and there is NO OTHER WAY. I pray these words don't fall on deaf ears Lord. In Jesus Name Amen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2000 Report Share Posted May 4, 2000 In a message dated 5/4/00 8:19:34 AM Central Daylight Time, michelle@... writes: << So, it remains that witches do practice " energy medicine " , but it doesn't logically follow that all who practice " energy medicine " or " energetic medicine " are witches. >> If energy medicine is not the power that comes only from the Holy Spirit, then it is witchcraft. We will do the same things as Christ did, IN HIS NAME. Not in the name of energy or some other name. Your source of energy is the question that needs to be answered. Magnetic energy is God created energy and can be used as all of God's created natural laws. But they are not to be worshipped or seen as the source of healing. God clearly says to give thanks to Him for all things. Now don't be foolish and think well we should thank him for witchcraft. His word is clear on that those who practice such things will NOT enter the Kingdom of God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2000 Report Share Posted May 4, 2000 In a message dated 5/4/00 8:19:34 AM Central Daylight Time, michelle@... writes: << So, dear witch, what I say is still true. There is wicca, you say, and that you are tame, but there are other witches out there, not so tame. Unfortunately, you witches will continue to get lumped together on occation, due to public ignorance, etc. >> How do you separate one devil from another. They still serve satan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2000 Report Share Posted May 4, 2000 Dear witch, Let's see if we can straighten this out. Energy medicine was attacked at witchcraft. You say? I replied that witchcraft, perhaps to be more correct, sorcery was the practice of alchemy (read: drugs and other hideous "medical" practices). So, it remains that witches do practice "energy medicine", but it doesn't logically follow that all who practice "energy medicine" or "energetic medicine" are witches. Does anyone else get the same feeling that I do, that this world is becoming a very complicated place? So, dear witch, what I say is still true. There is wicca, you say, and that you are tame, but there are other witches out there, not so tame. Unfortunately, you witches will continue to get lumped together on occation, due to public ignorance, etc. Let me share a true story. A dear friend whose son is attending his last year at Bastyr College in Washington to become a naturopathic doctor, completed some training with a major hospital in Seattle. When he originally checked in, he was sent to a darkened auditorium, to meet with the oncology department members and other upper level medical doctors of the hospital. At the appointed time, on a weekly basis, he was to report to this "area" to play "DOOM" a role-playing game, that I consider demonic. Doom is a game that the Columbine highschool shooters were involved with. After talking with his father, the advice his father gave him was that he shouldn't jepordize his last year of school over something as silly as a roleplaying game. Pray tell, is this acceptable witchcraft? Grown up oncologist roleplaying as..... warlocks and ???? I think I've told this story before on this list. 'nuff said. Be well, At 11:06 PM 05/04/2000 -0400, you wrote: >>>> > Dear , > > As a witch, I take great offence at your comments. Witches do not practice drugs, chemo, etc. They are people of the earth, who use natural methods. This is one of the reasons they were burned at the stake---by the barbers and butches who hated the healing they provided (among other reasons). > > Wicca is a religion---my religion. You have no right to associate it with modern medical butchers. They are not related. > > I prefer to think of drug therapies and the like as nazism. Science with no thought of people. Science which mangles and mutilates for the sake of research. > > Signed, > a witch > > > > > Re: [OT] Energy medicine > > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > > > >I disagree. Witchcraft is PHARMACIA. That's drugs. It's very clear who > > >the witches are out there. > > > > > > > >Speaking from a religious perspective, the entire discussion about chemo > > >and radiation is socery. > > > > > > > >Be well, > > > > > > > > > > >At 04:28 PM 05/03/2000 EDT, you wrote: > > >>this is witchcraft medicine. I would not mess with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >You have a voice mail message waiting for you at iHello.com: > > >1/3555/7/_/378/_/957400806/ > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > >Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links > > there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups > > or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > > > > Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > > > ---------- > <1/3964/7/_/378/_/957409817/> > > ---------- > Get HUGE info at <http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net,>http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting <http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv>http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > <<<< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2000 Report Share Posted May 4, 2000 In a message dated 05/04/2000 10:51:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, eat2heal@... writes: > > Yes I agree that the use of chemo is socerry, but so is energy medicine. > Jesus Christ is the healer and all others is of satan. > So then, I guess according to you we're all just wasting our time on this list. Since most of those posting here profess to be God-loving, (some obsessively so), but are still facing tremendous physical challenges and very difficult lives, it seems that the relationship with God is not a reciprocal one! Since you feel that both traditional medicine (chemo), and alternative medicine (energy and others) are sorcery, that doesn't leave much to fall back on when prayers and supplications have failed, does it? You say something to the effect of " What have the Hindu Gods done for the people of India? " -- well, what has your God done for the people on this list? Not much, but crumbs, from what I read! We're ALL still searching, if anyone had a REALLY conclusive answer, whether diet, poisons, hocus-pocus, radionics, prayer, clean living, or whatever, we would ALL KNOW IT. All of these things can help, but they are not THE answer, and however much much you may promote the delights of Heaven, most of the folks on this list seem pretty desperate to stay right here on earth for a while longer. At any rate, I feel that God gave us minds to use, and if that leads us to " man-made " cures, so be it. I can't believe that God would look favorably upon one who rejects one of His greatest gifts of all, use of the human mind. Actually, if we ALL thought your way, we, here, would be in a state much closer to that of India (to which I have been for several long visits), and for a very much worse reason -- the deliberate rejection of progress -- as opposed to primitive conditions inflicted by economic hardships. God helps those who help themselves. Long live diversity! Rosy Dixon P.S. Maybe you should try " Eat2Think " , instead. And, on a lighter note... FINDING THE LORD A drunk stumbles along and comes to a Baptismal service on a Sunday afternoon down by the river. He proceeds to stumble down into the water and stands next to the Minister. The Minister turns, notices the old drunk and says, " Mister, are you ready to find Jesus? " The drunk looks back and says, " Yes sir, I am. " The Minister then dunks the fellow under the water and pulls him right back up. " Have you found Jesus? " the Minister asked. " No, I didn't! " said the drunk. The Minister then dunks him under for a quite a bit longer, brings him up and says, " Now brother, have you found Jesus? " " No, I did not! " said the drunk again. Disgusted, the Minister holds the man under for at least 30 seconds this time, brings him up and demands, " For the grace of God, have you found Jesus yet?!!!?? " The old drunk wipes his eyes and pleads, " Are you sure this is where he fell in? " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2000 Report Share Posted May 4, 2000 We ARE open minded, Sena..... I think some of us have too much time on our hands, and we're on the internet for too long. JR, isn't there a breathelizer or something for that, so after so many hours of internet contact, the monitor automatically shuts off or something? For real, folks, isn't life hard enough? Be well, At 12:58 PM 05/05/2000 -0400, you wrote: >>>> > , > > Thanks for your great letter. And thank you Gregary for your apology. > > Yes, we need to support each other here. I am dealing with my nephew (2 and 1/2) just being diagnosed with leukemia. A friend told me to come here so I did. > > Sometimes I forget how much cruelty their is in the world. I didn't expect to be reminded here, by people such as eat2. > My religion and culture (Hindu) are often attacked. I just was caught off guard here, because I thought it would be more open minded people. > > Sena > > > Re: [OT] Energy medicine > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/3/00 11:53:16 PM Central Daylight Time, > > > Codyworldnet (DOT) att.net writes: > > > > > > > > << > > > We are hoping that you will continue to search on your journey for the > > truth > > > and love that is true religion, and that you will reach full circle and > > > return fully justified to God the Father and Creator of us all. Don't be > > led > > > or influenced by any group or clique, but rather go your solo journey and > > > seek Him wherever love is in its truest form. You will know love and it > > will > > > know you, and through this you will find God! > > > >> > > > > > > > > You know this full circle stuff is just more gobbledygook religion that > > has > > > no real path to follow and everyone must seek their way to this path > > blinded, > > > mute and dumb because there are no directions. It all is a scam of the > > devil > > > appeasing the pride of man that somehow man can go full circle and earn > > his > > > way to heaven. Lie and more lies. Nobody can do that, that is why Christ > > > came and became the sacrifice. All we have to do is believe God and > > receive > > > Christ and we become born again and KNOW the way, not try to find it > > though > > > some mystic thinking. Gads, I use to think like that and it is so dumb. > > > Jesus said I am the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE. If you haven't gone HIS > > > WAY, you are led astray to NO WAY but eternal death and destruction. God > > did > > > not it hard to come to Him. The way through Jesus is easy, FREE, You > > don't > > > have to earn it, you can't be good enough, but Jesus made a way through > > HIM. > > > Don't be tricked through mystic full circle talk that is as clear as a mud > > > puddle. What does that mean, you have to find your own way. NOTHING. It > > > means nothing and there is NO OTHER WAY. I pray these words don't fall > > on > > > deaf ears Lord. In Jesus Name Amen > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > *--- FREE VOICEMAIL FOR YOUR HOME PHONE! ---* > > > With eVoice Now you can keep in touch with clients, vendors, co-workers, > > > friends and family ANYTIME, ANYWHERE. Sign Up Today for FREE! > > > 1/3426/7/_/378/_/957452834/ > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links > > there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or > > by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > > > > Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > > > ---------- > <1/3964/7/_/378/_/957459784/> > > ---------- > Get HUGE info at <http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net,>http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting <http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv>http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > <<<< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2000 Report Share Posted May 4, 2000 Dear , As a witch, I take great offence at your comments. Witches do not practice drugs, chemo, etc. They are people of the earth, who use natural methods. This is one of the reasons they were burned at the stake---by the barbers and butches who hated the healing they provided (among other reasons). Wicca is a religion---my religion. You have no right to associate it with modern medical butchers. They are not related. I prefer to think of drug therapies and the like as nazism. Science with no thought of people. Science which mangles and mutilates for the sake of research. Signed, a witch Re: [OT] Energy medicine>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit>>I disagree. Witchcraft is PHARMACIA. That's drugs. It's very clear who>the witches are out there.>>Speaking from a religious perspective, the entire discussion about chemo>and radiation is socery.>>Be well,>>>At 04:28 PM 05/03/2000 EDT, you wrote:>>this is witchcraft medicine. I would not mess with it.>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------>You have a voice mail message waiting for you at iHello.com:>1/3555/7/_/378/_/957400806/>------------------------------------------------------------------------>>Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own linksthere. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroupsor by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv>> Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2000 Report Share Posted May 4, 2000 Rosy: This story reminds me of the circuit preacher on his semi-annual baptismal visits in the hills of W.Virginia. He comes to a shack where little rastus is to be baptised but his mother was down by the river getting some water while leaving the baby with his sister. The preacher, being in a hurry, asked the girl if there was other water around. She said only what was in the pail by the bed. So the preacher used it just as the mother came back. When she found out what happened she blurted out " You done made my Rastus a Pisscapalean " . In a message dated 05/04/2000 10:51:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, eat2heal@... writes: > > Yes I agree that the use of chemo is socerry, but so is energy medicine. > Jesus Christ is the healer and all others is of satan. > So then, I guess according to you we're all just wasting our time on this list. Since most of those posting here profess to be God-loving, (some obsessively so), but are still facing tremendous physical challenges and very difficult lives, it seems that the relationship with God is not a reciprocal one! Since you feel that both traditional medicine (chemo), and alternative medicine (energy and others) are sorcery, that doesn't leave much to fall back on when prayers and supplications have failed, does it? You say something to the effect of " What have the Hindu Gods done for the people of India? " -- well, what has your God done for the people on this list? Not much, but crumbs, from what I read! We're ALL still searching, if anyone had a REALLY conclusive answer, whether diet, poisons, hocus-pocus, radionics, prayer, clean living, or whatever, we would ALL KNOW IT. All of these things can help, but they are not THE answer, and however much much you may promote the delights of Heaven, most of the folks on this list seem pretty desperate to stay right here on earth for a while longer. At any rate, I feel that God gave us minds to use, and if that leads us to " man-made " cures, so be it. I can't believe that God would look favorably upon one who rejects one of His greatest gifts of all, use of the human mind. Actually, if we ALL thought your way, we, here, would be in a state much closer to that of India (to which I have been for several long visits), and for a very much worse reason -- the deliberate rejection of progress -- as opposed to primitive conditions inflicted by economic hardships. God helps those who help themselves. Long live diversity! Rosy Dixon P.S. Maybe you should try " Eat2Think " , instead. And, on a lighter note... FINDING THE LORD A drunk stumbles along and comes to a Baptismal service on a Sunday afternoon down by the river. He proceeds to stumble down into the water and stands next to the Minister. The Minister turns, notices the old drunk and says, " Mister, are you ready to find Jesus? " The drunk looks back and says, " Yes sir, I am. " The Minister then dunks the fellow under the water and pulls him right back up. " Have you found Jesus? " the Minister asked. " No, I didn't! " said the drunk. The Minister then dunks him under for a quite a bit longer, brings him up and says, " Now brother, have you found Jesus? " " No, I did not! " said the drunk again. Disgusted, the Minister holds the man under for at least 30 seconds this time, brings him up and demands, " For the grace of God, have you found Jesus yet?!!!?? " The old drunk wipes his eyes and pleads, " Are you sure this is where he fell in? " ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You have a voice mail message waiting for you at iHello.com: 1/3555/7/_/378/_/957478751/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 JR, I heard the same joke many years ago about a Carolina hillbilly (probably one of my relatives); it was funny then and it's still funny. Thanks for the laughs and the memories - - - I can still picture my grandmother telling that joke then just busting out laughing! The world needs a lot more laughter and cheer. Cody. Re: [OT] Energy medicine > Rosy: This story reminds me of the circuit > preacher on his semi-annual baptismal visits > in the hills of W.Virginia. He comes to a > shack where little rastus is to be baptised but > his mother was down by the river getting some > water while leaving the baby with his sister. > The preacher, being in a hurry, asked the girl > if there was other water around. She said only > what was in the pail by the bed. So the preacher used it just as the > mother came back. > When she found out what happened she > blurted out " You done made my Rastus > a Pisscapalean " . > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > You have a voice mail message waiting for you at iHello.com: > 1/3555/7/_/378/_/957505715/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 Eat, I agree; fruits and vegetables and nuts and berries (this is almost dessert isn't it?) all contain the wonderful nutrients God intended us to have for food ( " This will be meat unto you! " - - - Genesis), to sustain our life and health. His word is to be our spiritual food, to sustain our souls and our true Life - - - now and always! This is His primary way of communicating with us until we develop enough sensitivity to converse spiritually, which will come in time with the fulfilment of all God's gifts to us. Blessed are the Peacemakers! God bless you and yours. Cody. Re: [OT] Energy medicine > In a message dated 5/4/00 5:20:20 PM Central Daylight Time, rosydixon@... > writes: > > << t any rate, I feel that God gave us minds to use, and if that leads us to > " man-made " cures, so be it. I can't believe that God would look favorably > upon one who rejects one of His greatest gifts of all, use of the human > mind. > >> > You see the problem with you not being able to understand what I am saying is > that there is God and there is a Devil. God gave us everything we need and > natural cures are plentiful that do not require the use of witchcraft type > therapies that come with a spiritual price. Wisdom is what our mind should > be seeking, and all wisdom comes from God and if you are not plugged in to > His wisdom then you are merely depending on the wisdom of the world which is > foolishness to the Lord. God is not complicated, man complicates things and > the AMA is evidence of that truth. You aren't reading me correctly and are > merely upset that I identified the darkness that is in energy medicine. Just > know that if you do use things that are mystic like healing energy there is a > spiritual consequence. > > There are plently of natural cures without fearing you can't find one. > > > Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 JR, Rastus jokes are something that should have been buried with the advent of civil rights. You probably intended no offense, but I find such jokes extremely offensive. Re: [OT] Energy medicine > Rosy: This story reminds me of the circuit > preacher on his semi-annual baptismal visits > in the hills of W.Virginia. He comes to a > shack where little rastus is to be baptised but > his mother was down by the river getting some > water while leaving the baby with his sister. > The preacher, being in a hurry, asked the girl > if there was other water around. She said only > what was in the pail by the bed. So the preacher used it just as the > mother came back. > When she found out what happened she > blurted out " You done made my Rastus > a Pisscapalean " . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 In a message dated 5/4/00 5:20:20 PM Central Daylight Time, rosydixon@... writes: << t any rate, I feel that God gave us minds to use, and if that leads us to " man-made " cures, so be it. I can't believe that God would look favorably upon one who rejects one of His greatest gifts of all, use of the human mind. >> You see the problem with you not being able to understand what I am saying is that there is God and there is a Devil. God gave us everything we need and natural cures are plentiful that do not require the use of witchcraft type therapies that come with a spiritual price. Wisdom is what our mind should be seeking, and all wisdom comes from God and if you are not plugged in to His wisdom then you are merely depending on the wisdom of the world which is foolishness to the Lord. God is not complicated, man complicates things and the AMA is evidence of that truth. You aren't reading me correctly and are merely upset that I identified the darkness that is in energy medicine. Just know that if you do use things that are mystic like healing energy there is a spiritual consequence. There are plently of natural cures without fearing you can't find one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 In a message dated 5/4/00 5:20:20 PM Central Daylight Time, rosydixon@... writes: << God helps those who help themselves. Long live diversity! Rosy Dixon >> Hi Rosy, this is not in the Bible, in fact it says in the Bible we can do nothing apart from God. If you believe this statement above, when does God actually have a say in your life. God is to be our center, source and His wisdom is available to those who ask Him. Of course, we cannot be reconcilled to God without accepting the free gift of Jesus Christ as our redeemer and savior and make Him Lord of our life. Without that connection their is no way to be reconcilled to God. I did not make that up, it is in God's word. We have to come to a decision. Do we believe God or Man. I know some say the Bible isn't by God, men wrote it. Men who were filled with God's Spirit and it is silly for us to think, God couldn't write His words because of men. God did not fail in gettings us His word and His word will not fail us. You all can put your chips back on your shoulders and realize that you don't have to believe, it is your choice, but don't get offended merely because the truth confonts you. Your offense should be the first clue that satan is behind the offense. Be blessed and chill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 In a message dated 5/5/00 9:41:33 AM Central Daylight Time, ygammil1@... writes: << JR, Rastus jokes are something that should have been buried with the advent of civil rights. You probably intended no offense, but I find such jokes extremely offensive. >> So many of you are so easily OFFENDED. What is the deal. Can't people think different without OFFENDED some one. Truly nothing you all believe offends me and you can share all you want, but don't expect me to lie to you when you share stuff that is totally contrary to the word of God. Just know that God loves you and if you would love yourself a LOT more then others won't offend you so easily. Just remember God loves you so much He Himself came and took all your sins upon Himself and gives you a free gift of Life and all you have to do is believe Him. Just read the Bible and see what He says about you. Lots of good things about you to read about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 , Thanks for your great letter. And thank you Gregary for your apology. Yes, we need to support each other here. I am dealing with my nephew (2 and 1/2) just being diagnosed with leukemia. A friend told me to come here so I did. Sometimes I forget how much cruelty their is in the world. I didn't expect to be reminded here, by people such as eat2. My religion and culture (Hindu) are often attacked. I just was caught off guard here, because I thought it would be more open minded people. Sena Re: [OT] Energy medicine> In a message dated 5/3/00 11:53:16 PM Central Daylight Time,> Cody@... writes:>> <<> We are hoping that you will continue to search on your journey for thetruth> and love that is true religion, and that you will reach full circle and> return fully justified to God the Father and Creator of us all. Don't beled> or influenced by any group or clique, but rather go your solo journey and> seek Him wherever love is in its truest form. You will know love and itwill> know you, and through this you will find God!> >>>> You know this full circle stuff is just more gobbledygook religion thathas> no real path to follow and everyone must seek their way to this pathblinded,> mute and dumb because there are no directions. It all is a scam of thedevil> appeasing the pride of man that somehow man can go full circle and earnhis> way to heaven. Lie and more lies. Nobody can do that, that is why Christ> came and became the sacrifice. All we have to do is believe God andreceive> Christ and we become born again and KNOW the way, not try to find itthough> some mystic thinking. Gads, I use to think like that and it is so dumb.> Jesus said I am the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE. If you haven't gone HIS> WAY, you are led astray to NO WAY but eternal death and destruction. Goddid> not it hard to come to Him. The way through Jesus is easy, FREE, Youdon't> have to earn it, you can't be good enough, but Jesus made a way throughHIM.> Don't be tricked through mystic full circle talk that is as clear as a mud> puddle. What does that mean, you have to find your own way. NOTHING. It> means nothing and there is NO OTHER WAY. I pray these words don't fallon> deaf ears Lord. In Jesus Name Amen>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------> *--- FREE VOICEMAIL FOR YOUR HOME PHONE! ---*> With eVoice Now you can keep in touch with clients, vendors, co-workers,> friends and family ANYTIME, ANYWHERE. Sign Up Today for FREE!> 1/3426/7/_/378/_/957452834/> ------------------------------------------------------------------------>> Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own linksthere. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups orby visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv>> Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 ...I thought I sent the " Rastus " story to Rosie. It wasn't meant for the site nor was any racial slur intended. (I see I sent one to Rosie about some Jews. So now some of the group will feel she's racist also). LIGHTEN UP. A joke is accepted in the manner and framework in which it is presented and usually gets just as good a reaction from a minority as anyone else, IF ITS A GOOD STORY. Best, JR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 , how can the fulfillment of all God's gifts be realized when MOST of 'his' (?) gifts are denied by so many? Perhaps 'fulfillment' has a meaning of some sort. Peace y'all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 You are so right . When I first heard it years ago it took place in Carolina not W. Virginia. I just updated it to a more backward area today. Thanks, JR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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