RE: Problems with Spatone

[Guest guest]

Hello

Liesha

Nobody

can tell how long it will take you to raise your ferritin. It depends on

many things, including what else you are doing to help raise your ferritin (see

the list of foods rich in iron below that you should be taking on a daily basis)

Spatone

is supposed to be the gentle way of taking iron and people often use it because

they don't like the effect that tablets such as Ferrous sulphate causes.

However, are you constipated at all - is there any bloating or distension? What

other medication are you taking beside T3 and Cortef. Have you had any gastric

problems in the past/

You

should be taking high doses of vitamin C (4/5000mgs) or take to bowel

tolerance, with any form of iron to help the body absorb iron. Yes, it is very

important that you do whatever you can to raise your ferritin level to

somewhere in the region of between 70 and 90, so you have a bit to go yet. You

should be eating foods rich in iron and the following may help, but remember, drinking tea with your

meal will reduce the amount of iron absorbed, so it is best to avoid it.

Instead, have a Vitamin C-rich drink such as fruit juice, or fortified

squashes. Also, if you are taking iron supplements it is important not to drink

milk, or eat a milk-based product (e.g. milk puddings), for an hour before or

after taking the tablets. This is because milk can interfere with the action of

the tablet. Iron is available from both the food groups shown below, but is

more easily absorbed from animal foods.

Animal Foods Rich in Iron

Eggs

- especially the yolk

Oily fish e.g. tuna, sardines, pilchards, cockles and mussels

Kidney, liver, heart

Lamb, game, beef

Black pudding, corned beef, faggots

Oxo, Bovril

Vegetable Foods Rich in Iron

Wholemeal

bread and flour

Iron-fortified cereals - Bran, Branflakes, Weetabix

Beans and pulses e.g. lentils, chick peas, haricot, kidney, pinto, baked,

butter, peas

Nuts - almonds, cashews, Brazils, walnuts

Dried fruit - apricots, figs, dates

Green vegetables - watercress, spinach

Rich fruit cake, gingerbread, ginger biscuits

Curry powder

Cocoa, chocolate, black treacle

Luv

- Sheila

I wonder if anyone has had problems taking Spatone? I've only been taking it

for a few days but each time I take it I get a really uncomfortable, heavy,

leaden feeling in my stomach(no jokes about it being iron, please?! ha ha). I

have tried taking it with food but it doesn't seem to make any difference.

Does anyone know how long it takes to increase the ferritin level sufficiently?

Sorry for so many questions but feeling pretty rubbish and frustrated right

now.

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You have surprised me that you are having trouble with Spatone. Are you mixing

it with something like orange juice, or just water?

I have tried the standard 14mg iron supplement and the spatone but neither

raised my levels, in fact it went down from 30+ to 19. I persuaded the GP for a

Ferrous Sulphate prescription for 3 months. I am approx half way into that and

at the end of July I have to have a blood test. One way or another I feel better

on it, my knees don't ache and I look a healthier colour!

I was concerned my stomach may have been troubled with the ferrous sulphate as I

had problems with the ordinary iron supplement, but it has been totally fine.

Despite warnings about constipation, that side of things is even improved, so

work that out ha-ha.

I will be interested to see if my improvement in the above symptoms relates to

the actual Ferritin result and if a full 3 months has been sufficient to

increase it or not.

What other iron supplements have you tried, or is Spatone the only one?

Fiona

[Guest guest]

Hi Fiona

Thanks for your reply. I haven't tried anything else, just Spatone, recommended

by Dr P. I actually did take it with O/Juice last night and it felt much better

than just with water.

I'm concerned to hear that your ferritin didn't increase with it, though, and

admit I'm a bit confused with the different iron stuff! In what way is what you

are taking now different to the Spatone? Would you recommend it instead of the

Spatone? I feel pretty rough at the moment and am maybe clutching at the straw

of iron but my ferritin was only 32 when tested a year ago so I thought it

couldn't do any harm.

How do you feel better on it, Fiona?

Love

Liesha

xx

>

> You have surprised me that you are having trouble with Spatone. Are you mixing

it with something like orange juice, or just water?

>

> I have tried the standard 14mg iron supplement and the spatone but neither

raised my levels, in fact it went down from 30+ to 19. I persuaded the GP for a

Ferrous Sulphate prescription for 3 months. I am approx half way into that and

at the end of July I have to have a blood test. One way or another I feel better

on it, my knees don't ache and I look a healthier colour!

>

> I was concerned my stomach may have been troubled with the ferrous sulphate as

I had problems with the ordinary iron supplement, but it has been totally fine.

Despite warnings about constipation, that side of things is even improved, so

work that out ha-ha.

>

> I will be interested to see if my improvement in the above symptoms relates to

the actual Ferritin result and if a full 3 months has been sufficient to

increase it or not.

>

> What other iron supplements have you tried, or is Spatone the only one?

>

> Fiona

>

[Guest guest]

> I'm concerned to hear that your ferritin didn't increase with it, though, and

admit I'm a bit confused with the different iron stuff! In what way is what you

are taking now different to the Spatone? Would you recommend it instead of the

Spatone? I feel pretty rough at the moment and am maybe clutching at the straw

of iron but my ferritin was only 32 when tested a year ago so I thought it

couldn't do any harm.

>

Hi Leisha

Ferrous Sulphate is proper potent elemental iron tablets and can be prescribed

by the GP or you can buy it in any pharmacy.

I didn't feel any different with or without Spatone or the standard 14mg iron

supplements.

BUT with Ferrous Sulphate, I soon noticed a difference in 3 ways:

[Guest guest]

Can you increase your dose of Spatone Liesha?

Luv - Sheila

Thanks for your reply. I haven't tried anything else, just Spatone, recommended

by Dr P. I actually did take it with O/Juice last night and it felt much better

than just with water.

I'm concerned to hear that your ferritin didn't increase with it, though, and

admit I'm a bit confused with the different iron stuff! In what way is what you

are taking now different to the Spatone? Would you recommend it instead of the

Spatone? I feel pretty rough at the moment and am maybe clutching at the straw

of iron but my ferritin was only 32 when tested a year ago so I thought it

couldn't do any harm.

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila

I could certainly try ! Last night I took it again with O/Juice & it felt fine.

What do you think I should increase it to?

Also, could you remind me, please - should I not take it within an hour, or is

it 4 hours, after T3? Sorry, I know this has probably been said many times

before but a message search hasn't come up with the info.

Thank you very much

Love

Liesha

xx

>

> Can you increase your dose of Spatone Liesha?

>

> Luv - Sheila

>

>

>

> Thanks for your reply. I haven't tried anything else, just Spatone,

> recommended by Dr P. I actually did take it with O/Juice last night and it

> felt much better than just with water.

>

> I'm concerned to hear that your ferritin didn't increase with it, though,

> and admit I'm a bit confused with the different iron stuff! In what way is

> what you are taking now different to the Spatone? Would you recommend it

> instead of the Spatone? I feel pretty rough at the moment and am maybe

> clutching at the straw of iron but my ferritin was only 32 when tested a

> year ago so I thought it couldn't do any harm.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Fiona

Did you miss a bit at the end of your message?

I feel like the programme's gone to a commercial break just on the cliffhanger

of how you improved in 3 ways.... !!!

Waiting with bated breath.......

Love

Liesha

xx

>

> > I'm concerned to hear that your ferritin didn't increase with it, though,

and admit I'm a bit confused with the different iron stuff! In what way is what

you are taking now different to the Spatone? Would you recommend it instead of

the Spatone? I feel pretty rough at the moment and am maybe clutching at the

straw of iron but my ferritin was only 32 when tested a year ago so I thought it

couldn't do any harm.

> >

> Hi Leisha

>

> Ferrous Sulphate is proper potent elemental iron tablets and can be prescribed

by the GP or you can buy it in any pharmacy.

>

> I didn't feel any different with or without Spatone or the standard 14mg iron

supplements.

>

> BUT with Ferrous Sulphate, I soon noticed a difference in 3 ways:

>

[Guest guest]

Read about Spatone here http://www.nelsonsnaturalworld.com/en-gb/uk/our-brands/spatone/spatone/how-to-take-spatone

and look at all the information. Never take any form of iron 3

to 4 hours anywhere near to taking thyroid hormones. They recommend one to two

sachets but up to 3 sachets for those pregnant. How much are you taking right

now, and are you taking it on an empty tummy?

luv - Sheila

I could certainly try ! Last night I took it again with O/Juice & it felt

fine.

What do you think I should increase it to?

Also, could you remind me, please - should I not take it within an hour, or is

it 4 hours, after T3? Sorry, I know this has probably been said many times

before but a message search hasn't come up with the info.

Thank you very much

[Guest guest]

Ooops - I am SO sorry. I was approving messages and I deleted

the rest of Fliss's message because I thought the top message (which was yours)

was the message I was approving and that Fliss's message was what you were

responding to. I am so used to reading messages with responses at the top of

the page. I have smacked my own hand, and sincerely hope Fliss will forgive me.

I remember the first point she made was that she had knee pains before starting

Ferrous Sulphate which got better and forgotten the rest. Boo Hoo!

Luv - Sheila

Hi Fiona

Did you miss a bit at the end of your message?

I feel like the programme's gone to a commercial break just on the cliffhanger

of how you improved in 3 ways.... !!!

Waiting with bated breath.......

Love

Liesha

xx

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Thanks for that link, Sheila.

I started Spatone 5 days ago and take one sachet in the evening, about an hour

or two after dinner. This is as far away from my T3 as I can get it.

I do find it a bit awkward though as, due to hypoglycaemia, I need to eat a

little something every 2 hours or so. But I will be careful with all the things

that affect absorbancy.

I think I will wait a couple of days to get my (sensitive) stomach used to it

and then increase to two sachets.

Love

Liesha

xx

>

> Read about Spatone here

> http://www.nelsonsnaturalworld.com/en-gb/uk/our-brands/spatone/spatone/how-t

> o-take-spatone

>

> and look at all the information. Never take any form of iron 3 to 4 hours

> anywhere near to taking thyroid hormones. They recommend one to two sachets

> but up to 3 sachets for those pregnant. How much are you taking right now,

> and are you taking it on an empty tummy?

>

> luv - Sheila

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> I could certainly try ! Last night I took it again with O/Juice & it felt

> fine.

>

> What do you think I should increase it to?

>

> Also, could you remind me, please - should I not take it within an hour, or

> is it 4 hours, after T3? Sorry, I know this has probably been said many

> times before but a message search hasn't come up with the info.

>

> Thank you very much

>

[Guest guest]

Don't worry, Sheila, though your apology did make me laugh !!

I'm hoping that perhaps Fiona may still reply, when she's able to?

Love

Liesha

xx

>

> Ooops - I am SO sorry. I was approving messages and I deleted the rest of

> Fliss's message because I thought the top message (which was yours) was the

> message I was approving and that Fliss's message was what you were

> responding to. I am so used to reading messages with responses at the top of

> the page. I have smacked my own hand, and sincerely hope Fliss will forgive

> me. I remember the first point she made was that she had knee pains before

> starting Ferrous Sulphate which got better and forgotten the rest. Boo Hoo!

>

> Luv - Sheila

>

> Hi Fiona

>

> Did you miss a bit at the end of your message?

>

> I feel like the programme's gone to a commercial break just on the

> cliffhanger of how you improved in 3 ways.... !!!

>

> Waiting with bated breath.......

>

> Love

> Liesha

> xx

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> Did you miss a bit at the end of your message?

>

Dunno what happened there, because I typed the three ways Ferrous Sulphate

helped LOL! Perhaps I deleted it, when I snipped the old message:

* Knees don't ache (had aching knees for a long time before)

* Look a healthier colour and people comment I look better (used to dismiss the

prison pallor as you don't get people whiter than me...)

* Feeling a bit better in myself (a bit subjective and incremental).

It is possible to take two Spatone a day, in fact I did this to use them up.

Making the assumption you take thyroid tablets first thing and noon, I take the

iron tablet with my dinner, and another one later on in the evening (didn't want

to risk two together for the stomach).

Fiona.

[Guest guest]

> I'm hoping that perhaps Fiona may still reply, when she's able to?

>

Already have Liesha LOL. At least that's cleared up as I thought I deleted the

crucial bit of info in a rush ha-ha.

Fiona.

[Guest guest]

Hi Fiona

The mystery of the missing message is solved LOL!

Thanks for that info, Fiona.

Just another quick question, if you don't mind - is there a certain dosage/type

or just any Ferrous Sulphate tablets that I should get?

I might think about buying them myself, otherwise I will have to stop the

Spatone, wait for appointment for a blood test, wait for results, see GP, etc

etc, you get the picture........!

Love

Liesha

xx

ps Sorry for not snipping before, Sheila, guilty as charged xx

> Dunno what happened there, because I typed the three ways Ferrous Sulphate

helped LOL! Perhaps I deleted it, when I snipped the old message:

> It is possible to take two Spatone a day, in fact I did this to use them up.

>

> Making the assumption you take thyroid tablets first thing and noon, I take

the iron tablet with my dinner, and another one later on in the evening (didn't

want to risk two together for the stomach).

>

> Fiona.

>

[Guest guest]

> Just another quick question, if you don't mind - is there a certain

dosage/type or just any Ferrous Sulphate tablets that I should get?

>

> I might think about buying them myself, otherwise I will have to stop the

Spatone, wait for appointment for a blood test, wait for results, see GP, etc

etc, you get the picture........!

>

Liesha. Please don't stop the Spatone supplements. Just explain that as advised

you have been taking an iron supplement but you are worried it's not doing the

job. Therefore you need a blood test in the here and now, with whatever iron you

are using, rather than none at all.

The GP told me to take two Ferrous Sulphate a day by the way.

Ferrous Sulphate are not expensive tablets approx £4-6 per pot of 100. However

if you have medical exemption certificate due to thyroid it makes sense to try

and get it prescribed, you know on principle...

Fiona

[Guest guest]

Hi Fiona

Thanks very much for all your help - I really appreciate it.

I'm not really sure what I'll do but I'll still keep taking the Spatone at the

moment anyway. (I've increased to 2 sachets today.)

I mentioned Ferrous Sulphate tablets in passing, whilst on the phone to Dr P

today and he thinks I am a bit mad to consider taking the tablets instead of

Spatone as the absorpancy is so much better with the Spatone but said it was up

to me, he didn't mind, whatever makes me feel better.

Thanks again

Love

Liesha

xx

> Liesha. Please don't stop the Spatone supplements. Just explain that as

advised you have been taking an iron supplement but you are worried it's not

doing the job. Therefore you need a blood test in the here and now, with

whatever iron you are using, rather than none at all.

> Fiona