Guest guest Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 Here's a link to Thyroid UK's reply to an article that appeared in Pulse magazine: http://www.thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/pages/documents/Response%20to%20Pulse%20Magazine\ %2016.6.10..pdf I can't find the article on line (don't know if anyone else can?) but from the reply it seems that Toft thinks only a few of us can't get better on T4 only and that dessicated thyroid is bad ***t, with all the usual excuses - inconsistant from batch to batch ect. grrr... And I always thought Toft was one of the " goodies " :0( Louise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 Hi Louise, Lyn has put together an excellent letter and I hope that Toft takes note. I can never quite get the measure of this guy, he is well known for changing his mind in the past, seems he is still having difficulty. I will, however, send him a copy of my response to the BTA's Statement on Armour Thyroid as he obviously has not yet got around to reading it, even though I sent it to him in 2008. All his comments have been taken care of in my response and I cited over 148 references to the medical evidence. I was not aware of the survey carried out by Thyroid UK though. I was only aware of the Hypothyroid Patient Survey carried out by TPA in 2005/2006. It would be great to have the results of this survey so we can use them in our campaigns to bring about changes in the diagnosis and treatment of hypothyroidism too. Has anybody got access to this please and will you let me have a copy. Luv - Sheila Here's a link to Thyroid UK's reply to an article that appeared in Pulse magazine: http://www.thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/pages/documents/Response%20to%20Pulse%20Magazine%2016.6.10..pdf I can't find the article on line (don't know if anyone else can?) but from the reply it seems that Toft thinks only a few of us can't get better on T4 only and that desiccated thyroid is bad ***t, with all the usual excuses - inconsistant from batch to batch ect. grrr... And I always thought Toft was one of the " goodies " :0( Louise. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2942 - Release Date: 06/17/10 18:35:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 This link should find the article by Dr.Toft: http://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=50 & storycode=4126143 & cid=clini\ cal_1 It seems with the passing years he is gradually accepting the BTA line..... Ginny B > > Here's a link to Thyroid UK's reply to an article that appeared in Pulse magazine: > > http://www.thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/pages/documents/Response%20to%20Pulse%20Magazine\ %2016.6.10..pdf > > I can't find the article on line (don't know if anyone else can?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Perhaps Toft would like to think for himself but he's been " got at " :0( I hadn't realised that Thyroid UK had done a thyroid medication survey either until the other day. Recently the've started having " the big question " . A tab at the side of the home page takes you too it; this month they're asking " At what age were you diagnosed (on the NHS) " ; it shows the percentages after you vote. Louise. > > Hi Louise, Lyn has put together an excellent letter and I hope that Toft > takes note. > > I can never quite get the measure of this guy, he is well known for changing > his mind in the past, seems he is still having difficulty. I will, however, > send him a copy of my response to the BTA's Statement on Armour Thyroid as > he obviously has not yet got around to reading it, even though I sent it to > him in 2008. All his comments have been taken care of in my response and I > cited over 148 references to the medical evidence. > > I was not aware of the survey carried out by Thyroid UK though. I was only > aware of the Hypothyroid Patient Survey carried out by TPA in 2005/2006. It > would be great to have the results of this survey so we can use them in our > campaigns to bring about changes in the diagnosis and treatment of > hypothyroidism too. Has anybody got access to this please and will you let > me have a copy. > > Luv - Sheila > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 I only wish he would stop quoting from information given by the British Thyroid Association's various statements which they never ever backed up with references to the scientific evidence, even though they have been asked to produce this so many, many times. It is quite appalling. As he was President of the BTA at one time, perhaps we can thank him also for putting us all in such an mess. Yet, he does agree that some patients need T3 - which goes completely against the Royal College of Physicians and the BTA's latest guidance. Luv - Sheila This link should find the article by Dr.Toft: http://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=50 & storycode=4126143 & cid=clinical_1 It seems with the passing years he is gradually accepting the BTA line..... Ginny B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 I only wish he would stop quoting from information given by the British Thyroid Association's various statements which they never ever backed up with references to the scientific evidence, even though they have been asked to produce this so many, many times. It is quite appalling. As he was President of the BTA at one time, perhaps we can thank him also for putting us all in such an mess. Yet, he does agree that some patients need T3 - which goes completely against the Royal College of Physicians and the BTA's latest guidance. Luv - Sheila This link should find the article by Dr.Toft: http://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=50 & storycode=4126143 & cid=clinical_1 It seems with the passing years he is gradually accepting the BTA line..... Ginny B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 I can never see any real benefit that come from online surveys where you just click a button of your choice - people can go back at any time and click a completely different button as they are not password or email protected. I am not so trusting that I believe people only ever go and click one button ONCE. Perhaps I am just a big cynic, but then, I have been well trained. Is this how the Thyroid UK survey was carried out that Lyn mentions in her response to Toft I wonder? Luv - Sheila Perhaps Toft would like to think for himself but he's been " got at " :0( I hadn't realised that Thyroid UK had done a thyroid medication survey either until the other day. Recently the've started having " the big question " . A tab at the side of the home page takes you too it; this month they're asking " At what age were you diagnosed (on the NHS) " ; it shows the percentages after you vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 I wondered how useful it is but I think this feature is being run by a firm/website called Health unlocked. It's a fairly new feature (only been on the site for a few weeks) and, in Lynne Mynott's reply to the Toft article, it says their medication survey was carried out in 2008, so I don't think it could have been done this way. Louise. > > I can never see any real benefit that come from online surveys where you > just click a button of your choice - people can go back at any time and > click a completely different button as they are not password or email > protected. I am not so trusting that I believe people only ever go and click > one button ONCE. Perhaps I am just a big cynic, but then, I have been well > trained. > > Is this how the Thyroid UK survey was carried out that Lyn mentions in her > response to Toft I wonder? > > Luv - Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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