Re: Adrenal Saliva Results

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Hi Garry

sorry you've suffered so long with these symptoms. it would probably be worth

posting your results to the adrenal to get their input on them:

NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/messages

What was the genova interpretation at the end of the tests?

I'm no expert but maybe lack of cortisol is stopping your thyroid hormones being

utilised properly by your body. Both your Free t3 results are high end normal

or slightly over it (for the first)? Are you on any thyroid meds?

Are you able to consult any specialists like Dr Peatfield or Dr Skinner or Dr

Myhill, or are you self treating?

Chris

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> Hi everyone,

>

> I'm 21 years old, diagnosed with M.E. at age eleven.

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Hi thanks for the reply, I need my bed just now so will fully reply tommorow but

will quickly say I am on no thyroid / adrenal medications. The end of the genova

test results said:

''The noon cortisol level is below the normal range. Noon cortisol levels may be

a good indication of

adaptive adrenal gland function since they represent the adrenal glands'

response to the demands of the

first few hours of the day. Low noon cortisol levels suggest a degree of adrenal

hypofunction with

decreased adaptive response.''

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I'm 21 years old, diagnosed with M.E. at age eleven.

>

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Hi Garry, your adrenals are showing levels that are very low in

the reference range. Your cortisol level in the morning should be at its

highest to get you through the day, yet is at the bottom of the range., midday

it is way outside the bottom of the range, 4.00p.m. at the bottom of the range,

and the only reading where it looks OK is at midnight. You need to start to

support your adrenals to get them functioning well enough to make all your

other glands secreting hormones work properly too. Go to our web site www.tpa-uk.org.uk and click on 'Hypothyroidism'

and then click on 'Associated Conditions' in the drop down Menu, and click then

on 'Adrenals'. Read all the other information too.

We usually recommend starting using Nutri Adrenal Extra which

you can buy direct from Nutri Ltd. and who give TPA members a 33% discount. You

can find this info. in the FILES section which you can access from the Home

Page of this forum web site.

Your TSH is too high and needs watching. Are you taking other

supplements such as Selenium, Vitamin C?

Luv - Sheila

Thyroid (25/11/09):

TSH (Range 0.5 - 3.9) 2.19

Free T4 (Range 10 - 19) 15

Free T3 (Range 3.3 - 5.2) 5.26

Thyroid (20/01/10):

TSH (Range 0.5 - 3.9) 2.62

Free T4 (Range 10 - 19) 17

Free T3 (Range 3.3 - 5.2) 4.85

Adrenal Results:

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/7291/cortisol.jpg

I hope everyone can see the picture of the adrenal results I have received

today?

Any advice would be much appreciated

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I have actually been on hydrocortisone before (for around a year) at the 20-30mg

dose. I orginally was prescribed it to help with my fatigue/weakness but it

never helped, so I came off it a few months ago now to find all my cold symptoms

/ temperature problems back (so it must have been helping with that side of

things). My adrenal saliva test that was done before starting HC was almost

identical to the results I have on my recent rest.

I am worried about going on such a dose again of hydrocortisone, would around

10mg still be worth trying? 5mg morning / 5mg afternoon.

I have some tubs of Allergy Research Group Adrenal Natural Glandular, would that

work as well as Nutri?

I feel whatever my main problem is, I push ALOT - so my adrenals are getting

whacked too, even if it isn't my main problem.

Supplements I take also includes vitamin c, b-complex, multi mineral

>

> Hi Garry, your adrenals are showing levels that are very low in the

> reference range. Your cortisol level in the morning should be at its highest

> to get you through the day, yet is at the bottom of the range., midday it is

> way outside the bottom of the range, 4.00p.m. at the bottom of the range,

> and the only reading where it looks OK is at midnight.

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Hi Garry, Your thyroid results are lower that I'd like to see- TSh for around 90% of healthy folk is 1.0 and the FT4 is on the low side too. the top if the range for Ft4 is also low- I've seen range go up to 24 so this may be making your results look better than they are. so far you seem to be converting T4 to T3 ok, but with a low atarting FT4 then this will cause more problems if there is less T4 to convert to T3. Having had a look at your adrenal results they show a typical patern of exhautions which is not surprising seeing how long you have been ill. > thyroid treatment > From: gaz2uk@...> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:24:42 +0000> Subject: Adrenal Saliva Results> > Hi everyone,> > Fatigue> Weakness> > Thyroid (25/11/09):> TSH (Range 0.5 - 3.9) 2.19> Free T4 (Range 10 - 19) 15> Free T3 (Range 3.3 - 5.2) 5.26> > > > Thyroid (20/01/10):> TSH (Range 0.5 - 3.9) 2.62> Free T4 (Range 10 - 19) 17> Free T3 (Range 3.3 - 5.2) 4.85> > > Adrenal Results:> http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/7291/cortisol.jpg> > I hope everyone can see the picture of the adrenal results I have received today?> > Any advice would be much appreciated> > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> >

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I am quite skinny, can I still be low on thyroid if this is the case?

I really don't want to lose anymore weight going on thyroid meds. Maybe its the

adrenals / stress on my body keeping me from gaining weight?...

I have actually been on thyroid medications before, at one point it made me MUCH

better (but not for long) I had to keep upping the dose and then went

hyperthyroid. This was armour thyroid.

My temperatures are constantly low.

I have a reverse T3 result from a while back which I will try to find, also I

would like to post up some older full thyroid results done with genova to look

at (again while not being on any thyroid meds).

If anyone is unable to view the scanned results please let me know and I will

write them out

IWDL Thyroid (15/05/2009):

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9148/thyroid.jpg

Reverse T3 Result (15/05/2009) Done with the test above:

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4951/reverset3.jpg

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***I've been prescribed prednisone 2mg per day. As far as I can tell this isequivalent of 8mg hydrocortisone is that correct?How long does it last in the system? If I take it in the morning will it lastthrough to the evening? or best to take at dinner time at my lowest point?

Hello Garry,

Yes, that is correct - 2 mg Preds = 8 mg HC..... Don't underestimate the low dosage; it sounds miniscule, but it will have a positive effect on your adrenals all the same. Preds work a little differently from HC in that they are first stored in the body and used up as needed (whereas HC gets used up straight away). 2 mg is an excellent starting dose, and there is scope for an increase, if needed. The best way to take Preds is in the mornings (with food). This follows best the natural main cortisol production, which happens during the night. If you were to take Preds at dinner time, it might keep you awake half the night. - And yes, Preds remain active in the body for about 24 hours.

Best wishes,

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Hi,

Sorry I have taken ages to reply, been really ill recently.

The 2mg Prednisone was prescribed by a private doctor, but I don't see him

increasing it.

If I was to go ahead treating myself I could obviously change the dose as

needed. Would upping my Prednisone or going on Hydrocostisone be a better

choice? Which medication do most do better with?