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Walt,

I REALLY like this one. I believe we all create our own paths as

a direct result of the choices we make, and more often than not,

people forget about their CHOICES. Thank you for reminding us

of that.

Peace,

Jami

> Until a person can say deeply and honestly, I am what I am

today

> because of the choices I made yesterday that person cannot

say, I choose

> otherwise. The degree to which we have developed our

independent will in

> our everyday lives is measured by our personal integrity.

Integrity is,

> fundamentally, the value we place on ourselves, It's our ability

to make

> and keep commitments to ourselves, to " walk our talk. " It's

honor with

> self, a fundamental part of the Character Ethic, and the

essence of

> proactive growth. Rather than focusing on things and time,

focus on

> preserving and enhancing relationships and accomplishing

results.

>

> God Bless and Keep Your Visions Champions!

>

> One Team One Dream

>

> Walt : ))

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Hey Kit, It's really to be easy to be critical of ourselves too so go easy.

Sometimes when I have something I feel I need to overcome, instead of trying

to conquer it (which can seem like such an uphill struggle), I change what I

choose to focus on (which seems more like a fun exercise to me). Sometimes a

mental shift can make more difference than another bench press. All the

best, Leaner.

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Hank always reminds me to follow my dreams and the rest will fall into place.

After all, he works for NASA. I don't think I can rebutt that. =)

Dreams....Follow your dreams....

I quote Dr. Suess: " Oh, the places you will go! "

Much Love to all,

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That's what I'm saying. I encourage everyone to make your transformation a group

effort. Take advantage of all that is offered here on the group, get a coach,

write to Champions, call EAS for help, ask for help when you need a spotter in

the gym if you are training alone, etc. You WILL be better results when you

make it a team effort.

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That's what I'm saying. I encourage everyone to make your transformation a group

effort. Take advantage of all that is offered here on the group, get a coach,

write to Champions, call EAS for help, ask for help when you need a spotter in

the gym if you are training alone, etc. You WILL be better results when you

make it a team effort.

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Walt: This is so true of many things- procratinating then craming-

I like that analogy, I fully understand it since I was raised on a

cattle ranch in Idaho. Boy it also increases your stress level when

you don't plan. Thanks Walt for always giving us something to

think about and put into action. Taz

> Its funny how people know that an event is coming in their life

and

> they don't prepare or do what is necessary to meet it. Did you ever

> consider how ridiculous it would be to try to cram on a farm, to

forget

> to plant in the spring, relax all summer and then cram in the fall

to

> bring in the harvest? The farm like our bodies is a natural system.

The

> price must be paid and the process followed. You always reap what

you

> sow; There are no shortcuts. What kind of harvest will you have this

> year?

>

> God Bless and Share Your Vision Champions!

>

> Walt : ))

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In a message dated 19-May-00 12:10:39 Eastern Daylight Time,

angelo.bell@... writes:

<< (Can't wait to see that tatoo girrrrrrlll!) >>

na-na-na-NO....NO tattoo....

*piercing*...they're gonna stick a thick needle through the top skin of my

navel, stick a cork on the other end and then stick a ring of stainless steel

through the hole once they remove the needle

=) sound like fun huh?

-Nic'ster

" Golden Girl " aka " Bond Girl "

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In a message dated 19-May-00 21:29:52 Eastern Daylight Time, hoops@...

writes:

<< " After you get to a certain

age, you just eat whatever you want and you don't care. Why put your body

through all that? >>

I want to say I heard this from Walt at some point in his daily " Thoughts "

emails..but anyway...it's goes something like that people criticize you

and/or tell you " you can't do it " because they are either afraid that they

can't do it themselves or they're afraid that YOU WILL achieve your goals.

Things that make ya go hmmmmmmm.....

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> *piercing*...they're gonna stick a thick needle through the top skin of my

> navel, stick a cork on the other end and then stick a ring of stainless

steel

> through the hole once they remove the needle

>

> =) sound like fun huh?

>

> -Nic'ster

> " Golden Girl " aka " Bond Girl "

Hey ,

If you are going to get your navel pierced it is very important that you get

a curved barbell, not a ring. The curved barbell will completely

epithelialize in about three months, whereas the ring will take six to nine

months or longer. The ring is also much more likely to cause migration

and/or keloid scarring due to its sticking out of your navel like a " Chatty

" pull-string ring. If you really want the look of a ring, wait four

months after the barbell piercing and have it changed. By that time the

piercing will be stable and the ring will not be too irritating.

Call around and find a shop that recommends the curved barbell for your

initial navel piercing. If they try to talk you into a ring first, run,

don't walk, away from them. Also, make sure that they are using 14 gauge

jewelry, usually in a 3/8 " length, with internal threading the preference of

professional shops. If you live in a small town, you might want to just

wait. Most states have no legislation protecting the public from hacks, and

there is such a demand for piercing that even bad piercers can stay in

business. Do your homework. Or come visit me...

Lonn

Hoops Body Arts

Kennewick, WA

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Gloria,

I'm behind you 110% any thing I can do to help just ask. You have what

it takes to win inside you just let it out. See ya this weekend.

Walt : ))

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Dear Cliff, do you know that a study in Canada showed that 30 to 45 % of

prostatecancer doesn't need any treatment? If people wait and see they don't

die of the prostatecancer but of someting else, f.i. just because they get

old etc. I have a speech of a wellknown urologist at my site in Dutch but I

thought it has once been in english in this group. I will look tomorrow for

the article and studies.

So if people takes some fo/cc and some vitamin E then they will get old

probably.

Gr. Kees braam

webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl

Thoughts

> HI,

>

> In my own expereinces over the last eleven years, and especially the last

> two, I am beginning to wonder about some things.

>

> Yesterday a man was here who has a PSA of 12. He is a veteran and working

> through a VA hospital. He does not know his gleason score. He is 67.

>

> There has been no treatment, just watchful waiting.

>

> He has used FO/CC for about two years. During that period of time his PSA

> has gone up at the rate of 2 points every 6 months. The doctor at the VA

> hospital says that next time he may give him a shot.

>

> One of the attributes of the Flaxseed oil is the inhibition of metastasis.

> What is now in his mind, is that he will take one 28 day shot of Lupron,

or

> a better hormone blocker, [i haven't kept up with this too much] and see

how

> far it knocks the PSA down.

>

> One 28 day shot after eleven months took mine from 23 to 7.8 with a quite

> aggressive PCa, along with FO/CC and Beta Glucan with high vitamin C and

in

> spite of getting quite careless with diet. My wife hates to make menus

and

> I give up and eat meat and things. I try to cut down on sugar.

>

> If his comes down as much as should be expected, he will quit it and stay

> with the flax oil.

>

> Maybe a couple of years later he will take another shot. My Oncologist

> feels as though he could keep that up through a normal life time.

>

> If I could turn back the clock to 1991 knowing what I know now, I believe

I

> would have tried that route myself. Along with other alternative

approaches

> of which I am becoming aware, I should be able to beat this thing, even

with

> an initial dx of Advanced PCa and a rather dire expectation on the part of

> the doctor.

>

> It appears that I am beating it anyway, though I did feel a need to use a

> touch of standard treatment recently. With a few things I know about now

> but haven't tried, I might have been able to avoid even that.

>

> Of course, with 31, at least, different strains of PCa each situation is a

> little different. However, most are not as aggressive as mine is, and

mine

> may be even more aggressive after eleven years. There is no way to know

> without a Biopsy which I am not going to do or a trip somewhere for a

> doppler which I am not going to pay for.

>

> Cliff

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there.

Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by

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>

>

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My own father at 80 years of age had early prostate cancer and was told he would

die of other causes. However, he had urinary problems which disturbed him He

was open-minded and took my suggestions. He used my zapper and purchased one of

my magnetic sleep pads. Seven weeks after this, all his urinary problems had

disappeared and 5 years later, he has no urinary problems and his PSA had not

elevated at the last check two years ago and his health is better today than

five years ago.

A physician in Texas had a PSA of 286. Taking Aloe Immune and sleeping on a

unified negative sleep pad the same as my fathers', his PSA went to normal in

four months.

Kallie

Kallie

http://www.4optimallife.com

Re: Thoughts

Dear Cliff, do you know that a study in Canada showed that 30 to 45 % of

prostatecancer doesn't need any treatment? If people wait and see they don't

die of the prostatecancer but of something else, f.i. just because they get

old etc. I have a speech of a wellknown urologist at my site in Dutch but I

thought it has once been in english in this group. I will look tomorrow for

the article and studies.

So if people takes some fo/cc and some vitamin E then they will get old

probably.

Gr. Kees braam

webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl

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Beautiful testimony on your dad!

How your Aloe Immune compare in effectiveness to the one

below?

http://www.shopamproducts.com/natalimfor32.html

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>My own father at 80 years of age had early prostate cancer and

>was told he would die of other causes. However, he had urinary

>problems which disturbed him He was open-minded and took my

>suggestions. He used my zapper and purchased one of my

>magnetic sleep pads. Seven weeks after this, all his urinary

>problems had disappeared and 5 years later, he has no urinary

>problems and his PSA had not elevated at the last check two

>years ago and his health is better today than five years ago.

>

>A physician in Texas had a PSA of 286. Taking Aloe Immune and

>sleeping on a unified negative sleep pad the same as my

>fathers', his PSA went to normal in four months.

>

>Kallie

>Kallie

>http://www.4optimallife.com

>

> Re: Thoughts

>

>

> Dear Cliff, do you know that a study in Canada showed that 30 to 45 % of

> prostatecancer doesn't need any treatment? If people wait and see they don't

> die of the prostatecancer but of something else, f.i. just because they get

> old etc. I have a speech of a wellknown urologist at my site in Dutch but I

> thought it has once been in english in this group. I will look tomorrow for

> the article and studies.

>

> So if people takes some fo/cc and some vitamin E then they will get old

> probably.

>

> Gr. Kees braam

> webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dx 8/00-psa 190, age 58 at Dx, botched Gleason, multiple bone mets,

Lupron-Casodex psa 0.7, switched to pc spes for 5 months, psa 16, lup/cas

failed, Zoladex-Flutamide, psa on steady rise to 55 early 1/02, 10 days

later psa 2.7, AP 130 and Testosterone 0.47 (on scale of 3 to 10) on

Nizoral-estrogen.

Hello Kallie and or Joyce, I've been drinking large quantities of aloe vera

juice for the past several months in hopes that my prostate cancer could

possibly be nothing more than internal fungus and treatable as a skin

disease. Of course, I'm on this other stuff mentioned above. What is Aloe

Immune? I read about a clinic near Tampa that was using a form of aloe for

close to death cancer people who were all in remission. They were closed

down by the FDA. Anybody know anything about how a cancer victim can get

ahold of this product? Thanks, Pat in Mexico

Re: Thoughts

> >

> >

> > Dear Cliff, do you know that a study in Canada showed that 30 to 45 %

of

> > prostatecancer doesn't need any treatment? If people wait and see they

don't

> > die of the prostatecancer but of something else, f.i. just because they

get

> > old etc. I have a speech of a wellknown urologist at my site in Dutch

but I

> > thought it has once been in english in this group. I will look tomorrow

for

> > the article and studies.

> >

> > So if people takes some fo/cc and some vitamin E then they will get old

> > probably.

> >

> > Gr. Kees braam

> > webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Wow, I'm finally getting my e-mails now. It must be working. :-)

>>nne,

My thoughts and prayers are with you. One of the saddest days was when my

'gramma' passed.

Jeanine<<

Thank you, Jeanine. I really appreciate your good thoughts and wishes ~ we

really need them. It will be a rough trip to Indiana, but it will be good to

be with family. I'll talk to you guys when we get back.

~nne

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Oops, I meant stimulation of the right over the left.

-- In @y..., " P. Dal Cerro, Ph.D. "

<gauge2_99@y...> wrote:

> I just had some thoughts I wanted to share on the process.

>

> I remember a classmate in graduate neuropsych saying right before a

> test that she felt like she shouldn't have to study for the test,

> that it seemed like the different parts of the brain should just be

> able to indicate to her during the test what they were and what

they

> did. The subtext of course was that, at least for us, the info was

> dry as dirt and hard to keep a hold of.

>

> Recently I recieved a copy of " Mapping the Mind " by Rita , a

> great (perhaps slightly dated and with no references to NF) book

> on " the new phrenology " or things we know about the brain and

> consciousness.

>

> I also have a 9 month-old-baby in the house, my first. It is really

> great to look through the book, see images of different areas of

the

> brain as they are associated with behavior and emotional states

etc,

> then watch those areas go 'online' as the baby reaches that

> particular stage of brain development. For example, the book

> discusses the relationship between the pariatal lobes and

> consciousness of spatial relationships, awareness of how oneself

and

> others fit into space, and continue to exist in time even when not

> visible. Right on schedule the baby becomes captivated by peek a

boo

> and hide and seek games.

>

> More personally the book discusses the relationship between the

> hemisperes and emotions, cognition and behavior, and the author

> reports that optimism and rationality belong more to the left side

> while pessimism and emotionality are right side and that in cases

of

> left brain damage " the brain can no longer keep the right brain

> subjugated, so the right hemisphere floods consciousness with its

own

> miserable view of life. "

>

> Several months ago I had the experience of increasing alpha on the

> left (while inhibiting hibeta. I was doing the F1/right mastoid

Tone

> training) and it triggered the effect described above, meaning, I

> think now, that the net effect was an overstimulation of the left

> hemisphere over the right, resulting in a state of consciousness as

> negative, though somehow more sober, as I have ever experienced.

(I'm

> pretty sure had I triggered this reaction when first starting out

and

> uninformed of the cuase and effect relationships involved, it would

> have put me off NF). Long story short, being able to experiement

with

> these different brain/consciousness effects has been the most

> interesting thing I've been exposed to yet in the field. For what

its

> worth.

>

> SDC

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Steve,

Thanks for these thoughts. It is pretty amazing, the more you understand

the little we know about how things work, to begin to be able to see them

actually peeking through our daily experience. Certainly no longer as dry

as a graduate course!

Re your training effect:

The protocol you were using should have been Right Mastoid Crease/Fp1 (not

F1). That specifically works because it picks up activity in the

hippocampus, the cingulate and the orbitofrontal cortex. It is down below

the frontal lobe, so I can say that (if your post was a typo, not a

" place-o " ) I haven't ever seen this reaction before. You should ordinarily

be using SMR as your reward and theta as your inhibit in this

protocol--focusing on the SMR side.

Increasing alpha on the left would have the effect of UNDER-stimulating the

left side (turning off the activity), which would result in a shift in the

balance toward the right. Usually a quick beta session at F3 would reverse

this.

Thanks for sharing this experience.

Pete

Thoughts

I just had some thoughts I wanted to share on the process.

I remember a classmate in graduate neuropsych saying right before a

test that she felt like she shouldn't have to study for the test,

that it seemed like the different parts of the brain should just be

able to indicate to her during the test what they were and what they

did. The subtext of course was that, at least for us, the info was

dry as dirt and hard to keep a hold of.

Recently I recieved a copy of " Mapping the Mind " by Rita , a

great (perhaps slightly dated and with no references to NF) book

on " the new phrenology " or things we know about the brain and

consciousness.

I also have a 9 month-old-baby in the house, my first. It is really

great to look through the book, see images of different areas of the

brain as they are associated with behavior and emotional states etc,

then watch those areas go 'online' as the baby reaches that

particular stage of brain development. For example, the book

discusses the relationship between the pariatal lobes and

consciousness of spatial relationships, awareness of how oneself and

others fit into space, and continue to exist in time even when not

visible. Right on schedule the baby becomes captivated by peek a boo

and hide and seek games.

More personally the book discusses the relationship between the

hemisperes and emotions, cognition and behavior, and the author

reports that optimism and rationality belong more to the left side

while pessimism and emotionality are right side and that in cases of

left brain damage " the brain can no longer keep the right brain

subjugated, so the right hemisphere floods consciousness with its own

miserable view of life. "

Several months ago I had the experience of increasing alpha on the

left (while inhibiting hibeta. I was doing the F1/right mastoid Tone

training) and it triggered the effect described above, meaning, I

think now, that the net effect was an overstimulation of the left

hemisphere over the right, resulting in a state of consciousness as

negative, though somehow more sober, as I have ever experienced. (I'm

pretty sure had I triggered this reaction when first starting out and

uninformed of the cuase and effect relationships involved, it would

have put me off NF). Long story short, being able to experiement with

these different brain/consciousness effects has been the most

interesting thing I've been exposed to yet in the field. For what its

worth.

SDC

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Pete;

Thanks for the clarifications. I was pretty sure based on the

effects that I had mucked the thing up. Your right, I was at F1

though I can't remember why. And I was augmenting Alpha rather than

SMR, probably becuase SMR at T3/T 4 had proved to be stimulating

rather than calming. I'm going to go back at it after some additional

C4/SMR, which I have recently resumed.

Does anyone else notice that their 'Wing Command' program begins

to deteriorate after about 20 minutes?

SDC

> Steve,

>

> Thanks for these thoughts. It is pretty amazing, the more you

understand

> the little we know about how things work, to begin to be able to

see them

> actually peeking through our daily experience. Certainly no longer

as dry

> as a graduate course!

>

> Re your training effect:

>

> The protocol you were using should have been Right Mastoid

Crease/Fp1 (not

> F1). That specifically works because it picks up activity in the

> hippocampus, the cingulate and the orbitofrontal cortex. It is

down below

> the frontal lobe, so I can say that (if your post was a typo, not a

> " place-o " ) I haven't ever seen this reaction before. You should

ordinarily

> be using SMR as your reward and theta as your inhibit in this

> protocol--focusing on the SMR side.

>

> Increasing alpha on the left would have the effect of UNDER-

stimulating the

> left side (turning off the activity), which would result in a shift

in the

> balance toward the right. Usually a quick beta session at F3 would

reverse

> this.

>

> Thanks for sharing this experience.

>

> Pete

> Thoughts

>

>

> I just had some thoughts I wanted to share on the process.

>

> I remember a classmate in graduate neuropsych saying right before

a

> test that she felt like she shouldn't have to study for the test,

> that it seemed like the different parts of the brain should just

be

> able to indicate to her during the test what they were and what

they

> did. The subtext of course was that, at least for us, the info was

> dry as dirt and hard to keep a hold of.

>

> Recently I recieved a copy of " Mapping the Mind " by Rita , a

> great (perhaps slightly dated and with no references to NF) book

> on " the new phrenology " or things we know about the brain and

> consciousness.

>

> I also have a 9 month-old-baby in the house, my first. It is

really

> great to look through the book, see images of different areas of

the

> brain as they are associated with behavior and emotional states

etc,

> then watch those areas go 'online' as the baby reaches that

> particular stage of brain development. For example, the book

> discusses the relationship between the pariatal lobes and

> consciousness of spatial relationships, awareness of how oneself

and

> others fit into space, and continue to exist in time even when not

> visible. Right on schedule the baby becomes captivated by peek a

boo

> and hide and seek games.

>

> More personally the book discusses the relationship between the

> hemisperes and emotions, cognition and behavior, and the author

> reports that optimism and rationality belong more to the left side

> while pessimism and emotionality are right side and that in cases

of

> left brain damage " the brain can no longer keep the right brain

> subjugated, so the right hemisphere floods consciousness with its

own

> miserable view of life. "

>

> Several months ago I had the experience of increasing alpha on the

> left (while inhibiting hibeta. I was doing the F1/right mastoid

Tone

> training) and it triggered the effect described above, meaning, I

> think now, that the net effect was an overstimulation of the left

> hemisphere over the right, resulting in a state of consciousness

as

> negative, though somehow more sober, as I have ever experienced.

(I'm

> pretty sure had I triggered this reaction when first starting out

and

> uninformed of the cuase and effect relationships involved, it

would

> have put me off NF). Long story short, being able to experiement

with

> these different brain/consciousness effects has been the most

> interesting thing I've been exposed to yet in the field. For what

its

> worth.

>

> SDC

>

>

>

>

>

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Hello lilac_blossom_lady@...,

In reference to your comment:

What is it about this Group that stimulates all this love and concern for people I have never met; people who to me are words written on my computer screen?

Ann, we're a family didn't you know?

Love,

Your Aunt Maggie

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I am soooo happy that someone really listens to me I need the listening more then anything right now Not much with words but hope you guys understand Hey stop and smell the roses cause life is to short

-- Thoughts

I woke up this morning and my first thoughts were of and , Steve and Jimmy, Stefan and .

What is it about this Group that stimulates all this love and concern for people I have never met; people who to me are words written on my computer screen?

I cannot understand it, but know that it is real.

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