Too much iodine?

[Guest guest]

There are some taking doses as high as 225 mgs (when they have cancer). I have taken 125 mgs. There doesn't seem to be a standard and no one really knows if there is a limit. What usually is occurring in the issues you described is an adrenal stressor due to increased metabolic rate.

Too much iodine?

Hello,How does one not overdose on iodine? There are plenty of people who have made themselves worse by taking too much. I have taken iodide drops, conservatively, and noticed that my pulse and temperature goes up. My temps went to 99.0, however. My pulse went closer to 85, which is a good thing.I'm also wondering why there aren't warnings with every recommendation for what to look for in case one needs to cut down or stop?Thanks,Joan

[Guest guest]

I wonder what the warnings would be? maybe just not feeling well? I

feel that iodine is very safe and I take 100mg Iodoral per day. I am a

small person too.

gracia

Joan Lulich wrote:

>

>

> Hello,

>

> How does one not overdose on iodine? There are plenty of people who

> have made themselves worse by taking too much.

>

> I have taken iodide drops, conservatively, and noticed that my pulse

> and temperature goes up. My temps went to 99.0, however. My pulse went

> closer to 85, which is a good thing.

>

> I'm also wondering why there aren't warnings with every recommendation

> for what to look for in case one needs to cut down or stop?

>

> Thanks,

> Joan

>

>

[Guest guest]

Has anyone in the group had symptoms like this from taking too much iodine?

- Electric type feeling going through the center of the body (an internal

quivering feeling)

- Muscle weakness

- Eye sensitivity and strain

- Shortness of breath

- Headaches

I appreciate any feedback.

Thanks.

Don

[Guest guest]

Thank you! Good point. I am spread thin these days.

Steph

Too much iodine?

Has anyone in the group had symptoms like this from taking too much iodine?- Electric type feeling going through the center of the body (an internal quivering feeling)- Muscle weakness- Eye sensitivity and strain- Shortness of breath- HeadachesI appreciate any feedback.Thanks.Don

[Guest guest]

no. I take 100mg Iodoral a day. these symptoms sound like too little,

or low adrenals.

gracia

fog411 wrote:

>

>

> Has anyone in the group had symptoms like this from taking too much

> iodine?

>

> - Electric type feeling going through the center of the body (an

> internal quivering feeling)

> - Muscle weakness

> - Eye sensitivity and strain

> - Shortness of breath

> - Headaches

>

> I appreciate any feedback.

>

> Thanks.

>

> Don

>

>

[Guest guest]

sorry, I am not Steph, but IMO you need iodine.

I took 50mg Iodoral for 2 years with ATP cofactors, then for 2 years

took 100mg. It was definitely helping me, but finally when I added DMG

complete http://www.purezenhealth.com is when I made a lot of progress.

you have to feed your cells and wake them up from their comatose state.

help your adrenals ASAP. I take HC/cortef 5mg 4X a day--it is very safe.

Basically what I am saying is that it may take time and taking other

stuff besides iodine.

Gracia

LinR wrote:

>

> Ok, I've been a member of this group a lot longer than my new group

> for adrenal fatigue. I agree with need for iodine but was recently

> told I might be taking too much. I was experimenting with my dosage,

> and was taking up to 62.5mg. I didn't feel any different so I lowered

> it to 25 mg. Still, I don't notice anything different.

>

> Steph, I've posted my results before which where " normal " according to

> my holistic practice's idea of normal (not the standard)...and you

> said it depended on how I felt.

>

> Anyways, I took an adrenal saliva test and it showed that I am below

> optimal levels of adrenal function, making me adrenal fatigued.

>

> I definitely feel like I am, because I am tired all day long and only

> get some energy around 6 pm and I stay up until 11:30 up to 1 am.

>

> As I said, someone, with a lot of experience with adrenal fatigue

> (owner of the group?) said she was concerned that I was taking too

> much iodine and it's making my body do unnecessary de-arranging (since

> I'm trying to get pregnant).

>

> This belief is obviously in direct conflict with this group. I don't

> really know what to think since I really haven't felt a difference

> with taking iodine.

>

> Should I not take it?

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm also not Steph, but would like to offer my experience. I also am recovering

from adrenal fatigue and have low thyroid. I see an NP who specialises in

hormones and uses muscle response testing. My body doesn't want a lot of iodine

right now. It may later, but not now. I'm working on my liver and cleansing

parasites. When I've come through that I think I'll be able to take more

iodine. I think how much you need is a very individual thing and will change as

your body heals, but it's crucial to listen to your body. Have you tried muscle

response testing to find out what form it wants and how much?

>

> Ok, I've been a member of this group a lot longer than my new group for

adrenal fatigue. I agree with need for iodine but was recently told I might be

taking too much. I was experimenting with my dosage, and was taking up to

62.5mg. I didn't feel any different so I lowered it to 25 mg. Still, I don't

notice anything different.

>

> Steph, I've posted my results before which where " normal " according to my

holistic practice's idea of normal (not the standard)...and you said it depended

on how I felt.

>

> Anyways, I took an adrenal saliva test and it showed that I am below optimal

levels of adrenal function, making me adrenal fatigued.

>

> I definitely feel like I am, because I am tired all day long and only get some

energy around 6 pm and I stay up until 11:30 up to 1 am.

>

> As I said, someone, with a lot of experience with adrenal fatigue (owner of

the group?) said she was concerned that I was taking too much iodine and it's

making my body do unnecessary de-arranging (since I'm trying to get pregnant).

>

> This belief is obviously in direct conflict with this group. I don't really

know what to think since I really haven't felt a difference with taking iodine.

>

> Should I not take it?

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with what says here. I wish I would have done some cleanses and taken iodine prior to getting pregnant with my children. I think they would have been a lot better off. But I didn't know I didn't know. Also adrenal fatigue has been known to contribute to morning sickness. It all makes sense to me now that I was so sick! But iodine is healing for the adrenals - just make sure you balance detoxing with stressing. Because too much can overload them - and the liver. It's a hard balance to maintain since things are always shifting.

Steph

Re: too much iodine?

Lin, Steph needs to address your concerns, but I wanted to just say a couple of things.I had adrenal exhaustion and the iodine protocol + Isocort got me past the adrenal issues. Now when I take the Isocort it's as if I'm mainlining adrenaline, so I know my body is SO much better.The other thing is, we have reports through this list of women who were having problems conceiving or carrying who became pregnant successfully after being on the iodine protocol. It's not a good idea to start iodine once a person is already pregnant because the detoxing releases toxins and they pass through the umbilical cord. But, it's REALLY good for the baby to have iodine on board, really good for the baby's health through the long term, a real advantage.Please also know that the iodine protocol has had enormous success, but it's still cutting edge information and practice. A lot of holistic practitioners are still in the dark ages with respect to iodine supplementation. And the adrenal group tends to adhere to the old beliefs about iodine.Have you worked on your detoxification pathways? It would be great for your future children to clean out as much as possible with a series of the gallbladder/liver flushes etc. as recommended here, and sometimes the iodine can't be as effective because detox pathways are blocked.wishing you most well,--At 12:28 PM 8/19/2010, you wrote:>sorry, I am not Steph, but IMO you need iodine.>I took 50mg Iodoral for 2 years with ATP cofactors, then for 2 years>took 100mg. It was definitely helping me, but finally when I added DMG>complete http://www.purezenhealth.com is when I made a lot of progress.>you have to feed your cells and wake them up from their comatose state.>help your adrenals ASAP. I take HC/cortef 5mg 4X a day--it is very safe.>Basically what I am saying is that it may take time and taking other>stuff besides iodine.>Gracia>>>LinR wrote:> >> > Ok, I've been a member of this group a lot longer than my new group> > for adrenal fatigue. I agree with need for iodine but was recently> > told I might be taking too much. I was experimenting with my dosage,> > and was taking up to 62.5mg. I didn't feel any different so I lowered> > it to 25 mg. Still, I don't notice anything different.> >> > Steph, I've posted my results before which where "normal" according to> > my holistic practice's idea of normal (not the standard)...and you> > said it depended on how I felt.> >> > Anyways, I took an adrenal saliva test and it showed that I am below> > optimal levels of adrenal function, making me adrenal fatigued.> >> > I definitely feel like I am, because I am tired all day long and only> > get some energy around 6 pm and I stay up until 11:30 up to 1 am.> >> > As I said, someone, with a lot of experience with adrenal fatigue> > (owner of the group?) said she was concerned that I was taking too> > much iodine and it's making my body do unnecessary de-arranging (since> > I'm trying to get pregnant).> >> > This belief is obviously in direct conflict with this group. I don't> > really know what to think since I really haven't felt a difference> > with taking iodine.> >> > Should I not take it?> >> >>>>>------------------------------------>>All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT >group IodineOT/>>>Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

DR. from Sweetwater, Texas, says on his web site that the thyroid is very slow to respond to iodine and to see improvements, you have to think months, instead of days and weeks. In my experience this is true. When I got off iodine it took me almost 3 months before I began to notice I was not sleeping as well and getting tired. From that point on there was a gradual downturn for several months before I started to improve again. He also recommends monthly gradual increases, in stead of weekly.

Maybe that explains why you don't always immediately feel the benefits when you start taking iodine.

[Guest guest]

It took me a while to learn to do it at home, but I had three good teachers in

the three NPs I saw in a sequence that helped me to heal my illness. What I

learned was that it is horses for courses: no single dosage suits everyone and

our bodies are changing all the time. It isn't that they can't tolerate more or

less of, say, iodine, but that it makes the healing harder if the body isn't

getting the amount/dosage it needs at a particular time. And that changes.

> >

> >

> > I'm also not Steph, but would like to offer my experience. I also am

> > recovering from adrenal fatigue and have low thyroid. I see an NP who

> > specialises in hormones and uses muscle response testing. My body

> > doesn't want a lot of iodine right now. It may later, but not now. I'm

> > working on my liver and cleansing parasites. When I've come through

> > that I think I'll be able to take more iodine. I think how much you

> > need is a very individual thing and will change as your body heals,

> > but it's crucial to listen to your body. Have you tried muscle

> > response testing to find out what form it wants and how much?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My mother had toxemia when she was pregnant with me and though I looked after my

health I've had to work hard at it and in my sixties came down with a chronic

illness which a variety of holistic approaches have helped me to overcome. When

we were looking for causes one NP I saw said that a pact is made in the womb

because the mother cannot carry the whole toxic load during the pregnancy: the

baby must carry some of it. The level of toxicity of the mother is therefore

critical to the health of the baby.

> > >

> > > Ok, I've been a member of this group a lot longer than my new group

> > > for adrenal fatigue. I agree with need for iodine but was recently

> > > told I might be taking too much. I was experimenting with my dosage,

> > > and was taking up to 62.5mg. I didn't feel any different so I lowered

> > > it to 25 mg. Still, I don't notice anything different.

> > >

> > > Steph, I've posted my results before which where " normal " according to

> > > my holistic practice's idea of normal (not the standard)...and you

> > > said it depended on how I felt.

> > >

> > > Anyways, I took an adrenal saliva test and it showed that I am below

> > > optimal levels of adrenal function, making me adrenal fatigued.

> > >

> > > I definitely feel like I am, because I am tired all day long and only

> > > get some energy around 6 pm and I stay up until 11:30 up to 1 am.

> > >

> > > As I said, someone, with a lot of experience with adrenal fatigue

> > > (owner of the group?) said she was concerned that I was taking too

> > > much iodine and it's making my body do unnecessary de-arranging (since

> > > I'm trying to get pregnant).

> > >

> > > This belief is obviously in direct conflict with this group. I don't

> > > really know what to think since I really haven't felt a difference

> > > with taking iodine.

> > >

> > > Should I not take it?

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >------------------------------------

> >

> >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

> >group IodineOT/

> >

> >

> >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

Just my personal opinion, but if I had to do it over again, I would not take HC. I know a lot of people don't agree, but I think it's a crutch and will keep one from finding the cause or causes of their fatigue. I spent 4 years on it and had a very hard time getting off of it, until I finally addressed liver and kidney issues. I ended up with problems caused by the HC. I took all the advice, larger doses, etc., all I ended up doing was further damage. There are a lot of different routes to take to curing adrenal problems that work. I've been on that group a long time and I have yet to find someone who did the whole iodine protocol for any length of time (out of the naysayers).Linn On Aug 19, 2010, at 1:16 PM, LinR wrote:

Thank you for the clarification! It makes sense now.

I just want to start a family so bad that I'm getting lost in doing everything and anything. I don't want to take anything that will harm me or a baby if I were pregnant, that's why I've been scared to do a detox...since I'm always (expect when I'm on my period) unsure if I conceived or not. Is there a way I cam detox in between or will the results last for awhile? I have detoxed using bentonite clay and I feel like that's a safe way of doing it since the toxins aren't floating around. But lately I haven't been doing it.

I have lowered my grain consumption a lot and that has made a huge difference. I'm still getting PMS and cramps and still have a low libido. I suspected that the problem was a hormon imbalance but I got it tested and they were fine (too much progesterone since I was taking it topically before the test). So now it's my adrenals.

I guess what I want to know now is, how do I safely detox and is there anything else I should be doing to increase conception?

>

> Please do not take the advice of the adrenal group. They are VERY

> anti-iodine and for no good reason other than the very toxic owner had a bad

> reaction to it and doesn't want to find out how to get past it. So now it

> is bad for everyone.

>

> "Normal" is 25 mgs per day after you have reached saturation. Loading tests

> with bromide levels guide you on how your body is progressing. Without that

> it is all just a "Try it and see". I finally felt my best after going

> through a detox when I took 125 mgs / day. Before then I felt nothing when

> I either took it or didn't take it. I think for me because I was so toxic

> in bromide I had to knock some of it off of the receptors with higher doses

> and then it could enter the cells and "work it's magic".

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Lin-- You never said how long you'd been taking iodine. If I may suggest,

you might be better off to stop trying to get pregnant for a while and do

some deep detoxing and let the iodine do its work and get your adrenals up,

and then when you are ready again (I think it could be as little as 3

months) your body and system would be a lot better equipped to conceive and

carry. Being adrenal fatigued while pregnant, not to mention needing to

detox and can't, isn't in the best interest of your children's health (not

to mention your own), and 3 months isn't very long, especially if you're

vigorously scrubbing and detoxing, which takes work.

Just a suggestion, I'm not in your shoes.

wishing you most well,

--

At 01:16 PM 8/19/2010, you wrote:

>Thank you for the clarification! It makes sense now.

>

> I just want to start a family so bad that I'm getting lost in doing

> everything and anything. I don't want to take anything that will harm me

> or a baby if I were pregnant, that's why I've been scared to do a

> detox...since I'm always (expect when I'm on my period) unsure if I

> conceived or not. Is there a way I cam detox in between or will the

> results last for awhile? I have detoxed using bentonite clay and I feel

> like that's a safe way of doing it since the toxins aren't floating

> around. But lately I haven't been doing it.

>

>I have lowered my grain consumption a lot and that has made a huge

>difference. I'm still getting PMS and cramps and still have a low

>libido. I suspected that the problem was a hormon imbalance but I got it

>tested and they were fine (too much progesterone since I was taking it

>topically before the test). So now it's my adrenals.

>

>I guess what I want to know now is, how do I safely detox and is there

>anything else I should be doing to increase conception?

>

>

>

> >

> > Please do not take the advice of the adrenal group. They are VERY

> > anti-iodine and for no good reason other than the very toxic owner had

> a bad

> > reaction to it and doesn't want to find out how to get past it. So now it

> > is bad for everyone.

> >

> > " Normal " is 25 mgs per day after you have reached saturation. Loading

> tests

> > with bromide levels guide you on how your body is progressing. Without

> that

> > it is all just a " Try it and see " . I finally felt my best after going

> > through a detox when I took 125 mgs / day. Before then I felt nothing

> when

> > I either took it or didn't take it. I think for me because I was so toxic

> > in bromide I had to knock some of it off of the receptors with higher

> doses

> > and then it could enter the cells and " work it's magic " .

> >

> >

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

I only took HC when in crisis. The rest of the time I used Cytozyme AD, Salt, Vit C, Rhodiola to help heal. It was my diet and stress that contributed to my adrenals plus poorly treated thyroid. I don't like the idea of HC for "healing" either.

Steph

Re: Re: too much iodine?

Just my personal opinion, but if I had to do it over again, I would not take HC. I know a lot of people don't agree, but I think it's a crutch and will keep one from finding the cause or causes of their fatigue. I spent 4 years on it and had a very hard time getting off of it, until I finally addressed liver and kidney issues. I ended up with problems caused by the HC. I took all the advice, larger doses, etc., all I ended up doing was further damage. There are a lot of different routes to take to curing adrenal problems that work. I've been on that group a long time and I have yet to find someone who did the whole iodine protocol for any length of time (out of the naysayers).

Linn

On Aug 19, 2010, at 1:16 PM, LinR wrote:

Thank you for the clarification! It makes sense now.I just want to start a family so bad that I'm getting lost in doing everything and anything. I don't want to take anything that will harm me or a baby if I were pregnant, that's why I've been scared to do a detox...since I'm always (expect when I'm on my period) unsure if I conceived or not. Is there a way I cam detox in between or will the results last for awhile? I have detoxed using bentonite clay and I feel like that's a safe way of doing it since the toxins aren't floating around. But lately I haven't been doing it.I have lowered my grain consumption a lot and that has made a huge difference. I'm still getting PMS and cramps and still have a low libido. I suspected that the problem was a hormon imbalance but I got it tested and they were fine (too much progesterone since I was taking it topically before the test). So now it's my adrenals. I guess what I want to know now is, how do I safely detox and is there anything else I should be doing to increase conception?>> Please do not take the advice of the adrenal group. They are VERY > anti-iodine and for no good reason other than the very toxic owner had a bad > reaction to it and doesn't want to find out how to get past it. So now it > is bad for everyone.> > "Normal" is 25 mgs per day after you have reached saturation. Loading tests > with bromide levels guide you on how your body is progressing. Without that > it is all just a "Try it and see". I finally felt my best after going > through a detox when I took 125 mgs / day. Before then I felt nothing when > I either took it or didn't take it. I think for me because I was so toxic > in bromide I had to knock some of it off of the receptors with higher doses > and then it could enter the cells and "work it's magic".> > > >

[Guest guest]

Woops! I wrote I thought it could be as little as 3 months to detox and

get ready. Steph is much more knowledgeable, esp about pregnancy, so I

would trust the 1-year benchmark she suggests.

You would save so much grief down the line by doing this-- physical,

emotional, financial.

--

At 01:32 PM 8/19/2010, you wrote:

>If I can give you some advice. PLEASE don't try to get pregnant now. Try

>to prevent it. Take one year and really work on detoxing your body and

>increasing nutrient levels. Your children will thank you for it. I

>should have NEVER gotten pregnant with my children. They will have long

>lasting ramifications from my poor choices. My son is so toxic in bromide

>that he could have only gotten from me. Because of my bad thyroid

>condition and low iodine and selenium levels they will be on thyroid

>medication for life and now it looks like they are developing autoimmune

>thyroid disease. My diet was horrible and I am sure I did not give them

>enough nutrients. Passing these toxins to your body will harm their DNA

>which they will have to deal with for life. Autoimmune conditions are the

>most prevalent.

>

>If I could go back in time I would take a year and really invest in my

>child's future by working on cleaning up my body. Otherwise you will have

>a life like mine where you are trying to detox your child - which isn't

>fun at all.

>

>I was 34 and 36 yrs old when I had my children.

>

>

>

>

> Re: too much iodine?

>

>

>

>Thank you for the clarification! It makes sense now.

>

>I just want to start a family so bad that I'm getting lost in doing

>everything and anything. I don't want to take anything that will harm me

>or a baby if I were pregnant, that's why I've been scared to do a

>detox...since I'm always (expect when I'm on my period) unsure if I

>conceived or not. Is there a way I cam detox in between or will the

>results last for awhile? I have detoxed using bentonite clay and I feel

>like that's a safe way of doing it since the toxins aren't floating

>around. But lately I haven't been doing it.

>

>I have lowered my grain consumption a lot and that has made a huge

>difference. I'm still getting PMS and cramps and still have a low libido.

>I suspected that the problem was a hormon imbalance but I got it tested

>and they were fine (too much progesterone since I was taking it topically

>before the test). So now it's my adrenals.

>

>I guess what I want to know now is, how do I safely detox and is there

>anything else I should be doing to increase conception?

>

>

> >

> > Please do not take the advice of the adrenal group. They are VERY

> > anti-iodine and for no good reason other than the very toxic owner had

> a bad

> > reaction to it and doesn't want to find out how to get past it. So now it

> > is bad for everyone.

> >

> > " Normal " is 25 mgs per day after you have reached saturation. Loading

> tests

> > with bromide levels guide you on how your body is progressing. Without

> that

> > it is all just a " Try it and see " . I finally felt my best after going

> > through a detox when I took 125 mgs / day. Before then I felt nothing when

> > I either took it or didn't take it. I think for me because I was so toxic

> > in bromide I had to knock some of it off of the receptors with higher

> doses

> > and then it could enter the cells and " work it's magic " .

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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And the guilt factor. I carry that one heavily.....

Steph

Re: too much iodine?>>>>Thank you for the clarification! It makes sense now.>>I just want to start a family so bad that I'm getting lost in doing >everything and anything. I don't want to take anything that will harm me >or a baby if I were pregnant, that's why I've been scared to do a >detox...since I'm always (expect when I'm on my period) unsure if I >conceived or not. Is there a way I cam detox in between or will the >results last for awhile? I have detoxed using bentonite clay and I feel >like that's a safe way of doing it since the toxins aren't floating >around. But lately I haven't been doing it.>>I have lowered my grain consumption a lot and that has made a huge >difference. I'm still getting PMS and cramps and still have a low libido. >I suspected that the problem was a hormon imbalance but I got it tested >and they were fine (too much progesterone since I was taking it topically >before the test). So now it's my adrenals.>>I guess what I want to know now is, how do I safely detox and is there >anything else I should be doing to increase conception?>>> >> > Please do not take the advice of the adrenal group. They are VERY> > anti-iodine and for no good reason other than the very toxic owner had > a bad> > reaction to it and doesn't want to find out how to get past it. So now it> > is bad for everyone.> >> > "Normal" is 25 mgs per day after you have reached saturation. Loading > tests> > with bromide levels guide you on how your body is progressing. Without > that> > it is all just a "Try it and see". I finally felt my best after going> > through a detox when I took 125 mgs / day. Before then I felt nothing when> > I either took it or didn't take it. I think for me because I was so toxic> > in bromide I had to knock some of it off of the receptors with higher > doses> > and then it could enter the cells and "work it's magic".> >> > > >> >>>>>>>No virus found in this incoming message.>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com>Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3081 - Release Date: 08/19/10 >01:35:00>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste

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I fully agree.

I fully agree: hydrocortisone (HC) is very damaging for liver and kidneys. I avoid it like the plague and only will use it short term, never, ever long term. The trade-off can be terrible, so you have to make the choice and decide what is worse.

[Guest guest]

What's HC? healing clay?

> > >

> > > Please do not take the advice of the adrenal group. They are VERY

> > > anti-iodine and for no good reason other than the very toxic owner had a

bad

> > > reaction to it and doesn't want to find out how to get past it. So now it

> > > is bad for everyone.

> > >

> > > " Normal " is 25 mgs per day after you have reached saturation. Loading

tests

> > > with bromide levels guide you on how your body is progressing. Without

that

> > > it is all just a " Try it and see " . I finally felt my best after going

> > > through a detox when I took 125 mgs / day. Before then I felt nothing when

> > > I either took it or didn't take it. I think for me because I was so toxic

> > > in bromide I had to knock some of it off of the receptors with higher

doses

> > > and then it could enter the cells and " work it's magic " .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

To answer some questions, I've been taking iodine for about 5 months now. Been

ttc for about 2 years.

I understand wanting to completely detox before ttc but I just feel like it's

going to happen wen God wants it to happen. I have been eating organically for

2 years, drinking filtered water (and showering) for a year and have really

lowered my toxic risk. I know toxins stick around for awhile so I'm doing what

I can.

Is there a way I can test my toxic load? Is using bentonite clay a recognized

way of detoxing? My personal experience is: Every time I've taken it, I feel

really tired and low, almost sick for 2 days and then I expel it and then I feel

amazing! I really do think it works and I've had great results with it.

I don't understand how so many (unhealthy) women get pregnant no problem and

their kids grow up " fine " (I know something comes up along the way). Grrr I

care so much about my health and I am the one having problems.

[Guest guest]

Hydrocortisone (brand name Cortef)

Steph

Re: too much iodine?

What's HC? healing clay?>

[Guest guest]

Yes I would do the 24 hour Iodine Loading with Bromide level from Hakala Labs www.hakalalabs.com - it's about $100 for the two tests and it will give you an idea of how toxic you may be. Bromide is very toxic stuff - especially for a baby so it is important to know. There supposedly are blood tests that can check levels of bromide in the serum as well but it isn't very easy to obtain. It was discussed at the Iodine conference - more because the loading test / bromide level test wasn't available to all at that time (2007) and now it is.

Lin are you working with a doctor on your infertility? Mainly - are you monitoring your hormone levels? Adrenals? Many conceive when they are taking bioidentical hormones.

My husband and I were both told we could not have kids yet I got pregnant. My job was stressful (working 100 hrs / week) and I was on a plane non stop. I ate horribly and slept little. I ended up with cancer after my pregnancy. So there is a downside to being unhealthy and getting pregnant. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. I barely remember my son as a baby since I was having cancer treatments. My poor son has had many health issues to deal with because of it. Thankfully he is a trooper with supplements. I know it is hard to want a child and not be blessed. I'll do what I can to help you.

Re: too much iodine?

To answer some questions, I've been taking iodine for about 5 months now. Been ttc for about 2 years. I understand wanting to completely detox before ttc but I just feel like it's going to happen wen God wants it to happen. I have been eating organically for 2 years, drinking filtered water (and showering) for a year and have really lowered my toxic risk. I know toxins stick around for awhile so I'm doing what I can.Is there a way I can test my toxic load? Is using bentonite clay a recognized way of detoxing? My personal experience is: Every time I've taken it, I feel really tired and low, almost sick for 2 days and then I expel it and then I feel amazing! I really do think it works and I've had great results with it.I don't understand how so many (unhealthy) women get pregnant no problem and their kids grow up "fine" (I know something comes up along the way). Grrr I care so much about my health and I am the one having problems.

[Guest guest]

My children were always low energy, quick to lose their temper, aggressive behavior, always cold, one slept too much and the other not at all. We started with thyroid and began treating that. When my son had issues with behavior and attention in school and the teachers *hinted* around about his issues I began digging deeper. We ran the Iodine loading test and I did the test with Dr. B in his lab. That came up toxic in bromide. Then I did a food allergy tests along with an Organic Acid with environmental toxin test. He showed very toxic in 4 chemicals as well as allergic to gluten, eggs, and dairy. I think he has leaky gut because of all the antibiotics his Pediatrician gave him (he fired us when I refused to continue vaccinating because of his constant illnesses). He has not had an ear infection, bronchitis or anything more than a cold or stomach flu since we stopped and went holistic. When he is sick it is for about 2 days and then he is done. We have spent thousands of dollars on our two kids to get them well. Not many people can do that but we have been blessed.

Steph

Re: too much iodine?> > > > To answer some questions, I've been taking iodine for about 5 months now. Been ttc for about 2 years. > > I understand wanting to completely detox before ttc but I just feel like it's going to happen wen God wants it to happen. I have been eating organically for 2 years, drinking filtered water (and showering) for a year and have really lowered my toxic risk. I know toxins stick around for awhile so I'm doing what I can.> > Is there a way I can test my toxic load? Is using bentonite clay a recognized way of detoxing? My personal experience is: Every time I've taken it, I feel really tired and low, almost sick for 2 days and then I expel it and then I feel amazing! I really do think it works and I've had great results with it.> > I don't understand how so many (unhealthy) women get pregnant no problem and their kids grow up "fine" (I know something comes up along the way). Grrr I care so much about my health and I am the one having problems.>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lin,

I know what you're going through. It's been 2 years since we started TTC as

well. I was very anxious to start a family, since I was already 40 years old. We

had no problems getting pregnant, but sustaining it was a problem. After 3

miscarriages, we started looking for answers and found out about my

hypothyroidism.

While looking for supplements to support my thyroid, a herbalist suggested I

have my dental amalgams removed since they contain mercury. This was news to me,

but what an epiphany!

The clinic where my husband and I had our dental amalgams removed also

specialized in detox, so they performed a chelation challenge test to test our

toxic burden / load. The naturopath injected us with EDTA and DMPS, and we

collected our urine for 24 hrs. A sample of the urine was sent to Doctor's Data

lab in Chicago for testing.

The results showed I was very toxic in mercury, lead and aluminum (the report is

very detailed, and well worth the money >$300). I went thru 3 months of weekly

IV chelation sessions (EDTA and DMPS), infrared saunas 3 times / week, used

Japanese foot pads and ramped up my supplement regime (minerals compete with the

heavy metals for receptor sites). I also changed our diet and started following

the Weston Price principles (grass-fed, organic, bone broth, good fat, etc). I

also reduced the toxins from the house (shampoo, cosmetics, window blinds,

carpet - according to the EWG website) and installed water/shower filters. At

the end of 3 months, I was retested and the heavy metals had all come down to

within the 'acceptable' range.

My husband was also tested high for lead, so he was treated more conservatively

with EDTA suppositories and supplements only.

At the end of my chelation, we were excited to TTC again, but miscarried.

Another challenge test on my husband showed he was more toxic than before,

meaning that supplementing his minerals for the 4 months had released more heavy

metals. He did 10 weeks of IV EDTA.

We were told that you can continue to TTC while using ETDA, as long as we waited

48 hrs after a dose, but to wait 30 days after a dose of DMPS, so that's why he

opted for EDTA only. We also both started on iodine to help detox.

We changed naturopaths to one who specialises in fertility and detox. She

suggested to test his sperm DNA, which came out phenomenal, and take a iodine

challenge test (we both came out toxic for bromide). My husband is now treated

with supplements and iodine only to avoid stirring up heavy metals with such a

good sperm DNA result.

I am still detoxing, and I know this because I started having symptoms after

starting taking 100mg Lugol's daily. Now I take supplements, Lugol's 75mg, and

alpha lipoic acid (200mg), plus lots of antioxidants (vit E, COQ10, fish oil).

We plan to wait another 3 months before TTC and do a parasite cleanse in the

meantime.

I'm 42 now, and yes, I'm still keen to have a baby, but I don't want a baby who

could possibly be sick and have a poor quality of life. I believe I was lead in

this direction for a reason, and I'm very happy about that. That's how I've

found peace and patience to see this thru.

Ziggy

>

> To answer some questions, I've been taking iodine for about 5 months now.

Been ttc for about 2 years.

>

> I understand wanting to completely detox before ttc but I just feel like it's

going to happen wen God wants it to happen. I have been eating organically for

2 years, drinking filtered water (and showering) for a year and have really

lowered my toxic risk. I know toxins stick around for awhile so I'm doing what

I can.

>

> Is there a way I can test my toxic load? Is using bentonite clay a recognized

way of detoxing? My personal experience is: Every time I've taken it, I feel

really tired and low, almost sick for 2 days and then I expel it and then I feel

amazing! I really do think it works and I've had great results with it.

>

> I don't understand how so many (unhealthy) women get pregnant no problem and

their kids grow up " fine " (I know something comes up along the way). Grrr I

care so much about my health and I am the one having problems.

>

[Guest guest]

Wow what a story. It is so sad that so many of us are so toxic. It makes you wonder about the next generation. My children started their lives toxic and we work hard to keep them clean now and detox them. Each generation seems to suffer more than the last. I am glad you are finding answers. I recently read that zinc helps men with fertility - making the sperm stronger. Not sure if it will help you - but maybe as it is also an immune booster.

Keep us up to date as to how you are doing. I am very interested in your case since you have done so much work to detox thus far.

Steph

Re: too much iodine?

Hi Lin, I know what you're going through. It's been 2 years since we started TTC as well. I was very anxious to start a family, since I was already 40 years old. We had no problems getting pregnant, but sustaining it was a problem. After 3 miscarriages, we started looking for answers and found out about my hypothyroidism. While looking for supplements to support my thyroid, a herbalist suggested I have my dental amalgams removed since they contain mercury. This was news to me, but what an epiphany! The clinic where my husband and I had our dental amalgams removed also specialized in detox, so they performed a chelation challenge test to test our toxic burden / load. The naturopath injected us with EDTA and DMPS, and we collected our urine for 24 hrs. A sample of the urine was sent to Doctor's Data lab in Chicago for testing. The results showed I was very toxic in mercury, lead and aluminum (the report is very detailed, and well worth the money >$300). I went thru 3 months of weekly IV chelation sessions (EDTA and DMPS), infrared saunas 3 times / week, used Japanese foot pads and ramped up my supplement regime (minerals compete with the heavy metals for receptor sites). I also changed our diet and started following the Weston Price principles (grass-fed, organic, bone broth, good fat, etc). I also reduced the toxins from the house (shampoo, cosmetics, window blinds, carpet - according to the EWG website) and installed water/shower filters. At the end of 3 months, I was retested and the heavy metals had all come down to within the 'acceptable' range. My husband was also tested high for lead, so he was treated more conservatively with EDTA suppositories and supplements only. At the end of my chelation, we were excited to TTC again, but miscarried. Another challenge test on my husband showed he was more toxic than before, meaning that supplementing his minerals for the 4 months had released more heavy metals. He did 10 weeks of IV EDTA. We were told that you can continue to TTC while using ETDA, as long as we waited 48 hrs after a dose, but to wait 30 days after a dose of DMPS, so that's why he opted for EDTA only. We also both started on iodine to help detox.We changed naturopaths to one who specialises in fertility and detox. She suggested to test his sperm DNA, which came out phenomenal, and take a iodine challenge test (we both came out toxic for bromide). My husband is now treated with supplements and iodine only to avoid stirring up heavy metals with such a good sperm DNA result. I am still detoxing, and I know this because I started having symptoms after starting taking 100mg Lugol's daily. Now I take supplements, Lugol's 75mg, and alpha lipoic acid (200mg), plus lots of antioxidants (vit E, COQ10, fish oil). We plan to wait another 3 months before TTC and do a parasite cleanse in the meantime. I'm 42 now, and yes, I'm still keen to have a baby, but I don't want a baby who could possibly be sick and have a poor quality of life. I believe I was lead in this direction for a reason, and I'm very happy about that. That's how I've found peace and patience to see this thru. Ziggy>> To answer some questions, I've been taking iodine for about 5 months now. Been ttc for about 2 years. > > I understand wanting to completely detox before ttc but I just feel like it's going to happen wen God wants it to happen. I have been eating organically for 2 years, drinking filtered water (and showering) for a year and have really lowered my toxic risk. I know toxins stick around for awhile so I'm doing what I can.> > Is there a way I can test my toxic load? Is using bentonite clay a recognized way of detoxing? My personal experience is: Every time I've taken it, I feel really tired and low, almost sick for 2 days and then I expel it and then I feel amazing! I really do think it works and I've had great results with it.> > I don't understand how so many (unhealthy) women get pregnant no problem and their kids grow up "fine" (I know something comes up along the way). Grrr I care so much about my health and I am the one having problems.>

[Guest guest]

I consider HC to be just like Armour/NT--it supplies what's missing.

you might like HC better as you get older

Gracia

ladybugsandbees wrote:

>

>

> I only took HC when in crisis. The rest of the time I used Cytozyme

> AD, Salt, Vit C, Rhodiola to help heal. It was my diet and stress

> that contributed to my adrenals plus poorly treated thyroid. I don't

> like the idea of HC for " healing " either.

>

> Steph

>