Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Sardines are also a source of CoQ10 and iodine. This is important considering that Codex will go into affect December 31st, 2009, and these isolated nutrients will be banned internationally. from Israel > > > > > > We know that the companion nutrients are needed to make iodine effective. So maybe as you added them it started to work by kicking out toxins and beginning to be used by the thyroid. Your thyroid is in your neck not your chest so you comment about swelling and thyroid doesn't make sense to me. It is normal for your hormones to go " whacky " when taking iodoral as ever gland and mucosal lining use iodine (adrenals, ovaries, uterus - all control sex hormones). > > > > > > Here are the dosage recommendations: > > > > > > Magnesium 400 mgs > > > Vit C 3,000 - 5,000 mgs > > > Selenium 200 - 400 mcg > > > Unrefined salt 1/2 tsp + using liberally on food. > > > > > > Other beneficial things I have found: > > > > > > Kroeger Herbs Sunny A - 25,000 iU from fish and carrots > > > BalanCe - www.vrp.com a vit C supplement containing Vit C, Potassium, Magnesium, Calcium I feel best taking 1-2 scoops 2x per day (I have to work up to that amount for bowel tolerance) > > > B6 Complex - I take Pure Encapsulations > > > > > > Keep in mind most of us are HIGHLY toxic and when you get things moving you will get a healing crisis. I have lived them for years as I work on each new thing. You are always a work in process. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I right or wrong about iodine? > > > > > > > > > > > > I started taking it about 5 months ago and really thought it could help resolve A LOT of issues I was having, mainly weight gain, sluggishness and constipation. I read up on it and bought Brownstein's book. > > > > > > I started out with 50mg/day and stayed there without missing a dosage. Early on I began B2, B3 and Vit C. I had been taking mag malate for a few years and recently upped my dosage of it. More recently I started taking selenium, even though it's in my liquid vitamin. > > > > > > I started seeing my symptoms get worse and my cycle went absolutely haywire where it has been very normal for years and years. Especially problemsome (is that a word? is the weight gain and constipation. > > > > > > Friday was the last day I took 50mg and went 2 days with taking none. Then for the last 2 days I took 12.5mg. I've had a 'cramp' in my upper chest (like it's my thyroid swelling or something)and just a general unease. > > > > > > I don't know which way to go. I feel like I'm pushing myself right into taking the hormone and I started taking iodine specifically so I would NOT have to do that! > > > > > > I read here that many are having the same problems as me so it seems the iodine is having an opposite effect from what we thought it would do. > > > > > > I kinda feel like I'm going nuts here and would love some help. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 , Greg Caton is up and running again out of Ecuador. You can visit his active website and order products from www.altcancer.com. When you buy his iodine, look at the mg/drop, not the percentages he advertises. His 15% iodine is more like 6% iodine, the reason being that he includes the iodide included in the potassium iodide in addition to the elemental iodine. The traditional percentage only refers to the elemental iodine (as in traditional 5% Lugol's solution). from Israel > > From: spacejunkie2001us <scastor@...> > Subject: Am I right or wrong about iodine? > iodine > Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 6:07 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > I started taking it about 5 months ago and really thought it could help resolve A LOT of issues I was having, mainly weight gain, sluggishness and constipation. I read up on it and bought Brownstein's book. > > > > I started out with 50mg/day and stayed there without missing a dosage. Early on I began B2, B3 and Vit C. I had been taking mag malate for a few years and recently upped my dosage of it. More recently I started taking selenium, even though it's in my liquid vitamin. > > > > I started seeing my symptoms get worse and my cycle went absolutely haywire where it has been very normal for years and years. Especially problemsome (is that a word? is the weight gain and constipation. > > > > Friday was the last day I took 50mg and went 2 days with taking none. Then for the last 2 days I took 12.5mg. I've had a 'cramp' in my upper chest (like it's my thyroid swelling or something)and just a general unease. > > > > I don't know which way to go. I feel like I'm pushing myself right into taking the hormone and I started taking iodine specifically so I would NOT have to do that! > > > > I read here that many are having the same problems as me so it seems the iodine is having an opposite effect from what we thought it would do. > > > > I kinda feel like I'm going nuts here and would love some help. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 What do you mean , that we will not be able to buy Lugol's or Iodoral or that we will not be able to buy basic iodine? > > Sardines are also a source of CoQ10 and iodine. This is important considering that Codex will go into affect December 31st, 2009, and these isolated nutrients will be banned internationally. > > from Israel > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 According to Codex Alimentarius, any substance (herb, mineral, amino acid, or vitamin) that is not specifically approved is banned! Do a search for Codex Alimentarius on Youtube to educate yourself. Lugol's has already been partially banned, has it not? There are already restrictions on the concentration and volume you can purchase. I suspect that this is only the first step. MMS has already been banned in Canada, and natural doctors are under the guillotines set up for them by the medical establishment gangsters. Iodoral, along with the weak iodine solutions such as Nascent iodine, have so far not been affected by legislation. Hopefully, that will not change. My guess is that Iodoral might become a prescription-only item, obtainable only at high cost. Already, you are required to have a prescription if you order it directly from the Iodoral main website. from Israel > > > > Sardines are also a source of CoQ10 and iodine. This is important considering that Codex will go into affect December 31st, 2009, and these isolated nutrients will be banned internationally. > > > > from Israel > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Lugol's has been limited due to the drug makers using it for crystal meth. It is not related to this. It is a DEA enforcement. Steph Re: Am I right or wrong about iodine? According to Codex Alimentarius, any substance (herb, mineral, amino acid, or vitamin) that is not specifically approved is banned! Do a search for Codex Alimentarius on Youtube to educate yourself.Lugol's has already been partially banned, has it not? There are already restrictions on the concentration and volume you can purchase. I suspect that this is only the first step. MMS has already been banned in Canada, and natural doctors are under the guillotines set up for them by the medical establishment gangsters.Iodoral, along with the weak iodine solutions such as Nascent iodine, have so far not been affected by legislation. Hopefully, that will not change. My guess is that Iodoral might become a prescription-only item, obtainable only at high cost. Already, you are required to have a prescription if you order it directly from the Iodoral main website. from Israel> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Of course - that's because Codex has not gone into effect yet. from Israel > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 http://www.celticseasalt.com/Salt_Your_Way_To_Health_W227C351.cfm Unrefined salt has a wide range of minerals including potassium and magnesium, providing the body with a complex of nutrients that it needs to function optimally. The use of unrefined salt will not cause elevated blood pressure; in fact, due to its abundance of minerals, it can actually help lower the blood pressure in hypertensive patients. Re: Re: Am I right or wrong about iodine? Doesn't sea salt have the "perfect" ratio of sodium to potassium? Should we be adding more potassium if we are taking 1/2 tsp. sea salt with the iodine and using liberally on food? Thanks. BarbF In a message dated 11/11/2009 9:24:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ladybugsandbeessbcglobal (DOT) net writes: I suspect that w/o knowing it the potassium in my Vit C was balancing my sodium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 i think so far in the u.s. codex will not ban these...there are groups here fighting codex in the u.s. and hoping to keep our freedoms in this area....lets cross our fingersFrom: Yochanan <yburkett@...>iodine Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 5:48:47 AMSubject: Re: Am I right or wrong about iodine? Sardines are also a source of CoQ10 and iodine. This is important considering that Codex will go into affect December 31st, 2009, and these isolated nutrients will be banned internationally. from Israel > > > > > > We know that the companion nutrients are needed to make iodine effective. So maybe as you added them it started to work by kicking out toxins and beginning to be used by the thyroid. Your thyroid is in your neck not your chest so you comment about swelling and thyroid doesn't make sense to me. It is normal for your hormones to go "whacky" when taking iodoral as ever gland and mucosal lining use iodine (adrenals, ovaries, uterus - all control sex hormones). > > > > > > Here are the dosage recommendations: > > > > > > Magnesium 400 mgs > > > Vit C 3,000 - 5,000 mgs > > > Selenium 200 - 400 mcg > > > Unrefined salt 1/2 tsp + using liberally on food. > > > > > > Other beneficial things I have found: > > > > > > Kroeger Herbs Sunny A - 25,000 iU from fish and carrots > > > BalanCe - www.vrp.com a vit C supplement containing Vit C, Potassium, Magnesium, Calcium I feel best taking 1-2 scoops 2x per day (I have to work up to that amount for bowel tolerance) > > > B6 Complex - I take Pure Encapsulations > > > > > > Keep in mind most of us are HIGHLY toxic and when you get things moving you will get a healing crisis. I have lived them for years as I work on each new thing. You are always a work in process. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I right or wrong about iodine? > > > > > > > > > > > > I started taking it about 5 months ago and really thought it could help resolve A LOT of issues I was having, mainly weight gain, sluggishness and constipation. I read up on it and bought Brownstein's book. > > > > > > I started out with 50mg/day and stayed there without missing a dosage. Early on I began B2, B3 and Vit C. I had been taking mag malate for a few years and recently upped my dosage of it. More recently I started taking selenium, even though it's in my liquid vitamin. > > > > > > I started seeing my symptoms get worse and my cycle went absolutely haywire where it has been very normal for years and years. Especially problemsome (is that a word? is the weight gain and constipation. > > > > > > Friday was the last day I took 50mg and went 2 days with taking none. Then for the last 2 days I took 12.5mg. I've had a 'cramp' in my upper chest (like it's my thyroid swelling or something)and just a general unease. > > > > > > I don't know which way to go. I feel like I'm pushing myself right into taking the hormone and I started taking iodine specifically so I would NOT have to do that! > > > > > > I read here that many are having the same problems as me so it seems the iodine is having an opposite effect from what we thought it would do. > > > > > > I kinda feel like I'm going nuts here and would love some help. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Dont you think we would have heard huge opposition to this from the natural supplement market. I mean this is a billion dollar industry and is one of the fastest growing. Also, I would imagine that holistic doctors would be up in arms and shouting from every rooftop by now if this was due to happen. I have read about Codex but I was under the impression that there is government opposition to this, not only in the US. PS Don't get me wrong. I could be very easily be living in a bubble > > > > > > > > We know that the companion nutrients are needed to make iodine effective. So maybe as you added them it started to work by kicking out toxins and beginning to be used by the thyroid. Your thyroid is in your neck not your chest so you comment about swelling and thyroid doesn't make sense to me. It is normal for your hormones to go " whacky " when taking iodoral as ever gland and mucosal lining use iodine (adrenals, ovaries, uterus - all control sex hormones). > > > > > > > > Here are the dosage recommendations: > > > > > > > > Magnesium 400 mgs > > > > Vit C 3,000 - 5,000 mgs > > > > Selenium 200 - 400 mcg > > > > Unrefined salt 1/2 tsp + using liberally on food. > > > > > > > > Other beneficial things I have found: > > > > > > > > Kroeger Herbs Sunny A - 25,000 iU from fish and carrots > > > > BalanCe - www.vrp.com a vit C supplement containing Vit C, Potassium, Magnesium, Calcium I feel best taking 1-2 scoops 2x per day (I have to work up to that amount for bowel tolerance) > > > > B6 Complex - I take Pure Encapsulations > > > > > > > > Keep in mind most of us are HIGHLY toxic and when you get things moving you will get a healing crisis. I have lived them for years as I work on each new thing. You are always a work in process. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I right or wrong about iodine? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I started taking it about 5 months ago and really thought it could help resolve A LOT of issues I was having, mainly weight gain, sluggishness and constipation. I read up on it and bought Brownstein's book. > > > > > > > > I started out with 50mg/day and stayed there without missing a dosage. Early on I began B2, B3 and Vit C. I had been taking mag malate for a few years and recently upped my dosage of it. More recently I started taking selenium, even though it's in my liquid vitamin. > > > > > > > > I started seeing my symptoms get worse and my cycle went absolutely haywire where it has been very normal for years and years. Especially problemsome (is that a word? is the weight gain and constipation. > > > > > > > > Friday was the last day I took 50mg and went 2 days with taking none. Then for the last 2 days I took 12.5mg. I've had a 'cramp' in my upper chest (like it's my thyroid swelling or something)and just a general unease. > > > > > > > > I don't know which way to go. I feel like I'm pushing myself right into taking the hormone and I started taking iodine specifically so I would NOT have to do that! > > > > > > > > I read here that many are having the same problems as me so it seems the iodine is having an opposite effect from what we thought it would do. > > > > > > > > I kinda feel like I'm going nuts here and would love some help. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 If you watch the TV or other controlled media, forget about hearing them talk about Codex. Instead, go to youtube.com and search for Codex or Rima Laibow, who is championing the cause against Codex. from Israel > > > > > > > > > > We know that the companion nutrients are needed to make iodine effective. So maybe as you added them it started to work by kicking out toxins and beginning to be used by the thyroid. Your thyroid is in your neck not your chest so you comment about swelling and thyroid doesn't make sense to me. It is normal for your hormones to go " whacky " when taking iodoral as ever gland and mucosal lining use iodine (adrenals, ovaries, uterus - all control sex hormones). > > > > > > > > > > Here are the dosage recommendations: > > > > > > > > > > Magnesium 400 mgs > > > > > Vit C 3,000 - 5,000 mgs > > > > > Selenium 200 - 400 mcg > > > > > Unrefined salt 1/2 tsp + using liberally on food. > > > > > > > > > > Other beneficial things I have found: > > > > > > > > > > Kroeger Herbs Sunny A - 25,000 iU from fish and carrots > > > > > BalanCe - www.vrp.com a vit C supplement containing Vit C, Potassium, Magnesium, Calcium I feel best taking 1-2 scoops 2x per day (I have to work up to that amount for bowel tolerance) > > > > > B6 Complex - I take Pure Encapsulations > > > > > > > > > > Keep in mind most of us are HIGHLY toxic and when you get things moving you will get a healing crisis. I have lived them for years as I work on each new thing. You are always a work in process. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I right or wrong about iodine? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I started taking it about 5 months ago and really thought it could help resolve A LOT of issues I was having, mainly weight gain, sluggishness and constipation. I read up on it and bought Brownstein's book. > > > > > > > > > > I started out with 50mg/day and stayed there without missing a dosage. Early on I began B2, B3 and Vit C. I had been taking mag malate for a few years and recently upped my dosage of it. More recently I started taking selenium, even though it's in my liquid vitamin. > > > > > > > > > > I started seeing my symptoms get worse and my cycle went absolutely haywire where it has been very normal for years and years. Especially problemsome (is that a word? is the weight gain and constipation. > > > > > > > > > > Friday was the last day I took 50mg and went 2 days with taking none. Then for the last 2 days I took 12.5mg. I've had a 'cramp' in my upper chest (like it's my thyroid swelling or something)and just a general unease. > > > > > > > > > > I don't know which way to go. I feel like I'm pushing myself right into taking the hormone and I started taking iodine specifically so I would NOT have to do that! > > > > > > > > > > I read here that many are having the same problems as me so it seems the iodine is having an opposite effect from what we thought it would do. > > > > > > > > > > I kinda feel like I'm going nuts here and would love some help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 This codex alimentarius stuff is very confusing and several persons/institutions use it to make profit. I was very confused about this topic too. But must of the rumors simply are not true, see the following urls for information: http://www.anhcampaign.org/news/codex-misinformation-creates-public-confusion http://www.nutripeople.co.uk/codex_alimentarius.asp Actually bans are coming mainly in Europe so far, banning some Vitamins and Minerals by using a positive list. this will be bad in some cases, good in others since for example bromide is not on the positive list as well, B15 could be banned too which is sad to see. Although it is not officially considered a vitamin, so the positive list might not apply. the whole list(for Europe) is at the end of this document: http://www.anhcampaign.org/files/FSD_final-OJEC-2002.pdf This applies to Europe only, of course. This is the first step, the second one will be maximum dosages that are allowed in a unit of a supplement(i.e. pill) for a ingredient. This positive list is only for vitamins and minerals though, so herbs etc. are not automatically banned, I think. > > Dont you think we would have heard huge opposition to this from the natural supplement market. I mean this is a billion dollar industry and is one of the fastest growing. Also, I would imagine that holistic doctors would be up in arms and shouting from every rooftop by now if this was due to happen. > > I have read about Codex but I was under the impression that there is government opposition to this, not only in the US. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 That's what I was thinking. This is coming too fast (Dec date) for us not to hear from all the health groups. I put some feelers out today to see what people in the market think or know. Steph Am I right or wrong about iodine?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I started taking it about 5 months ago and really thought it could help resolve A LOT of issues I was having, mainly weight gain, sluggishness and constipation. I read up on it and bought Brownstein's book.> > > > > > > > I started out with 50mg/day and stayed there without missing a dosage. Early on I began B2, B3 and Vit C. I had been taking mag malate for a few years and recently upped my dosage of it. More recently I started taking selenium, even though it's in my liquid vitamin.> > > > > > > > I started seeing my symptoms get worse and my cycle went absolutely haywire where it has been very normal for years and years. Especially problemsome (is that a word? is the weight gain and constipation.> > > > > > > > Friday was the last day I took 50mg and went 2 days with taking none. Then for the last 2 days I took 12.5mg. I've had a 'cramp' in my upper chest (like it's my thyroid swelling or something)and just a general unease.> > > > > > > > I don't know which way to go. I feel like I'm pushing myself right into taking the hormone and I started taking iodine specifically so I would NOT have to do that!> > > > > > > > I read here that many are having the same problems as me so it seems the iodine is having an opposite effect from what we thought it would do.> > > > > > > > I kinda feel like I'm going nuts here and would love some help.> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 I wonder what the point of it is? to protect us from ourselves? to protect profits of big pharma? Gracia avproff@... wrote: > > This codex alimentarius stuff is very confusing and several > persons/institutions use it to make profit. I was very confused about > this topic too. But must of the rumors simply are not true, see the > following urls for information: > > http://www.anhcampaign.org/news/codex-misinformation-creates-public-confusion > <http://www.anhcampaign.org/news/codex-misinformation-creates-public-confusion> > http://www.nutripeople.co.uk/codex_alimentarius.asp > <http://www.nutripeople.co.uk/codex_alimentarius.asp> > > Actually bans are coming mainly in Europe so far, banning some > Vitamins and Minerals by using a positive list. this will be bad in > some cases, good in others since for example bromide is not on the > positive list as well, B15 could be banned too which is sad to see. > Although it is not officially considered a vitamin, so the positive > list might not apply. the whole list(for Europe) is at the end of this > document: > > http://www.anhcampaign.org/files/FSD_final-OJEC-2002.pdf > <http://www.anhcampaign.org/files/FSD_final-OJEC-2002.pdf> > > This applies to Europe only, of course. > This is the first step, the second one will be maximum dosages that > are allowed in a unit of a supplement(i.e. pill) for a ingredient. > This positive list is only for vitamins and minerals though, so herbs > etc. are not automatically banned, I think. > > > > > > > > Dont you think we would have heard huge opposition to this from the > natural supplement market. I mean this is a billion dollar industry > and is one of the fastest growing. Also, I would imagine that holistic > doctors would be up in arms and shouting from every rooftop by now if > this was due to happen. > > > > I have read about Codex but I was under the impression that there is > government opposition to this, not only in the US. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Its a mix of protection and institutional interests. Globalisation plays its role too - the more standardized the rules are, the easier it is to produce and trade worldwide. A unregulated marked is good and bad at the same time. If you search the internet you will for example find supplements which include bromide and even praise it as important and healthy for the body. On the other side you can bet that the pharma industry wants more control over the supplement market, Its about money, for both pharma and supplement industry. > > > > > > Dont you think we would have heard huge opposition to this from the > > natural supplement market. I mean this is a billion dollar industry > > and is one of the fastest growing. Also, I would imagine that holistic > > doctors would be up in arms and shouting from every rooftop by now if > > this was due to happen. > > > > > > I have read about Codex but I was under the impression that there is > > government opposition to this, not only in the US. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 I have read that 2/3 of the ppl who need thyroid meds don't get them b/c of " normal " testing. I was one of them--no meds for 30 years after a partial thyroidectomy. how many docs know to order FT3 and FT4? gracia spacejunkie2001us wrote: > > > It is perilous and I have been winging it. I got tested a few years > ago, several times and it always came back 'normal'. With that said, I > agree with you and I'm going to try to see Dr. Don Colbert(?), pretty > sure that's his name. He's here in Apopka, FL. Not sure if anyone here > has ever heard of him or has an opinion. If so I'd love to hear it. > > Also, if there's a good website that I can find a decent provider near > me instead of him, that you all think is savvy on thyroid stuff that > would be great. > > - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Thanks for the info , I live in France and buy my supps on the internet. I have not been stopped by customs as yet but have not imported anything illegal. My sister lives in Malta and does the same thing as I do and she needs to go to Customs each time and open the parcel to prove what they are. > > > > > > > > Dont you think we would have heard huge opposition to this from the > > > natural supplement market. I mean this is a billion dollar industry > > > and is one of the fastest growing. Also, I would imagine that holistic > > > doctors would be up in arms and shouting from every rooftop by now if > > > this was due to happen. > > > > > > > > I have read about Codex but I was under the impression that there is > > > government opposition to this, not only in the US. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Try here first. If you don't find one, let me know. I have other links too! http://thyroid.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ/Ya & zTi=1 & sdn=thyroid & cdn=health & tm=8 & f=22 & tt=14 & bt=1 & bts=1 & zu=http%3A//www.thyroid-info.com/topdocs.htm > > > > > > From: spacejunkie2001us scastor@> > Subject: Am I right or wrong about iodine?> > iodine > > Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 12:07> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I started taking it about 5 months ago and really thought it could help resolve A LOT of issues I was having, mainly weight gain, sluggishness and constipation. I read up on it and bought Brownstein's book.> > > > I started out with 50mg/day and stayed there without missing a dosage. Early on I began B2, B3 and Vit C. I had been taking mag malate for a few years and recently upped my dosage of it. More recently I started taking selenium, even though it's in my liquid vitamin.> > > > I started seeing my symptoms get worse and my cycle went absolutely haywire where it has been very normal for years and years. Especially problemsome (is that a word? is the weight gain and constipation.> > > > Friday was the last day I took 50mg and went 2 days with taking none. Then for the last 2 days I took 12.5mg. I've had a 'cramp' in my upper chest (like it's my thyroid swelling or something)and just a general unease.> > > > I don't know which way to go. I feel like I'm pushing myself right into taking the hormone and I started taking iodine specifically so I would NOT have to do that!> > > > I read here that many are having the same problems as me so it seems the iodine is having an opposite effect from what we thought it would do.> > > > I kinda feel like I'm going nuts here and would love some help.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Sorry I don't buy that even thought that's what they say is the reason. They still sell draino and that's used to make meth as well. They still sell gasoline to any one anytime and a gallon is more dangerous than 5 sticks of dynamite..... Karin > Lugol's has been limited due to the drug makers using it for crystal meth. It is not related to this. It is a DEA enforcement. > > Steph > > > Re: Am I right or wrong about iodine? > > > > According to Codex Alimentarius, any substance (herb, mineral, amino acid, or vitamin) that is not specifically approved is banned! Do a search for Codex Alimentarius on Youtube to educate yourself. > Lugol's has already been partially banned, has it not? There are already restrictions on the concentration and volume you can purchase. I suspect that this is only the first step. MMS has already been banned in Canada, and natural doctors are under the guillotines set up for them by the medical establishment gangsters. > > Iodoral, along with the weak iodine solutions such as Nascent iodine, have so far not been affected by legislation. Hopefully, that will not change. My guess is that Iodoral might become a prescription-only item, obtainable only at high cost. Already, you are required to have a prescription if you order it directly from the Iodoral main website. > > from Israel > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Gosh here it is. (You have to scroll down...)I had a similar problem here in the UK buying 2% hydrogen peroxide. The pharmacist said it was black-listed as it was being used for terrorist bombs. She managed to get it anyway on order. When it came in I asked why she let me have it and she replied because she didn't think I ticked all the boxes for a terrorist.From: Karin <krmaya@...>Subject: Re: Am I right or wrong about iodine?iodine Date: Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 17:20 Sorry I don't buy that even thought that's what they say is the reason. They still sell draino and that's used to make meth as well. They still sell gasoline to any one anytime and a gallon is more dangerous than 5 sticks of dynamite.... . Karin > Lugol's has been limited due to the drug makers using it for crystal meth. It is not related to this. It is a DEA enforcement. > > Steph > > > Re: Am I right or wrong about iodine? > > > > According to Codex Alimentarius, any substance (herb, mineral, amino acid, or vitamin) that is not specifically approved is banned! Do a search for Codex Alimentarius on Youtube to educate yourself. > Lugol's has already been partially banned, has it not? There are already restrictions on the concentration and volume you can purchase. I suspect that this is only the first step. MMS has already been banned in Canada, and natural doctors are under the guillotines set up for them by the medical establishment gangsters. > > Iodoral, along with the weak iodine solutions such as Nascent iodine, have so far not been affected by legislation. Hopefully, that will not change. My guess is that Iodoral might become a prescription- only item, obtainable only at high cost. Already, you are required to have a prescription if you order it directly from the Iodoral main website. > > from Israel > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 I am here and I am not on thyroid hormones. I am classic hypo. It's better since going on iodine. Slow progress but progress. I am at 100 mg/day, five days and 2 days off. Tressler Healthy Transitions Life Coaching 541-791-1464 Help raise funds for Legacy Land Conservancy by searching the internet or shoping online with GoodSearch (www.goodsearch.com). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 , Go to your local supplement/vitamin shop. They will tell you what legislation to write your senators and representatives about. They are organized and they are fighting and if you have't heard about it I'm not sure how. I purchase most of my supplements off the internet and I've gotten surveys asking me to support them. My local vitamin store is very active in making sure we retain the right/privilege to purchase supplements and vitamins. Tressler Healthy Transitions Life Coaching 541-791-1464 Help raise funds for Legacy Land Conservancy by searching the internet or shoping online with GoodSearch (www.goodsearch.com). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 OTC thyroid supplements don't have any hormones in them, so for a person like me who has half a thyroid gland, they don't work. I love Iodoral/lugols--it feeds the whole body and I don't think it suppresses thyroid function, b/c some ppl do just fine on iodine alone. don't be afraid of it! come on to it, as the Mainers say. take enough iodine and hopefully that is all you need. I think Ray Peat is wonderful but not about adrenals. I take 7-keto DHEA and cortef for adrenals. gracia Kemper wrote: > > Do any of you take Nutri-Pak Thyroid Tissue rather than Synthroid or > Armour > or NatureThroid? > > It is an OTC supplement (not classified as a drug), you can buy it here: > > http://www.nourishingfoods.com/nutripak-thyroid-tissue-90-tablets.html > <http://www.nourishingfoods.com/nutripak-thyroid-tissue-90-tablets.html> > > It is from cow rather than porcine (pig). Just curious if there are > any of you taking > this as well as Iodoral. I've read so much about iodine, including > Brownstein's > book, and so much about thryoid (including Brownstein, Broda , > Mercola, > and Shomon) but am still confused if iodine supports or > suppresses the thyroid! > (Ie if one should be on both thyroid and iodine supplementation, > especially if > one has low-normal lab results but a low basal temperature.) > > It seems > ridiculous that I still don't feel like I understand that piece of the > puzzle! If anyone > could enlighten me, I would be grateful! :0) > > I'm also curious if any of you are taking pregnenolone for adrenal > support? I closely > follow Dr Ray Peat and he suggests taking 10-50mg of it a day to > support adrenals. > He claims that excess is secreted, so there's no concern with toxicity > or overdose. > I know others disagree with this assessment. But I'm hearing many of > you talk > about adrenal burnout, and was wondering if this was something you had > tried. > I take 25mg a day. > > http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/thyroid.shtml > <http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/thyroid.shtml> > > http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/three-hormones.shtml > <http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/three-hormones.shtml> > > http://www.iherb.com/Allergy-Research-Group-Nutricology-Pregnenolone-50-60-Score\ d-Tablets/4526?at=0 > <http://www.iherb.com/Allergy-Research-Group-Nutricology-Pregnenolone-50-60-Scor\ ed-Tablets/4526?at=0> > > > > > > > MARKETPLACE > > Parenting Zone: Your community resource for family and home > <http://us.ard./SIG=14n91c3bj/M=493064.12016295.13793596.10835568/D=grp\ health/S=1705061104:MKP1/Y=/EXP=1257998109/L=/B=crNZOUPDhFQ-/J=125799090939\ 7646/K=f2UqKssQK8tM08EELu9oyA/A=5898841/R=0/SIG=11kkq36go/*http://advision.webev\ ents./parentingzone/> > > > <;_ylc=X3oDMTJlNDAzYThmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE3MDE1N\ TMxBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTEwNARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTI1Nzk5MDkwOQ--> > > Switch to: Text-Only > <mailto:iodine-traditional ?subject=Change%20Delivery%20Format:%2\ 0Traditional>, > Daily Digest > <mailto:iodine-digest ?subject=Email%20Delivery:%20Digest> > • Unsubscribe > <mailto:iodine-unsubscribe ?subject=Unsubscribe> • > Terms of Use <> > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009  That's what laws do, here in Canada, 100ml (3.38oz) 5% = 10.99. So far... Bruce Re: Am I right or wrong about iodine? According to Codex Alimentarius, any substance (herb, mineral, amino acid, or vitamin) that is not specifically approved is banned! Do a search for Codex Alimentarius on Youtube to educate yourself.Lugol's has already been partially banned, has it not? There are already restrictions on the concentration and volume you can purchase. I suspect that this is only the first step. MMS has already been banned in Canada, and natural doctors are under the guillotines set up for them by the medical establishment gangsters.Iodoral, along with the weak iodine solutions such as Nascent iodine, have so far not been affected by legislation. Hopefully, that will not change. My guess is that Iodoral might become a prescription- only item, obtainable only at high cost. Already, you are required to have a prescription if you order it directly from the Iodoral main website. from Israel> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 the label for the nutri-pak states it has thyroid tissue (as does the BMR supplement i'm taking); i'm wondering how this is different from the prescription thyroid, and why are these OTC but armour isn't. is it the difference in how much is in it? and where do glandulars fit it? aren't they made from thyroid tissue also? it's all very confusing to me. susan > > > > Do any of you take Nutri-Pak Thyroid Tissue rather than Synthroid or > > Armour > > or NatureThroid? > > > > It is an OTC supplement (not classified as a drug), you can buy it here: > > > > http://www.nourishingfoods.com/nutripak-thyroid-tissue-90-tablets.html > > <http://www.nourishingfoods.com/nutripak-thyroid-tissue-90-tablets.html> > > > > It is from cow rather than porcine (pig). Just curious if there are > > any of you taking > > this as well as Iodoral. I've read so much about iodine, including > > Brownstein's > > book, and so much about thryoid (including Brownstein, Broda , > > Mercola, > > and Shomon) but am still confused if iodine supports or > > suppresses the thyroid! > > (Ie if one should be on both thyroid and iodine supplementation, > > especially if > > one has low-normal lab results but a low basal temperature.) > > > > It seems > > ridiculous that I still don't feel like I understand that piece of the > > puzzle! If anyone > > could enlighten me, I would be grateful! :0) > > > > I'm also curious if any of you are taking pregnenolone for adrenal > > support? I closely > > follow Dr Ray Peat and he suggests taking 10-50mg of it a day to > > support adrenals. > > He claims that excess is secreted, so there's no concern with toxicity > > or overdose. > > I know others disagree with this assessment. But I'm hearing many of > > you talk > > about adrenal burnout, and was wondering if this was something you had > > tried. > > I take 25mg a day. > > > > http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/thyroid.shtml > > <http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/thyroid.shtml> > > > > http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/three-hormones.shtml > > <http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/three-hormones.shtml> > > > > http://www.iherb.com/Allergy-Research-Group-Nutricology-Pregnenolone-50-60-Score\ d-Tablets/4526?at=0 > > <http://www.iherb.com/Allergy-Research-Group-Nutricology-Pregnenolone-50-60-Scor\ ed-Tablets/4526?at=0> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MARKETPLACE > > > > Parenting Zone: Your community resource for family and home > > <http://us.ard./SIG=14n91c3bj/M=493064.12016295.13793596.10835568/D=grp\ health/S=1705061104:MKP1/Y=/EXP=1257998109/L=/B=crNZOUPDhFQ-/J=125799090939\ 7646/K=f2UqKssQK8tM08EELu9oyA/A=5898841/R=0/SIG=11kkq36go/*http://advision.webev\ ents./parentingzone/> > > > > > > <;_ylc=X3oDMTJlNDAzYThmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE3MDE1N\ TMxBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTEwNARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTI1Nzk5MDkwOQ--> > > > > Switch to: Text-Only > > <mailto:iodine-traditional ?subject=Change%20Delivery%20Format:%2\ 0Traditional>, > > Daily Digest > > <mailto:iodine-digest ?subject=Email%20Delivery:%20Digest> > > • Unsubscribe > > <mailto:iodine-unsubscribe ?subject=Unsubscribe> • > > Terms of Use <> > > . > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 www.jcrows.com You can buy 5 percent Lugol's here. They'll ship anywhere. Fibrojay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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