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When I read your post I had to laugh......

My twins were born on different days-Mason was natural/vaginal

& Skylar was c-section(non emergency)The kids were 6hrs & 4mins apart

so after Mason was born,we just waited for Skylar to turn(she was breech)

& boy I wish I had a cocktail waitress in between(I was soooo thirsty)

But as far as the nurses & the doctors went ... it was calm & no was doing

much

just standing around waiting....lol

Amber : )

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HI

You said it's a commercial, it was that commercial for PREVNAR! I am so disgusted with the show that I turned it off!

K

~Kerin~

Mom of Four~

*When you tend a rose, my lad,

A thistle cannot grow*

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In a message dated 2/15/01 7:23:09 PM Pacific Standard Time,

lucasjt@... writes:

<< " oh measles that's not bad right " >>

As if people who do not vaccinate have no idea at all about the diseases!

please!

Parent who don't vax know more about the vaccines AND the diseases than most

who do vaccinate.

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In a message dated 2/15/01 10:32:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, kalima@... writes:

I am sure someone is going to call the doctor in the morning to get a vaccine!!!

all i pray is that none of the parents who are gonna be freaked out by this episode, go and get their kid an "extra" shot just to protect them a little more!!!

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In a message dated 2/15/01 7:50:52 PM Pacific Standard Time,

rlwowens@... writes:

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the net and get info on " other topics " ..are they being misinformed

too??? LOL. >>

Not as long as you do what is approved :) by the white coats

sara in ohio

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In a message dated 2/15/01 10:50:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, rlwowens@... writes:

And besides, the boy could have gotten the measles from someone who was vaccinated...

of course they never mentioned that this does happen, most parents don't even know what a live vaccine means...any of the parents that i asked about what they thoguht the reason was for switching from OPV to IPV, said they had no idea--maybe it is more effect if injected? two of them told me that one...

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My husband and I are so angry at this episode! And I love they had to

get the book out to see what it was. And I wanted to smack with

his attack on the mother.

Can you imagine how someone thinking about vaccines at this moment and

watching this is feeling? I am sure someone is going to call the doctor

in the morning to get a vaccine!!!

Mom to 5

Connecticut

> Okay, it's a commercial, but no one in the er can tell what measles are

because they've never seen a case yet when the mom comes in and says " oh measles

that's not bad right " the er dr. is able to say " Don't let anyone leave his

daycare 1 in 500 children die from the measles " And they did a spinal tap on

him! UGH!

> L.

> Proud mom to Autumn 1-13-97 & Zoe 8-8-00

>

> " In time and with water, everything changes. " Leonardo da Vinci

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My husband and I are so angry at this episode! And I love they had to

get the book out to see what it was. And I wanted to smack with

his attack on the mother.

Can you imagine how someone thinking about vaccines at this moment and

watching this is feeling? I am sure someone is going to call the doctor

in the morning to get a vaccine!!!

Mom to 5

Connecticut

> Okay, it's a commercial, but no one in the er can tell what measles are

because they've never seen a case yet when the mom comes in and says " oh measles

that's not bad right " the er dr. is able to say " Don't let anyone leave his

daycare 1 in 500 children die from the measles " And they did a spinal tap on

him! UGH!

> L.

> Proud mom to Autumn 1-13-97 & Zoe 8-8-00

>

> " In time and with water, everything changes. " Leonardo da Vinci

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I saw we flood NBC with email!

Mom to 5

connecticut

> HI

> You said it's a commercial, it was that commercial for PREVNAR! I am so

> disgusted with the show that I turned it off!

> K

>

> ~Kerin~

> Mom of Four~

> *When you tend a rose, my lad,

> A thistle cannot grow*

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<Oh yeah, they made sure to mention that the mom found her informatin

in parenting magazines and on the internet!>

I know..isn't that ridiculuous!

Since we aren't vaccinating and we " got the info off the net " , we are

bad parents and misinformed..

but what about other parents and people in general who research on

the net and get info on " other topics " ..are they being misinformed

too??? LOL.

And besides, the boy could have gotten the measles from someone who

was vaccinated...

> Great.

> L.

> Proud mom to Autumn 1-13-97 & Zoe 8-8-00

>

> " In time and with water, everything changes. " Leonardo da Vinci

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----- And besides, the boy could have gotten the measles from someone who was vaccinated...

No he supposidly got them in "Europe"! ANd the boy dies in the end. Great.

L.Proud mom to Autumn 1-13-97 & Zoe 8-8-00> Great.> L.> Proud mom to Autumn 1-13-97 & Zoe 8-8-00> > "In time and with water, everything changes." Leonardo da Vinci

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> And besides, the boy could have gotten the measles from someone who

> was vaccinated...

No, he got measles from those wacko's in Europe, certainly not from some

vaccinated american child!

You've really got to hand it to them, they managed to reduce the

anti-vax argument to some unintelligible ramblings by a hysterical

mom... all while they threw around " facts " like the 1 in 500 stat and

" there is no autism connection " .

Funny, the vaccine concerned people take their arguments before

congress, while the vaccine proponents use ER to spew their propaganda

and fear mongering. This only serves to make me more confident in my

decisions (and beliefs of conspiracy theories.... which were also

mentioned and laughed off)

S.

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>

> > Great.

> > L.

> > Proud mom to Autumn 1-13-97 & Zoe 8-8-00

> >

> > " In time and with water, everything changes. " Leonardo da Vinci

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" It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful. "

---- Anton Szandor LaVey

" The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed--

and thus clamorous to be led to safety -- by menacing it with an endless

series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. " -- H.L. Mencken

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I'd like that list!

Thanks :)

Amber

wrote:

> You know....IF we got our act together and mailed....i mean email AND

> snail mail....all the SPONSERS for the show...forget the

> pharmaceutical company obviously...THAT may have some impact.

> I taped the show (havent watched it yet)...let me know if you want a

> listing of all the sponsers anyone.....let me know what you all

> think...and then lets do it.

> in Canada

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I need the addy to ER/NBC to write them. Anyone here have it? I'll post a

copy when I am done.

ER

You know....IF we got our act together and mailed....i mean email AND

snail mail....all the SPONSERS for the show...forget the

pharmaceutical company obviously...THAT may have some impact.

I taped the show (havent watched it yet)...let me know if you want a

listing of all the sponsers anyone.....let me know what you all

think...and then lets do it.

in Canada

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Good idea, . Especially if all the many hundreds of us were

involved. Thanks. Sandy

ER

> You know....IF we got our act together and mailed....i mean email AND

> snail mail....all the SPONSERS for the show...forget the

> pharmaceutical company obviously...THAT may have some impact.

> I taped the show (havent watched it yet)...let me know if you want a

> listing of all the sponsers anyone.....let me know what you all

> think...and then lets do it.

> in Canada

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Here's my letter:

Your recent episode of ER was outrageous, uninformed, and hurtful. With so

much potential to sway the general public's opinion- one would think that

people like you would take the time to research and be informed before

airing shows with such controversial subjects as vaccinations.

Your potrayal of the family who chose not to vaccinate their children as

being ignorant, radical and uninformed was simply wrong. Have you any idea

how painstaking the decision to not vaccinate can be for a parent? If your

writers had taken the time to speak with any non-vaccinating or heaven

forbid- spoken with any parent of a vaccine injured (or killed) child: you

would have found that these parents have educated themselves with furvor on

the topic of vaccinations and on the diseases which they are supposed to

prevent.

It is ironic that parents who take the time to research and make informed

decisions regarding their children's health are potrayed as bad parents-

when generally the parents who have made the choice to vaccinate know

NOTHING at all about the vaccine or it's side effects. What does that tell

you?

There are many aspects to this topic that could have made an enlightening

episode of ER- it is unfortunate that you have let yourselves be bought out

(as your advertisements clearly indicate) and are unable to approach issues

with an open mind and present both sides.

I am extremely disappointed.

Sincerely,

Lori Redfield

Viewer in CT, USA

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Isn't it funny how the internet is deemed as such a wonderful thing, what with all the access to information that all of us are able to research. But when it comes to something such as vaccinations, the internet is now something that is looked down upon because it is full of misinformation. My OB/Gyn said the same thing to me regarding the internet that I have read was on this episode of ER. The propaganda being fed to our conventional medicine doctors is frightening. I'm plan on making a conventional ped VERY unconventional for my precious unborn son.

Joanna

ton, SC

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Wouldn't hurt to write to the actors first hand too.

RE: ER

I need the addy to ER/NBC to write them. Anyone here have it? I'll post acopy when I am done.-----Original Message-----From: [mailto:xtina@...]Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 8:31 AMVaccinations Subject: ERYou know....IF we got our act together and mailed....i mean email ANDsnail mail....all the SPONSERS for the show...forget thepharmaceutical company obviously...THAT may have some impact.I taped the show (havent watched it yet)...let me know if you want alisting of all the sponsers anyone.....let me know what you allthink...and then lets do it. in Canada

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In a message dated 2/16/01 2:46:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, lucasjt@... writes:

Wouldn't hurt to write to the actors first hand too.

I was just thinking the same thing. I never even watched the show - but just by all your comments I have become more than a little ticked off.!

Chelly

San Diego, CA

Mommy to Trenton 8/19/99 - No Shots!

"Time may be a great healer, but it's a lousy beautician."

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At 07:18 PM 02/16/2001 EST, you wrote:

>Isn't it funny how the internet is deemed as such a wonderful thing, what

> But

>when it comes to something such as vaccinations, the internet is now

> My

>OB/Gyn said the same thing to me regarding the internet that I have read

was

> The propaganda being fed to our conventional medicine

> I'm plan on making a conventional ped VERY

>unconventional for my precious unborn son.

>

>Joanna

>ton, SC

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In a message dated 2/16/2001 2:46:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, lucasjt@... writes:

Wouldn't hurt to write to the actors first hand too.

anyone that can find their address i will be glad to forward my letter

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