Re: MMS chemotherapy

[Guest guest]

Well, the way I see it, if it saves you while you are dying, imagine what it

will do if you're not.

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> > > > Dick, ozone is not a man-made chemical. It is 3 molecules of oxygen

> > > together and occurs naturally. The ozone in the atmosphere protects us

> > > from many of the harmful emanations from the sun. In the body the 3rd

> > > oxygen jumps off to kill pathogens. It is a long way from drinking

> > > bleach.(MMS)

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[Guest guest]

You know I think you hit the nail on the head there. This MUST be why people

buy so much stuff for health, and get so little from it.

The argument goes: since a life preserver saves you from drowning, we should

always wear one to breathe better.

bG

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> > > > > Dick, ozone is not a man-made chemical. It is 3 molecules of oxygen

> > > > together and occurs naturally. The ozone in the atmosphere protects us

> > > > from many of the harmful emanations from the sun. In the body the 3rd

> > > > oxygen jumps off to kill pathogens. It is a long way from drinking

> > > > bleach.(MMS)

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[Guest guest]

If you study the chemical composition of MMS you will see that it is bleach with one extra molecule of oxygen. Need I say more? A little study goes a long way and silences a lot of ignorant flapping of lips by non-alternative people who subscribe to the allopathic philosophy that its OK to do harm to the body in order to fight a particular microbe.

As to square waves not being "natural". What is a square wave if not a sudden pulse of voltage/current. What does your own white blood cells do against bacteria and fungus? They output a sudden pulse of voltage/current to kill them. Need I say more? The magnetic pulser also causes a sudden pulse of voltage/current in the body. Also an electrical nerve impulse can be considered a type of square wave since it is a sudden impulse.

Look, if you want to drink oxygentated bleach, be my guest. Drinlk it till you throw up. But this groups is named , not allopathic-oxygenated-bleach-drinking.

[Guest guest]

You wrote :

" A natural form of electricity is lightning. A few people have been hit by

lightening and all their problems go away. They get healed of their ailments.

Gray hair turns black. "

Do you have any sources, links, papers on this claim?

I am just curious ..

In north of Italy, when for the first time they had electricity men will do an

human chain, holding theirs hands.. to get electrify all together.

The claim was that it was good for the heart :-)

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> > Dick, ozone is not a man-made chemical. It is 3 molecules of oxygen together

and occurs naturally. The ozone in the atmosphere protects us from many of the

harmful emanations from the sun. In the body the 3rd oxygen jumps off to kill

pathogens. It is a long way from drinking bleach.(MMS)

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[Guest guest]

I agree you should do no harm, wish the microbes agreed. Microbes are little

chemical factories spewing poisons into your system. Whatever you do it might

be necessary with some of these germs to end them, and fast, or face death,

dismemberment, real egregious harm. Major infection is where if you do nothing,

great harm will occur. Otherwise it's minor infection. In major infection, you

could say if you do nothing, or do something ineffective in favor of something

with some harm to it but effective against the germ, then you don't NEED to do

any harm, the microbe will do that for you.

bG

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> If you study the chemical composition of MMS you will see that it is bleach

with one extra molecule of oxygen. Need I say more? A little study goes a long

way and silences a lot of ignorant flapping of lips by non-alternative people

who subscribe to the allopathic philosophy that its OK to do harm to the body in

order to fight a particular microbe.

>  

> As to square waves not being " natural " . What is a square wave if not a sudden

pulse of voltage/current. What does your own white blood cells do against

bacteria and fungus? They output a sudden pulse of voltage/current to kill them.

Need I say more? The magnetic pulser also causes a sudden pulse of

voltage/current in the body. Also an electrical nerve impulse can be considered

a type of square wave since it is a sudden impulse.

>  

> Look, if you want to drink oxygentated bleach, be my guest. Drinlk it till you

throw up. But this groups is named , not

allopathic-oxygenated-bleach-drinking.

>

[Guest guest]

Chemistry 101

One atom can make a huge bloody difference in compounds. I hardly think that sodium chlorite (NaClO2) being one oxygen atom away from bleach (NaClO), is hardly relevant to how dangerous it is when compared to bleach. As another example, take a look at carbon dioxide (CO2) which we all breath out. It has one atom of oxygen more than carbon monoxide (CO) that have killed humans deader than a door nail. So what?

doug

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If you study the chemical composition of MMS you will see that it is bleach with one extra molecule of oxygen. Need I say more? A little study goes a long way and silences a lot of ignorant flapping of lips by non-alternative people who subscribe to the allopathic philosophy that its OK to do harm to the body in order to fight a particular microbe.

[Guest guest]

On 3/10/2010 10:45:38 AM, Forrest (a57ngel@...) wrote:

> If you study the chemical composition of MMS you will see that it is

> bleach with one extra molecule of oxygen. Need I say more?

>

No, you really shouldn't.

You are demonstrating an abysmal knowledge of basic chemistry.

You should stop venturing there.

> But this groups is named , not

> allopathic-oxygenated-bleach-drinking.

>

List cops need not apply...

Chuck

Eat right, exercise daily, live clean, die anyway.

[Guest guest]

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Re: Re: MMS chemotherapy

Chemistry 101

One atom can make a huge bloody difference in compounds. I hardly think that sodium chlorite (NaClO2) being one oxygen atom away from bleach (NaClO), is hardly relevant to how dangerous it is when compared to bleach. As another example, take a look at carbon dioxide (CO2) which we all breath out. It has one atom of oxygen more than carbon monoxide (CO) that have killed humans deader than a door nail. So what?

doug

----- Original Message -----

If you study the chemical composition of MMS you will see that it is bleach with one extra molecule of oxygen. Need I say more? A little study goes a long way and silences a lot of ignorant flapping of lips by non-alternative people who subscribe to the allopathic philosophy that its OK to do harm to the body in order to fight a particular microbe.

[Guest guest]

Becks inspiration was simply the university study showing that small

microcurrents could disable the HIV virus. He was driven more by practicality

than if it was natural vs. unnatural. That said, I think the reason he chose 4

hz had to do with the earth frequency. Can't remember where I picked that up.

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> > Folks, I do NOT totally agree and if I may add to this discussion,

> > solely for points of clarity, statements alluding to Becks (and others)

> > work in electrification as not being `natural' due to the

> > inducements of and use of, BATTERIES or MAGNETICS, or their related

> > properties such as Sine or Square wave function, it should be sub-noted

> > that in fact, in ORDER not to convolute or mislead on this topic, the

> > earth itself is a HUGH BATTERY and contains all frequencies and

> > harmonics (magnetic properties) that is (applied physics) and used

> > within the electronic world today.

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> > Square waves are simply the `cut-off' frequencies of Sine

> > Functions that are presented when filtered and are as natural as the

> > interaction between the magnetic forces of pass through (and cut-off)

> > and the cancellation effects (or saturation) of the harmonics

> > frequencies exposures of the Sun, Earth and Moon, further expanding (or

> > contracting upon) our galaxy, our neighboring galaxies and the

> > interactions of these bodies (magnetic) on a universal scale (universe).

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> > Please make reference, the human body is also a form of a BATTERY and

> > POLARIZED (based in chemical reactions) and when referencing the

> > `natural effects' of electrical and/or magnetic properties

> > (including solar radiation) One should keep in mind, the electrical

> > properties are only `reproduced' in circuit boards (eg.Tesla,

> > Beck, Rife) to " re-create a natural state " as to maintain a

> > preferred controlled or stabilized existence for usage.

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> > IMO, one should be careful when suggesting or alluding to any electrical

> > properties as being UN-NATURAL.

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[Guest guest]

Russ Torlage said, if I can remember rightly, Beck picked 4 hertz because it

worked the fastest. Note that the schematic says " frequency not critical " . I

heard Beck say in a lecture to keep it under 4 hertz, but not sure what that

context was.

His inspiration, as mine, was the Einstein College of Medicine HIV attenuation

study. I read and reread it dozens of times. However, it does NOT state that

electrifying your blood will rid you of all viruses in the body. Beck said that

study said so, and it does not.

That was apparently just made up or somehow assumed from someone else's comments

to Beck, or whatever, but it is not implied in the study -- at all. Cold germs

in mucous membranes, Herpes, HIV in gut linings, various infections in various

places will not respond to electrifying blood, as the germ never is exposed to

the electricity. Only what is carried in blood is exposed when you electrify

bloodstream. There's plenty of virus that are simply not present in blood to

receive any electricity. If they were, then this would be working all over the

world long ago.

In the college study, virus was exposed directly to electricity in a dish.

blood cells without virus were also exposed to test for cytotoxicity. the only

way they found a virus will be affected is if the current passes directly

through the virus in high enough current for long enough time to alter its

proteins significantly. You can't expect the bloodstream to always contain the

virus you are after, in other words. Sure it might be good to clear blood of

whatever junk is there, but that alone does not assure that viruses elsewhere

will also get the same effects. And the magnetic pulser may help with lymph

node viruses to move them out of the system, but it won't remove them from

mucous membranes for pneumonia, or from sinuses, etc. It still has a ways to go

to develop all the techniques needed to get the electricity safely to the spots

where the virus is actually located.

bG

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> Becks inspiration was simply the university study showing that small

microcurrents could disable the HIV virus. He was driven more by practicality

than if it was natural vs. unnatural. That said, I think the reason he chose 4

hz had to do with the earth frequency. Can't remember where I picked that up.

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[Guest guest]

induction currents have always interested me as a way to provide internal energy

to defeat HIV in gut linings. Just no way to really do that job short of the

massive magnetics like an MRI uses.

bG

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> > > Becks inspiration was simply the university study showing that small

> > microcurrents could disable the HIV virus. He was driven more by

> > practicality than if it was natural vs. unnatural. That said, I think

> > the reason he chose 4 hz had to do with the earth frequency. Can't

> > remember where I picked that up.

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[Guest guest]

Hi BG,

Very nice.

Never the less, when one goes into industrial pasteurizing and

sterilizing procedures, one can find that DC will do the job as long as

it can cross through the tissues. Godzilla has the best chance to do so

if the techniques can be correctly developed. It may need a help of a

magnetic field as I have stated a few times now.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/slavek.krepelka/health/DCandHealth.htm

With kind regards, Slavek.

> Russ Torlage said, if I can remember rightly, Beck picked 4 hertz

> because it worked the fastest. Note that the schematic says " frequency

> not critical " . I heard Beck say in a lecture to keep it under 4 hertz,

> but not sure what that context was.

>

> His inspiration, as mine, was the Einstein College of Medicine HIV

> attenuation study. I read and reread it dozens of times. However, it

> does NOT state that electrifying your blood will rid you of all

> viruses in the body. Beck said that study said so, and it does not.

>

> That was apparently just made up or somehow assumed from someone

> else's comments to Beck, or whatever, but it is not implied in the

> study -- at all. Cold germs in mucous membranes, Herpes, HIV in gut

> linings, various infections in various places will not respond to

> electrifying blood, as the germ never is exposed to the electricity.

> Only what is carried in blood is exposed when you electrify

> bloodstream. There's plenty of virus that are simply not present in

> blood to receive any electricity. If they were, then this would be

> working all over the world long ago.

>

> In the college study, virus was exposed directly to electricity in a

> dish. blood cells without virus were also exposed to test for

> cytotoxicity. the only way they found a virus will be affected is if

> the current passes directly through the virus in high enough current

> for long enough time to alter its proteins significantly. You can't

> expect the bloodstream to always contain the virus you are after, in

> other words. Sure it might be good to clear blood of whatever junk is

> there, but that alone does not assure that viruses elsewhere will also

> get the same effects. And the magnetic pulser may help with lymph node

> viruses to move them out of the system, but it won't remove them from

> mucous membranes for pneumonia, or from sinuses, etc. It still has a

> ways to go to develop all the techniques needed to get the electricity

> safely to the spots where the virus is actually located.

>

> bG

>

> >

> > Becks inspiration was simply the university study showing that small

> microcurrents could disable the HIV virus. He was driven more by

> practicality than if it was natural vs. unnatural. That said, I think

> the reason he chose 4 hz had to do with the earth frequency. Can't

> remember where I picked that up.

> >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

In one of Beck's lectures (can be found on youtube) he states that the 4hz is used as it is approximatly one half of the Schumann resonance (7.83hz). From wikipedia: "The Schumann resonances (SR) are a set of spectrum peaks in the extremely low frequency (ELF) portion of the Earth's electromagnetic field spectrum." Perhaps this is important, perhaps not. Beck thought it was, apparently.

Randy

[Guest guest]

Hi BG,

Yeah, just about, especially if combined with some Godzilla medicine.

With kind regards, Slavek.

Baby_grand wrote:

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> induction currents have always interested me as a way to provide

> internal energy to defeat HIV in gut linings. Just no way to really do

> that job short of the massive magnetics like an MRI uses.

>

> bG

[Guest guest]

Hasn't MMS been proven as an effective treatment against malaria? What is that saying; is it a poison or a remedy, it all depends on the dosage; something like that. Bleach used the wrong way will kill you, but it has been used for decades as an effective water purifier.  So, just because something is a poison does not mean it is not beneficial as a healing agent. The dosage is the key.

OlusholaOn Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Baby_grand <bobluhrs@...> wrote:

 

I think it's extreme, not sensible. MMS is a pretty aggressive substance, very harsh compared with beck's stuff, for instance.

I don't know if it's a good thing to try just for the hell of it, as some people do with beck's stuff. If you're dying, it's another matter then you are forced to look at all sorts of things differently.

[Guest guest]

It's very Elementary my Dear Fellow Researchers and People in Need!

Almost any Chemical, Natural or Synthetic taken internally in excess can be

toxic and or Fatal.

The Trick is Moderation to fool the Bug and Beat it into Submission! Or enhance

the Immune system and provide for Healthier Cell growth. That's just the Basics

but there is far more to the Story of life.

M~R

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> > I think it's extreme, not sensible. MMS is a pretty aggressive substance,

> > very harsh compared with beck's stuff, for instance.

> > I don't know if it's a good thing to try just for the hell of it, as some

> > people do with beck's stuff. If you're dying, it's another matter then you

> > are forced to look at all sorts of things differently.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Look at P.24 of The Beck Protocol by C. Beck

Dick

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> You wrote :

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> " A natural form of electricity is lightning. A few people have been hit by

lightening and all their problems go away. They get healed of their ailments.

Gray hair turns black. "

>

> Do you have any sources, links, papers on this claim?

>

> I am just curious ..

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