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After 1 1/2 years of being part of this group and suffering over 7

attacks... I done an exhaustive search in an effort to cure my gb

problems without surgury. I had initial success with the flushes,

but six months later I had additional symptoms and attacks.

I believe that through this group and extensive research on the

internet... and yes, God's grace... I may be completely cured of my

gb problems.

For those of you who co0ntinue to suffer... I belive it is important

to first identify if you have calcium stones or cholestorol stones.

Most of us have cholestorol stones that often do not show up on the

ultrasound, but hurt like the dickens! More than 80% of all stones

are cholestorol stones.

I do not have the cure for calcium stones, but perhaps breakstone tea

helps... For cholestorol stones I am convinced that three things

will significantly cure you and it is NOT avoiding certain " alergic "

foods. I too had many foods that were taken off my list when I

suffered gb problems. Pasta, tomatoes, chocolate, etc. caused

significant indigestion. Now I eat everything... except dairy with

NO problems...

The cure... I said it before... but now more convinced...

Granulated LECITHIN. For the past 5 months I have been taking a

tablespoon of granulated Lecithin each morning in an ounce of oj and

some flax seed oil. I feel terrific, lots of energy and am regular

again. Most of all... there is NO gnawing discomfort or pain in the

gb or middle back area like before. Again... I eat whatever I want

except milk and icecream, with very little cheese.

My reasearch indicates that cholestorol stones build up in both the

gb and the liver caused by clumping cholestorol around calcium

specs. The way to cure the problem is to get rid of the calcium

specs by avoiding dairy and taking lecithin that will give you the

Choline and other chemicals needed to smooth out the bile.

Do a simple search of Lecithin on the internet and especially in the

Medical school sites and you will find that research has shown:

Lecithin has cure gb and fatty liver problems in both humans and

research animals. Most reknown alternative med doctors list Lecithin

as a #1 approach to curing the problem.

The following is just a little bit of some information on the

subject. Perhaps I will change my tune with another attack... but

right now... I feel cured!

I hate to hear that someone is going into surgery BEFORE they have

tried flaxseed oil and Lecithin to cure their prolems. Type in

Lecithin Fatty Liver into your search engine and you will find a

wealth of knowledge and the possible cure to your health problems.

ken A. (formally kalexan328@...).

Supplemental choline (in the form of lecithin) has reversed fatty

liver in TPN patients.60 In the study patients had been treated for

an average of 7 years with TPN solutions providing 17 kJ/kg BW/d (4

kcal/kg/d) as 20% Intralipid (delivering approximately 6 mg/kg BW/d

[50 µmoles/kg/d] of choline as phosphatidylcholine).60

These patients had low plasma choline concentrations (average 6.3

µmoles/L). In a double-blind protocol, 20 g commercial lecithin (30%

phosphatidylcholine, delivering approximately 36 mg choline/kg BW/d

[300 µmoles choline/kg/d]) or placebo (soybean oil) was administered

twice a day for 6 weeks. By the end of this experimental period,

plasma choline had risen by more than 50% in the lecithin group, and

decreased by 25% in the placebo group.

Fatty liver was assessed through computerized tomography. In the

lecithin group, liver density increased (fat decreased) by

approximately 30% (p<0.05). In the placebo group liver density

increased by only 8% (nonsignificant). This strongly suggests choline

is an essential nutrient during long-term TPN.

Supplemental choline, in the form of lecithin, has reversed fatty

liver in patients receiving total parenteral nutrition (TPN). 60

Research by Lieber and colleagues suggests lecithin may also protect

the liver independently of providing choline. In two studies baboons

were fed diets high in alcohol with or without added lecithin for up

to 8 years. About 80% of those not provided supplemental lecithin

developed liver fibrosis or cirrhosis, characterized by collagen

accumulation, fibrosis, and scarring. However, no animals fed

lecithin developed fibrosis or cirrhosis.61,62 An earlier study

showed choline did not provide this protective effect.63 In vitro

studies showed lecithin increased the activity of hepatic

collagenase, suggesting lecithin helps prevent alcohol-induced

fibrosis and cirrhosis, partly by promoting collagen breakdown.62

In an editorial on diet and liver disease, Dr. Graeme Macdonald and

Dr. Lucey, from the University of Michigan Medical Center in

Ann Arbor stated, " Perhaps the most exciting demonstration that diet

may have a beneficial effect in protecting against liver injury has

come from Lieber et al, who reported recently that long-term

supplementation with phosphatidylcholine protected

baboons...chronically fed alcohol from developing liver fibrosis and

cirrhosis. " 64 Lieber's group is currently conducting a multicenter

clinical trial of lecithin supplements in alcoholic patients.

" Perhaps the most exciting demonstration that diet may have a

beneficial effect in protecting against liver injury has come from

Lieber et al, who reported recently that long-term supplementation

with phosphatidylcholine protected baboons . . . chronically fed

alcohol from developing liver fibrosis and cirrhosis. " 64

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Subject: The cure for a gb problems and fatty liver

After 1 1/2 years of being part of this group and suffering over 7

attacks... I done an exhaustive search in an effort to cure my gb

problems without surgury. I had initial success with the flushes,

but six months later I had additional symptoms and attacks.

I believe that through this group and extensive research on the

internet... and yes, God's grace... I may be completely cured of my

gb problems.

For those of you who co0ntinue to suffer... I belive it is important

to first identify if you have calcium stones or cholestorol stones.

Most of us have cholestorol stones that often do not show up on the

ultrasound, but hurt like the dickens! More than 80% of all stones

are cholestorol stones.

I do not have the cure for calcium stones, but perhaps breakstone tea

helps... For cholestorol stones I am convinced that three things

will significantly cure you and it is NOT avoiding certain " alergic "

foods. I too had many foods that were taken off my list when I

suffered gb problems. Pasta, tomatoes, chocolate, etc. caused

significant indigestion. Now I eat everything... except dairy with

NO problems...

The cure... I said it before... but now more convinced...

Granulated LECITHIN. For the past 5 months I have been taking a

tablespoon of granulated Lecithin each morning in an ounce of oj and

some flax seed oil. I feel terrific, lots of energy and am regular

again. Most of all... there is NO gnawing discomfort or pain in the

gb or middle back area like before. Again... I eat whatever I want

except milk and icecream, with very little cheese.

My reasearch indicates that cholestorol stones build up in both the

gb and the liver caused by clumping cholestorol around calcium

specs. The way to cure the problem is to get rid of the calcium

specs by avoiding dairy and taking lecithin that will give you the

Choline and other chemicals needed to smooth out the bile.

Do a simple search of Lecithin on the internet and especially in the

Medical school sites and you will find that research has shown:

Lecithin has cure gb and fatty liver problems in both humans and

research animals. Most reknown alternative med doctors list Lecithin

as a #1 approach to curing the problem.

The following is just a little bit of some information on the

subject. Perhaps I will change my tune with another attack... but

right now... I feel cured!

I hate to hear that someone is going into surgery BEFORE they have

tried flaxseed oil and Lecithin to cure their prolems. Type in

Lecithin Fatty Liver into your search engine and you will find a

wealth of knowledge and the possible cure to your health problems.

ken A. (formally kalexan328@...).

Supplemental choline (in the form of lecithin) has reversed fatty

liver in TPN patients.60 In the study patients had been treated for

an average of 7 years with TPN solutions providing 17 kJ/kg BW/d (4

kcal/kg/d) as 20% Intralipid (delivering approximately 6 mg/kg BW/d

[50 µmoles/kg/d] of choline as phosphatidylcholine).60

These patients had low plasma choline concentrations (average 6.3

µmoles/L). In a double-blind protocol, 20 g commercial lecithin (30%

phosphatidylcholine, delivering approximately 36 mg choline/kg BW/d

[300 µmoles choline/kg/d]) or placebo (soybean oil) was administered

twice a day for 6 weeks. By the end of this experimental period,

plasma choline had risen by more than 50% in the lecithin group, and

decreased by 25% in the placebo group.

Fatty liver was assessed through computerized tomography. In the

lecithin group, liver density increased (fat decreased) by

approximately 30% (p<0.05). In the placebo group liver density

increased by only 8% (nonsignificant). This strongly suggests choline

is an essential nutrient during long-term TPN.

Supplemental choline, in the form of lecithin, has reversed fatty

liver in patients receiving total parenteral nutrition (TPN). 60

Research by Lieber and colleagues suggests lecithin may also protect

the liver independently of providing choline. In two studies baboons

were fed diets high in alcohol with or without added lecithin for up

to 8 years. About 80% of those not provided supplemental lecithin

developed liver fibrosis or cirrhosis, characterized by collagen

accumulation, fibrosis, and scarring. However, no animals fed

lecithin developed fibrosis or cirrhosis.61,62 An earlier study

showed choline did not provide this protective effect.63 In vitro

studies showed lecithin increased the activity of hepatic

collagenase, suggesting lecithin helps prevent alcohol-induced

fibrosis and cirrhosis, partly by promoting collagen breakdown.62

In an editorial on diet and liver disease, Dr. Graeme Macdonald and

Dr. Lucey, from the University of Michigan Medical Center in

Ann Arbor stated, " Perhaps the most exciting demonstration that diet

may have a beneficial effect in protecting against liver injury has

come from Lieber et al, who reported recently that long-term

supplementation with phosphatidylcholine protected

baboons...chronically fed alcohol from developing liver fibrosis and

cirrhosis. " 64 Lieber's group is currently conducting a multicenter

clinical trial of lecithin supplements in alcoholic patients.

" Perhaps the most exciting demonstration that diet may have a

beneficial effect in protecting against liver injury has come from

Lieber et al, who reported recently that long-term supplementation

with phosphatidylcholine protected baboons . . . chronically fed

alcohol from developing liver fibrosis and cirrhosis. " 64

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Thanks !

That is the info I am referring to... only 60% cure rate in humans

and 80% in baboons... I guess that means a 70% cure rate for me!

Here is some more research I just came across...

Authors:

Ayyad N; Cohen BI; Ohshima A; Mosbach EH

Abstract:

We examined the effect of diet on gallstone incidence and the

composition of biliary phosphatidylcholines in methyltestosterone-

treated female hamsters. These hamsters were fed a nutritionally

adequate purified lithogenic diet containing 2% corn oil, 4%

butterfat, 0.3% cholesterol, and 0.05% methyltestosterone, resulting

in a cholesterol gallstone incidence of 86%. This incidence was

lowered when mono- and polyunsaturated fats or fatty acids were added

to the diet: 2.5% oleic acid resulted in total prevention of

cholesterol cholelithiasis, 2.5% linoleic acid, and 4% safflower oil

(78% linoleic acid content) reduced gallstone incidence to 26 and 8%,

respectively. An additional 4% butterfat (29% oleic acid content)

produced gallstones in 50% of the animals. At the end of the 6-wk

feeding period, the bile of all hamsters was supersaturated with

cholesterol. The major biliary phosphatidylcholine species in all

groups were (sn-1-sn-2): 16:0-18:2, 16:0-18:1, 18:0-18:2, 16:0-20:4,

and 18:2-18:2. The safflower oil- and linoleic acid-fed hamsters

exhibited an enrichment of 16:0-18:2 (16-18%); added butterfat or

oleic acid increased the proportion of 16:0-18:1 (9 and 25%,

respectively). We conclude that the phosphatidylcholine molecular

species in female hamster bile can be altered by dietary fats/fatty

acids and that mono- and polyunsaturated fatty acids play a role in

suppressing the induced cholelithiasis.

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