Re: Ready for Surgery

March 29, 2001

Good luck . You are doing the right thing for you. It is mental torture.

I am sure you will feel much better. Keep in touch! laura

----- Original Message -----

From: <gmrosario@...>

Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 9:22 AM

Subject: Ready for Surgery

>

> Hi all. I'm ready for surgery. I had enough of the pain, the mental

> and emotional torture of having Gallstones. I tried cleansing but it

> is not working for me. I have a calcified stone and everytime I

> flush with 100 or so stones come out, I feel worst for a week. After

> that I feel okay but not fully. I still have the pain. Sometimes I

> feel pain on other places. It is spreading on my left upper abdomen

> and my chest. I get the blood test result and my pancreas is elavated

> and liver is elavated. I tried keeping it but I'm scared of what

> other complications it will cause me in the future if I don't remove

> it. I want to get it over with. I'm only 27, 95 lbs, and does not

> have any children yet and would like to have them soon. I want my

> old life back but of course, it will not be the same. I will be

> healthier this time.

>

> For those that had the surgery, any advice on the surgery? I have an

> appointment ready for next Thursday. Also, I would like to know if

> the symptoms are still there after surgery. Thank you so much.

>

> Collected testimonials:

> http:///messages/gallstones-testimonials

> You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the

Gallstones group on 's groups.

> Post message: gallstones

> Subscribe: gallstones-subscribe

> Unsubscribe: gallstones-unsubscribe

> URL to this page: gallstones

> By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR

yourself!

> List Archives: http:///messages/gallstones

> Web Site for more information: http://home.online.no/~dusan/gallstones/

> http://www.liverdoctor.com/

> http://www.sensiblehealth.com/

> Have a nice day !

>

March 29, 2001

Hi ,

I had my surgery two months ago and I feel excellent

in health and spirits. Since you are very young you

would have no problem with the surgery. I was walking

3 hours after the surgery and it was an outpatient

procedure. I experienced no pain. You need to find a

good surgeon who has done lot of these kinds of

surgeries.

Go for it it . Don't suffer any more.

Ajit

--- gmrosario@... wrote:

>

> Hi all. I'm ready for surgery. I had enough of the

> pain, the mental

> and emotional torture of having Gallstones. I tried

> cleansing but it

> is not working for me. I have a calcified stone and

> everytime I

> flush with 100 or so stones come out, I feel worst

> for a week. After

> that I feel okay but not fully. I still have the

> pain. Sometimes I

> feel pain on other places. It is spreading on my

> left upper abdomen

> and my chest. I get the blood test result and my

> pancreas is elavated

> and liver is elavated. I tried keeping it but I'm

> scared of what

> other complications it will cause me in the future

> if I don't remove

> it. I want to get it over with. I'm only 27, 95

> lbs, and does not

> have any children yet and would like to have them

> soon. I want my

> old life back but of course, it will not be the

> same. I will be

> healthier this time.

>

> For those that had the surgery, any advice on the

> surgery? I have an

> appointment ready for next Thursday. Also, I would

> like to know if

> the symptoms are still there after surgery. Thank

> you so much.

>

March 30, 2001

<< You're young yet and it would seem a shame to be so

long without a gallbladder, the rest of your life can be a pretty long time.

I can only wish you the best on your choice.

Dale >>

***************************************

Hi, Dale,

Good e-mail. I hope you still continue to do good, plus continue to improve.

Yes, even though I'm trying hard to keep my GB because of the other

consequences, there could be a chance that I'll lost it. Plus I think about

it, I just don't have the money for medical care. Not having any insurance

makes it hard. I don't know any doctors at all around me that would work

with me. They are mostly pretty narrow-minded around here. Some of the ones

that I've talked to mock any kind of natural healing methods. I believe the

medical profession needs a huge overhaul.

You talked about essential fatty acids, yes, indeed we need these. Remember

all the hoopla about " no fat, no fat, no fat " several years ago? That is

very dangerous for everyone. We need those fatty acids in raw nuts,

avocados, olive oil, sesame oil, etc. Our bodies thrive on them.

Well, I hope you do continue to do good. Please keep us updated.

Take care,

Susie

March 30, 2001

;

I can't help but to wonder about some of the process to which you set

yourself when doing a flush. I know that for the most common of stones, the

cholesterol type, that laying on the right side is recommended for getting

the stones into the common bile duct. With calcified stones it requires

changing the position of the body to get the neck of the gallbladder set so

the stones can get to its neck.

I've been quite fortunate in being able to rid myself of the stone the

doctors wanted to cutout in March of '99'. I can't say it was a pleasant

journey, in fact, it was like living a nightmare worrying about whether I

would be waking up with one of my many attacks. I would often fall off the

dietary wagon and eat things I knew would potentially cause me to have

another attack. Fortunately for me I had a doctor who worked with me in my

process of self cure and would get me a prescription for a pain medication

to help me thorough the bad nights. I probably took somewhere in the

neighborhood of 90 to a hundred roxicets over a seven month time period. At

the time of my last sever attack, which sent me to the hospital, I had

around fifteen pills left. I still have 3 left from the last attack and have

used them only for when my arthritis would get to a point where I just

couldn't stand it anymore. So, I would say that less than one a month for

the last one and a half years isn't doing too bad.

When I first learned about my condition I didn't know of any support groups

from which to get help and just attempted things pretty much by trusting the

information I did gather. I however wasn't clued in to the need for certain

fats while attempting to really avoid all forms of fats. The liver and the

gallbladder need certain fats for them to function correctly. That is why

they are considered Essential Fatty Acids.

In my desire to be really good about avoiding fats, after my second to the

last attack which occurred a month before the October of '99' attack, I was

hell bent on making sure I didn't consume any fats at all. I avoided all

sorts of fats and suffered perhaps the most sever of attacks within a month

of doing so. In fact I had some serious liver damage showing up but I also

showed as cleared of all stones and my gallbladder, liver and pancreas

looked really good, but, there was indications of liver damage and hepatitis

A & C.

Since learning about the need for essential fatty acids, and from where to

obtain them, I haven't had one gallbladder attack. In fact, I've been able

to get away with eating foods I shouldn't even consider eating, like the

pepperoni pizza I had tonight, (shame, shame) because I'll feel it, but it

shouldn't cause me 'pain'. I'm already feeling it as I write but I can

pretty much be sure that taking the enzymes I do along with the EFAs I'm

going to be just fine.

You noted the number of stones you've gotten out as in the hundreds. I can

assure you that I can say that I had them in the hundreds with some

sittings. I'm quite sure this is why the doctor was concerned because of the

enlarged bile ducts in my liver that showed with the ultrasound done at my

last attack in '99'.

I can really appreciate your feeling the need to get surgery and I hope

you're also aware that there is a group of those that have had the surgery

from which you can get some great encouragement too. Not all can or will be

able to succeed in keeping their gallbladders, or other organs, considering

the state we're all pretty much in at this time, some by heredity and others

by abuses or accident. You're young yet and it would seem a shame to be so

long without a gallbladder, the rest of your life can be a pretty long time.

I can only wish you the best on your choice.

Dale

Da_@...

----- Original Message -----

From: <gmrosario@...>

Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 6:22 AM