Joan

[Guest guest]

Oh Joan,

I am sooo sorry to hear about your

daughter. I will be praying for youand your family. I am sure all will turn

out ok. Take care, and keep us posted.

Big Hugs,

Re:

Joan

Thanks . If it helps someone

then it was all worth while.

I may disappear for some while. My

daughter has gone missing and I am more than a bit stressed right now. I also

want to keep the telephone lines clear.

Thanks. Joan

Call from the GI

>

>

> >

> >

> > Hi All ...

> > Today, as I mentioned, I am having quite

a problem keeping

anything

> > down ... and it all started yesterday

morning with 1/4 banana

(Joan,

> > I will take your info to heart)

> > I decided to fax a note to the GI's

office to the nurse, just

> > bringing her up to date, asking if all

of the tests are in. I

> > mentioned what a time I am having today

and that I have now lost

32

> > pounds since early Dec. I also

wrote thatI am very frustrated

with

> > the situation, and do not have a doctors

appt until March. I

truly

> > expected to have the nurse give me a

call back tomorrow.

> > I just got off the phone with a

SURPRISE call from the GI doctor.

> > We really had the best conversation I

have had with him so far.

He

> > said he did not realize my appointment

is not until March, so he

> > decided to call and go over some things

with me.

> > First, he said that he and his

partners truly believe I DO have

> > Achalasia, but it is not classic.

He told me he is really a

> > conservative doctor, therefore he would

truly prefer to do the

BOTOX,

> > because of the least amount of

risk. He said their practice has

> > about 8 diagnosed cases of Achalasia,

and only one had the

> > dialation. I asked if he thought

any of those patients might

> > consider talking with me. He will

check, but no guarantee.

> > I told him about this website and

explained that although alot of

> > the people that post here are very

frustrated and ill, there is

> > really so much information available and

alot of POSITIVE

support. I

> > mentioned about the scar tissue when

going for surgery and he

said he

> > was not aware that was a problem.

He told me he could not get

over

> > how much I learned since our last

conversation. After talking

with

> > me, he said he thinks I should consult

with a surgeon and see if

they

> > thought that should be my first

option. He told me he will see

if he

> > can find one for me that specializes in

Achalasia. The entire

> > conversation made me feel so much

better. Just having a little

> > knowledge changes everything .... so do

not be afraid to learn!

> > He told me he would call me back

this week with the name of a

> > surgeon. I told him I know of Dr.

Rice in Cleveland, but I really

> > preferred to stay in Pittsburgh.

Isn't it funny how that note

> > written in frustration, sparked something

good I was definately

not

> > expecting!

> > Just had to

share. Thanks for listening

..... Kathie

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear God Joan:

I hope she turns up promptly. Our prayers are with you.

Peggy

> > Great stuff Kathie. Just shows you that taking charge of your own

> treatment

> > and not being passive actually works !

> > Hugs,

> > Joan

> > Call from the GI

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi All ...

> > > Today, as I mentioned, I am having quite a problem keeping

> anything

> > > down ... and it all started yesterday morning with 1/4 banana

> (Joan,

> > > I will take your info to heart)

> > > I decided to fax a note to the GI's office to the nurse, just

> > > bringing her up to date, asking if all of the tests are in. I

> > > mentioned what a time I am having today and that I have now lost

> 32

> > > pounds since early Dec. I also wrote thatI am very frustrated

> with

> > > the situation, and do not have a doctors appt until March. I

> truly

> > > expected to have the nurse give me a call back tomorrow.

> > > I just got off the phone with a SURPRISE call from the GI doctor.

> > > We really had the best conversation I have had with him so far.

> He

> > > said he did not realize my appointment is not until March, so he

> > > decided to call and go over some things with me.

> > > First, he said that he and his partners truly believe I DO have

> > > Achalasia, but it is not classic. He told me he is really a

> > > conservative doctor, therefore he would truly prefer to do the

> BOTOX,

> > > because of the least amount of risk. He said their practice has

> > > about 8 diagnosed cases of Achalasia, and only one had the

> > > dialation. I asked if he thought any of those patients might

> > > consider talking with me. He will check, but no guarantee.

> > > I told him about this website and explained that although alot of

> > > the people that post here are very frustrated and ill, there is

> > > really so much information available and alot of POSITIVE

> support. I

> > > mentioned about the scar tissue when going for surgery and he

> said he

> > > was not aware that was a problem. He told me he could not get

> over

> > > how much I learned since our last conversation. After talking

> with

> > > me, he said he thinks I should consult with a surgeon and see if

> they

> > > thought that should be my first option. He told me he will see

> if he

> > > can find one for me that specializes in Achalasia. The entire

> > > conversation made me feel so much better. Just having a little

> > > knowledge changes everything .... so do not be afraid to learn!

> > > He told me he would call me back this week with the name of a

> > > surgeon. I told him I know of Dr. Rice in Cleveland, but I really

> > > preferred to stay in Pittsburgh. Isn't it funny how that note

> > > written in frustration, sparked something good I was definately

> not

> > > expecting!

> > > Just had to share. Thanks for listening .... Kathie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks Much Maggie -- glad we won't all need to bug Joan for it right now

--Peggy

> Hello Jan

> In reference to your comment:

>

>

> Joan, Is it possible for you to send me the pamphlet i would be really

> interested to read it and so would my kids.

>

> Jan, I know Joan sent you the phamplet, but for others who

> would like to read it, it can be found on our website. On the

> left hand side, click on Files and then look for " Achalasia

> Pamphlet " .

>

> Maggie

[Guest guest]

Hello Joan,

Please take care of your family first. I will place you and your

daughter in my " prayer vase " for her quick and healthy return. It

does not matter how old they get, they are still our " children " and

we never get over that. Stay well.

Kathie in Pittsburgh (no response necessary)

> > Great stuff Kathie. Just shows you that taking charge of your

own

> treatment

> > and not being passive actually works !

> > Hugs,

> > Joan

> > Call from the GI

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi All ...

> > > Today, as I mentioned, I am having quite a problem keeping

> anything

> > > down ... and it all started yesterday morning with 1/4 banana

> (Joan,

> > > I will take your info to heart)

> > > I decided to fax a note to the GI's office to the nurse, just

> > > bringing her up to date, asking if all of the tests are in. I

> > > mentioned what a time I am having today and that I have now

lost

> 32

> > > pounds since early Dec. I also wrote thatI am very

frustrated

> with

> > > the situation, and do not have a doctors appt until March. I

> truly

> > > expected to have the nurse give me a call back tomorrow.

> > > I just got off the phone with a SURPRISE call from the GI

doctor.

> > > We really had the best conversation I have had with him so

far.

> He

> > > said he did not realize my appointment is not until March, so

he

> > > decided to call and go over some things with me.

> > > First, he said that he and his partners truly believe I DO

have

> > > Achalasia, but it is not classic. He told me he is really a

> > > conservative doctor, therefore he would truly prefer to do

the

> BOTOX,

> > > because of the least amount of risk. He said their practice

has

> > > about 8 diagnosed cases of Achalasia, and only one had the

> > > dialation. I asked if he thought any of those patients might

> > > consider talking with me. He will check, but no guarantee.

> > > I told him about this website and explained that although

alot of

> > > the people that post here are very frustrated and ill, there

is

> > > really so much information available and alot of POSITIVE

> support. I

> > > mentioned about the scar tissue when going for surgery and he

> said he

> > > was not aware that was a problem. He told me he could not

get

> over

> > > how much I learned since our last conversation. After

talking

> with

> > > me, he said he thinks I should consult with a surgeon and see

if

> they

> > > thought that should be my first option. He told me he will

see

> if he

> > > can find one for me that specializes in Achalasia. The entire

> > > conversation made me feel so much better. Just having a

little

> > > knowledge changes everything .... so do not be afraid to

learn!

> > > He told me he would call me back this week with the name of a

> > > surgeon. I told him I know of Dr. Rice in Cleveland, but I

really

> > > preferred to stay in Pittsburgh. Isn't it funny how that note

> > > written in frustration, sparked something good I was

definately

> not

> > > expecting!

> > > Just had to share. Thanks for listening .... Kathie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Joan, I hope your daughter is safe and home soon. I will pray for her and your family.

in Suffolk

[Guest guest]

Hi Tamara,

I have had A probably for along time, because when I first got symptoms and

had a Barium x-ray the E was grossly distended already and I also have a

diverticulum.

I had a myotomy plus a hiatus hernia repair, but this did not work at all

and I was worse off than before. I battled on for a while till I could not

get anything down. At this point I found myself a new gastroenterologist who

specialized in A. He did a balloon dilatation and I had about 80% or so

improvement. What I realised then - I had done lots of research about A -

was that my oesophagus was so dilated, full of pockets and it would not

improve at any stage. I also figured that solid food would stick in those

pockets and ferment and cause endless heartburn and pain so I decided to eat

mainly liquid food - home made soup etc. That was 12 months ago. In

September last year my cardiologist sent me to a friend of his a

cardiothoracic surgeon who told be frankly that in his experience no other

procedures would help and that it was a waste of time and money to try. He

recommended I have an oesophagectomy. I was naturally shocked but I asked

him to tell me all about the operation he would do. He would remove the

whole E in my case and pull the stomach up and join it there. He told me

that I would eventually be able to eat almost normally, but in smaller

portions. He said that with those who have a total oesophagectomy there is

no problem with acid reflux, because they 'cut the tube that brings acid to

the stomach'. I would still have to sleep with my top elevated but not as

much as now. I would have to avoid bending down, but most people seem to

manage that.

I told him it was all to much of a shock, I would come back to him ! I liked

him and trust him but I do not like the hospital he works at. I was told of

another surgeon who specialises in oesophageal surgery and I am waiting for

an appointment to see him and, because I like the hospital he works at, will

settle for surgery with him if I like him. He works in a city an hours drive

from my home where as the other one was 10 minutes from home so that is a

disadvantage.

I am 67 so there is not much time left before I may become too decrepit to

have surgery so I must go now.

I cannot understand how they can say you are too young and that you would

not live long afterwards!!

There are several who have had partial oesophagectomy's - Jo and Jan are two

that come to mind. They are lovely people - still young and would be happy

to chat to you. is much older - he as had a total oesophagectomy and

says it was a complete success.He does have anti acid medication - a proton

pump inhibitor (like Nexium)

How far are you from the Cleveland Clinic ? Dr Rice is the A expert and he

will do an oesophagectomy - partial or full if he thinks it is warranted. He

has just recently told one of the members that she has had all the surgery

and dilatations and he now recommended an oesophagectomy - she is young - a

mother of a 12 year old. We have not heard form her for a while so I assume

she is recovering.

Tamara I have not kept up with all the posts, but if you feel an

oesophagectomy is the answer then go for it ! Just find a surgeon who has

done them before. I can understand how you feel - I am there too.

Hugs,

Joan

JOAN

>

>

> I READ IN YOUR POST THAT YOU ARE GOING TO REMOVE THE E HOW FAR HAVE

> YOU LOOKED INTO THIS DOES IT MEAN IF IT IS REMOVED THEN WE CAN EAT

> NORMALLY JUST IN SMALLER PORTIONS RIGHT AND WHAT ABOUT THE ACID

> REFLUX ASSUMING YOU HAVE IT I DO AND I HAVE TRIED TO TALK TO MY DR'S

> ABOUT REMOVING BUT THEY SAY IT IS TO SOON AND I AM TO YOUNG I WOULD

> NOT LIVE LONG AFTER THAT WICH IS STRANGE CUZ SINCE I'M YOUNG YOU

> WOULD THINK THAT I WOULD DO BETTER 27 TODAY TO BE CORRECT ANY WAY DO

> YOU STILL REGURGITATE YOUR FOOD OR IS IT JUST DIFFUCLT TO SWALLOW I

> HAVE STOPPED THROWING EVERYTHING UP BUT WHITE FOAM AND STOMACH BILE I

> HAVE HAD THE MYOTOMY AND THE PHENAMATIC DILATION AS WELL AS SEVERAL

> BALLOON DILATIONS WHEN THE ATTACKS COME ON I GET THE DRY HEAVES SO

> BAD THAT I WISH SOMETHING WOULD COME UP JUST SO IT WOULD STOP I HAVE

> SO MANY ? BUT NOT ENOUGH TIME I'M AT WORK HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU SOON

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

well if JO AND JAN are out there I would love to hear from them or

any one else that has had this procedure done I'm at work so I gotta

go hope to hear from you soon Tamara

> Hi Tamara,

> I have had A probably for along time, because when I first got

symptoms and

> had a Barium x-ray the E was grossly distended already and I also

have a

> diverticulum.

> I had a myotomy plus a hiatus hernia repair, but this did not work

at all

> and I was worse off than before. I battled on for a while till I

could not

> get anything down. At this point I found myself a new

gastroenterologist who

> specialized in A. He did a balloon dilatation and I had about 80%

or so

> improvement. What I realised then - I had done lots of research

about A -

> was that my oesophagus was so dilated, full of pockets and it would

not

> improve at any stage. I also figured that solid food would stick in

those

> pockets and ferment and cause endless heartburn and pain so I

decided to eat

> mainly liquid food - home made soup etc. That was 12 months ago. In

> September last year my cardiologist sent me to a friend of his a

> cardiothoracic surgeon who told be frankly that in his experience

no other

> procedures would help and that it was a waste of time and money to

try. He

> recommended I have an oesophagectomy. I was naturally shocked but I

asked

> him to tell me all about the operation he would do. He would remove

the

> whole E in my case and pull the stomach up and join it there. He

told me

> that I would eventually be able to eat almost normally, but in

smaller

> portions. He said that with those who have a total oesophagectomy

there is

> no problem with acid reflux, because they 'cut the tube that brings

acid to

> the stomach'. I would still have to sleep with my top elevated but

not as

> much as now. I would have to avoid bending down, but most people

seem to

> manage that.

> I told him it was all to much of a shock, I would come back to

him ! I liked

> him and trust him but I do not like the hospital he works at. I was

told of

> another surgeon who specialises in oesophageal surgery and I am

waiting for

> an appointment to see him and, because I like the hospital he works

at, will

> settle for surgery with him if I like him. He works in a city an

hours drive

> from my home where as the other one was 10 minutes from home so

that is a

> disadvantage.

> I am 67 so there is not much time left before I may become too

decrepit to

> have surgery so I must go now.

> I cannot understand how they can say you are too young and that you

would

> not live long afterwards!!

>

> There are several who have had partial oesophagectomy's - Jo and

Jan are two

> that come to mind. They are lovely people - still young and would

be happy

> to chat to you. is much older - he as had a total

oesophagectomy and

> says it was a complete success.He does have anti acid medication -

a proton

> pump inhibitor (like Nexium)

>

> How far are you from the Cleveland Clinic ? Dr Rice is the A expert

and he

> will do an oesophagectomy - partial or full if he thinks it is

warranted. He

> has just recently told one of the members that she has had all the

surgery

> and dilatations and he now recommended an oesophagectomy - she is

young - a

> mother of a 12 year old. We have not heard form her for a while so

I assume

> she is recovering.

>

> Tamara I have not kept up with all the posts, but if you feel an

> oesophagectomy is the answer then go for it ! Just find a surgeon

who has

> done them before. I can understand how you feel - I am there too.

> Hugs,

> Joan

> JOAN

>

>

> >

> >

> > I READ IN YOUR POST THAT YOU ARE GOING TO REMOVE THE E HOW FAR

HAVE

> > YOU LOOKED INTO THIS DOES IT MEAN IF IT IS REMOVED THEN WE CAN EAT

> > NORMALLY JUST IN SMALLER PORTIONS RIGHT AND WHAT ABOUT THE ACID

> > REFLUX ASSUMING YOU HAVE IT I DO AND I HAVE TRIED TO TALK TO MY

DR'S

> > ABOUT REMOVING BUT THEY SAY IT IS TO SOON AND I AM TO YOUNG I

WOULD

> > NOT LIVE LONG AFTER THAT WICH IS STRANGE CUZ SINCE I'M YOUNG YOU

> > WOULD THINK THAT I WOULD DO BETTER 27 TODAY TO BE CORRECT ANY WAY

DO

> > YOU STILL REGURGITATE YOUR FOOD OR IS IT JUST DIFFUCLT TO SWALLOW

I

> > HAVE STOPPED THROWING EVERYTHING UP BUT WHITE FOAM AND STOMACH

BILE I

> > HAVE HAD THE MYOTOMY AND THE PHENAMATIC DILATION AS WELL AS

SEVERAL

> > BALLOON DILATIONS WHEN THE ATTACKS COME ON I GET THE DRY HEAVES SO

> > BAD THAT I WISH SOMETHING WOULD COME UP JUST SO IT WOULD STOP I

HAVE

> > SO MANY ? BUT NOT ENOUGH TIME I'M AT WORK HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU

SOON

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Things fall out when you bend over and not just stomach rolls.

Even before dilation and myotomy I didn't like to bend over. White

foam or who knows what can fall back out via gravity, not often, but

it happens.

That is why when our dog drops her ball and it rolls into a corner I

make the kids get it. Truth be told there is other clutter in the

corners, thus my id. Sounds weird, but through the years I do avoid

bending over, it is a gradual adjustment made after a few bad

experiences.

It isn't comfortable for me as the saliva can fall back into your

mouth, there is no peristalysis, so whatever hasn't fallen down to

your stomach is still there.

I would think after the removal it would be even more likely for

things to splash up.

Sandy in So Cal

>

> Quick question how come when you have your " E " removed you can't

> bend over Tamara

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the reply that makes alot of sense it does come up

when you bend over silly me

" toomuchclutter " <sandycarroll@c...> wrote:

>

> Things fall out when you bend over and not just stomach rolls.

>

> Even before dilation and myotomy I didn't like to bend over.

White

> foam or who knows what can fall back out via gravity, not often,

but

> it happens.

>

> That is why when our dog drops her ball and it rolls into a corner

I

> make the kids get it. Truth be told there is other clutter in the

> corners, thus my id. Sounds weird, but through the years I do

avoid

> bending over, it is a gradual adjustment made after a few bad

> experiences.

>

> It isn't comfortable for me as the saliva can fall back into your

> mouth, there is no peristalysis, so whatever hasn't fallen down to

> your stomach is still there.

>

> I would think after the removal it would be even more likely for

> things to splash up.

>

> Sandy in So Cal

>

>

> >

> > Quick question how come when you have your " E " removed you

can't

> > bend over Tamara

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thanks for the thoughts and prayers. We have needed them badly. My daughter is safe and have therapy, but it is still trying times for us all.

Hugs,

Joan

Joan

Hi Joan,

I sure hope things are getting better for your family, particularly your daughter. You’re in my thoughts.

[Guest guest]

Hi Sherry:

Your name has been officially placed in my " Prayer Vase " , so every

time I look at it, I say a small prayer for everyone within. Sometimes

it is 50 little prayers a day, because it is next to my computer and in

my line of vision.

Are you having the same surgery as Joan?

Wishing you the very best for a " speedy and full " recovery.

Kathie from Pittsburgh

>

> I read your post concerning your surgery.I will have mine in 6 more

> days.I will let you know how it goes but each person and Dr is

> different. They told me I would be in ICU for 24 hrs with a

respirator

> but I will be sedated during that time.I will be in hosp for at least

> 10 days.It depends on how well I heal how long I keep the feeding

> tube.They showed us a video of what to expect before and after

> surgery.Hope you will keep me in your thoughts and prayers on my

> day.You will certainly be in mine on your day and everyone else

having

> surgery.

> Wish we could have a surgery schedule with everyone on it so we could

> keep up with them.

> Take Care

> Sherry from Ohio

[Guest guest]

No Problem - I found it eventually and managed to get it saved in

Word so it is easier to send. We can't be on line all the time!

Hugs,

Joan

Joan

> Hi Joan,

>

> Sorry that I missed your first post about the spasm post...yes, I have

> it, and would have loved to share it if I had seen your post in time!

> I'm sorry! I was not ignoring you!!

>

> Love and Hugs,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jan - so much appreciated ! I will also be thinking of you - there

will be plenty of time - I only go to theatre at midday and I have to be

there at 8am.

Hugs

Joan

Joan

> Joan im praying for you so much every time i sit and think about my

> surgery i pray that you will be ok to have yours aswell.

>

> With all my love and hugs

> Jan

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Joan i too have to be in theatre at midday and i have to be there at 8.30 which means i have to leave my house at 6am. Its going to be a long day for both of us

JanJoan Pearse <jpearse@...> wrote:

Thanks Jan - so much appreciated ! I will also be thinking of you - there will be plenty of time - I only go to theatre at midday and I have to be there at 8am.HugsJoan Joan> Joan im praying for you so much every time i sit and think about my> surgery i pray that you will be ok to have yours aswell.>> With all my love and hugs> Jan>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Am speechless. All my thought are with her and her family.

[Guest guest]

I agree. It is not a time to drop the ball. We need to push on and stick together as a family.

[Guest guest]

I wish you the best for your procedure on Friday. I just had a friend who

had it done last week and she is back tending her grands and doing most

things that ppl who are younger than she is are doing.

She is also a chronic pain patient as well as having major depression, so

though she is younger than you are, she is a sick lady also.

I remember back when there were no stents as I am sure you do also. My Xs

aunt went in to have the carotids opened up and ended up having her aorta

done also. The ones to the head were the ones that seemed to bother her the

worst after she was in the hospital, I know my kids were small and used to

playing with her but after that cleaning out, she wasn't much for playing

any more.

I hope to hear from you that a stent in the aorta is far superior to the old

fashioned way of doing business.

GA

[Guest guest]

Joan

I do lay on my back with my bottom up against the couch then put my legs/feet up on the couch. then I pull my legs up as far as I can to my chest. when I do this for about 20 min. it does help the pain for a while. I am worried how much worse my back will be when I get a new MRI.

Shanna

Joke: The sky is falling...no, I'm tipping over backwards.

www.freekibble.com

From: Joan Wingo <joanwingo2@...>Subject: ShannaSpinal Stenosis Treatment Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 4:43 PM

My back problems started many years ago with bulging discs. A wonderful chiropractor helped me. Her work on my back lasted for many years. She also told me the best exercise is to lie on your back and pull both knees to your chest at the same time. She said to never pull them in one at a time which is what the physical therapist had me doing. That was making things worse so I was glad she told me. When I started pulling both knees to my chest at the same time, my back felt much better. Now time has done its damage and a chiropractor can't help me anymore. Another doctor suggested pelvic tilts like pregnant women do to strengthen their backs. I wish you good luck with whatever you do. Joan

Hi everyone,

I decided to get my written MRI report for my lower back that was done "3 years ago". Now if any of u know a website that will show a spine that is numbered... so I can see where these problems r located on the spine... plz let me know.

Seems then that most of my problems were bulging disc's, one possible herniation, some narrowing, and encroachment.

T12-L1 - disc protrusion (possible herniation)

L2-3 - no significant disc bulge but there is mild central stenosis

L3-4 - annular disc bulging/diffuse endplate spurrng

L4-5 mild laeral disc bulging

remember this MRI is from 3 years ago in Oct 05.

My question is this: what can be done for this disc bulging besides surgery? Is there any excercise that I can do to help fix this? I am looking into getting another current MRI & seeing a nurosurgeon soon. Do these bulging disc's get worse with time? It seems my pain is worse in the last 6 months.

Shanna

Joke: The sky is falling...no, I'm tipping over backwards.

www.freekibble. com

[Guest guest]

i find laying on my back with one leg pointing to the sky put hands behind knee pul back an bend leg at knee up an down 10 times each leg it works for me . please pass on thanxkavi <kaviescontinued@...> wrote: Joan I do lay on my back with my bottom up against the couch then put my legs/feet up on the couch. then I pull my legs up as far as I can to my chest. when I do this for about 20 min. it does help the pain

for a while. I am worried how much worse my back will be when I get a new MRI. Shanna Joke: The sky is falling...no, I'm tipping over backwards. www.freekibble.com From: Joan Wingo

<joanwingo2bellsouth (DOT) net>Subject: ShannaSpinal Stenosis Treatment Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 4:43 PM My back problems started many years ago with bulging discs. A wonderful chiropractor helped me. Her work on my back lasted for many years. She also told me the best exercise is to lie on your back and pull both knees to your chest at the same time. She said to never pull them in one at a time which is what the physical therapist had me doing. That was making things worse so I was glad she told me. When I started pulling both knees to my chest at the same time, my back felt much better. Now time has done its damage and a chiropractor can't help me anymore.

Another doctor suggested pelvic tilts like pregnant women do to strengthen their backs. I wish you good luck with whatever you do. Joan Hi everyone, I decided to get my written MRI report for my lower back that was done "3 years ago". Now if any of u know a website that will show a spine that is numbered... so I can see where these problems r located on the spine... plz let me know. Seems then that most of my problems were bulging disc's, one

possible herniation, some narrowing, and encroachment. T12-L1 - disc protrusion (possible herniation) L2-3 - no significant disc bulge but there is mild central stenosis L3-4 - annular disc bulging/diffuse endplate spurrng L4-5 mild laeral disc bulging remember this MRI is from 3 years ago in Oct 05. My question is this: what can be done for this disc bulging besides surgery? Is there any excercise that I can do to help fix this? I am looking into getting another current MRI & seeing a nurosurgeon soon. Do these bulging disc's get worse with time? It seems my pain is worse in the last 6 months. Shanna Joke: The sky

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hi

I believe that anything with pulling up the legs like in a fetal postion helps the lower back. but it does not last long. I have to find some medicine that will stop or almost stop the leg pains when I walk. I was working full time 2 months back... and my body was use to the walking/standing 6-8 hours a day. I hurt my elbow at work and basicly have been on workers comp except for 2 days a week I am working. These 2 days kill me now.... and the weekend is coming... sat and sun I must work. I have tried all kinds of over the counter meds.... works for a little while.

WHAT PAIN MEDS WORK???

Shanna

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From: Joan Wingo <joanwingo2@bellsout h.net>Subject: ShannaSpinal Stenosis TreatmentDate: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 4:43 PM

My back problems started many years ago with bulging discs. A wonderful chiropractor helped me. Her work on my back lasted for many years. She also told me the best exercise is to lie on your back and pull both knees to your chest at the same time. She said to never pull them in one at a time which is what the physical therapist had me doing. That was making things worse so I was glad she told me. When I started pulling both knees to my chest at the same time, my back felt much better. Now time has done its damage and a chiropractor can't help me anymore. Another doctor suggested pelvic tilts like pregnant women do to strengthen their backs. I wish you good luck with whatever you do. Joan

Hi everyone,

I decided to get my written MRI report for my lower back that was done "3 years ago". Now if any of u know a website that will show a spine that is numbered... so I can see where these problems r located on the spine... plz let me know.

Seems then that most of my problems were bulging disc's, one possible herniation, some narrowing, and encroachment.

T12-L1 - disc protrusion (possible herniation)

L2-3 - no significant disc bulge but there is mild central stenosis

L3-4 - annular disc bulging/diffuse endplate spurrng

L4-5 mild laeral disc bulging

remember this MRI is from 3 years ago in Oct 05.

My question is this: what can be done for this disc bulging besides surgery? Is there any excercise that I can do to help fix this? I am looking into getting another current MRI & seeing a nurosurgeon soon. Do these bulging disc's get worse with time? It seems my pain is worse in the last 6 months.

Shanna

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Have you tried any of the stick on 'heat' patches that you can get

in the over the counter meds at wal mart? Since I often have problems

with the glue they use on stick on patches , I got the cheapest brand

I could get to try. I used some of these a couple of months ago when

I threw my back out really bad again. You can wear some of these for

at least 8 hours. Be sure and read and follow directions as there are

some things you can't do with them. But it did mellow out the pain a

bit and gave me a little more flexibility for work.

I work for a vending company and it was so bad for a couple of

weeks that I was moving a case of pop from the back of my truck to

the two wheel dolly a six pack at a time. I just couldn't lift half a

case at a time. Doing the dolly was fine. I took off work the first

day and did half day the second and the other three days did the bulk

of my route then asked someone else to finish the last stop or reload

my truck. Lucky for me is that my boss finally wound up with back

problems last year , so now he is a little more understanding when it

pops up for someone else. We work for a very small company and don't

have enough people for anyone to be gone long. I have found ways to

adapt when I need to and still do the major portion of my job when I

have flair ups.

Debbie and Ian McKinley (BMD since 93)no

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Joan

Hopefully with the help of your wonderful doctor (what a great man!)

Neil will just have a short second encounter with these mites, and you

will go on to have a nice christmas......

You will love the ESP, but thats a real shame that you dont think Neil

will want to use it.....however, even if it wasnt for its other

necessary properties I would still swear it was the best thing to ever

touch my skin.....it gives your skin an inner glow, I think I even look

younger for using it....plus I am almost positive that it is the reason

my cellulite has gone....its a great detox....and will protect you as

well.

We are all thinking of you guys!

z

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Hi Joan

its really too bad about that u could not be asleep. I had been told by my sister how painfull it was coz she had them also. that is one reason I put it off. but when I went to this dr he told he puts all his patients to sleep... its really a deep twilight sleep... but I do not remember a thing and I never felt a thing. You might look around and see if you can find a dr that does do the twilight sleep. also here in vegas, they have these surgery centers now for small type in and out surgeries. they cost less and they can put u under if necessary. anyway... u might want to check around just to see if u can find a dr that will do that. when I woke up they already had me in a bed in recovery... took about 30 min for me to be able to leave. they gave me apple juice and cookies!

Shanna

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From: lnrosy2000 <lnrosy2000gmail (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Has Anyone Felt Better After SurgerySpinal Stenosis TreatmentDate: Monday, April 20, 2009, 1:25 PM

Glad to hear you did so well .How many levels was your stenosis.Who was your surgeon? Thanks. My fusion was from L-4 to S-1. I had stenosis in more levels than that. What's left that they didn't operate on the stenosis isn't bad right now. I went to Sonoran Spine Center in Mesa, Arizona. My original surgeon left the practice. I'm seeing another one for follow ups and wouldn't hesitate to let him perform surgery on there. Both of my nieces see doctor's there.Have a great day.Ellen

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Hi Joan

In my case, what they did was, I went to a outpatient surgery center. I dressed in one of those hospital gowns, you know the one that never closes in the back! lol. they put in a shuck (I guess that is what its called) for the sleeping meds to go into. The first time at another place they even numbed the area before putting in the shuck...

anyway, was taken to the room, climb up on the table, get comfy, (not too comfy when in pain), then in a min or so, they inject the sleep meds and buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... off to sleep I went. You should NOT feel or remember a thing! that is how it should be. My DR cares about his patients and pain... If your paying for it, or the insurance is... then we should have it our way!

this time I have 4 different needle sticks in my low back. guess he decided to get every possible place he could!! lol anyway I am feeling pretty good after this last one...

Shanna

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From: Joan Wingo <joanwingo2@...>Subject: lieSpinal Stenosis Treatment Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 8:34 AM

My hubby has had to drive me home for several different procedures that I've had done including the injections in the back. He doesn't mind. I need to start looking now. I had much rather be put to sleep. Joan

I had pain -steroid shots two years in a row. The first year the group of 3 lasted for a whole year. The second year they did not work as well and I ended up with a laminectomy. I was put in a twilight sleep for all shots and felt almost nothing. I would definitely find a doctor that puts you to sleep. The only thing is that you need someone to drive you home because of the anesthesia. I had a milegram without anything and that was terrible plus I got the migraine headaces afterwards.

lie

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Joan

I do not know how a dr could do a good job if the patient is moving around in pain. Makes no since to me. Plz start calling around around and find a great dr!

Shanna

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From: Joan Wingo <joanwingo2@bellsout h.net>Subject: lieSpinal Stenosis TreatmentDate: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 8:34 AM

My hubby has had to drive me home for several different procedures that I've had done including the injections in the back. He doesn't mind. I need to start looking now. I had much rather be put to sleep. Joan

I had pain -steroid shots two years in a row. The first year the group of 3 lasted for a whole year. The second year they did not work as well and I ended up with a laminectomy. I was put in a twilight sleep for all shots and felt almost nothing. I would definitely find a doctor that puts you to sleep. The only thing is that you need someone to drive you home because of the anesthesia. I had a milegram without anything and that was terrible plus I got the migraine headaces afterwards.

lie

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