Guest guest Posted March 28, 1999 Report Share Posted March 28, 1999 Hi, we tried it for a while and even bought one for our family. It hasn't done anything for my brain tumor, my daughter's supposed lymphoma and the other very serious health issues in the family. What made the most difference is our Faith and the food choices we've made. Blessings, Johanne Request for information > Hello all, > > I have a close friend of mine who has had leukemia for the last 18 months. > Recently she started using a device called a Bio-active Frequency > Generator. With this device you hold electrodes in each hand and several > different frequencies are applied. > > It seems that the basic concept is that the frequencies are supposed to > weaken the leukemia so that her body can better fight it. I have never > heard of anything like this, but the funny thing is that she does seem to > be doing better. She has more energy and is feeling better after having > used this device. > > Supposedly there are no side effects. I'm wondering if anybody here had > heard of this and if they had any comments. I'm concerned that even though > she is feeling better while using this device she might be hurting herself > in the long run. > > The webpage where she learned about this device is at www.rrrs.org > > Thanks in advance for you comments. > > Dave > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 October 4, 2002 Institute of Medicine Immunization Safety Review As part of the committee's data gathering activities, we are seeking input on the following: 1) Hypotheses about the potential role of vaccinations in sudden unexpected death in infancy. 2) Biologic mechanisms that explain the potential role of vaccinations in sudden unexpected death in infancy. We welcome information such as original articles or citations, suggestions of key researchers with expertise on this issue, and other types of information. Please note that the National Academy of Sciences' complies with Section 15 of the Federal Advisory Committee Act (FACA), and therefore, all materials that are distributed to the committee will be submitted to a public access file. Thank you in advance for your assistance on this matter. Please send your materials to us by Monday October 14th, via email (imsafety@...), fax (202-334-2939), or by mail to: Immunization Safety Review National Academy of Sciences 500 Fifth Street NW Washington, DC 20001 Sandy from Alaska http://www.vaccinationnews.com/ http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Scandals/past_scandals.htm http://www.whale.to <http://www.whale.to/> http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm http://www.909shot.com <http://www.909shot.com/> http://www.redflagsweekly.com <http://www.redflagsweekly.com/> http://www.thinktwice.com <http://www.thinktwice.com/> http://home.san.rr.com/via/ http://www.vaccine-info.com <http://www.vaccine-info.com/> http://www.vaccine-info.com http://healing-arts.org/children/vaccines/ ALL INFORMATION, DATA, AND MATERIAL CONTAINED, PRESENTED, OR PROVIDED HERE IS FOR GENERAL INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS REFLECTING THE KNOWLEDGE OR OPINIONS OF THE PUBLISHER, AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED OR INTENDED AS PROVIDING MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO VACCINATE IS AN IMPORTANT AND COMPLEX ISSUE AND SHOULD BE MADE BY YOU, AND YOU ALONE, IN CONSULTATION WITH YOUR HEALTH CARE PROVIDER. IN ADDITION, THE FACT THAT THIS EMAIL HAS BEEN FORWARDED IN NO WAY NECESSARILY IMPLIES ENDORSEMENT OF THE POINT OF VIEW OF THE AUTHOR OR AUTHORS OF THE ARTICLE OR EMAIL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Gill, I don't know of anything in the UK, but have you thought of applying for a Florence Nightingale travelling scholarship/award to visit the USA and see what they are doing there? I went on one once many moons ago when I was working at the then HVA to look at the school nursing services in the USA. Just put in the application/reasons if I remember rightly. Or I think there are also Winston Churchill awards for these kind of projects. I'm a bit out of touch with them now but I'm sure someone at the CPHVA or RCN or Senate could fill you in. Regards, June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 A WEBSITE for young people witnessing domestic violence was launched yesterday. Children who fear they have no one to turn to can log on to the site — called The Hideout — to get advice. It even has a “panic button” which instantly calls up a different site such as the BBC’s CBeebies in case an abusive parent walks into the room. The site stresses to children that domestic violence is not their fault and offers practical help. YOU can log on at www.thehideout.org.uk — or contact the 24-hour National Domestic Violence Helpline on free-phone: 0808 2000 247. -----Original Message----- From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Gill Newell Sent: 20 April 2005 17:52 Subject: request for information Dear All I have 2 requests for info. Firstly does any Senate member know of any projects/services in this country working with children who witness domestic violence? We are trying to develop a service in Gloucestershire whereby child witnesses could be referred for short term therapeutic interventions, and also looking at school based work for older children as well. I am struggling to determine whether there is anything already up and running in the UK (plenty in USA but I don’t think I’d get my travel expenses paid!) that I could visit. I’ve come across plenty of initiatives focussing on women but nothing on interventions for children of all ages. Secondly, does anyone know of a good speaker/facilitator for fathers work? We are putting on 2 events later in the year and need to find another speaker and also someone who would facilitate a workshop. We have contacted Bob Geldof but have not yet had a reply…. Thanks very much Gill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Dear Gill, Someone from the Mens Health Forum might be suitable for your Fathers' speaker, as might Children's Commisioner Al Aynsley-Green (although he writes more about becoming a Grandfather.... ). Prof. Mike Wadsworth of UCL is a very interesting speaker about factors that influence health and development in the early years (he is director of the MRC birth cohort studies). A good speaker from a social work background is of course Herbert Lord Laming, but I don't know what personal experience of fatherhood he has. Two retired psychiatrists that I have worked for, with strong family perspectives, for whom I have the greatest admiration, are Prof. Arthur Crisp (ex-St. 's) and Dr. Crowe (ex-Maudsley), but they are not such " public " figures as Bob Geldof. Good luck, Woody. request for information Dear All I have 2 requests for info. Firstly does any Senate member know of any projects/services in this country working with children who witness domestic violence? We are trying to develop a service in Gloucestershire whereby child witnesses could be referred for short term therapeutic interventions, and also looking at school based work for older children as well. I am struggling to determine whether there is anything already up and running in the UK (plenty in USA but I don't think I'd get my travel expenses paid!) that I could visit. I've come across plenty of initiatives focussing on women but nothing on interventions for children of all ages. Secondly, does anyone know of a good speaker/facilitator for fathers work? We are putting on 2 events later in the year and need to find another speaker and also someone who would facilitate a workshop. We have contacted Bob Geldof but have not yet had a reply.. Thanks very much Gill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Dear Gill we had Sue Pollock speak at one of the NSPCC/Dept Child Health, Carfidd University seminars last year. She is part of a team that have researched fathers and how their needs are met/not met in NHS services. One or two health visitors in the interprofessional audience took exception to some of the findings but it was really a good wake up study. I first heard her at the BASPCAN conference in 2003. She is a social science lecturer/researcher from Bristol University. If you look on the Brisyol University Website there are details of the research and a report from the funding body. Or e-mail her for details: SB Pollock, School Policy Studies, Bristol University: Sue.Pollock@... Have you looked at the Father's Direct website? They have just, or are about to, put on a major conference on fatherhood. www.fathersdirect.com Dr Coles PhD BA RHV RGN Research Fellow Department of Child Health, Community Section Cardiff University, Wales College of Medicine First Floor, Academic Centre Llandough Hospital Cardiff CF64 2XX Telephone Direct line/message service 02920 715479 Secretary 02920 716932/33/34 Fax 02920 350140 >>> gill.newell@... 04/20/05 5:52 PM >>> Dear All I have 2 requests for info. Firstly does any Senate member know of any projects/services in this country working with children who witness domestic violence? We are trying to develop a service in Gloucestershire whereby child witnesses could be referred for short term therapeutic interventions, and also looking at school based work for older children as well. I am struggling to determine whether there is anything already up and running in the UK (plenty in USA but I don't think I'd get my travel expenses paid!) that I could visit. I've come across plenty of initiatives focussing on women but nothing on interventions for children of all ages. Secondly, does anyone know of a good speaker/facilitator for fathers work? We are putting on 2 events later in the year and need to find another speaker and also someone who would facilitate a workshop. We have contacted Bob Geldof but have not yet had a reply.. Thanks very much Gill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Dear Gill, I have a number of contacts re working with fathers through the special interest group. I'll send you details off SENATE. Best wishes, request for information Dear All I have 2 requests for info. Firstly does any Senate member know of any projects/services in this country working with children who witness domestic violence? We are trying to develop a service in Gloucestershire whereby child witnesses could be referred for short term therapeutic interventions, and also looking at school based work for older children as well. I am struggling to determine whether there is anything already up and running in the UK (plenty in USA but I don’t think I’d get my travel expenses paid!) that I could visit. I’ve come across plenty of initiatives focussing on women but nothing on interventions for children of all ages. Secondly, does anyone know of a good speaker/facilitator for fathers work? We are putting on 2 events later in the year and need to find another speaker and also someone who would facilitate a workshop. We have contacted Bob Geldof but have not yet had a reply…. Thanks very much Gill -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Dear Gill and I am working with Dr Ian Banks and the Men’s Health Forum. The theme for next year is mental health. You may have seen the Haynes manuals that accompany these campaigns ( I am pleased to say that I have been able to help the MHF to see that mental health issues should continue to break like waves through each and every year’s campaign, no matter what it might be…eg this year is obesity). There will be one for next year. So….I would be really interested in hearing your thinking about how we might help fathers around this issue. The approach is quite a mechanical one and it is proby going to appeal to a particular element of father-men. So, next year the manual will be about how to look after your brain/mind/mental health using computer metaphors. Is there evidence/literature that we can “tune” to make it as readable/relevant as possible for this campaign? Is there work that I should be reading to acquaint myself better with the issues? I am also keen, since I do work with NIMHE etc to know what I need to know to help take these issues and ensure that they are aired in the environments in which I work and any projects with which I am involved. I gather from Ian that the various European Men’s Health For a are focussing on mental health over the next three years. VBW Chris www.primhe.org From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Bidmead Sent: 21 April 2005 15:40 Subject: Re: request for information Dear Gill, I have a number of contacts re working with fathers through the special interest group. I'll send you details off SENATE. Best wishes, request for information Dear All I have 2 requests for info. Firstly does any Senate member know of any projects/services in this country working with children who witness domestic violence? We are trying to develop a service in Gloucestershire whereby child witnesses could be referred for short term therapeutic interventions, and also looking at school based work for older children as well. I am struggling to determine whether there is anything already up and running in the UK (plenty in USA but I don’t think I’d get my travel expenses paid!) that I could visit. I’ve come across plenty of initiatives focussing on women but nothing on interventions for children of all ages. Secondly, does anyone know of a good speaker/facilitator for fathers work? We are putting on 2 events later in the year and need to find another speaker and also someone who would facilitate a workshop. We have contacted Bob Geldof but have not yet had a reply…. Thanks very much Gill -- This email has been verified as Virus freeVirus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Blow me down..I've just read this email..having just sent the last one! Woody..you and I live on the same branch?! Re: request for information Dear Gill, Someone from the Mens Health Forum might be suitable for your Fathers' speaker, as might Children's Commisioner Al Aynsley-Green (although he writes more about becoming a Grandfather.... ). Prof. Mike Wadsworth of UCL is a very interesting speaker about factors that influence health and development in the early years (he is director of the MRC birth cohort studies). A good speaker from a social work background is of course Herbert Lord Laming, but I don't know what personal experience of fatherhood he has. Two retired psychiatrists that I have worked for, with strong family perspectives, for whom I have the greatest admiration, are Prof. Arthur Crisp (ex-St. 's) and Dr. Crowe (ex-Maudsley), but they are not such " public " figures as Bob Geldof. Good luck, Woody. request for information Dear All I have 2 requests for info. Firstly does any Senate member know of any projects/services in this country working with children who witness domestic violence? We are trying to develop a service in Gloucestershire whereby child witnesses could be referred for short term therapeutic interventions, and also looking at school based work for older children as well. I am struggling to determine whether there is anything already up and running in the UK (plenty in USA but I don't think I'd get my travel expenses paid!) that I could visit. I've come across plenty of initiatives focussing on women but nothing on interventions for children of all ages. Secondly, does anyone know of a good speaker/facilitator for fathers work? We are putting on 2 events later in the year and need to find another speaker and also someone who would facilitate a workshop. We have contacted Bob Geldof but have not yet had a reply.. Thanks very much Gill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 Hello Gill, Here in Bath & NE Somerset we have run some DV Therapeutic Recovery groups for 7-11 year old children and are about to run a pilot on domestic violence prevention work in a local volunteer primary school. Would these be of interest to you - and we are not too far away. Ruth request for information Dear All I have 2 requests for info. Firstly does any Senate member know of any projects/services in this country working with children who witness domestic violence? We are trying to develop a service in Gloucestershire whereby child witnesses could be referred for short term therapeutic interventions, and also looking at school based work for older children as well. I am struggling to determine whether there is anything already up and running in the UK (plenty in USA but I don’t think I’d get my travel expenses paid!) that I could visit. I’ve come across plenty of initiatives focussing on women but nothing on interventions for children of all ages. Secondly, does anyone know of a good speaker/facilitator for fathers work? We are putting on 2 events later in the year and need to find another speaker and also someone who would facilitate a workshop. We have contacted Bob Geldof but have not yet had a reply…. Thanks very much Gill Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.8 - Release Date: 13/04/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 How can I get info on the Men's health Forum? I am particularly interested as I have 12.5% of my adult men with mental health problems and I do not understand their service needs nor of any help that I can provide. Ruth request for information Dear All I have 2 requests for info. Firstly does any Senate member know of any projects/services in this country working with children who witness domestic violence? We are trying to develop a service in Gloucestershire whereby child witnesses could be referred for short term therapeutic interventions, and also looking at school based work for older children as well. I am struggling to determine whether there is anything already up and running in the UK (plenty in USA but I don’t think I’d get my travel expenses paid!) that I could visit. I’ve come across plenty of initiatives focussing on women but nothing on interventions for children of all ages. Secondly, does anyone know of a good speaker/facilitator for fathers work? We are putting on 2 events later in the year and need to find another speaker and also someone who would facilitate a workshop. We have contacted Bob Geldof but have not yet had a reply…. Thanks very much Gill -- This email has been verified as Virus freeVirus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.8 - Release Date: 13/04/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Dear Ruth Best person to contact is Dr Ian Banks himself: ian@... VBW Chris From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Ruth Grant Sent: 23 April 2005 20:18 Subject: Re: request for information How can I get info on the Men's health Forum? I am particularly interested as I have 12.5% of my adult men with mental health problems and I do not understand their service needs nor of any help that I can provide. Ruth request for information Dear All I have 2 requests for info. Firstly does any Senate member know of any projects/services in this country working with children who witness domestic violence? We are trying to develop a service in Gloucestershire whereby child witnesses could be referred for short term therapeutic interventions, and also looking at school based work for older children as well. I am struggling to determine whether there is anything already up and running in the UK (plenty in USA but I don’t think I’d get my travel expenses paid!) that I could visit. I’ve come across plenty of initiatives focussing on women but nothing on interventions for children of all ages. Secondly, does anyone know of a good speaker/facilitator for fathers work? We are putting on 2 events later in the year and need to find another speaker and also someone who would facilitate a workshop. We have contacted Bob Geldof but have not yet had a reply…. Thanks very much Gill -- This email has been verified as Virus freeVirus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.8 - Release Date: 13/04/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 As you will have gathered, I know little of pop medicine and what I have learned of it, I have learned on from its critics over the last couple of years. Here for the first time I have also met its advocates. To my question. What are the names for it? There is homeopathy. There seem to be all sorts of other such things. Are these things collectively known as Alternative Medicine by their friends and as pop medicine by their critics? Where would I find an overview of the field? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Lee wrote: Where would I find an overview of [alternative medicine]? I had never heard the term “pop medicine” prior to your use of it. Of course, you could consult the de-licensed “Dr.” Barrett, shill of Big Pharma, but you probably already know about his site. www.quackwatch.org If you’re truly interested in a balanced overview of alternative medicine, the most cogent voice is Lerner in his book, “Choices in Healing.” The complete book is available at: www.commonweal.org Also, Ralph Moss specializes in alternatives to poison, cut and burn (cancer). He’s a “friendly skeptic” of alternative medicine. www.cancerdecisions.com Or you could hang out at alternative medicine discussion boards—there are thousands of them on the Internet—but, of course, any positive stories of healing you read there would be *gasp!* anecdotal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Hi , Ok, thanks very much. Alternative medicine will do quite nicely as a term. Popular medicine is the term used in academia. I first came across it in a historical study of witchcraft, astrology and other methods of healing in early modern Europe. But I wanted to know what advocates of popular medicince called it. My next question is this: how broad is it? I know that it encompasses Homeopathy, but what else is there? I do not think that witchcraft and astrology are part of it anymore, but what is? I have looked at Quackwatch. Very good site for what it does. But what it does is very very limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Homeopathic medicine is substances that are diluted which create the same symptoms as to what it is treating creating an opposite effect. It works like snake venom, however can not hurt you and can be used with any and all medications. Alternative medicines are supplements ranging from vitamins and minerals to herbs that help or prevent conditions and diseases. Natural medicines refer to food. Does that help? Thank, April --- Lee <jackalope_lepus@...> wrote: > Hi , Ok, thanks very much. Alternative > medicine will do quite > nicely as a term. > > Popular medicine is the term used in academia. I > first came across it > in a historical study of witchcraft, astrology and > other methods of > healing in early modern Europe. But I wanted to > know what advocates of > popular medicince called it. > > My next question is this: how broad is it? I know > that it encompasses > Homeopathy, but what else is there? I do not think > that witchcraft and > astrology are part of it anymore, but what is? > > I have looked at Quackwatch. Very good site for > what it does. But > what it does is very very limited. > > > > __________________________________ Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music./unlimited/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Yes, I thought you would think Quackwatch is just peachy. The site’s operator, Barrett, a hired gun for Big Pharma, has lost case after case at the summary judgment phase. As you may know, being as how you’re in “academia,” Big Pharma lost its bid to stifle competition vis-à-vis chiropractic care. Anyway…the field of alternative medicine, much to Big Pharma’s chagrin, is growing exponentially. It is estimated that 30% of patients routinely look to alternative medicine, even if they are, at the same time, undergoing Official Medicine treatments. Quackwatch—er, I mean, Big Pharma—just hates it that NCCAM even exists. Big Pharma, as an industry, hates competition, even as companies in the industry compete among themselves. http://nccam.nih.gov I have no objection to Official Medicine—after all, Official Medicine excels in emergency medical care—so long as treatment doesn’t harm the patient (unlike Vioxx and chemotherapy) and Big Pharma sticks to its knitting. It’s when the medical industrial complex uses its might to force people—through its vise-like grip on the insurance industry—to submit only to Official Medicine or go broke doing anything else. There is no doubt that not everything alternative is efficacious. But there’s also no doubt that not everything Official Medicine is healing, either. But instead of admitting that Official Medicine—and particularly its wholly owned subsidiary, Cancer, Inc.—doesn’t really have a clue where degenerative diseases are concerned, it aggressively marches on until, unable to completely corner the market on healing modalities, it’s forced to award a Nobel Prize to two lone Australian researchers who finally proved, after plodding on for more than two decades, that ulcers are not caused by stress but by a bacteria called helicobacter pylori. There are many stories in the annals of so called modern medicine of medical mavericks gone mad or broke trying to convince the reigning majority of the efficacy of something or other. Ignaz Semmelweis is one such maverick. After trying for years—many patients dying in the meantime—to convince his colleagues to wash their frickin’ hands before moving on to the next patient, he died a broken man. After his death, it was finally accepted that good hygiene will save—not kill—the patient. And so it goes. The bottom line is, if there’s no money in it, we have nothing but Official Medicine on which to rely to do the necessary research because the game is closed to anyone else. (And please don’t respond with your tired-ass question: “where are the studies?”) If the threatened pandemic becomes reality, we shall see alternative medicine emerging as never before. If many more people actually LIVE than die through using various alternative medicine at their disposal, it signals the end of “modern medicine” as we know it today, in my opinion. Anecdotal evidence will thus require a closer look, as so called scientific medicine will have failed us. The answer, in my opinion, is to set up a system of medical research that operates like the “finders of fact” in a court of law. But Official Medicine, lead by the nose by Big Pharma, has so many lobbyists working in Washington, it’s impossible to find an unbiased jury. Impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Hi April, Yes, it does help. But then what is the entire field called? Does Alternative Medicine refer to all three: homeopathy, natural medicines and supplements? If not, then what term does, other than the term pop medicine, which seems to be a term that some people do not like? Thanks very much! > > Hi , Ok, thanks very much. Alternative > > medicine will do quite > > nicely as a term. > > > > Popular medicine is the term used in academia. I > > first came across it > > in a historical study of witchcraft, astrology and > > other methods of > > healing in early modern Europe. But I wanted to > > know what advocates of > > popular medicince called it. > > > > My next question is this: how broad is it? I know > > that it encompasses > > Homeopathy, but what else is there? I do not think > > that witchcraft and > > astrology are part of it anymore, but what is? > > > > I have looked at Quackwatch. Very good site for > > what it does. But > > what it does is very very limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 wrote: It is very encouraging that the NCCAM exists. Not really. Barrett, Big Pharma’s most visible shill, hates it and regularly rants against it. But he confirms again why alternative medicine will NEVER be able to go the distance against Big Pharma’s deep pockets. The pharmaceutical industry’s lobby is $500 billion (that’s billion, with a strong. Rigorous trials cost $1-5 million each. Five to twenty trials are needed to prove or disprove effectiveness of each product or method. After staff expenses, $100 million per year can support only 10-20 reliable trials per year. [end quote] http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/nccam.html Our country’s stunningly expensive disease care system must implode on its own—and it most assuredly will, eventually—before we see any change in how disease is treated in this country. Yup…the business of disease. The only antidote to being caught in the web is to stay healthy by learning and reading and knowing how to be proactive with respect to your own health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 I would agree April --- Coy <catherinecoy@...> wrote: > wrote: It is very encouraging that the > NCCAM exists. > > Not really. Barrett, Big Pharma's most > visible shill, hates it > and regularly rants against it. But he confirms > again why alternative > medicine will NEVER be able to go the distance > against Big Pharma's deep > pockets. The pharmaceutical industry's lobby is > $500 billion (that's > billion, with a strong. > > Rigorous trials cost $1-5 million each. Five > to twenty trials > are needed to prove or disprove effectiveness of > each product or method. > After staff expenses, $100 million per year can > support only 10-20 > reliable trials per year. [end quote] > > http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/nccam.html > > > Our country's stunningly expensive disease care > system must implode on > its own-and it most assuredly will, > eventually-before we see any change > in how disease is treated in this country. > > Yup.the business of disease. The only antidote to > being caught in the > web is to stay healthy by learning and reading and > knowing how to be > proactive with respect to your own health. > __________________________________ - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Cginca96 wrote: Now, having said that, hopefully this will quiet down a few of the more argumentative posters in this group... Whatsza matter…you don’t like a healthy debate? Whaddya doing on a discussion board, then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 > > Whatsa matter.you don't like a healthy debate? Whaddya doing on a > discussion board, then? There's a difference between " discussing " and " arguing " and being insulting or inflamatory. Two hours ago we had 65 members. Now we are down to 63. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Who cares what Mr. Barrett has to say. The fact remains that NCCAM is an established government agency, so he can yap all he wants to. His concerns are less important than whatever scientific information comes out of NCCAM. Coy <catherinecoy@...> wrote: wrote: It is very encouraging that the NCCAM exists. Not really. Barrett, Big Pharma’s most visible shill, hates it and regularly rants against it. But he confirms again why alternative medicine will NEVER be able to go the distance against Big Pharma’s deep pockets. The pharmaceutical industry’s lobby is $500 billion (that’s billion, with a strong. Rigorous trials cost $1-5 million each. Five to twenty trials are needed to prove or disprove effectiveness of each product or method. After staff expenses, $100 million per year can support only 10-20 reliable trials per year. [end quote] http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/nccam.html Our country’s stunningly expensive disease care system must implode on its own—and it most assuredly will, eventually—before we see any change in how disease is treated in this country. Yup…the business of disease. The only antidote to being caught in the web is to stay healthy by learning and reading and knowing how to be proactive with respect to your own health. Never place a period where God has placed a comma. - Gracie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 I am sorry for that. I know that I was part of that. I promise that will not be the case from this point out with me. I am up writing so I will be checking in. however I am not always at my computer and I may not be around for several days. So I guess everyone can have a break from me. I apologize. April --- cginca96 <cginca96@...> wrote: > > > > > Whatsa matter.you don't like a healthy debate? > Whaddya doing on a > > discussion board, then? > > There's a difference between " discussing " and > " arguing " and being > insulting or inflamatory. > > Two hours ago we had 65 members. Now we are down to > 63. > > > > > __________________________________ FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 I am sorry for that. I know that I was part of that. I promise that will not be the case from this point out with me. I am up writing so I will be checking in. however I am not always at my computer and I may not be around for several days. So I guess everyone can have a break from me. I apologize. April --- cginca96 <cginca96@...> wrote: > > > > > Whatsa matter.you don't like a healthy debate? > Whaddya doing on a > > discussion board, then? > > There's a difference between " discussing " and > " arguing " and being > insulting or inflamatory. > > Two hours ago we had 65 members. Now we are down to > 63. > > > > > __________________________________ FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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