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Hi Libby,

what great information. There are some things that we take for granted that are in our lives that are poisoning us and we are not aware of it. Wow! It makes you think doesn't it? I am so grateful that I have never like any caffeine drinks. If I have a Pepsi once a year it is a big deal. You are so smart to take yourself off slowly.

I am looking forward to our project of helping those older folks who need some extra love and some extra oxygen. It will be an answer to a prayer for many of them and it will be such a pleasure for me to be able to provide them with something that can change their lives on so many levels. I am happy to say that my Daddy continues to do his "special breathing program" that I created for him when he got Cancer last year.

Take good care of yourself, Libby, the caffeine will be out of your system soon and you will be on your road to freedom.

Take care, Rashelle

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diet soda

From: "Libby Bova" <thpeaky@...> hi gang...I have been reading a lot of the messages these past fewdays and le has communicated with me about using LL with someof my patients ( I am a speech pathologist specializing in swallowingdisorders)...I have NO trouble swallowing which is part of my problem(haha). I did not drink any for 2 days (diet soda that is) and I gota headache so bad I thought I was having a stroke...I had one 5 yearsago. My husband and I realized it was severe withdrawal from caffeineand my doc said I better step down slowly. SO what I am doing isdrinking one per day and the rest is water or weak herbal tea. I havebeen SO thirsty! My last nursing home is about 30 miles from my homeand I stood at their drinking fountain and slurped it up...theirwater was SO good! I may bring a 2 liter bottle and fill it there formy various treks. I have my potty stops all picked out in advancesince I am on the road all day. I have also learned that to "hold it"is very bad for your kidneys. Just thought I would share that...itsure proves caffeine is a danger...even to stop suddenly. Thanks toall for this list...I have found it very helpful.:>) Libby

[Guest guest]

Hi Libby

It's not only the diet soda you need to be fearful of. While it is the

worst, due to the aspartame content, (see www.sweetpoison.com) it is by

no means alone in the damage it causes the body. The pH scale ranges

from 0.0 (acid) to 14.0 (alkali) 7.0 is neutral. Every point on the pH

scale is 10X. 7 to 6 is 10 times, 7 to 5 is 100 times, and 7 to 4 is

1000 times, and so on.

Our blood has to be at 7.4 (7.35 to 7.45) to keep us alive, just

slightly on the alkaline side.

All carbonated beverages cause an acid dump into the system. The pH on

sodas range from a 2.0 to 3.5 on the pH scale. This is highly acidic.

Just drinking one soda, requires about 32 glasses of water at a pH of

9.0 to 10.0 just to neutralize it. All life ceases in water that has a

pH of 2.5 or lower, so just imagine what your body believes is happening

to it everytime you drink a soda. It believes you are trying to kill

it. While most of us enjoy our sodas, we must make decisions as to what

we are willing to subject ourselves to. I used to drink a couple of six

packs of pepsi everyday, and I very seldom drank water. I enjoyed

horrible arthritis, IBS, headaches, backaches, poor circulation,

terrible sleep, prostate problems, bone spurs, muscle aches and pains,

sinus problems, ear infections, and . . .well, you get the point. I

believe most of our dis-eases are a result of the choices we make, or

don't make. They are a direct result of our lifestyle. What makes us

acidic? Most high protein foods (such as meat, fish, poultry and eggs),

nearly all carbohydrates (including grains, breads and pastas) and fats

are " acid-forming. " Most fruits and vegetables are " alkaline-forming. "

The key is to buffer the acid forming aspects with alkaline inducers.

Today, I don't suffer from any of these ailments, but I drink lots of

pure alkaline water daily. I occasionally drink a soda to satisfy my

taste buds.  I actually went for 9 months, cold turkey, without a

soda of any kind. At that time, I hated water, I had never really drank

much of it. I carried a gallon jug around with me and made sure I

drank all of it everyday. After the initial withdrawal symptoms, I

began to like water, and then to crave it. I now drink and love it,

like I did the sodas before.

I liked the fact Rashelle mentioned alot of things in her post on the

foods she eats, that don't conform to the modern 'food gurus' so-called

healthy food combining programs. I believe that God made potatoes,

carrots, meats, etc., and all their natural nutrients, to be enjoyed by

people. At least that's what the Bible says. A good variety of whole

living foods is far more likely to provide benefit, than restricting

yourself to some of the restrictive eating programs that are just making

the promoters lots of money. People are losing weight on them, but I

believe their long term health is compromised. Moderation in all things

is a good rule.

Doug

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Message From: thpeaky@... (Libby Bova) Date: Tue, Mar 14, 2000,

5:22am (AKST+9) LifeLiftonelist Subject: diet soda

Reply to: LifeLiftonelist

From: " Libby Bova " <thpeaky@...>

hi gang...I have been reading a lot of the messages these past few days

and le has communicated with me about using LL with some of my

patients ( I am a speech pathologist specializing in swallowing

disorders)...I have NO trouble swallowing which is part of my problem

(haha). I did not drink any for 2 days (diet soda that is) and I got a

headache so bad I thought I was having a stroke...I had one 5 years ago.

My husband and I realized it was severe withdrawal from caffeine and my

doc said I better step down slowly. SO what I am doing is drinking one

per day and the rest is water or weak herbal tea. I have been SO

thirsty! My last nursing home is about 30 miles from my home and I stood

at their drinking fountain and slurped it up...their water was SO good!

I may bring a 2 liter bottle and fill it there for my various treks. I

have my potty stops all picked out in advance since I am on the road all

day. I have also learned that to " hold it " is very bad for your kidneys.

Just thought I would share that...it sure proves caffeine is a

danger...even to stop suddenly. Thanks to all for this list...I have

found it very helpful.

Libby

_________________________________

Aloevera, Coral Calcium, African Potato, and Passive Aerobic Exercise.

A hoax, a miracle, or just some of God's nutritional factors that cause

good health? Is dis-ease lifestyle related?

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry, but so much of this is just incorrect I

can't let it pass.

--- kair4me@... wrote:

> From: kair4me@...

>

> Hi Libby

> It's not only the diet soda you need to be fearful

> of. While it is the

> worst, due to the aspartame content, (see

> www.sweetpoison.com) it is by

> no means alone in the damage it causes the body.

The nutrasweet scare is nonsense. There is more

methanol in and orange than in a diet soda.

> All carbonated beverages cause an acid dump into the

> system.

Please write the chemical equation for this reaction.

> The pH on

> sodas range from a 2.0 to 3.5 on the pH scale. This

> is highly acidic.

> Just drinking one soda, requires about 32 glasses of

> water at a pH of

> 9.0 to 10.0 just to neutralize it.

The acid your stomach lining secretes has a pH of 1.

The gastric mixture around 2. Soda is actually *less*

acid than what is in your stomach naturally.

And soda has the same pH as orange juice.

Pure water has a pH of 7. It is the definition of

neutral.

J

http://www.johnco.cc.ks.us/~pdecell/chemistry/phscale.html

=====

Everyone is a foreigner almost everywhere.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I slowly gave up diet soda about a year ago and I really don't miss it.

Once in awhile, I do get a craving for diet coke and I have one. I

drink a lot of water and soy milk now. I am finding different varieties

of decaffeinated teas that I like and I either make them hot or iced. I

still can't give up coffee though. That is something I am bad about but

I put soy milk in it. I must say that is an acquired taste :-). I have

tried some of the Sobe drinks but I think they are too sweet for me. I

know they are healthy for you with all the vitamins in them. It's just

my personal opinion :-). You can give it up slowly but only when you

truly want to.

Michele S.

[Guest guest]

: tried some of the Sobe drinks but I think they are too sweet for me. I

: know they are healthy for you with all the vitamins in them.

What are Sobe drinks? I've never heard of them.

Kristy

[Guest guest]

Hello " J " ,

My response is in quotes between the lines.

REPLY TO  Message From: that_jet@... (Jet) Date: Tue, Mar 14,

I'm sorry, but so much of this is just incorrect I can't let it pass.

________

--- kair4me@... wrote:

From: kair4me@...

Hi Libby

It's not only the diet soda you need to be fearful of. While it is the

worst, due to the aspartame content, (see www.sweetpoison.com) it is by

no means alone in the damage it causes the body.

The nutrasweet scare is nonsense. There is more methanol in and orange

than in a diet soda.

_____________________________________

" It's about alot more than just methanol, and besides, what person in

their right mind would knowingly want to ingest wood alcohol anyway?

Scientific studies done since it's release, by scientist/researchers who

have no $$$financial$$$ interest in it, confirm that it is a very

questionable, and many say dangerous, substance. Most particularly

disconcerting to me, is there were no studies that either validated, or

repudiated, the then existent concerns about what adverse affects it may

have on growing children. Adults make their own choices, good or bad.

Children don't have that luxury, and are dependent upon their

parents/guardians to make informed, and safe, choices for them. Most

adults are aware of the dangers of tobacco, alcohol, caffeine, etc., but

many choose to ignore the science, and continue to use them anyway. A

few still live very long lives, despite their abuse of their body, but

most people do not. The evidence against aspartame is enough to cause

me to not knowingly include any of it in anything I eat or drink.

Since it is man-made, contains known neurotoxins, has been shown to be

harmful to the unborn, facilitates seizures, and when heated it breaks

down into components of wood alcohol and formaldehyde, as for me and my

house we'll pass, thank you very much. Aside from the scientific

evidence, the anecdotal evidence is also overwhelming. Too many people

have had their problems disappear when they simply stopped using

aspartame.

As for the orange having more methanol than a

diet soda, I don't know if that's true or not. Perhaps you could

enlighten me as to the source of this information. If it does, I would

bet that mother nature also has included an antidote to negate any

adverse effects. The seeds from apricots (and many other fruits,

grains, and beans), contain cyanides, which we are told by todays

medical establishment to stay away from, as they are poisonous.

However, healthy cells in the body contain rhodanese, that in a healthy

cell, converts the cyanide into a harmless material. However, in mutant

cells like cancer, the cyanide combines with beta-glucosidase and does

it's job of alkalizing/killing the cancer cells, while not harming

healthy cells. ( See Genesis 1:29 , and www.christianbrothers.com ) "

______________________________________

All carbonated beverages cause an acid dump into the system.

Please write the chemical equation for this reaction.

_____________________________________

" No equation is possible, without all the specific parameters of the

hypothesis. When you consume something that has a high quantity/volume

of acid, you're adding a tremendous extra burden on the body to

neutralize it. When I say you're causing an " acid dump " , that's what I

am referring to. If you drink only one cola, obviously it will be

different than drinking a 6 pack. The acid in the stomach is highly

acidic, and stays in the stomach to digest whatever we place there.

What we consume is looked at by the stomach, and various acids and

enzymes are called upon to break it down. The acid required for fruits

and vegetables, is different than that for meats. Some foods create a

discharge of alkaline substances into the body, others create acidic

discharges. "

______________________________________

The pH on

sodas range from a 2.0 to 3.5 on the pH scale. This is highly acidic.

Just drinking one soda, requires about 32 glasses of water at a pH of

9.0 to 10.0 just to neutralize it.

The acid your stomach lining secretes has a pH of 1. The gastric mixture

around 2. Soda is actually *less* acid than what is in your stomach

naturally.

______________________________________ " See above, and below "

______________________________________

And soda has the same pH as orange juice.

______________________________________

" True, but while fresh orange juice is natures creation, carbonated

sodas are not. Orange juice (and citrus juices), while being quite

acidic, also contain minerals, and go through a process of digestion

that makes them readily absorbable. The chemical reaction actually

converts the acids into an alkali which lowers the acidity of the fluids

where they are contained. This natural effect thereby lowers the

acidity in the body, and helps to prevent the dis-eases caused by

acidosis. They do not contribute significantly to the acid in a healthy

stomach. Sodas, on the other hand do just the opposite. Instead of

contributing to the building of the body, they steal precious minerals,

and load one up with high doses of sugar and sodium. Phosphates cause

the kidneys to excrete calcium, magnesium, and other elements, thereby

lowering the bodies natural buffering agents. "

Pure water has a pH of 7. It is the definition of neutral.

_____________________________________

" Actually, distilled water is generally slightly acidic, ranging from

6.6 to 6.8. The pH of other water could vary depending upon many other

factors. " You are correct that 7.0 is neutral, it's right in the middle

of the scale.

______________________________________

J

http://www.johnco.cc.ks.us/~pdecell/chemistry/phscale.html

_______________________________

" Thanks for your post. It may help clear up

some questions others may have had too. "

Again, we make our choices, and then we get to live with, or die from,

them.

God bless,

Doug

_________________________________

Aloevera, Coral Calcium, African Potato, and Passive Aerobic Exercise.

A hoax, a miracle, or just some of God's nutritional factors that cause

good health? Is dis-ease lifestyle related?

[Guest guest]

--- kair4me@... wrote:

> From: kair4me@...

>

> Hello " J " ,

> My response is in quotes between the lines.

>

>

> REPLY TO  Message From: that_jet@... (Jet)

> Date: Tue, Mar 14,

>

> I'm sorry, but so much of this is just incorrect I

> can't let it pass.

> ________

> --- kair4me@... wrote:

> From: kair4me@...

>

> Hi Libby

> It's not only the diet soda you need to be fearful

> of. While it is the

> worst, due to the aspartame content, (see

> www.sweetpoison.com) it is by

> no means alone in the damage it causes the body.

>

> The nutrasweet scare is nonsense. There is more

> methanol in and orange

> than in a diet soda.

> _____________________________________

> " It's about alot more than just methanol, and

> besides, what person in

> their right mind would knowingly want to ingest wood

> alcohol anyway?

An orange contains more wood alcohol than a diet soda.

> Scientific studies done since it's release, by

> scientist/researchers who

> have no $$$financial$$$ interest in it, confirm

> that it is a very

> questionable,

Could you provide a reference?

and many say dangerous, substance.

> Most particularly

> disconcerting to me, is there were no studies that

> either validated, or

> repudiated, the then existent concerns about what

> adverse affects it may

> have on growing children. Adults make their own

> choices, good or bad.

> Children don't have that luxury, and are dependent

> upon their

> parents/guardians to make informed, and safe,

> choices for them. Most

> adults are aware of the dangers of tobacco, alcohol,

> caffeine, etc., but

> many choose to ignore the science, and continue to

> use them anyway. A

> few still live very long lives, despite their abuse

> of their body, but

> most people do not. The evidence against aspartame

> is enough to cause

> me to not knowingly include any of it in anything I

> eat or drink.

> Since it is man-made, contains known neurotoxins,

And these neurotoxins are?

> has been shown to be

> harmful to the unborn, facilitates seizures, and

> when heated it breaks

> down into components of wood alcohol and

> formaldehyde, as for me and my

> house we'll pass, thank you very much. Aside from

> the scientific

> evidence, the anecdotal evidence is also

> overwhelming. Too many people

> have had their problems disappear when they simply

> stopped using

> aspartame.

> As for the orange having more methanol than a

> diet soda, I don't know if that's true or not.

Even the nutrasweet haters admit that.

> Perhaps you could

> enlighten me as to the source of this information.

From Betty i, one of the most rabid anti

Nutrasweet people there is.

> All carbonated beverages cause an acid dump into the

> system.

>

> Please write the chemical equation for this

> reaction.

> _____________________________________

> " No equation is possible, without all the specific

> parameters of the

> hypothesis.

Come on. If

> When you consume something that has a

> high quantity/volume

> of acid, you're adding a tremendous extra burden on

> the body to

> neutralize it.

Soda has the same pH as orange juice. Does orange

juice produce a tremendous extra burden on the body to

neutralize it? And soda is less acid than gastric

fluid.

> When I say you're causing an " acid

> dump " , that's what I

> am referring to. If you drink only one cola,

> obviously it will be

> different than drinking a 6 pack. The acid in the

> stomach is highly

> acidic, and stays in the stomach to digest whatever

> we place there.

> What we consume is looked at by the stomach, and

> various acids and

> enzymes are called upon to break it down. The acid

> required for fruits

> and vegetables, is different than that for meats.

I believe the stomach only makes hydrocholric acid.

> Some foods create a

> discharge of alkaline substances into the body,

> others create acidic

> discharges. "

What!?

> ______________________________________

>

>

> The pH on

> sodas range from a 2.0 to 3.5 on the pH scale. This

> is highly acidic.

> Just drinking one soda, requires about 32 glasses of

> water at a pH of

> 9.0 to 10.0 just to neutralize it.

>

> The acid your stomach lining secretes has a pH of 1.

> The gastric mixture

> around 2. Soda is actually *less* acid than what is

> in your stomach

> naturally.

> ______________________________________ " See above,

> and below "

> ______________________________________

>

>

> And soda has the same pH as orange juice.

> ______________________________________

> " True, but while fresh orange juice is natures

> creation, carbonated

> sodas are not.

So what? Hemlock, cancer, and maggots are all nature's

creations as well.

> Orange juice (and citrus juices),

> while being quite

> acidic, also contain minerals,

Sodas contain minerals as well.

> and go through a

> process of digestion

> that makes them readily absorbable. The chemical

> reaction actually

> converts the acids into an alkali which lowers the

> acidity of the fluids

> where they are contained.

Utter nonsense. Please provide the chemical equations

to back this up.

J

=====

Everyone is a foreigner almost everywhere.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi Again " J "

I am not a bio-chemist, so I'll take what a very well respected

bio-chemist has to say about citric acids, and I quote from " Death by

Diet " , by Barefoot. (Pg 56)

" . . .As was previously mentioned, the stomach is very acidic. In fact,

it can have a pH of less than 1.0, which (see pH table) you can see is

over 1,000,000 times the acidity level of healthy saliva at a pH of 7.4.

Although citrus fruits in the 3.0 pH range are quite acidic, they

contain only 1% the level of acids that already exist in the stomach.

Thus, contrary to popular belief, they do not play a significant role in

the acidity of the stomach, or in other words, heartburn. On the

contrary, the mineral nutrients in the easy to digest acidic fruits and

vegetables are readily absorbed, with the help of Vitamin-D, into the

body. The acid hydrogen ions from the fruits and vegetables remain as a

very small part of the overall acid in the stomach. The anion nutrients

(negatively charged molecules, or groups of atoms, which are attached to

the positively charged hydrogen ion), such as the citrates, are all part

of the " Weak Acid " . When these weak acid anions are absorbed into the

body fluids, they combine with the " Strong Cation Mineral Nutrients "

(positively charged molecules), such as potassium (K+) and calcium

(Ca+), to form " alkali salts " , thereby lowering the acidity of the

fluids in which they are contained. Therefore, eating acidic fruits or

vegetables " Does Not Raise the Acidity of the bodies fluids " , but rather

" It Lowers the Acidity of the bodies fluids, . . . " (emphasis added)

End of Quote__________

I'm sure most people are no more interested in the exact chemical

equations and terms, than they are about exactly how their automobile

engine converts the fuel and air mixture into the power that takes them

down the road. The importance of the journey is to arrive at their

destination in a safe manner, which they can do by learning the basic

operating procedures. There is no need to acquire any knowledge of the

physics involved, or the mechanical operation and construction of their

vehicle. If you want to continue believing that aspartame is safe, and

from your posts I assume that is correct, that's your right. I'm not

forcing you to believe one way or another. I am providing documented

information from very credible sources who disagree with that premise.

There are many people with ears that hear, but don't listen; and eyes

that see, but don't catch the vision. If I am proven wrong, for the

moment I'll choose to err on the side of safety. I don't need to use

it, and I have every suspicion that I'm better off not using it. I

prefer not to play Russian-Roulette on the issue. Common sense dictates

that some things are not for regular consumption. Re: Hemlock. Cancer

is not natural, it is an abberation, and Maggots are actually a very

nutritious protein for the body, and in some societies are a delicasy.

See also www.aspartame.com www.presidiotex.com/aspartame

www.dorway.com

www.nancymarkle.com

www.drwhitaker.com

www.cspinet.org

and there are many others.

To your good health,

Doug

BTW " J " , you seem to be big on equations. Are you a chemist? You might

also be interested in reading the book " The Calcium Factor " by Dr. Carl

J. Reich, and Barefoot. It goes into more technical detail

regarding the acid/alkaline balance required in the body, than does

" Death by Diet " .

I believe the following article by Dr. Whitaker, if carefully read,

should answer your other questions.

Dr. n Whitaker on aspartame

The Lowdown on Aspartame

(NutraSweet)

      Artificial sweeteners are marketed with the promise of

weight control, and the vast majority of people who consume them do so

to either lose or avoid gaining weight. Folks, this is a fraud of

gigantic proportions.

      From 1960 to l976, there was virtually no change in the

number of Americans who were overweight: roughly 24 percent of the

population. However, from the mid l980s to the present, this number has

more than doubled to 54 percent! This coincides with the massive

infusion of noncaloric chemical sweeteners and sugar-free " diet " foods

that are eaten by close to three-quarters of the adult population.

      Although several factors contribute to these alarming

statistics, I am convinced that our blind acceptance of the most popular

of these artificial sweeteners, aspartame (NutraSweet, Equal, Spoonful),

plays a significant role in our current weight problems. Far from

helping us lose weight, aspartame has been proven to increase appetite,

especially cravings for sweets. Imagine " diet " products that help you

pack on extra pounds! And aspartame's downside doesn't end with weight

gain: This sweetener is associated with multiple health problems.

ASPARTAME MAY CAUSE A VARIETY OF DISEASES

      Since aspartame came on the market in l981, it has

accounted for more than 75 percent of the complaints reported in the

FDA's Adverse Reaction Monitoring system. The most common adverse

reactions attributed to aspartame are headaches, dizziness, attention

difficulties, memory loss, slurred speech and vision problems. This

cluster of symptoms has become so common that it is actually referred to

as " aspartame disease " .

      Even more serious disorders have a suspected link with

aspartame. Is it an accident that the incidence of brain tumors has

increased by 10% since l975? W. Olney, MD, of the Washington

University Medical School in St. Louis believes there may be a link

between the two. In an article published in The Journal of

Neuropathology and Experimental Neurology, he notes that animal studies

reveal high levels of brain tumors in aspartame-fed rats. According to

Dr. Olney, recent findings show that aspartame has mutagenic

(cancer-causing) potential, and the sharp rise in malignant brain tumors

coincides with the increased use of aspartame.

      Could serious seizures and vision loss somehow be

associated with the sweetener? The U.S. Navy and Air Force published

articles in Navy Physiology and Flying Safety with this warning:

" several researchers have found aspartame can increase the frequency of

seizures, or lower the stimulation necessary to induce them. This means

a pilot who drinks diet sodas is more susceptible to flicker vertigo, or

to flicker-induced epileptic activity. It also means that all pilots are

potential victims of sudden memory loss, dizziness during instrument

flight, and gradual loss of vision. "

      What about multiple sclerosis, chronic fatigue,

rheumatoid arthritis, depression and other mood disorders? I have

reviewed scores of documented cases of patients with symptoms so severe

that they were mistakenly diagnosed with one of these conditions, only

to have all signs of disease completely vanish after getting off

aspartame.

THE FDA IGNORES SAFETY CONCERNS

      Yet the FDA has chosen to turn a deaf ear to repeated

requests by scientists, physicians, and consumers to review aspartame's

safety.

      Aspartame has spelled trouble from the get-go. The

unique property of this chemical, which is 200 times sweeter than sugar,

was accidently discovered in l965 by a chemist trying to develop an

ulcer drug. Although the FDA rescinded its initial approval because of

studies showing that it caused seizures and brain tumors in lab animals,

the agency eventually capitulated to political and monetary pressure and

in l981 gave aspartame the stamp of approval. In doing so, this

bureaucracy overrode the 3-0 decision of a Public Board of Inquiry,

which had reviewed the scientific data and had recommended delaying

approval pending further studies on the sweetener's link with brain

cancer.

      In the intervening years, safety concerns have

mushroomed. Ralph G. Walton, MD, Professor of Psychiatry at Northeastern

Ohio Universities College of Medicine, reviewed all the studies on

aspartame and found 166 with relevance for human safety. Every one of

the 74 studies funded by the aspartame industry gave it a clean bill of

health, while 92 percent of those independently funded revealed safety

problems.

ASPARTAME CAN UPSET BRAIN CHEMISTRY

      Once you understand a bit about the chemistry of

aspartame, you'll see why it can cause so many problems.

      Aspartame is comprised of two amino acids, aspartic acid

and phenylalanine. Aspartic acid acts as an " excitatory "

neurotransmitter, or chemical messenger, in the brain, stimulating

neurons to fire. Problems can arise when aspartic acid is out of balance

with " inhibitory " amino acids that calm things down. Phenylalanine also

easily enters the brain, where it is transformed into neurotransmitters

that can further interfere with normal brain function.

      This is a likely reason why aspartame lowers the

threshold for seizures, mood disorders, and other nervous system

problems. This altered brain chemistry may also be responsible for the

addictive nature of aspartame. Some patients report that getting off

diet soda takes more willpower than giving up cigarettes!

A LITTLE MOONSHINE FOR YOU?

      The remaining component, which makes up 10 percent of

aspartame, may be the most dangerous part. It is a methyl ester that

breaks down after ingestion into methanol, a nervous system toxin also

known as free methyl alcohol or wood alcohol. Methanol is extremely

harmful to the optic nerve. A main ingredient in " moonshine " it was

notorious during Prohibition for causing blindness. Methanol is rapidly

released into the bloodstream, where it is further metabolized into

other harmful components, including formaldehyde (a known neurotoxin and

carcinogen) and formic acid (the poison in ant stings).

      Is it any wonder that many of the symptoms of " aspartame

disease " are neurological and visual? Drinking a diet soda or two (and

I've had patients who drink at least a liter a day) delivers a powerful

chemical rush with decidedly negative effects. With this kind of

questionable history, who would want to consume this artificial

chemical, particularly when there are natural and healthy sweeteners

available?

RECOMMENDATIONS

      Please take the warnings in this article very seriously.

Although some people are much more sensitive to aspartame's adverse

effects than others, damage is likely cumulative. Aspartame is

particularly harmful to children and the developing fetus. I strongly

urge anyone with an aspartame " habit " to get off this harmful sweetener.

For more information on the downside of aspartame, visit www.dorway.com

or send a self-addressed envelope with six stamps to Betty i,

Mission Possible International, 9270 river Club Parkway, Duluth, Georgia

30097.

      Don't trade one bad habit for another by switching to

sugar-laden drinks and sweets. Avoid most bottled or canned sodas, teas

and juices altogether. If they don't contain an artificial sweetener,

they're loaded with some kind of sugar. Your beverage of choice should

be water. (Try perking it up with a slice of lemon.) Sparkling water,

diluted fruit juice, and homemade iced tea flavored with the herbal

sweetener stevia are other options. A few drops of stevia also nicely

sweeten hot tea, coffee, cereal, yogurt, and other foods. Stevia is sold

in health food stores or may be ordered from Amai Health (877/989-9954)

or Wisdom of the Ancients (800/899-9908). We'll talk more about healthy

sweeteners in next month's issue.

(The foregoing article is from Dr. Whitaker's March 2000 vol. 12 No. 3.

You can subscribe to Dr. Whitaker's Health & Healing by calling 800/539-

8219 or go to drwhitaker.com)

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From: Jet <that_jet@...>

--- kair4me@... wrote:

> From: kair4me@...

>

> Hello " J " ,

> My response is in quotes between the lines.

>

>

> REPLY TO  Message From: that_jet@... (Jet)

> Date: Tue, Mar 14,

>

> I'm sorry, but so much of this is just incorrect I

> can't let it pass.

> ________

> --- kair4me@... wrote:

> From: kair4me@...

>

> Hi Libby

> It's not only the diet soda you need to be fearful

> of. While it is the

> worst, due to the aspartame content, (see

> www.sweetpoison.com) it is by

> no means alone in the damage it causes the body.

>

> The nutrasweet scare is nonsense. There is more

> methanol in and orange

> than in a diet soda.

> _____________________________________

> " It's about alot more than just methanol, and

> besides, what person in

> their right mind would knowingly want to ingest wood

> alcohol anyway?

An orange contains more wood alcohol than a diet soda.

> Scientific studies done since it's release, by

> scientist/researchers who

> have no $$$financial$$$ interest in it, confirm

> that it is a very

> questionable,

Could you provide a reference?

and many say dangerous, substance.

> Most particularly

> disconcerting to me, is there were no studies that

> either validated, or

> repudiated, the then existent concerns about what

> adverse affects it may

> have on growing children. Adults make their own

> choices, good or bad.

> Children don't have that luxury, and are dependent

> upon their

> parents/guardians to make informed, and safe,

> choices for them. Most

> adults are aware of the dangers of tobacco, alcohol,

> caffeine, etc., but

> many choose to ignore the science, and continue to

> use them anyway. A

> few still live very long lives, despite their abuse

> of their body, but

> most people do not. The evidence against aspartame

> is enough to cause

> me to not knowingly include any of it in anything I

> eat or drink.

> Since it is man-made, contains known neurotoxins,

And these neurotoxins are?

> has been shown to be

> harmful to the unborn, facilitates seizures, and

> when heated it breaks

> down into components of wood alcohol and

> formaldehyde, as for me and my

> house we'll pass, thank you very much. Aside from

> the scientific

> evidence, the anecdotal evidence is also

> overwhelming. Too many people

> have had their problems disappear when they simply

> stopped using

> aspartame.

> As for the orange having more methanol than a

> diet soda, I don't know if that's true or not.

Even the nutrasweet haters admit that.

> Perhaps you could

> enlighten me as to the source of this information.

From Betty i, one of the most rabid anti

Nutrasweet people there is.

> All carbonated beverages cause an acid dump into the

> system.

>

> Please write the chemical equation for this

> reaction.

> _____________________________________

> " No equation is possible, without all the specific

> parameters of the

> hypothesis.

Come on. If

> When you consume something that has a

> high quantity/volume

> of acid, you're adding a tremendous extra burden on

> the body to

> neutralize it.

Soda has the same pH as orange juice. Does orange

juice produce a tremendous extra burden on the body to

neutralize it? And soda is less acid than gastric

fluid.

> When I say you're causing an " acid

> dump " , that's what I

> am referring to. If you drink only one cola,

> obviously it will be

> different than drinking a 6 pack. The acid in the

> stomach is highly

> acidic, and stays in the stomach to digest whatever

> we place there.

> What we consume is looked at by the stomach, and

> various acids and

> enzymes are called upon to break it down. The acid

> required for fruits

> and vegetables, is different than that for meats.

I believe the stomach only makes hydrocholric acid.

> Some foods create a

> discharge of alkaline substances into the body,

> others create acidic

> discharges. "

What!?

> ______________________________________

>

>

> The pH on

> sodas range from a 2.0 to 3.5 on the pH scale. This

> is highly acidic.

> Just drinking one soda, requires about 32 glasses of

> water at a pH of

> 9.0 to 10.0 just to neutralize it.

>

> The acid your stomach lining secretes has a pH of 1.

> The gastric mixture

> around 2. Soda is actually *less* acid than what is

> in your stomach

> naturally.

> ______________________________________ " See above,

> and below "

> ______________________________________

>

>

> And soda has the same pH as orange juice.

> ______________________________________

> " True, but while fresh orange juice is natures

> creation, carbonated

> sodas are not.

So what? Hemlock, cancer, and maggots are all nature's

creations as well.

> Orange juice (and citrus juices),

> while being quite

> acidic, also contain minerals,

Sodas contain minerals as well.

> and go through a

> process of digestion

> that makes them readily absorbable. The chemical

> reaction actually

> converts the acids into an alkali which lowers the

> acidity of the fluids

> where they are contained.

Utter nonsense. Please provide the chemical equations

to back this up.

J

=====

Everyone is a foreigner almost everywhere.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Please show us the scientific statistics indicating that an orange contains

more wood alcohol than a diet soda.

Re: diet soda

>From: Jet <that_jet@...>

>

>

>

>--- kair4me@... wrote:

>> From: kair4me@...

>>

>> Hello " J " ,

>> My response is in quotes between the lines.

>>

>>

>> REPLY TO Message From: that_jet@... (Jet)

>> Date: Tue, Mar 14,

>>

>> I'm sorry, but so much of this is just incorrect I

>> can't let it pass.

>> ________

>> --- kair4me@... wrote:

>> From: kair4me@...

>>

>> Hi Libby

>> It's not only the diet soda you need to be fearful

>> of. While it is the

>> worst, due to the aspartame content, (see

>> www.sweetpoison.com) it is by

>> no means alone in the damage it causes the body.

>>

>> The nutrasweet scare is nonsense. There is more

>> methanol in and orange

>> than in a diet soda.

>> _____________________________________

>> " It's about alot more than just methanol, and

>> besides, what person in

>> their right mind would knowingly want to ingest wood

>> alcohol anyway?

>

>An orange contains more wood alcohol than a diet soda.

>

>

>> Scientific studies done since it's release, by

>> scientist/researchers who

>> have no $$$financial$$$ interest in it, confirm

>> that it is a very

>> questionable,

>

>Could you provide a reference?

>

>

> and many say dangerous, substance.

>> Most particularly

>> disconcerting to me, is there were no studies that

>> either validated, or

>> repudiated, the then existent concerns about what

>> adverse affects it may

>> have on growing children. Adults make their own

>> choices, good or bad.

>> Children don't have that luxury, and are dependent

>> upon their

>> parents/guardians to make informed, and safe,

>> choices for them. Most

>> adults are aware of the dangers of tobacco, alcohol,

>> caffeine, etc., but

>> many choose to ignore the science, and continue to

>> use them anyway. A

>> few still live very long lives, despite their abuse

>> of their body, but

>> most people do not. The evidence against aspartame

>> is enough to cause

>> me to not knowingly include any of it in anything I

>> eat or drink.

>> Since it is man-made, contains known neurotoxins,

>

>And these neurotoxins are?

>

>

>> has been shown to be

>> harmful to the unborn, facilitates seizures, and

>> when heated it breaks

>> down into components of wood alcohol and

>> formaldehyde, as for me and my

>> house we'll pass, thank you very much. Aside from

>> the scientific

>> evidence, the anecdotal evidence is also

>> overwhelming. Too many people

>> have had their problems disappear when they simply

>> stopped using

>> aspartame.

>> As for the orange having more methanol than a

>> diet soda, I don't know if that's true or not.

>

>Even the nutrasweet haters admit that.

>

>> Perhaps you could

>> enlighten me as to the source of this information.

>

>From Betty i, one of the most rabid anti

>Nutrasweet people there is.

>

>> All carbonated beverages cause an acid dump into the

>> system.

>>

>> Please write the chemical equation for this

>> reaction.

>> _____________________________________

>> " No equation is possible, without all the specific

>> parameters of the

>> hypothesis.

>

>Come on. If

>

>> When you consume something that has a

>> high quantity/volume

>> of acid, you're adding a tremendous extra burden on

>> the body to

>> neutralize it.

>

>Soda has the same pH as orange juice. Does orange

>juice produce a tremendous extra burden on the body to

>neutralize it? And soda is less acid than gastric

>fluid.

>

>> When I say you're causing an " acid

>> dump " , that's what I

>> am referring to. If you drink only one cola,

>> obviously it will be

>> different than drinking a 6 pack. The acid in the

>> stomach is highly

>> acidic, and stays in the stomach to digest whatever

>> we place there.

>> What we consume is looked at by the stomach, and

>> various acids and

>> enzymes are called upon to break it down. The acid

>> required for fruits

>> and vegetables, is different than that for meats.

>

>I believe the stomach only makes hydrocholric acid.

>

>> Some foods create a

>> discharge of alkaline substances into the body,

>> others create acidic

>> discharges. "

>

>What!?

>

>> ______________________________________

>>

>>

>> The pH on

>> sodas range from a 2.0 to 3.5 on the pH scale. This

>> is highly acidic.

>> Just drinking one soda, requires about 32 glasses of

>> water at a pH of

>> 9.0 to 10.0 just to neutralize it.

>>

>> The acid your stomach lining secretes has a pH of 1.

>> The gastric mixture

>> around 2. Soda is actually *less* acid than what is

>> in your stomach

>> naturally.

>> ______________________________________ " See above,

>> and below "

>> ______________________________________

>>

>>

>> And soda has the same pH as orange juice.

>> ______________________________________

>> " True, but while fresh orange juice is natures

>> creation, carbonated

>> sodas are not.

>

>So what? Hemlock, cancer, and maggots are all nature's

>creations as well.

>

>> Orange juice (and citrus juices),

>> while being quite

>> acidic, also contain minerals,

>

>Sodas contain minerals as well.

>

>> and go through a

>> process of digestion

>> that makes them readily absorbable. The chemical

>> reaction actually

>> converts the acids into an alkali which lowers the

>> acidity of the fluids

>> where they are contained.

>

>Utter nonsense. Please provide the chemical equations

>to back this up.

>

>J

>

>=====

>Everyone is a foreigner almost everywhere.

>

>__________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

--- pgr <robrtsn3@...> wrote:

> From: " pgr " <robrtsn3@...>

>

> Please show us the scientific statistics indicating

> that an orange contains

> more wood alcohol than a diet soda.

I got this from the anit-Nutrasweet people. I assume

they would not make *that* up. In any case, the amount

of wood alchohol in a diet soad is trival.

J

Wood alchohol is natural, BTW

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[Guest guest]

<<I had to give up the Diet Pepsi because even though the artificial Sweetener

doesn't have calories it does still raise your Blood sugar (

There's No way in heck I can quit the caffeine Cold turkey... and Besides

that, I just dont want to, LOL I miss my Diet Pepsi terribly and plan to have

one on my free day tomorrow.>>

I have good news. :-)

Artificial sweeteners were originally developed for diabetics because they DON'T

raise blood sugar.

From The American Diabetes Association (www.diabetes.org) Nutrition and Diabetes

FAQ:

~~~~~~~~~

8. Can I use all the artificial sweetener I want?

Artificial sweeteners are safe for everyone except pregnant or breastfeeding

women, who should not use saccharin, and people with phenylketonuria, who should

not use aspartame. Calorie-free sweeteners like aspartame, saccharin, and

acesulfame-K won't increase your blood glucose level. The sugar

alcohols-xylitol, mannitol, and sorbitol-have some calories and do slightly

increase blood glucose level.

~~~~~~~~~

Think about it. Blood sugar levels are life and death matters for diabetics. If

diet sodas had any impact at all on blood sugar, the ADA wouldn't be endorsing

them as safe for diabetics.

Why is this a subject near and dear to my heart you ask? My name is and I

am a diet soda junkie. :-) I knock back two liters a day, easy - in addition to

my gallon and a half of water. Yes, I gurgle when I walk. I'm wide freaking

awake though! LOL

After much research with bodybuilders, competitors, and coaches (and Stace!), I

found the problem with diet soda isn't the sweeteners, it's the carbonation.

That can cause you to retain a little water, just enough to soften your

definition if your body fat is ultra low. So, I still knock off sodas for a

couple of weeks before pictures. I switch to iced tea with Splenda (still a

major caffeine kick), and sugar-free cherry Kool-Aid.

Some people (no matter what their body fat) have a problem with the carbonation

creating a bloaty belly situation. If that's the case, knocking off soda might

improve your waist and abdomen measurements. Other than that, it probably won't

affect your results one way or the other as long as you're drinking enough plain

water.

....oooh! And on free day I go to the little cafe at Borders or and Noble

and get a real soda fountain Coke with a shot of real soda fountain cherry syrup

in it. :-)

[Guest guest]

I'm pretty set on soda. Maybe I'll try the ones you suggested. I know I'm

never going to make much progress 'til I find one I can live with... to keep

me away from the " real thing " .

" Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in

a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, thoroughly

used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming 'Wow - what a Ride!' "

~~ Sage (entrepreneur and speaker)

Re: Diet soda (was: Lydia's

accountability 8/31-9/1)

What else have you tried? I simply can't live without diet mountain

dew, either the original or the code red. They don't seem to have

the diet livewire or pitch black in any of the stores I go to. Also,

Diet Rite tastes really good because it is sweetened with Splenda.

Other choices to consider are the diet Snapple iced teas in Peach

flavor or Raspberry. They are awesome and my daughter takes one in

her lunch every day. Or even those fruit flavored waters like Propel

or Fruit 2/0, also sweetened with Splenda. These are good if you're

looking for a sweet taste without the sugar.

Stasia

[Guest guest]

linnsmama wrote: What was surprising was when we looked at

> people only drinking diet soft drinks, their risk of obesity was even

> higher. "

Makes perfect sensae - the artificial sweeteners slow the metabolism and

are toxic.

Thanks for posting the actual statistics!!!

.....Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

Proverb:Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it.

[Guest guest]

is diet soda a problem during and stage?