Re: Iodine and Heartburn

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" hope0073 " <hope0073@...> wrote:

> I have been taking about 30 mg of liquid iodine (Seadyne) for the

> last

> week. About the 4th day, I began to get a burning sensation in my

> esophagus and chest area. I assume it is heartburn. I have stopped

> the

> iodine for now to see if it clears up.

>

> Does anyone know why this might be happening and what to do about it?

>

> Thanks.

> A new member,

> Hope

Esophagitis is one of the lesser-known symptoms of hypothyroid.

High iodine causes some people to go hypothyroid, or more

hypothyroid than they were, as the body tries to defend

against iodine toxicity. Some people go hyper. Some go hyper

and then hypo. Some appear to have no effect. Some say they

feel better short and long term with no ill effects.

I don't understand why many people seem to think they need to

OD on iodine in order go get a good supplmentation. The World

Health Organization (WHO) toxic limit (for ongoing use?) is

1000 mcg (= 1 mg).

Carol

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I thought the recommended amount was 30 mg every day

for 3 mo. for saturation purposes.

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the insert recommends 50mg/day 2 tabs 2X a day for 3 months. I am on my 4th month. I still need 50mg.

Gracia

I thought the recommended amount was 30 mg every dayfor 3 mo. for saturation purposes.__________________________________________________

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It's 50 mg for 3 months. I finished today. I think Carol needs to read `The

Concept of Orthoiodosupplementation and Its Clinical Implications' since she

doesn't understand what we are doing here.

http://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/IOD-06/IOD_06.htm

--- Hope <hope0073@...> wrote:

> I thought the recommended amount was 30 mg every day

> for 3 mo. for saturation purposes.

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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I really haven't found this to be true! 50mg Iodoral/day produced many strange symptoms (for a few days I felt like toxins were being removed from my brain and hey that was weird), but I always had the feeling powerful healing was going on. Sometimes I was extremely tired but all the symptoms passed, not to return. Maybe it's like the homeopathic model of healing, where old symptoms return before another level of health can be attained. My experience tells me the old thinking on iodine is wrong. And return of hypothyroid symptoms and even elevated TSH don't mean we should lower the dose. It's the healing process at work.

gracia

"hope0073" <hope0073@...> wrote:> I have been taking about 30 mg of liquid iodine (Seadyne) for the> last > week. About the 4th day, I began to get a burning sensation in my > esophagus and chest area. I assume it is heartburn. I have stopped> the > iodine for now to see if it clears up.> > Does anyone know why this might be happening and what to do about it?> > Thanks.> A new member,> HopeEsophagitis is one of the lesser-known symptoms of hypothyroid.High iodine causes some people to go hypothyroid, or morehypothyroid than they were, as the body tries to defendagainst iodine toxicity. Some people go hyper. Some go hyperand then hypo. Some appear to have no effect. Some say theyfeel better short and long term with no ill effects.I don't understand why many people seem to think they need toOD on iodine in order go get a good supplmentation. The WorldHealth Organization (WHO) toxic limit (for ongoing use?) is1000 mcg (= 1 mg).Carolwillis_protocolsmy article archives in Files, blog, Links, not a discussion group.

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A kind soul sent me this recent editorial which

confirms my own expeience:

More about iodine

Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients, April, 2006

by Derrick Lonsdale

Three articles appeared recently in The Original

Internist (1-3) concerning clinical research with the

use of iodine/iodide in megadoses. Our medical group,

consisting of three MDs and one ND/Acupuncturist

decided that we should try to find out whether any one

of us was iodine-deficient. Our practice is in the

Great Lakes region that was described as the " Goiter

Belt " by Brownstein. (3) We therefore followed

Brownstein's recommendation for the iodine/iodide

loading test. Five individuals within our office took

the test and, by the criteria outlined, we were all

iodine-deficient.

Three of us, two MDs and our Laboratory Director, then

proceeded to take the 50 mg of Iodoral a day with the

intention of repeating the iodine/iodide loading test

after three months of treatment. After about six weeks

of continuous treatment, I experienced dysphagia,

resulting in lower chest pain on swallowing both food

and fluids. This was particularly marked with hot

fluids, a totally new experience for me. I told the

Laboratory Director that I was going to discontinue

taking the Iodoral since I had concluded that it was

the potential cause. To my surprise, she told me that

she had experienced exactly the same symptom and had

also discontinued the treatment. The other two MDs who

took the treatment did not experience this symptom.

Some four weeks after discontinuation of the Iodoral,

we both continue to experience the same kind of

dysphagia, although it is much milder. We can only

conclude that we experienced some esophagitis though

this has not been proved by further study.

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A wonderfully effective way to resolve your reflux and indigestion is the

following (in mild or occasional cases, the DGL licorice for a few days may be

all you need. For more severe cases, use the entire program below to restore

healthy digestion).

Improve your digestion by taking the proper enzymes (see below and the

" Enzymes and digestive health " info sheet) and drink sips of warm liquids

instead of cold while eating (cold temperatures inhibit digestive enzyme

function). Long-term use of digestive enzymes can also dramatically improve your

over-all health and well being!

Avoid coffee, aspirin products, colas, and alcohol until your stomach heals

and then use them in limited amounts.

Take measures to heal up your stomach lining. Using DGL licorice (must be

the DGL form as others can cause blood pressure problems-see below) can be

powerfully effective in resolving your symptoms. Research shows that it is as

effective as tagamet, but is healthy for you! Mastic gum 500 mg capsules two

capsules twice a day for two months is also highly effective. Both of these can

be used separately or together. As they help to heal the stomach instead of just

masking symptoms, they may take 3-4 weeks to work in severe cases .You can use

your antacids during that time if you want.

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long-term indigestion. Most doctors treat this with Prilosec combined with 2-3

antibiotics used simultaneously! A better approach is to add Limonene (Heartburn

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only one 10 capsule course!

Similase(by Tyler) or Complete GEST Enzymes (Enzymatic Therapy) – 2 capsules

with each meal to help digest your food properly and drink warm liquids with

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wait till your stomach feels better on # 2 & 3 below before resuming the other

enzymes.

DGL Licorice – 380mg (not the sugar free one) from Enzymatic Therapy or

Rhizinate from PhytoPharmica. Chew 2 tablets 20 minutes before meals.

Mastic Gum (any brand) – 1000mg twice a day for 2 months – then as needed.

Heartburn Free – (Enzymatic Therapy). 1 every other day for 20 days (may

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>

> Someone may have mentioned this somewhere else, if so, my apologies for the

> repetition.

> A couple weeks ago, Ivo recommended the book on stomach acid and why it's

> important

> (btw, THANK YOU Ivo). It's a wonderful book, full of tons of information

> about many things

> not just stomach acid. Anyway, he maintains that heartburn is caused by LOW

> stomach

> acid, not high, as most MDs will tell you. Further, he states that with low

> stomach acid, you

> can't digest your food properly and therefore aren't getting all the

> nutrients you should.

> Well, I've had heartburn for 11 years now and have been taking Zantac the

> whole time.

> Even if you have normal amount of stomach acid (hydrochloric acid, or HCl)

> the Zantac,

> Prevacid, etc. type of meds stop your stomach from producing the acid it

> should, which

> means you aren't absorbing all the nutrients you should be.

> This made me wonder how many folks on the list are on these types of meds

> and aren't

> absorbing all their nutrients as they should. You can take all the supps you

> want, but if

> they aren't absorbed....I'm sure you can do the math.

> Also, there is ALUMINUM in these meds and I don't think I need to tell

> anyone here that

> aluminum has been attributed to be a cause of Alzheimer's.

> I'm slowly weaning myself off all my Big Pharma " medications " . I'm still on

> Zantac but

> wont be any more as soon as my Swansons delivery shows up, at least I hope.

> The natural cure, according to Dr. , is HCl betaine pepsin.

> You can find

> that all in one tablet at Swanson's if you put hydrochloric acid in the

> search box.

>

> It made me wonder how many of us aren't absorbing all the iodine we should

> be. Mods,

> what say you about all this?

> Thank you,

> Ariel

>

> --

> * " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " *

> -*Tom Donohue*

>

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Yes, all this is true, Ariel. What people usually need is digestive

enzymes and sometimes HC acid.

There are many reasons why people may not be seeing the results they are

hoping for with the iodine protocol. One may be, unrealistically high

hopes. Among the many reasons can be digestive issues.

For sure, Zantec and the like usually are harming people. As you say,

indigestion is almost always a result of too little stomach acid. Another

way public health is not served by Pharma.

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At 05:19 PM 6/17/2011, you wrote:

>Someone may have mentioned this somewhere else, if so, my apologies for

>the repetition.

>A couple weeks ago, Ivo recommended the book on stomach acid and why it's

>important

>(btw, THANK YOU Ivo). It's a wonderful book, full of tons of information

>about many things

>not just stomach acid. Anyway, he maintains that heartburn is caused by

>LOW stomach

>acid, not high, as most MDs will tell you. Further, he states that with

>low stomach acid, you

>can't digest your food properly and therefore aren't getting all the

>nutrients you should.

>Well, I've had heartburn for 11 years now and have been taking Zantac the

>whole time.

>Even if you have normal amount of stomach acid (hydrochloric acid, or HCl)

>the Zantac,

>Prevacid, etc. type of meds stop your stomach from producing the acid it

>should, which

>means you aren't absorbing all the nutrients you should be.

>This made me wonder how many folks on the list are on these types of meds

>and aren't

>absorbing all their nutrients as they should. You can take all the supps

>you want, but if

>they aren't absorbed....I'm sure you can do the math.

>Also, there is ALUMINUM in these meds and I don't think I need to tell

>anyone here that

>aluminum has been attributed to be a cause of Alzheimer's.

>I'm slowly weaning myself off all my Big Pharma " medications " . I'm still

>on Zantac but

>wont be any more as soon as my Swansons delivery shows up, at least I hope.

>The natural cure, according to Dr. , is HCl betaine pepsin.

>You can find

>that all in one tablet at Swanson's if you put hydrochloric acid in the

>search box.

>

>It made me wonder how many of us aren't absorbing all the iodine we should

>be. Mods,

>what say you about all this?

>Thank you,

>Ariel

>

>--

> " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. "

>-Tom Donohue

>

>

>

>

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

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for those intrested in the subject some more info from jeffrey dach

 

http://jeffreydach.com/2009/09/14/heartburn-and-acid-blockers-by-jeffrey-dach-md.aspx

 

 

 

On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 5:51 AM, B <vbaker@...> wrote:

 

Yes, all this is true, Ariel. What people usually need is digestive enzymes and sometimes HC acid.There are many reasons why people may not be seeing the results they are hoping for with the iodine protocol. One may be, unrealistically high

hopes. Among the many reasons can be digestive issues.For sure, Zantec and the like usually are harming people. As you say, indigestion is almost always a result of too little stomach acid. Another way public health is not served by Pharma.

--

At 05:19 PM 6/17/2011, you wrote:>Someone may have mentioned this somewhere else, if so, my apologies for >the repetition.>A couple weeks ago, Ivo recommended the book on stomach acid and why it's

>important>(btw, THANK YOU Ivo). It's a wonderful book, full of tons of information >about many things>not just stomach acid. Anyway, he maintains that heartburn is caused by >LOW stomach

>acid, not high, as most MDs will tell you. Further, he states that with >low stomach acid, you>can't digest your food properly and therefore aren't getting all the >nutrients you should.

>Well, I've had heartburn for 11 years now and have been taking Zantac the >whole time.>Even if you have normal amount of stomach acid (hydrochloric acid, or HCl) >the Zantac,>Prevacid, etc. type of meds stop your stomach from producing the acid it

>should, which>means you aren't absorbing all the nutrients you should be.>This made me wonder how many folks on the list are on these types of meds >and aren't>absorbing all their nutrients as they should. You can take all the supps

>you want, but if>they aren't absorbed....I'm sure you can do the math.>Also, there is ALUMINUM in these meds and I don't think I need to tell >anyone here that>aluminum has been attributed to be a cause of Alzheimer's.

>I'm slowly weaning myself off all my Big Pharma " medications " . I'm still >on Zantac but>wont be any more as soon as my Swansons delivery shows up, at least I hope.>The natural cure, according to Dr. , is HCl betaine pepsin.

>You can find>that all in one tablet at Swanson's if you put hydrochloric acid in the >search box.>>It made me wonder how many of us aren't absorbing all the iodine we should >be. Mods,

>what say you about all this?>Thank you,>Ariel>>--> " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " >-Tom Donohue>>>>

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste