Successful flush

August 28, 2006

Hi all, I am in Australia. I did my first flush on the weekend after

having my first gallstone attack some weeks ago and researching

(mostly

through this forum). (I used Dr Hulda e's epsom and

oil/grapefruit routine).

Just one question really - hoping someone can help me. I passed

hundreds of soft greenish lumps with dark green cores - these seem to

be typical of the cholesterol stones discussed elsewhere - mostly

around 3 to 8mm in size (up to about 1/2 " diameter). These stones

floated and were easy to collect.

When I had my ultrasound (prior to the flush) the doctor identified a

mound of stones in my gallbladder and showed them to me - they were

around the 3mm size, but they did not float. He also told me that

they

were hard, calcified lumps. The flush did pass some gritty lumps,

although after some time I couldn't handle trawling through my

excetions any more - these lumps were like largish grains of sand.

So the big question is - are the non-gritty lumps I passed actually

gallstones -

and if so, how do they go from sinking to floating? I'm pretty

certain

that the hard grainy ones where what I was hoping to pass, but not

sure

on the anatomy/physiology of the cholesterol lumps and where they

actually come from. Would these lumps have shown on the ultrasound,

do

they come from the gallbladder or had they been lurking in the

intestinal tract?

Hope someone can help, and thanks for this great forum

p.s. that last dose of epsoms was sure hard to stomach!!!

Kind regards,

August 29, 2006

according to andreas moritzm' the amazing liver & gallbladder flush'.

most of the stones are comming from your liver which is clogged up too.

it took me 10 flushes to get the odd shaped stone out of my gallbladder

seen by the cat scan.

congragulations on your sucessful flush most people do not get so many

on the first flush. also you may suck on a piece of candy of cough drop

to get the taste out of your mouth, then spit it out.

>

> Hi all, I am in Australia. I did my first flush on the weekend after

> having my first gallstone attack some weeks ago and researching

> (mostly

> through this forum). (I used Dr Hulda e's epsom and

> oil/grapefruit routine).

>

> Just one question really - hoping someone can help me. I passed

> hundreds of soft greenish lumps with dark green cores - these seem to

> be typical of the cholesterol stones discussed elsewhere - mostly

> around 3 to 8mm in size (up to about 1/2 " diameter). These stones

> floated and were easy to collect.

>

> When I had my ultrasound (prior to the flush) the doctor identified a

> mound of stones in my gallbladder and showed them to me - they were

> around the 3mm size, but they did not float. He also told me that

> they

> were hard, calcified lumps. The flush did pass some gritty lumps,

> although after some time I couldn't handle trawling through my

> excetions any more - these lumps were like largish grains of sand.

>

> So the big question is - are the non-gritty lumps I passed actually

> gallstones -

> and if so, how do they go from sinking to floating? I'm pretty

> certain

> that the hard grainy ones where what I was hoping to pass, but not

> sure

> on the anatomy/physiology of the cholesterol lumps and where they

> actually come from. Would these lumps have shown on the ultrasound,

> do

> they come from the gallbladder or had they been lurking in the

> intestinal tract?

>

> Hope someone can help, and thanks for this great forum

> p.s. that last dose of epsoms was sure hard to stomach!!!

>

> Kind regards,

>

August 29, 2006

disect a green lump and you should find something in the middle of each...there

are many types of stones...tell us what you find.

ernest crosby <papa517@...> wrote:

according to andreas moritzm' the amazing liver & gallbladder flush'.

most of the stones are comming from your liver which is clogged up too.

it took me 10 flushes to get the odd shaped stone out of my gallbladder

seen by the cat scan.

congragulations on your sucessful flush most people do not get so many

on the first flush. also you may suck on a piece of candy of cough drop

to get the taste out of your mouth, then spit it out.

>

> Hi all, I am in Australia. I did my first flush on the weekend after

> having my first gallstone attack some weeks ago and researching

> (mostly

> through this forum). (I used Dr Hulda e's epsom and

> oil/grapefruit routine).

>

> Just one question really - hoping someone can help me. I passed

> hundreds of soft greenish lumps with dark green cores - these seem to

> be typical of the cholesterol stones discussed elsewhere - mostly

> around 3 to 8mm in size (up to about 1/2 " diameter). These stones

> floated and were easy to collect.

>

> When I had my ultrasound (prior to the flush) the doctor identified a

> mound of stones in my gallbladder and showed them to me - they were

> around the 3mm size, but they did not float. He also told me that

> they

> were hard, calcified lumps. The flush did pass some gritty lumps,

> although after some time I couldn't handle trawling through my

> excetions any more - these lumps were like largish grains of sand.

>

> So the big question is - are the non-gritty lumps I passed actually

> gallstones -

> and if so, how do they go from sinking to floating? I'm pretty

> certain

> that the hard grainy ones where what I was hoping to pass, but not

> sure

> on the anatomy/physiology of the cholesterol lumps and where they

> actually come from. Would these lumps have shown on the ultrasound,

> do

> they come from the gallbladder or had they been lurking in the

> intestinal tract?

>

> Hope someone can help, and thanks for this great forum

> p.s. that last dose of epsoms was sure hard to stomach!!!

>

> Kind regards,

>

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August 29, 2006

Why don't u go to the doctor again and get your ultrasound taken again by the

same doctor "

<sennyjiff@...> wrote:

Hi all, I am in Australia. I did my first flush on the weekend after

having my first gallstone attack some weeks ago and researching

(mostly

through this forum). (I used Dr Hulda e's epsom and

oil/grapefruit routine).

Just one question really - hoping someone can help me. I passed

hundreds of soft greenish lumps with dark green cores - these seem to

be typical of the cholesterol stones discussed elsewhere - mostly

around 3 to 8mm in size (up to about 1/2 " diameter). These stones

floated and were easy to collect.

When I had my ultrasound (prior to the flush) the doctor identified a

mound of stones in my gallbladder and showed them to me - they were

around the 3mm size, but they did not float. He also told me that

they

were hard, calcified lumps. The flush did pass some gritty lumps,

although after some time I couldn't handle trawling through my

excetions any more - these lumps were like largish grains of sand.

So the big question is - are the non-gritty lumps I passed actually

gallstones -

and if so, how do they go from sinking to floating? I'm pretty

certain

that the hard grainy ones where what I was hoping to pass, but not

sure

on the anatomy/physiology of the cholesterol lumps and where they

actually come from. Would these lumps have shown on the ultrasound,

do

they come from the gallbladder or had they been lurking in the

intestinal tract?

Hope someone can help, and thanks for this great forum

p.s. that last dose of epsoms was sure hard to stomach!!!

Kind regards,

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Hi.. I am new here..Hello... ) Could anyone tell me which one is the best

and the easiest? I am new here and I have some kind of gout symtom which hurt my

hands and wrists very much...It has been a year and doctor can't do anything

only give me medicine. and the shot (steroid). Also, do we have to do parasite

clean first in order to do liver clean???? If yes, which one is the best,

clakia or parabuster, I check parabuster, it is kind of expensive and has to do

it 6 weeks without eating daily product, that is tough for me since I love to

eat egg sometimes..on weekend..LOL ) Thanks so much for helping me..and God

bless you all..Kiki...From: ernest crosby [mailto: papa517@...]To:

gallstones@...: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 01:04:07 -0000Subject:

Re: Successful flush

according to andreas moritzm' the amazing liver & amp; gallbladder flush'. most

of the stones are comming from your liver which is clogged up too. it took me 10

flushes to get the odd shaped stone out of my gallbladderseen by the cat

scan.congragulations on your sucessful flush most people do not get so manyon

the first flush. also you may suck on a piece of candy of cough dropto get the

taste out of your mouth, then spit it out.--- In gallstones ,

" "

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August 29, 2006

Hi all,

Ernest: I'll give the lollypop suggestion a go - planning to repeat the

routine in a couple of months.

Jay: I tossed the stones - I am an acupuncturist and remember the

story of a patient accosting one of my colleagues in the main street

waving her collection of stones for all to see - didn't want to become

one of those!! (There ARE limits . . . ). I did disect a couple of

them at the time, however, and they all had a deep emerald green centre

with a thick pasty texture. Is this info of any help?

Kind regards,

,

> according to andreas moritzm' the amazing liver & gallbladder

flush'.

> most of the stones are comming from your liver which is clogged up

too.

> it took me 10 flushes to get the odd shaped stone out of my

gallbladder

> seen by the cat scan.

>

> congragulations on your sucessful flush most people do not get so

many

> on the first flush. also you may suck on a piece of candy of cough

drop

> to get the taste out of your mouth, then spit it out.

January 5, 2009

can you share the recipie of the flush and how big were the stones. Mine

biggest is 1.7 cm and i am scared to flush it out as my doctor told me that

chances are that during the flush it may get stuck in the duct. What do u

say?

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Rose Conforti <roseconforti@...>wrote:

> Hi everyone!

>

> Success! Plenty of floating stones and all is brown. I must admit white is

> a bit prettier but dangerous--not a good combo.

>

> Thanks for the support. I am planning on doing this every three months for

> quite a while.

>

> All the best.

>

> Rose

>

January 6, 2009

Hi Munawar,

I can share what i know and what I have done. I believe there are people on

this site who have more knowledge and experience...i.e. dave sheldon and

elan...so hopefully they will edit/piggyback on what I share.

I drank only apple cider with apple cider vinegar for four days. I believe,

although I don't know if necessary) you can go longer. The malic acid in

juice helps soften stones.

In addition, I added orthophosphoric acid to the mix (you can get it on line).

This was also to soften stones.

Then I drank epsom salts and took magnesium capsules. Dave suggests you do

this for 24 hours prior to flush to relax and open the ducts. There is also a

product which I have taken before that I did not take because I didn't have it

on hand that also relaxes the ducts...it's called orchex by standard process.

Then I used a hot water bottle over my gallbladder often to keep it warm. I

also did a castor oil pack over my gallbladder also to help remove toxins and

relax the area. Look this up too...basically you take a wool/cotton cloth

doused with castor oil. Then take plastic wrap and put cloth on your

gallbladder---wrap the plastic around and then apply hot water bottle to heat

the area.

I do believe you can soften stones naturally and then pass them, but it is

important to prepare properly. I may have had one stuck because I pooped white

after my first night of flushing. But, this morning a pretty large one came

out. I would guess it was about half an inch long although I didn't measure...

Hope this was helpful....All the best!

Rose

________________________________

From: Munawar Rasheed <munawarr@...>

gallstones

Sent: Monday, January 5, 2009 1:51:55 PM

Subject: Re: successful flush

can you share the recipie of the flush and how big were the stones. Mine

biggest is 1.7 cm and i am scared to flush it out as my doctor told me that

chances are that during the flush it may get stuck in the duct. What do u

say?

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Rose Conforti <roseconforti>wrote:

> Hi everyone!

>

> Success! Plenty of floating stones and all is brown. I must admit white is

> a bit prettier but dangerous--not a good combo.

>

> Thanks for the support. I am planning on doing this every three months for

> quite a while.

>

> All the best.

>

> Rose

>

January 6, 2009

the apple cider does not soften stones - it is for digestion - but you can use

malic acid or natural apple juice leading up to the flush - all you have to do

is research, this has all been done before, we are not reinventing the wheel.

From: Rose Conforti <roseconforti@...>

Subject: Re: successful flush

gallstones

Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 5:47 PM

Hi Munawar,

I can share what i know and what I have done. I believe there are people on this

site who have more knowledge and experience.. .i.e. dave sheldon and elan...so

hopefully they will edit/piggyback on what I share.

I drank only apple cider with apple cider vinegar for four days. I believe,

although I don't know if necessary) you can go longer. The malic acid in juice

helps soften stones.

In addition, I added orthophosphoric acid to the mix (you can get it on line).

This was also to soften stones.

Then I drank epsom salts and took magnesium capsules. Dave suggests you do this

for 24 hours prior to flush to relax and open the ducts. There is also a product

which I have taken before that I did not take because I didn't have it on hand

that also relaxes the ducts...it's called orchex by standard process.

Then I used a hot water bottle over my gallbladder often to keep it warm. I also

did a castor oil pack over my gallbladder also to help remove toxins and relax

the area. Look this up too...basically you take a wool/cotton cloth doused with

castor oil. Then take plastic wrap and put cloth on your gallbladder- --wrap the

plastic around and then apply hot water bottle to heat the area.

I do believe you can soften stones naturally and then pass them, but it is

important to prepare properly. I may have had one stuck because I pooped white

after my first night of flushing. But, this morning a pretty large one came out.

I would guess it was about half an inch long although I didn't measure...

Hope this was helpful....All the best!

Rose

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Munawar Rasheed <munawarrgmail (DOT) com>

gallstones@gro ups.com

Sent: Monday, January 5, 2009 1:51:55 PM

Subject: Re: successful flush

can you share the recipie of the flush and how big were the stones. Mine

biggest is 1.7 cm and i am scared to flush it out as my doctor told me that

chances are that during the flush it may get stuck in the duct. What do u

say?

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Rose Conforti <roseconforti>wrote:

> Hi everyone!

>

> Success! Plenty of floating stones and all is brown. I must admit white is

> a bit prettier but dangerous--not a good combo.

>

> Thanks for the support. I am planning on doing this every three months for

> quite a while.

>

> All the best.

>

> Rose

>

January 6, 2009

>

> Hi everyone!

>

> Success! Plenty of floating stones and all is brown. I must admit

white is a bit prettier but dangerous--not a good combo.

>

> Thanks for the support. I am planning on doing this every three

months for quite a while.

>

> All the best.

>

> Rose

>

Hi Rose,

Congratulations! So glad to hear that you had a successful flush.

If you can work it into your schedule, you might consider doing your

flushes a bit more frequently. From what I understand you can even do

a series of them as close as 2 weeks apart. Evidently this really

helps to get things moving, as stones that are in the liver may begin

to move more rapidly down out of the liver and into the gall bladder

for elimination as the existing stones, chaff and sludge in the gall

bladder itself are flushed out more frequently.

elan

January 6, 2009

What's your point Jay,

Sharing together is part of research. We communicate and share information

and share what works from experience. Agreed, one can look up anything on

line, but there is nothing more potent than speaking/writing (in this case) to

a human being directly. Even though we don't know each other, I still receive

the benefit of feeling someone out there cares and supports my efforts. This is

a SUPPORT group not a group who is trying to reinvent any wheel.

Thanks for the distinction between apple juice and cider. wasn't aware of

difference.

Rose

________________________________

From: Jay Grosflam <jgrosflam@...>

gallstones

Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2009 12:06:23 AM

Subject: Re: successful flush

the apple cider does not soften stones - it is for digestion - but you can use

malic acid or natural apple juice leading up to the flush - all you have to do

is research, this has all been done before, we are not reinventing the wheel.

From: Rose Conforti <roseconforti>