Re: Preparing to flush for the first time

[Guest guest]

Epsolm salt- you can make pills (a little easier- pack veggie caps full)

Hulda 's method uses grapefruit juice. I always use more juice.

Rob & <wob@...> wrote:

I'm going to do my first flush next weekend. I have Cabots healthy

liver and bowel book, in it she has this flush .....

Drink 1L organic unsweetened apple juice daily for five days. During these

5 days eat mainly raw fruits and veges, no diary, red meat or chicken (I'm

thinking I'll just have steamed fish and salad for tea each night)

On day 6 skip dinner and and 6pm take a tbs epsom salts with 3 glasses of

water (I hear you can drink epsom salts with apple juice makes it easier to

take???) repeat at 8pm

At 10pm drink 115ml of olive oil with fresh squeezed lemon juice (can it be

any citrus or must it be lemon??)

I know everyone is different, but are there any little variations or things

to remember that will make it easier/better?

Your knowledge is much appreciated

Thanks

Tan

[Guest guest]

Hi Tan,

Sounds like you will be very prepared for your flush with this

protocol, and I've found that the better prepared your system is

before the flush the better the flush.

A couple of comments:

1) You may have heard that mixing fresh sqeezed Grapefruit juice with

the Epsoms tastes much better (not mixed with apple juice). I thought

I'd try mixing Epsoms with organic Apple juice my last flush. I'll

never do that again It tasted much worse than the Epsoms by itself

if you can imagine that. The Grapefruit juice and Epsoms does taste

better than the Epsoms by itself.

2) Fresh squeezed grapefruit juice mixed well with the olive oil

makes a concoction that is much easier to drink and hold down. The

lemon juice and olive oil does not mix as well together. They stay

more separated. I use fresh sqeezed grapefruit juice instead of lemon

juice for that reason. Lemon juice does work, and many people flush

with it.

Best regards,

Vince

>

> I'm going to do my first flush next weekend. I have Cabots

healthy

> liver and bowel book, in it she has this flush .....

>

> Drink 1L organic unsweetened apple juice daily for five days.

During these

> 5 days eat mainly raw fruits and veges, no diary, red meat or

chicken (I'm

> thinking I'll just have steamed fish and salad for tea each night)

> On day 6 skip dinner and and 6pm take a tbs epsom salts with 3

glasses of

> water (I hear you can drink epsom salts with apple juice makes it

easier to

> take???) repeat at 8pm

> At 10pm drink 115ml of olive oil with fresh squeezed lemon juice

(can it be

> any citrus or must it be lemon??)

>

> I know everyone is different, but are there any little variations or

things

> to remember that will make it easier/better?

>

> Your knowledge is much appreciated

> Thanks

> Tan

[Guest guest]

Good luck, I'n not against detoxing but drinking epson salt and

straight oil can't be good for your system, that's why you get

diaria. And there are no gallstones floating around in there. I had

diaria last week and there were little green pellets floating around

on top. It's gross but they were no gallstones and I don't believe

you are seeing gallstones just diaria chunks. My opinion, and a

damn good one.

>

> I'm going to do my first flush next weekend. I have Cabots

healthy

> liver and bowel book, in it she has this flush .....

>

> Drink 1L organic unsweetened apple juice daily for five days.

During these

> 5 days eat mainly raw fruits and veges, no diary, red meat or

chicken (I'm

> thinking I'll just have steamed fish and salad for tea each night)

> On day 6 skip dinner and and 6pm take a tbs epsom salts with 3

glasses of

> water (I hear you can drink epsom salts with apple juice makes it

easier to

> take???) repeat at 8pm

> At 10pm drink 115ml of olive oil with fresh squeezed lemon juice

(can it be

> any citrus or must it be lemon??)

>

> I know everyone is different, but are there any little variations

or things

> to remember that will make it easier/better?

>

> Your knowledge is much appreciated

> Thanks

> Tan

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

hello expert - your opinion needs to have more research behind it before it is

excepted as fact. Please read and open your mind and close your mouth.

dfell2 <dfell2@...> wrote: Good luck, I'n not against detoxing but

drinking epson salt and

straight oil can't be good for your system, that's why you get

diaria. And there are no gallstones floating around in there. I had

diaria last week and there were little green pellets floating around

on top. It's gross but they were no gallstones and I don't believe

you are seeing gallstones just diaria chunks. My opinion, and a

damn good one.

>

> I'm going to do my first flush next weekend. I have Cabots

healthy

> liver and bowel book, in it she has this flush .....

>

> Drink 1L organic unsweetened apple juice daily for five days.

During these

> 5 days eat mainly raw fruits and veges, no diary, red meat or

chicken (I'm

> thinking I'll just have steamed fish and salad for tea each night)

> On day 6 skip dinner and and 6pm take a tbs epsom salts with 3

glasses of

> water (I hear you can drink epsom salts with apple juice makes it

easier to

> take???) repeat at 8pm

> At 10pm drink 115ml of olive oil with fresh squeezed lemon juice

(can it be

> any citrus or must it be lemon??)

>

> I know everyone is different, but are there any little variations

or things

> to remember that will make it easier/better?

>

> Your knowledge is much appreciated

> Thanks

> Tan

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Good luck, I'n not against detoxing but drinking epson salt and

> straight oil can't be good for your system, that's why you get

> diaria.

Yes, of course. The diarrhea is intentional. It clears the path for

the gallstones to travel out of the body faster. The epsoms and oil

isn't meant to be " good for the system " . They are meant to flush

gallstones without surgery and no harm to the body. This is very good

for the system. Many intellegent level headed people have experienced

real (not placebo) health benefits from flushing. You can too.

>And there are no gallstones floating around in there. I had

> diaria last week and there were little green pellets floating around

> on top. It's gross but they were no gallstones and I don't believe

> you are seeing gallstones just diaria chunks.

Diarrhea doesn't have chunks, it is liquid by definition. It doesn't

have green pellets either, unless it has gallstones in it. Gallstones

are green and can be seen at the site's links in pictures. The same

gallstones removed in gallbladders by surgery can easily be flushed

out without surgery.

>My opinion, and a

> damn good one.

>

That's a matter of opinion. Where did you get your opinion? That's

the question. The source of information from which you form your

opinions must be reliable and tell the whole story. Believing only

what you want to believe is not good enough. We've been told only

part of the story at best, and lied to at worst. We must form our

opinions only after looking at all the facts. That's where the

internet comes in. People sharing what they've learned in forums not

controlled by any popular ideology or big money interest. Keep

looking at all the facts and you will be surprised....

Best Regards,

Vince

[Guest guest]

Wow,

Such a bold statement. First of all. I hate to be so picky, but if you're

really going to come across so educated please do spell the word diarrhea

correctly. This is really a pet peave of mine. Ok, on to your post.

Please do explain your scientific data to backup your claim that epsom salts and

oils are not good for our systems.

Then, after that data, please do tell me what the green things are that are

floating in my toilet after I've completed a very successful flush??

And, since your opinion is a damn good one, please tell all of us why we should

value your opinion?

Bottom line, I will continue to flush as I do know that gallstones are being

flushed from my body. I've never felt better and I haven't experienced an

attack in over a year thanks to my flushes.

Craig

>

> From: " dfell2 " <dfell2@...>

> Date: 2006/01/05 Thu AM 09:29:52 EST

> gallstones

> Subject: Re: Preparing to flush for the first time

>

>

[Guest guest]

Opinions are like *******s, everyone has one, and they all stink. -Dave

----- Original Message -----

From: dfell2<mailto:dfell2@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 6:29 AM

Subject: Re: Preparing to flush for the first time

Good luck, I'n not against detoxing but drinking epson salt and

straight oil can't be good for your system, that's why you get

diaria. And there are no gallstones floating around in there. I had

diaria last week and there were little green pellets floating around

on top. It's gross but they were no gallstones and I don't believe

you are seeing gallstones just diaria chunks. My opinion, and a

damn good one.

>

> I'm going to do my first flush next weekend. I have Cabots

healthy

> liver and bowel book, in it she has this flush .....

>

> Drink 1L organic unsweetened apple juice daily for five days.

During these

> 5 days eat mainly raw fruits and veges, no diary, red meat or

chicken (I'm

> thinking I'll just have steamed fish and salad for tea each night)

> On day 6 skip dinner and and 6pm take a tbs epsom salts with 3

glasses of

> water (I hear you can drink epsom salts with apple juice makes it

easier to

> take???) repeat at 8pm

> At 10pm drink 115ml of olive oil with fresh squeezed lemon juice

(can it be

> any citrus or must it be lemon??)

>

> I know everyone is different, but are there any little variations

or things

> to remember that will make it easier/better?

>

> Your knowledge is much appreciated

> Thanks

> Tan

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

diarea is a form of constipation as the intestines can not absorb

food so your body goes into flush out toxins mode

I dont care what you think the little green chunks are they are toxins

none the less

epsom salt is a laxative and has been used for a long time as such

olive oil is natural and is good for your arteries and veins it is

an alkalyzer.

juices such as lemon or orange juice are citric acid solvents that flush

out

the other acids from your system very good for changeing your body

chemistry back to healthy. May temporary bring on sickness to acidic

people but just until you get over the hump better to do that then to

stay acidic. Acidic ph is a breeding ground for bacteria virus and

cancer. Detoxing is removing the acidic waste carbon dioxide is an

acidic waste that is what you breath out your lungs.

Jay Grosflam wrote:

> hello expert - your opinion needs to have more research behind it

> before it is excepted as fact. Please read and open your mind and

> close your mouth.

>

> dfell2 <dfell2@...> wrote: Good luck, I'n not against

> detoxing but drinking epson salt and

> straight oil can't be good for your system, that's why you get

> diaria. And there are no gallstones floating around in there. I had

> diaria last week and there were little green pellets floating around

> on top. It's gross but they were no gallstones and I don't believe

> you are seeing gallstones just diaria chunks. My opinion, and a

> damn good one.

>

>

>

> >

> > I'm going to do my first flush next weekend. I have Cabots

> healthy

> > liver and bowel book, in it she has this flush .....

> >

> > Drink 1L organic unsweetened apple juice daily for five days.

> During these

> > 5 days eat mainly raw fruits and veges, no diary, red meat or

> chicken (I'm

> > thinking I'll just have steamed fish and salad for tea each night)

> > On day 6 skip dinner and and 6pm take a tbs epsom salts with 3

> glasses of

> > water (I hear you can drink epsom salts with apple juice makes it

> easier to

> > take???) repeat at 8pm

> > At 10pm drink 115ml of olive oil with fresh squeezed lemon juice

> (can it be

> > any citrus or must it be lemon??)

> >

> > I know everyone is different, but are there any little variations

> or things

> > to remember that will make it easier/better?

> >

> > Your knowledge is much appreciated

> > Thanks

> > Tan

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: Belskis<mailto:brian0017@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 4:18 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Preparing to flush for the first time

diarea is a form of constipation

? -Dave

[Guest guest]

, you constantly have me close (but not there) to speechless. Where do you

get this stuff? The triggers for both the production of bile and the release of

bile do not originate from the large bowel due to what I assume you are trying

to describe-impaction. If so, the vast majority of Americans would have

diarrhea all the time. Bile does increase peristaltic action which can lead to

diarrhea, but not necessarily so.

Your description of diarrhea is just... that.

----- Original Message -----

From: Belskis<mailto:brian0017@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 1:29 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Preparing to flush for the first time

constipation is any form of blockage

when the intestines are clogged to the point that food can not be

absorbed to the blood stream through the intestinal walls the body

particularly your liver sends bile to the intestines to flush out the

intestines and remove the blockage. this is diarea

So diarea is a symptom of a constipation problem

constipation is any form of blockage were waste can not get out or

nutrients can not get in

[Guest guest]

constipation is any form of blockage

when the intestines are clogged to the point that food can not be

absorbed to the blood stream through the intestinal walls the body

particularly your liver sends bile to the intestines to flush out the

intestines and remove the blockage. this is diarea

So diarea is a symptom of a constipation problem

constipation is any form of blockage were waste can not get out or

nutrients can not get in

Dave Shelden wrote:

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Belskis<mailto:brian0017@...>

> gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 4:18 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: Preparing to flush for the first time

>

>

> diarea is a form of constipation

>

> ? -Dave

>

>

[Guest guest]

Not all diarrhea is contstipation but for those that have 40 pounds

of fecal material in there colon and have diarrhea it is a sign

of constipation . I have a realative in the hospital now who has

constant diarrhea because of all the antibotics they are giving her

by IV as fast as they give it to her it comes out in a bowl movement.

And you may be right most americans probably have diarrhea. I was at

university of Chicago and an Ethopean student flew in and was at

Navy Pier. This was his first experience in america . He seen a

obese woman who weighed about 320 pounds on the 4 person bicycle

riding the bicycle trails along the lake front. He was laughing

and could not believe what he was seeing . As we americans were known

to make skinny ethiopian jokes about an ethopean eating a grain of

rice, He never saw people so big in his life.

so far the most truth I find from Hay MD and his books

from Henry G, Bieler MD and his books

Hulda has some intresting insights

and students of and himself are

intresting

this website in particular

http://www.108pages.com/

Dave Shelden wrote:

> , you constantly have me close (but not there) to speechless.

> Where do you get this stuff? The triggers for both the production of

> bile and the release of bile do not originate from the large bowel due

> to what I assume you are trying to describe-impaction. If so, the

> vast majority of Americans would have diarrhea all the time. Bile

> does increase peristaltic action which can lead to diarrhea, but not

> necessarily so.

>

> Your description of diarrhea is just... that.

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Belskis<mailto:brian0017@...>

> gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 1:29 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: Preparing to flush for the first time

>

>

> constipation is any form of blockage

>

> when the intestines are clogged to the point that food can not be

> absorbed to the blood stream through the intestinal walls the body

> particularly your liver sends bile to the intestines to flush out the

> intestines and remove the blockage. this is diarea

>

> So diarea is a symptom of a constipation problem

>

> constipation is any form of blockage were waste can not get out or

> nutrients can not get in

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hm...after reading a few of these posts I might think my body isn't producing

enough bile... Digestion of ANYTHING takes all day, literally. From salads,

fresh smoothies, to heavy stuff like pizza. And since I read quite a bit that

bile is necessary for digestion...and thinking I don't have enough bile..that

leads me to believe that's the cause for my slow digestion... Any one have any

comments or similar experiences?

I'm also not losing any weight...despite having only fresh juices made myself

and excersising daily for almost one month...I'm not overweight, but I have

gained quite a bit of weight in the last year ever since taking cipro...

shefy

Dave Shelden <wholehealthawareness@...> wrote: , you constantly

have me close (but not there) to speechless. Where do you get this stuff? The

triggers for both the production of bile and the release of bile do not

originate from the large bowel due to what I assume you are trying to

describe-impaction. If so, the vast majority of Americans would have diarrhea

all the time. Bile does increase peristaltic action which can lead to diarrhea,

but not necessarily so.

Your description of diarrhea is just... that.

----- Original Message -----

From: Belskis<mailto:brian0017@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 1:29 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Preparing to flush for the first time

constipation is any form of blockage

when the intestines are clogged to the point that food can not be

absorbed to the blood stream through the intestinal walls the body

particularly your liver sends bile to the intestines to flush out the

intestines and remove the blockage. this is diarea

So diarea is a symptom of a constipation problem

constipation is any form of blockage were waste can not get out or

nutrients can not get in

[Guest guest]

the epsom salt has no nutricional value but is a good

detoxifying salt and laxative and it can be classified as a drug

the olive oil is very healthy , good for chlorestoral and is a

detoxifier it is an alkalyne

causing food. Olives are a natural food.

if you want to use bacon grease or crisco oil to flush out your liver I

do not reccomend it

Vince Richter wrote:

>

> >

> > Good luck, I'n not against detoxing but drinking epson salt and

> > straight oil can't be good for your system, that's why you get

> > diaria.

>

> Yes, of course. The diarrhea is intentional. It clears the path for

> the gallstones to travel out of the body faster. The epsoms and oil

> isn't meant to be " good for the system " . They are meant to flush

> gallstones without surgery and no harm to the body. This is very good

> for the system. Many intellegent level headed people have experienced

> real (not placebo) health benefits from flushing. You can too.

>

>

> >And there are no gallstones floating around in there. I had

> > diaria last week and there were little green pellets floating around

> > on top. It's gross but they were no gallstones and I don't believe

> > you are seeing gallstones just diaria chunks.

>

> Diarrhea doesn't have chunks, it is liquid by definition. It doesn't

> have green pellets either, unless it has gallstones in it. Gallstones

> are green and can be seen at the site's links in pictures. The same

> gallstones removed in gallbladders by surgery can easily be flushed

> out without surgery.

>

> >My opinion, and a

> > damn good one.

> >

>

> That's a matter of opinion. Where did you get your opinion? That's

> the question. The source of information from which you form your

> opinions must be reliable and tell the whole story. Believing only

> what you want to believe is not good enough. We've been told only

> part of the story at best, and lied to at worst. We must form our

> opinions only after looking at all the facts. That's where the

> internet comes in. People sharing what they've learned in forums not

> controlled by any popular ideology or big money interest. Keep

> looking at all the facts and you will be surprised....

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Vince

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Shefy,

Shefy,

You said you took cipro. That is one of the worst bowel offenders that

one could take. I would refrain from taking anymore antibiotics in the

future and promptly start taking a probiotic. Usually antibiotics

create diahrea, but it can cause constipation as well. A good probiotic

will balance the intestinal flora in the gut and you should see an

improvement.

G Murray

shefy gupta wrote:

>I'm not overweight, but I have gained quite a bit of weight in the last year

ever since taking cipro...

>

>shefy

>

>

>