Canola oil

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Hi

It doesen't look like anyone answered your question, so I will try. If you

mean can you substitue the properties of canola for olive. I don't think so

as you will get a much harder bar from olive. The conditioning properties

are about the same but I get them for about the same price and prefer the

olive. I just use reg. olive oil. You have to figure where this oil fits

in your recipe and what you want it to contribute to the bar.

HTH

Chris

Canola Oil

> Hello! Can I substitute canola oil for olive,totally or partially in

soap?

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Donna, you can substitute canola for some of your other low oliec-type oils, but

you certainly don't want a high percentage of it in your soaps. It can cause

your soaps to be very brittle. I don't think I'd use anymore than 25% and that's

pushing it. It does make for a nice hard bar though, but there's such a fine

line between soft and brittle with this oil.

Just my experience thus far, Donna. I'm sure others will have more to say.

G.

d4lacoste <d4lacoste@...> wrote: hi all,

I was wondering if anyone has ever tried canola oil in soap. Either with olive

oil or just the canola. I was thinking of trying it and just wondering if

anyone has already tried it.

thank you

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Hi Donna

I'm using canola. If you go by the oil's qualities at www.soapcalc.com,

its moisturizing ability is quite similar to olive oil. I've since used it

to replace a huge portion of my olive oil requirement and it works just

fine.

marcus

On 5/16/06, Gramling <brambleicedancer2004@...> wrote:

>

> Donna, you can substitute canola for some of your other low oliec-type

> oils, but you certainly don't want a high percentage of it in your soaps. It

> can cause your soaps to be very brittle. I don't think I'd use anymore than

> 25% and that's pushing it. It does make for a nice hard bar though, but

> there's such a fine line between soft and brittle with this oil.

>

> Just my experience thus far, Donna. I'm sure others will have more to say.

>

> G.

>

> d4lacoste <d4lacoste@...> wrote: hi all,

>

> I was wondering if anyone has ever tried canola oil in soap. Either with

> olive oil or just the canola. I was thinking of trying it and just

> wondering if anyone has already tried it.

>

> thank you

>

>

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Google Canola oil and see if you really want to use it, it was used during WWII

to oil machinery.

Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 4:08 AM

Subject: Re: canola oil

Hi Donna

I'm using canola. If you go by the oil's qualities at

www.soapcalc.com<http://www.soapcalc.com/>,

its moisturizing ability is quite similar to olive oil. I've since used it

to replace a huge portion of my olive oil requirement and it works just

fine.

marcus

On 5/16/06, Gramling

<brambleicedancer2004@...<mailto:brambleicedancer2004@...>> wrote:

>

> Donna, you can substitute canola for some of your other low oliec-type

> oils, but you certainly don't want a high percentage of it in your soaps. It

> can cause your soaps to be very brittle. I don't think I'd use anymore than

> 25% and that's pushing it. It does make for a nice hard bar though, but

> there's such a fine line between soft and brittle with this oil.

>

> Just my experience thus far, Donna. I'm sure others will have more to say.

>

> G.

>

> d4lacoste <d4lacoste@...> wrote: hi all,

>

> I was wondering if anyone has ever tried canola oil in soap. Either with

> olive oil or just the canola. I was thinking of trying it and just

> wondering if anyone has already tried it.

>

> thank you

>

>

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> rates.

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From Snopes.com: http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/canola.asp

Rapeseed oil naturally contains a high percentage (30-60%) of erucic acid, a substance associated with heart lesions in laboratory animals. For this reason rapeseed oil was not used for consumption in the United States prior to 1974, although it was used in other countries. (Americans chose to use it as a lubricant to maintain Allied naval and merchant ships during World War II.) In 1974, rapeseed varieties with a low erucic content were introduced. Scientists had found a way to replace almost all of rapeseed's erucic acid with oleic acid, a type of monounsaturated fatty acid. (This change was accomplished through the cross-breeding of plants, not by the techniques commonly referred to as "genetic engineering.") By 1978, all Canadian rapeseed produced for food use contained less than 2% erucic acid. The Canadian seed oil industry rechristened the product "canola oil" (Canadian oil) in 1978 in an attempt to distance the product from negative associations with the word "rape." Canola was introduced to American consumers in 1986. By 1990, erucic acid levels in canola oil ranged from 0.5% to 1.0%, in compliance with U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) standards. This light, tasteless oil's popularity is due to the structure of its fats. It is lower in saturated fat (about 6%) than any other oil. Compare this to the high saturated fat content of peanut oil (about 18%) and palm oil (at an incredibly high 79%). It also contains more cholesterol-balancing monounsaturated fat than any oil except olive oil and has the distinction of containing Omega-3 fatty acids, a polyunsaturated fat reputed to not only lower both cholesterol and triglycerides, but also to contribute to brain growth and development. In other words, it's a healthy oil. One shouldn't feel afraid to use it because of some Internet scare loosely based on half-truths and outright lies.

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Dr. Brownstein calls Canola Oil an "Unhealthy" oil along with soy, corn and cottonseed oil. He calls them processed oils.

Taken from The Guide to Healthy Eating pg 52

What is wrong with processed polyunsaturated (ie: vegetable oils) such as soy, corn, canola, cottonseed,etc?

Processed vegetable oils (ie, refined oils) are extremely abundant in today's diets and are the most common oils found at grocery stores. These oils are overused due to misinformation of their health qualities by the food industry as well as many health care providers. They contain high amounts of Omega-6 without balancing effects of Omega-3 and have been shown to depress the immune system over time. In addition, many of these oils (soybean, canola, corn and cottonseed) contain harmful free radicals due to the high heat and pressures of the refining process.

His suggestions for oils are: Butter, Coconut Oil (which I use), Extra Virgin Olive Oil, Ghee, Palm Oil, Peanut & Sesame Oils, Safflower and Sunflower (all are in a table with the appropriate time to use as they are heat related).

B.

From Snopes.com: http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/canola.asp

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The information you quotre is very misleading. Canola oil is cooked

to death and all beneficial aspects are removed. It contains no

vitamins. All the minerals have been removed.

Alobar

On 9/20/06, Ives <mives@...> wrote:

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> From Snopes.com: http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/canola.asp

[Guest guest]

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> Dr. Brownstein calls Canola Oil an " Unhealthy " oil along with soy,

corn and cottonseed oil. He calls them processed oils.

>

By the way, you can get unrefined canola oil.

For example:

http://www.florahealth.com/flora/home/usa/products/tgu6.asp#67910

> Taken from The Guide to Healthy Eating pg 52

>

> What is wrong with processed polyunsaturated (ie: vegetable oils)

such as soy, corn, canola, cottonseed,etc?

>

> Processed vegetable oils (ie, refined oils) are extremely abundant

in today's diets and are the most common oils found at grocery

stores. These oils are overused due to misinformation of their

health qualities by the food industry as well as many health care

providers. They contain high amounts of Omega-6 without balancing

effects of Omega-3 and have been shown to depress the immune system

over time. In addition, many of these oils (soybean, canola, corn and

cottonseed) contain harmful free radicals due to the high heat and

pressures of the refining process.

>

Omega-6's aren't all bad. But, I agree the ratio (in the entire

diet) is important. Page two of the following article discusses how

the various fatty acids affect cholesterol:

http://www.scientificpsychic.com/health/cholesterol.html

> His suggestions for oils are: Butter, Coconut Oil (which I use),

Extra Virgin Olive Oil, Ghee, Palm Oil,

These are all high in saturated fat.

> Peanut & Sesame Oils, Safflower and Sunflower (all are in a table

with the appropriate time to use as they are heat related).

These would seem to be better choices.

> From Snopes.com: http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/canola.asp

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I personally don't think saturated fats are bad. I don't use vegetable oils

at all. I only use lard, bacon fat and coconut oil. I especially use lots

of bacon fat for cooking. Not to mention, I eat lots of fatty meat. My

cholesterol is 181 last I checked. I don't remember my husbands but it is

under 200 as well and he eats an omlet everyday (cooked in bacon fat of

course.)

Now trans fats, that is another story. I stay away from those.

Irene

At 08:17 PM 9/20/2006, you wrote:

> > His suggestions for oils are: Butter, Coconut Oil (which I use),

>Extra Virgin Olive Oil, Ghee, Palm Oil,

>

>These are all high in saturated fat.

>

> > Peanut & Sesame Oils, Safflower and Sunflower (all are in a table

>with the appropriate time to use as they are heat related).

>

>These would seem to be better choices.

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This is from Mercola, written by Enig and probably the mildest info regarding canola that I've read.   Although canola oil is not a favorite oil with me for a number of reasons (none of which were listed in the article), the statement suggesting that because it is used as an industrial oil it is therefore not edible is not valid. Flax oil is also used as an industrial oil for paint and linoleum, etc. But when it is prepared as a food it is edible. Most oils have been used at one time or another as industrial products. One of the most edible of oils, coconut oil, is used for many industrial products, especially for soaps and cosmetics.Olive oil apparently has been used to make soap for as long as it has been used as a food oil. Perhaps the most blatant error and comparison made by Mr. Lynn, though, is that regarding canola oil and mustard gas, which chemically has absolutely no relationship to mustard oil or any other mustard plant. Mustard gas is 2,2'-dichlorodiethyl sulfide and its preparation using ethylene and sulfur chloride is given in the Merck Index. It received its name because of the yellowish color of the gas and the sulfur odor.Canola and regular rapeseed oils are extracted from the seeds of several of the brassica plants - the same family of plants from which we get vegetables such as Brussels sprouts, broccoli, cabbage, kale, mustard greens, and several other vegetables.Of course, there is not much fat in these vegetables; but what fat there is in some of them, e.g., mustard greens, is as much as 29 percent erucic acid. Also, since glycosides (typical are stevioside and other flavonoids) are basically water soluble, I would not expect to find much of them in any oil. Those glucosinolates found in rapeseed meal after the oil has removed from the seeds are the same goiterogens that are found in the brassica vegetables. One problem with canola oil is that it has to be partially hydrogenated or refined before it is used commercially and consequently is a source of trans fatty acids; sometimes are very high levels.Another problem is that it is too unsaturated to be used exclusively in the diet; some of the undesirable effects caused by feeding canola can be rectified if the diet is made higher in saturated fatty acids. G. Enig, Ph.D., Director Nutritional Sciences Division Enig Associates, Inc.LinnOn Sep 20, 2006, at 8:36 PM, Ives wrote:From Snopes.com:  http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/canola.asp Rapeseed oil naturally contains a high percentage (30-60%) of erucic acid, a substance associated with heart lesions in laboratory animals. For this reason rapeseed oil was not used for consumption in the United States prior to 1974, although it was used in other countries. (Americans chose to use it as a lubricant to maintain Allied naval and merchant ships during World War II.) . 

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I only use butter and olive oil. Except I do have canola oil here for times when I need to make brownies or something like that.

I'm not sure if Linsey recommends the Canola for humans or not. She does, however, recommend it for horses.

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His suggestions for oils are: Butter, Coconut Oil (which I use), Extra Virgin Olive Oil, Ghee, Palm Oil, Peanut & Sesame Oils, Safflower and Sunflower (all are in a table with the appropriate time to use as they are heat related).

[Guest guest]

I wouldn't eat bacon fat because of the nitrites and nitrates presnt in

bacon (unless of course this is organic bacon, without all the crap, and the

antibiotics and other chemicals that would be stored in the animals fat).

Best,

Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com

Curly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com

~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then

you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~

~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for the

purpose of storing dead batteries.~

> I personally don't think saturated fats are bad. I don't use vegetable

oils

> at all. I only use lard, bacon fat and coconut oil. I especially use lots

> of bacon fat for cooking. Not to mention, I eat lots of fatty meat. My

> cholesterol is 181 last I checked. I don't remember my husbands but it is

> under 200 as well and he eats an omlet everyday (cooked in bacon fat of

> course.)

[Guest guest]

I have sent Linsey an email for clarification why she uses Canola. As I

mentioned previously, she uses it for a specific reason, a constituent

called DIM.

I'm certainly not telling everyone here to switch to Canola. This thread

certainly got out of hand!

Best,

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Curly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com

~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then

you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~

~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for the

purpose of storing dead batteries.~

> The information you quotre is very misleading. Canola oil is cooked

> to death and all beneficial aspects are removed. It contains no

> vitamins. All the minerals have been removed.

>

[Guest guest]

If you are looking for a good oil for

baking try coconut oil. It bakes fabulous! And it is so much better than

canola oil.

Allyn

From: iodine

[mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of

Ives

Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006

7:38 AM

iodine

Subject: Re: Canola oil

I only use butter and olive oil. Except I do

have canola oil here for times when I need to make brownies or something like

that.

I'm not sure if Linsey recommends the Canola

for humans or not. She does, however, recommend it for horses.

Best,

Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com

Curly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com

~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then

you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~

~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for the

purpose of storing dead batteries.~

His suggestions for oils are: Butter,

Coconut Oil (which I use), Extra Virgin Olive Oil, Ghee, Palm Oil, Peanut &

Sesame Oils, Safflower and Sunflower (all are in a table with the

appropriate time to use as they are heat related).

[Guest guest]

do you melt it first to use it?

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~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for thepurpose of storing dead batteries.~

If you are looking for a good oil for baking try coconut oil. It bakes fabulous! And it is so much better than canola oil.

Allyn

[Guest guest]

Sometimes, depending on the recipe. I put

it in a small glass bowl and put it on the stove. It melts at 76 degrees so

sometimes it is already melted. I don’t think it matters though unless it

is easier to measure.

Allyn

From:

iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Ives

Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006

11:55 AM

iodine

Subject: Re: Canola oil

do you melt it first to use it?

Best,

Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com

Curly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com

~If you can stay calm,

while all around you is chaos...then

you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~

~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for the

purpose of storing dead batteries.~

If you are looking for a good oil for baking try coconut oil.

It bakes fabulous! And it is so much better than canola oil.

Allyn

[Guest guest]

Saturated fats are good for you. Heated vegetable oils are very bad for you.

All things in moderation, except heated veg oils.

jane