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agreed george. lifestyle change and journey it is. the only time i

get into trouble is when i forget and mindlessly eat --- a little

slime warns me from further mindlessness. i just feel though that i

need to give myself some slack, remind myself that yes, i am human,

and sometimes slip up and just keep going!!!

At 07:56 AM 12/13/2007, you wrote:

>Diane,

>

>i'm a proponent of not denying yourself things you like to eat,

>providing they aren't unfriendly to your band and that you won't lose

>control over them.

>

>this is the first time i've ever lost weight and not been on a diet.

>

>so i eat everything that i feel is safe, but listen to my soft

>signs. sometimes, i catch myself mindlessly putting something in my

>mouth. i almost always catch myself and out it goes.

>

>without beating a dead horse, this journey represents a lifestyle

>change . it isn't a diet. and it requires constant vigilance (at

>least for me, it does)

>

>george

>

> > >Dont feel like you are alone, I had a fill early in Nov and did

> > >great. Lost really well, now I too am eating too many empty

> > >calories and strugling to get back on track. I know I can do it,

>I

> > >need to stop making holiday cookies and eating them. Cant wait

>for

> > >the holidays (food) to be over.

> > >Sherry s

> > >

> > > not looseing weight

> > >

> > >

> > > > Hi this is Lynda, went to dr, band is ok, I guess its me, over

> > > > eating,

> > > > too many empty calories ging in. I guess I need to take a good

> > > > look at

> > > > my self and my eating habits. Thanks for all the kind words and

> > > > support.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Hello george,

Thursday, December 13, 2007, 5:51:39 AM, you wrote:

> i'm going again on a new year's bridge cruise to the caribean. i'm

> really looking forward to it for a variety of reasons. but one

> really good one is that when i'm away from home, i always lose weight

> (since banding) because evening snack accessibility is dramatically

> reduced. i think if i religiously stopped eating anything after 8

I also lost on a cruise, held even on another. But as to reassons, I

don't get it, as the food is available 24/7, and most of it pretty

darn tempting.

As to bridge cruises, tell me more (private email may be better). We

always play bridge when we cruise, and there is sometimes a

director/organizer/life master to lead it all. Is this a serious one

with master points, all duplicate, etc? We've not been playing

duplicate due to lack of time....feeling that you've either got to do

it or not.

--

Best regards,

Dan mailto:honu@...

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Hello george,

Thursday, December 13, 2007, 6:02:39 AM, you wrote:

> the cat box receptical is hilarious. LOL

Only reason I've not done it is because I don't have a cat (thank

goodness), though have lived with large numbers of them in the past.

Just one little obese dog. She's on a diet and SHE'S PISSED. She's

also turned into a beggar and a nag about food. Maybe I can get her a

doggie band......But at 17 pounds the doc says she needs to get down

to 12 pounds.

In past I've also tried things like taking the remainders of the evil

bag of potato chips and smashing them all into dust (inside the bag,

sort of like the way you'd break up crackers), or pouring coffee

grounds on various food items in the trash, etc. Hey, whatever it

takes. Like all other things, there's no one right way.

--

Best regards,

Dan mailto:honu@...

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-they do have food available almost non-stop. however, the things

they offer after or between mealtimes is so blatantly not what i

should be eating that its not hard to resist. it really is a lot of

crap. (didn't used to think so, but my standards seem to have

changed since banding)

last year on this ship, there was an evening sushi bar. i would stop

there at the end of the day and have a bowl or two of miso and take

some Ginger to my room (its supposed to be a good remedy for

seasickness) . for later munchies, i pick up a few of those tiny

peanut butter packs in the am at breakfast. they contain less than a

tablespoon of PB. if i'm desperate, one of those will quell the

demons. (or two or three).

the best part of this ship was that the huge " metal monster " in the

gym was under by twelve pounds. was it ever a shot of confidence

getting on that scale. i tried to jam it into my luggage. no way.

but it was a delight to step on it. LOL.

george

-- In , Diane <dsb135711@...> wrote:

>

> george, have a wonderful time on the cruise...i thought cruises had

> 24 hour food!!!

> and please, dont disappear!!!!

>

> At 07:51 AM 12/13/2007, you wrote:

>

>

>

>

> >i'm going again on a new year's bridge cruise to the caribean. i'm

> >really looking forward to it for a variety of reasons. but one

> >really good one is that when i'm away from home, i always lose

weight

> >(since banding) because evening snack accessibility is dramatically

> >reduced. i think if i religiously stopped eating anything after 8

> >pm. i'd eventually disappear. (which i guess i'm going to do

anyway,

> >but hopefully not for a long time. LOL)

> >

> >---

>

> Diane B

>

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diane,

when you get to an optimum fill level (actually, i should speak for

myself and not generalize, oops) i have found that i can't really

slip on the good stuff. my band simply won't allow it. so what's

left is the bad stuff. and it is this that we must approach in

moderation OR not at all. however, given that we're human and the

will is strong but the flesh is sometimes weak, we must continue to

be vigilant and to remember that this minute we're in right now is

the beginning of the rest, so a bad mistake can be rectified by good

behavior from now on.

one thing that keeps me going is the response i get from virtually

everyone. yesterday at my club, a woman i have known for a pretty

long time and never really liked told me i looked wonderful. she is

now my " new best friend " . LOL I must admit, i can't resist these

remarks. And i have several pictures at my club of how i looked two

years ago. (when fishing for compliments, one must realize how

others' memories may not be too accurate. so keeping a before

picture available to remind them is handy. ok, i admit it, i'm a

compliment prostitute. so sue me!!)

this is truly a wonderful journey.

george

> >Diane,

> >

> >i'm a proponent of not denying yourself things you like to eat,

> >providing they aren't unfriendly to your band and that you won't

lose

> >control over them.

>//

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Dan,

at my bridge club, i serve a lite lunch (i must admit the players are

vultures. LOL) which requires the preparation of salads and lots of

confection and chips and candy etc. while preparing the salads i

have a waste can handy. i taste them to ensure the quality, and then

out it all goes into the can.

george

>

> > the cat box receptical is hilarious. LOL

>

> Only reason I've not done it is because I don't have a cat (thank

> goodness), though have lived with large numbers of them in the past.

> Just one little obese dog. She's on a diet and SHE'S PISSED. She's

> also turned into a beggar and a nag about food. Maybe I can get

her a

> doggie band......But at 17 pounds the doc says she needs to get down

> to 12 pounds.

>

> In past I've also tried things like taking the remainders of the

evil

> bag of potato chips and smashing them all into dust (inside the bag,

> sort of like the way you'd break up crackers), or pouring coffee

> grounds on various food items in the trash, etc. Hey, whatever it

> takes. Like all other things, there's no one right way.

>

>

> --

> Best regards,

> Dan mailto:honu@...

>

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-ROFLOL

george-- In , Dan Lester <honu@...>

wrote:

>

> Hello Diane,

>

> Thursday, December 13, 2007, 6:16:51 AM, you wrote:

>

> > oh george, they are so yummy --- and i have heard that they can be

> > very seductive...........

>

> I'm sure some sex therapists are....but the only one I have lives with

> me full time....and, yes, she is....

>

> --

> Best regards,

> Dan mailto:honu@...

>

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i think george then that i am not at an optimal fill level yet. am

going on monday for my appointment and am bringing the printouts from

sandy!! for my reference if nothing else. i find that my restriction

is not consistent and while i know that we have discussed that in the

past, i find that i do not have to take pea sized bites, but i still

have to chew chew chew. i also find now that i can stop when i feel

the band telling me to, but sometimes do get a gentle slimy reminder,

but no pb anymore.

i havent weighed myself (because i did for a while at my health club

and didnt like it) so i will see on monday.

when are you leaving for the cruise?

At 08:42 AM 12/14/2007, you wrote:

>diane,

>

>when you get to an optimum fill level (actually, i should speak for

>myself and not generalize, oops) i have found that i can't really

>slip on the good stuff. my band simply won't allow it. so what's

>left is the bad stuff. and it is this that we must approach in

>moderation OR not at all. however, given that we're human and the

>will is strong but the flesh is sometimes weak, we must continue to

>be vigilant and to remember that this minute we're in right now is

>the beginning of the rest, so a bad mistake can be rectified by good

>behavior from now on.

>

>one thing that keeps me going is the response i get from virtually

>everyone. yesterday at my club, a woman i have known for a pretty

>long time and never really liked told me i looked wonderful. she is

>now my " new best friend " . LOL I must admit, i can't resist these

>remarks. And i have several pictures at my club of how i looked two

>years ago. (when fishing for compliments, one must realize how

>others' memories may not be too accurate. so keeping a before

>picture available to remind them is handy. ok, i admit it, i'm a

>compliment prostitute. so sue me!!)

>

>this is truly a wonderful journey.

>

>george

>

>

> > >Diane,

> > >

> > >i'm a proponent of not denying yourself things you like to eat,

> > >providing they aren't unfriendly to your band and that you won't

>lose

> > >control over them.

> >//

>

>

>

>

>

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Hello george,

Friday, December 14, 2007, 6:42:15 AM, you wrote:

> one thing that keeps me going is the response i get from virtually

> everyone. yesterday at my club, a woman i have known for a pretty

> long time and never really liked told me i looked wonderful. she is

> now my " new best friend " . LOL I must admit, i can't resist these

> remarks. And i have several pictures at my club of how i looked two

> years ago. (when fishing for compliments, one must realize how

> others' memories may not be too accurate. so keeping a before

> picture available to remind them is handy. ok, i admit it, i'm a

> compliment prostitute. so sue me!!)

That is very cool. hey, new best friends isn't all bad, are they?

sometimes they become VERY good friends.

Can you remind my senile old brain your age, starting weight, and goal

weight and current weight? If you don't mind, of course.

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Dan mailto:honu@...

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hi dan,

i'm 63, your honor. and i swear, i didn't want to eat that krispy

cream. honest!!!!

290 start, 187 finish. goal not much lower. i've been happy with

where i am for the last year. i could go lower as i did when i was

much younger, but gravity has redistributed everything to my liking.

and what gravity pulled down too low, i had lifted. LOL

george

>

> > one thing that keeps me going is the response i get from

virtually

> > everyone. yesterday at my club, a woman i have known for a

pretty

> > long time and never really liked told me i looked wonderful. she

is

> > now my " new best friend " . LOL I must admit, i can't resist

these

> > remarks. And i have several pictures at my club of how i looked

two

> > years ago. (when fishing for compliments, one must realize how

> > others' memories may not be too accurate. so keeping a before

> > picture available to remind them is handy. ok, i admit it, i'm a

> > compliment prostitute. so sue me!!)

>

> That is very cool. hey, new best friends isn't all bad, are they?

> sometimes they become VERY good friends.

>

> Can you remind my senile old brain your age, starting weight, and

goal

> weight and current weight? If you don't mind, of course.

>

> --

> Best regards,

> Dan mailto:honu@...

>

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