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I havent done either yet, but sure would like a much

less expensive place to buy Lugol's than JCrews.

--- loboshe <doodlebug1@...> wrote:

> Has anyone here done a round of Lugols......and the

> a round of

> Iodoral...and did you notice any difference??

>

> I did Lugols for several months, painting 2-3 drops

> per breast,

> totally 4-6 drops daily. Had a breakout on my face,

> but noticed

> nothing else negative.

>

> Started Iodoral (one 12 1/2 mg tablet daily) three

> weeks after I ended

> Lugols (bottle got lost in the mail and had to have

> another one sent),

> and had the breakout on the face again, but also now

> have much

> sleepiness in the early evening....and a back

> headache if I move my

> head too suddenly.

>

> Janie

>

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Janie -

if you didn't seem to have any trouble with the lugol's why change to

iodoral? My guess would be toxins - are you drinking enough water to

flush your body properly? I know you like to drink watered down juice

a lot thru the day - but how about some good old fashioned water? You

also need to add some Vit C, probiotics (live yogurt) to help your

body handle the toxic dumping.

The other thing you might want to consider is bromism - your body is

dumping bromide as a result of the high dose of iodine. Bromism can

be seen in lethargy, acne, rashes amongst other things. You can stop

this by stopping the iodine for 48 hours & then resting for a while

(maybe a week?) and then restart at a lower dose so as to not induce

the bromism again.

my .02c!

K

>

> Has anyone here done a round of Lugols......and the a round of

> Iodoral...and did you notice any difference??

>

> I did Lugols for several months, painting 2-3 drops per breast,

> totally 4-6 drops daily. Had a breakout on my face, but noticed

> nothing else negative.

>

> Started Iodoral (one 12 1/2 mg tablet daily) three weeks after I ended

> Lugols (bottle got lost in the mail and had to have another one sent),

> and had the breakout on the face again, but also now have much

> sleepiness in the early evening....and a back headache if I move my

> head too suddenly.

>

> Janie

>

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It's $9.95/ounce at jcrow.

If you buy the 16 oz bottle it comes down to just $3.44/ounce. That

will last you a L-O-N-G time!!

K

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> www.naturodoc.com has it for 20.00 a bottle.

>

>

>

> but sure would like a much

> > less expensive place to buy Lugol's than JCrews.

> >

> >

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> om

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Janie, it is hard to compare painting Lugols with oral Iodoral.

Painting on any iodine results in about 90% evaporating. So you may

want to factor that in.

Best wishes,

Sharon

> Has anyone here done a round of Lugols......and the a round of

> Iodoral...and did you notice any difference??

>

> I did Lugols for several months, painting 2-3 drops per breast,

> totally 4-6 drops daily. Had a breakout on my face, but noticed

> nothing else negative.

>

> Started Iodoral (one 12 1/2 mg tablet daily) three weeks after I

ended

> Lugols (bottle got lost in the mail and had to have another one

sent),

> and had the breakout on the face again, but also now have much

> sleepiness in the early evening....and a back headache if I move my

> head too suddenly.

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Here is another place to get Lugol's and it's on sale right now for a

2 oz. size:

http://bloodroot.stores..net/lugolsiodine.html

Dianne

>

> Thats just for 1 oz, $20.00.

>

> Here is one for 16oz for $21.71.

> http://www.sciencestuff.com/prod/Chem-Rgnts/C1924

>

>

> Heres another source, called Kent marine lugol's solution. Its Msds

sheet

> looks like just lugol's solution.

>

> http://www.medexsupply.com/products/pid-

18/IodineLugolsPrepSolution16oz.htm

>

> Joe

>

>

> > www.naturodoc.com has it for 20.00 a bottle.

> >

> >

> >

> > but sure would like a much

> > > less expensive place to buy Lugol's than JCrews.

>

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K, I changed because I was doing Lugol's topically and it's very

messy. Perhaps I should have simply put drops in orange juice as I saw

some of you do. lol. And I was curious about Iodoral.

Your point about drinking enough is good, which I haven't done this

past week due to being out of town, then a visit by my son. I already

eat yogurt daily, and am returning to having at least 4000 mgs of Vit.

C a day today. My last Vit. C drink was a week ago! lol.

I did take 48 hours off, and yesterday, took half a tablet....and had

excessive sleepiness last night, besides the achiness and headache.

Grrr. I guess I'll have to stop it for several days.

Janie

> Janie -

> if you didn't seem to have any trouble with the lugol's why change to

> iodoral? My guess would be toxins - are you drinking enough water to

> flush your body properly? I know you like to drink watered down juice

> a lot thru the day - but how about some good old fashioned water? You

> also need to add some Vit C, probiotics (live yogurt) to help your

> body handle the toxic dumping.

> The other thing you might want to consider is bromism - your body is

> dumping bromide as a result of the high dose of iodine. Bromism can

> be seen in lethargy, acne, rashes amongst other things. You can stop

> this by stopping the iodine for 48 hours & then resting for a while

> (maybe a week?) and then restart at a lower dose so as to not induce

> the bromism again.

> my .02c!

> K

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King's Song, I rubbed it in. Used a small baggie on my fingers to

prevent the stain on the fingers. I should have switched to oral.

This swallowing of Iodoral has been the pits for me. Janie

> Do you not take the Lugol's orally?

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Abbe, I do know that applying Lugols topically produced the same

effect that taking Iodoral orally produced--the breakout on my cheeks.

So from that, it was working. But with Iodoral, you now have to add

excess sleepiness, achiness and a headache behind my ears. Sheesh.

From posts so far, I know I need to return to drinking my watered down

orange juice with 4000-5000 mgs Vit. C--haven't done it in a week due

to being out of town and having my son visit. My plan right now is to

totally stop the Iodoral again for several more days..then resume on 6

mgs for awhile......and slowly make my way up to a full tablet.

Gracia, I know you say I should go right up to 50 mgs, but that just

plain scares me to death--lol--when you consider that 12.5 has done

this to me.

Janie

>

> Is it possible that with the Lugols you were not

> getting as much of a dose since there appears to be

> some reason to question whether liquid iodine retains

> its potency? If that is the case switching to Iodoral

> would certainly make a difference.

>

> Abbe

>

> --- emugirls <emugirls@...> wrote:

>

> > Janie -

> > if you didn't seem to have any trouble with the

> > lugol's why change to

> > iodoral? My guess would be toxins - are you

> > drinking enough water to

> > flush your body properly? I know you like to drink

> > watered down juice

> > a lot thru the day - but how about some good old

> > fashioned water? You

> > also need to add some Vit C, probiotics (live

> > yogurt) to help your

> > body handle the toxic dumping.

> > The other thing you might want to consider is

> > bromism - your body is

> > dumping bromide as a result of the high dose of

> > iodine. Bromism can

> > be seen in lethargy, acne, rashes amongst other

> > things. You can stop

> > this by stopping the iodine for 48 hours & then

> > resting for a while

> > (maybe a week?) and then restart at a lower dose so

> > as to not induce

> > the bromism again.

> > my .02c!

> > K

> >

> > >

> > > Has anyone here done a round of Lugols......and

> > the a round of

> > > Iodoral...and did you notice any difference??

> > >

> > > I did Lugols for several months, painting 2-3

> > drops per breast,

> > > totally 4-6 drops daily. Had a breakout on my

> > face, but noticed

> > > nothing else negative.

> > >

> > > Started Iodoral (one 12 1/2 mg tablet daily) three

> > weeks after I ended

> > > Lugols (bottle got lost in the mail and had to

> > have another one sent),

> > > and had the breakout on the face again, but also

> > now have much

> > > sleepiness in the early evening....and a back

> > headache if I move my

> > > head too suddenly.

> > >

> > > Janie

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Are the breakouts that I've seen folks mention not related to

toxicity? kelp acne?

http://www.healthatoz.com/healthatoz/Atoz/ency/mineral_toxicity.jsp

Iodine toxicity can result from an intake of 2.0 mg of iodide per

day. The toxicity results in impairment of the creation of thyroid

hormone, resulting in lower levels of thyroid hormone in the

bloodstream. The thyroid gland enlarges, as a consequence, and

goiter is produced. This enlargement is also called hyperthyroidism.

Goiter is usually caused by iodine deficiency.

In addition to goiter, iodine toxicity produces ulcers on the skin.

This condition has been called " kelp acne, " because of its

association with eating kelp, an ocean plant, which contains high

levels of iodine. Iodine toxicity occurs in Japan, where large

amounts of seaweed are consumed.

cindi

>

> Abbe, I do know that applying Lugols topically produced the same

> effect that taking Iodoral orally produced--the breakout on my

cheeks.

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Jackie, no I haven't tried any of their other products yet. I found

their site while searching yesterday and ordered the Lugol's myself.

They have another site too which has a lot of other information.

http://www.risingsunhealth.com/

Dianne

>

> > Here is another place to get Lugol's and it's on sale right now

for a

> > 2 oz. size:

> >

> > http://bloodroot.stores..net/lugolsiodine.html

> >

> > Dianne

> >

> > .

> >

> >

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Hi, newbie here. Thanks for the reminder! I just ordered it from this

site. I couldn't figure out why I didn't have a confirming email from

my internet order for Lugol's....I had to CALL them, duh. Their site

doesn't let you order directly online. And I couldn't remember the

name of the site. Can you say " hypo brain fog " ? :)

But they took my order with no problem over the phone. Nice people.

Some of the other sites require that you have a " school " affiliation

to order it in this quantity. This one didn't.

My MIL has Dupuytren's Contracture in one hand. The Lugol's/iodine is

also supposed to help with softening the cartilage. Figured it was

worth the shot, since I also wanted to try some for my hypo symptoms.

I'm waiting for the results of my iodine-loading test. I mailed the

test back Friday.

In my first skin patch iodine test that I did, the iodine was sucked

up in just 6 hours. Hmmm....

I have an appointment with my NP in another 10 days, but I might bump

that up so I have the iodine test results in hand when I go.

Has anyone discussed possible iodine deficiency/hypoT with their NP?

Were they up on it? How did it go?

Thanks,

> Here is one for 16oz for $21.71.

> http://www.sciencestuff.com/prod/Chem-Rgnts/C1924

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Yes, I just ordered from ScienceStuff around 10/4. Iodine is not

considered a hazardous chemical for their shipping purposes. You have

to call them to order it though. The site doesn't take web orders for

iodine. If you click on the " Order " button on the Lugol's page, their

phone number will display. Customer service was very nice.

>

> Sciencestruff has a good price, but will they sell Lugol's to

> individuals? On their website, it says: " Hazardous chemicals will

> be shipped to Schools and Laboratories only! "

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Gracia, the cause-and-effect mechanisms of " too low Armour " is quite

different from " low amounts of iodine " . Taking " too little Armour "

produces a feel-bad situation from the Pituitary's TSH telling an

already-diseased thyroid to cut it's production even further. There is

no feedback-loop-result from low dose iodine that would be corrected

by taking more iodine. If a particular amount of iodine causes me to

have the particular toxin-release symptoms I'm having, I shudder to

think what taking more Iodoral would do to me. lol. Of course, if

someone can come up with a logical biological reason why taking more

Iodoral would be good, in light of what 12 1/2 has done, I'm

listening. Janie

>

> how would you feel if you took too little Armour? Would you

blame the Armour?

> Gracia

>

> I did take 48 hours off, and yesterday, took half a tablet....and had

> excessive sleepiness last night, besides the achiness and headache.

> Grrr. I guess I'll have to stop it for several days.

>

> Janie

>

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Gracia, the cause-and-effect mechanisms of " too low Armour " is quite

different from " low amounts of iodine " . Taking " too little Armour "

produces a feel-bad situation from the Pituitary's TSH telling an

already-diseased thyroid to cut it's production even further. There is

no feedback-loop-result from low dose iodine that would be corrected

by taking more iodine. If a particular amount of iodine causes me to

have the particular toxin-release symptoms I'm having, I shudder to

think what taking more Iodoral would do to me. lol. Of course, if

someone can come up with a logical biological reason why taking more

Iodoral would be good, in light of what 12 1/2 has done, I'm

listening. Janie

>

> how would you feel if you took too little Armour? Would you

blame the Armour?

> Gracia

>

> I did take 48 hours off, and yesterday, took half a tablet....and had

> excessive sleepiness last night, besides the achiness and headache.

> Grrr. I guess I'll have to stop it for several days.

>

> Janie

>

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