Guest guest Posted July 25, 2006 Report Posted July 25, 2006 I think a good supply of essential fatty acids do wonders to protect skin. Probably all supplements that affect skin health will also help keep the cell division in check. Coconut oil would also be good. My doctor overcame metastasized melanoma through proper nutrition and if I remember what she told me, it was a complete program that paid attention to detoxifying, supplementing ALL essential vitamins, minerals, aminos etc. I use the coconut oil and it really does have a big impact on the quality of your skin. Personally, I believe the increase in skin cancers is a result of our bodies not having these essential nutrients that allow the cells to function "normally" and as a result, get sloppy and go haywire. (iodine included!) Karin -----Original Message-----From: iodine [mailto:iodine ]On Behalf Of Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 3:11 PMiodine Subject: Skin cancer question. My friend is covered with moles. He is urged by his dermatologist to comeevery 6 months for a search of his body for cancerous moles. One precancerousmole was found and a fairly big divot was taken out of his back with it'sremoval and now that scar is showing a little color in the center and he hasbeen sent to a plastic surgeon to remove more. In the mean time a anothersuspect mole was cut out and proved to be non-cancerous. I have a feeling he is going to be full of scars in 10 years. Should I urgehim to start iodine? He is from Michigan but has no thyroid issues and I wouldhate to be responsible for starting them in him. Will Iodine help? Any othersuggestions to help stop this progression?__________________________________________________ Quote
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2006 Report Posted July 25, 2006 Karin, I would add two things to your comment. 1. Stop all refined sugar and flour, and 2. Increase your supplementation of Selenium to approximately 1 mg per day. There was an excellent article on selenium and cancer in the latest issue of the Well Being Journal which you can probably download from there website archives. Rick Wagner -----Original Message-----From: Karin Deutschler [mailto:kdeutschler@...]Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 12:30 PMiodine Subject: RE: Skin cancer question. I think a good supply of essential fatty acids do wonders to protect skin. Probably all supplements that affect skin health will also help keep the cell division in check. Coconut oil would also be good. My doctor overcame metastasized melanoma through proper nutrition and if I remember what she told me, it was a complete program that paid attention to detoxifying, supplementing ALL essential vitamins, minerals, aminos etc. I use the coconut oil and it really does have a big impact on the quality of your skin. Personally, I believe the increase in skin cancers is a result of our bodies not having these essential nutrients that allow the cells to function "normally" and as a result, get sloppy and go haywire. (iodine included!) Karin -----Original Message-----From: iodine [mailto:iodine ]On Behalf Of Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 3:11 PMiodine Subject: Skin cancer question. My friend is covered with moles. He is urged by his dermatologist to comeevery 6 months for a search of his body for cancerous moles. One precancerousmole was found and a fairly big divot was taken out of his back with it'sremoval and now that scar is showing a little color in the center and he hasbeen sent to a plastic surgeon to remove more. In the mean time a anothersuspect mole was cut out and proved to be non-cancerous. I have a feeling he is going to be full of scars in 10 years. Should I urgehim to start iodine? He is from Michigan but has no thyroid issues and I wouldhate to be responsible for starting them in him. Will Iodine help? Any othersuggestions to help stop this progression?__________________________________________________ Quote
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2006 Report Posted July 25, 2006 Unfortunately the surgical removal of the tumors has set the stage for the development of internal systemic cancers. Had the tumors been removed chemically with escharotics, the disease, which was localized in the skin as surface tumors that initially are only localized, became systemic due to the surgery. Dr. Nichols ran a very successful cancer clinic in Savannah Missouri that operated from 1918 to 1956 and treated over 70,000 patients. Dr. Nichols along with Harry Hoxsey were staunch opponents that criticized the established medical community for their surgical techniques that always ended in disaster. This holds true today. Doctors who remove surface cancers by surgery are unknowingly sealing the fate of their patients by cutting out the tumors. At one time, pioneer oncologists were highly critical of the surgical approach. Dr. Eli G. , a very famous American oncologist, who claimed that he cured over 80% of his cancer patiients, proclaimed that surgical extripation of cancer tumors was tatamount to an assault on the patient that should be criminally prosecutable. Dr. Eli G. (1850-1933), in his c.1915 book 'Cancer, its Causes, Symptoms, and Treatment' states: “While sticking to the old theory that cancer is a local disease and depending upon surgical operations to cure it, the regular profession have not cured the malady. It is not about time that we should abandon the theory of the fathers and do some thinking for ourselves? The men in this country who have treated this disease successfully have treated it as a constitutional or blood disease. From my own experience of forty years in the study and medical treatment of cancer in all its forms, I am convinced that that it is the local manifestation of a blood disease.” Elsewhere he states: “As long as the regular school stick to that old chestnut that cancer is a local disease they will never find a cure for cancer. Meanwhile I am curing eighty percent of my cases of cancer by treating it as the local manifestation of a constitutional disease, as I was taught to do forty-five years ago.” -- Skin cancer question. My friend is covered with moles. He is urged by his dermatologist to comeevery 6 months for a search of his body for cancerous moles. One precancerousmole was found and a fairly big divot was taken out of his back with it'sremoval and now that scar is showing a little color in the center and he hasbeen sent to a plastic surgeon to remove more. In the mean time a anothersuspect mole was cut out and proved to be non-cancerous. I have a feeling he is going to be full of scars in 10 years. Should I urgehim to start iodine? He is from Michigan but has no thyroid issues and I wouldhate to be responsible for starting them in him. Will Iodine help? Any othersuggestions to help stop this progression?__________________________________________________ Quote
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Posted July 26, 2006 Quackwatch.org had some scary things to say about escharotics. http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/eschar.html On Jul 25, 2006, at 8:34 PM, comdyne@... wrote: > Unfortunately the surgical removal of the tumors has set the stage for > the development of internal systemic cancers. Had the tumors > been removed chemically with escharotics, the disease, which was > localized in the skin as surface tumors that initially are only > localized, became systemic due to the surgery. Dr. Nichols ran a > very successful cancer clinic in Savannah Missouri that operated from > 1918 to 1956 and treated over 70,000 patients. Dr. Nichols along with > Harry Hoxsey were staunch opponents that criticized the established > medical community for their surgical techniques that always ended in > disaster. This holds true today. Doctors who remove surface cancers by > surgery are unknowingly sealing the fate of their patients by cutting > out the tumors. At one time, pioneer oncologists were highly critical > of the surgical approach. Dr. Eli G. , a very famous American > oncologist, who claimed that he cured over 80% of his cancer > patiients, proclaimed that surgical extripation of cancer tumors was > tatamount to an assault on the patient that should be criminally > prosecutable. >  > Dr. Eli G. (1850-1933), in his c.1915 book 'Cancer, its Causes, > Symptoms, and Treatment' states: “While sticking to the old theory > that cancer is a local disease and depending upon surgical operations > to cure it, the regular profession have not cured the malady. It is > not about time that we should abandon the theory of the fathers and do > some thinking for ourselves? The men in this country who have treated > this disease successfully have treated it as a constitutional or blood > disease. From my own experience of forty years in the study and > medical treatment of cancer in all its forms, I am convinced that that > it is the local manifestation of a blood disease.†Elsewhere he > states: “As long as the regular school stick to that old chestnut that > cancer is a local disease they will never find a cure for cancer. > Meanwhile I am curing eighty percent of my cases of cancer by treating > it as the local manifestation of a constitutional disease, as I was > taught to do forty-five years ago.†>  > -- Skin cancer question. >  > > My friend is covered with moles. He is urged by his dermatologist to > come > every 6 months for a search of his body for cancerous moles. One > precancerous > mole was found and a fairly big divot was taken out of his back with > it's > removal and now that scar is showing a little color in the center and > he has > been sent to a plastic surgeon to remove more. In the mean time a > another > suspect mole was cut out and proved to be non-cancerous. > > I have a feeling he is going to be full of scars in 10 years. Should I > urge > him to start iodine? He is from Michigan but has no thyroid issues and > I would > hate to be responsible for starting them in him. Will Iodine help? Any > other > suggestions to help stop this progression? > > __________________________________________________ > Quote
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Posted July 26, 2006 Barrett? Are you kidding? This guy is a beacon for alternative treatments. The harder he criticizes some method, the better it is likely to be. Dr. Barrett is not licensed to practice medicine and has been in trouble with the medical boards for years. He sounds credible until you peel away the shroud. Escharotics have a long history of safe usage. Of course there can be problems with using them but keep things in perspective. Just how safe are the approved treatments? It has been well-documented that chemo is useless against epithelial cancers which represents about 90% of all cancers. They administer the chemicals knowing full that they don't work for people with these types of cancers. -- Skin cancer question. > ? > > My friend is covered with moles. He is urged by his dermatologist to > come > every 6 months for a search of his body for cancerous moles. One > precancerous > mole was found and a fairly big divot was taken out of his back with > it's > removal and now that scar is showing a little color in the center and > he has > been sent to a plastic surgeon to remove more. In the mean time a > another > suspect mole was cut out and proved to be non-cancerous. > > I have a feeling he is going to be full of scars in 10 years. Should I > urge > him to start iodine? He is from Michigan but has no thyroid issues and > I would > hate to be responsible for starting them in him. Will Iodine help? Any > other > suggestions to help stop this progression? > > __________________________________________________ > Quote
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Posted July 26, 2006 All though I haven't investigated escharotics yet, I do know that quackwatch is to be totally ignored. Too many things that I have tried that worked are listed as a scam on quackwatch... prolotherapy for one. The little man get his self worth by upholding the status quo. --- Parashis <artpages@...> wrote: > Quackwatch.org had some scary things to say about escharotics. > > http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/eschar.html > > On Jul 25, 2006, at 8:34 PM, comdyne@... wrote: > > > Unfortunately the surgical removal of the tumors has set the stage for > > the development of internal systemic cancers. Had the tumors > > been removed chemically with escharotics, the disease, which was > > localized in the skin as surface tumors that initially are only > > localized, became systemic due to the surgery. Dr. Nichols ran a > > very successful cancer clinic in Savannah Missouri that operated from > > 1918 to 1956 and treated over 70,000 patients. Dr. Nichols along with > > Harry Hoxsey were staunch opponents that criticized the established > > medical community for their surgical techniques that always ended in > > disaster. This holds true today. Doctors who remove surface cancers by > > surgery are unknowingly sealing the fate of their patients by cutting > > out the tumors. At one time, pioneer oncologists were highly critical > > of the surgical approach. Dr. Eli G. , a very famous American > > oncologist, who claimed that he cured over 80% of his cancer > > patiients, proclaimed that surgical extripation of cancer tumors was > > tatamount to an assault on the patient that should be criminally > > prosecutable. > >  > > Dr. Eli G. (1850-1933), in his c.1915 book 'Cancer, its Causes, > > Symptoms, and Treatment' states: “While sticking to the old theory > > that cancer is a local disease and depending upon surgical operations > > to cure it, the regular profession have not cured the malady. It is > > not about time that we should abandon the theory of the fathers and do > > some thinking for ourselves? The men in this country who have treated > > this disease successfully have treated it as a constitutional or blood > > disease. From my own experience of forty years in the study and > > medical treatment of cancer in all its forms, I am convinced that that > > it is the local manifestation of a blood disease.� Elsewhere he > > states: “As long as the regular school stick to that old chestnut that > > cancer is a local disease they will never find a cure for cancer. > > Meanwhile I am curing eighty percent of my cases of cancer by treating > > it as the local manifestation of a constitutional disease, as I was > > taught to do forty-five years ago.� > >  > > -- Skin cancer question. > >  > > > > My friend is covered with moles. He is urged by his dermatologist to > > come > > every 6 months for a search of his body for cancerous moles. One > > precancerous > > mole was found and a fairly big divot was taken out of his back with > > it's > > removal and now that scar is showing a little color in the center and > > he has > > been sent to a plastic surgeon to remove more. In the mean time a > > another > > suspect mole was cut out and proved to be non-cancerous. > > > > I have a feeling he is going to be full of scars in 10 years. Should I > > urge > > him to start iodine? He is from Michigan but has no thyroid issues and > > I would > > hate to be responsible for starting them in him. Will Iodine help? Any > > other > > suggestions to help stop this progression? > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Posted July 26, 2006 "It has been well-documented that chemo is useless against epithelial cancers which represents about 90% of all cancers. They administer the chemicals knowing full that they don't work for people with these types of cancers." -- comdyne Interesting. I'm not familiar with that. Could you give us the documentation for this??? Thanks. Zoe Quote
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Posted July 26, 2006 http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/8.30/helthrpt/stories/s1348333.htm -- Re: Skin cancer question. "It has been well-documented that chemo is useless against epithelial cancers which represents about 90% of all cancers. They administer the chemicals knowing full that they don't work for people with these types of cancers." -- comdyne Interesting. I'm not familiar with that. Could you give us the documentation for this??? Thanks. Zoe Quote
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Posted July 26, 2006 There have been some good results with " skin peel " type chemicals and skin cancer. Like that alpha-glycolic acid ... when the top layer of skin cells is gradually removed, the cells that were sun-damaged in childhood are removed too, and they don't go cancerous later. Makes your skin look great too. I use " Healthy Skin " from Neutrogena, and it's gotten rid of some of those weird spots that might have turned into something eventually. I tend to agree a lot of the damage is from the type of oils we eat. One that doesn't get mentioned much is canola. I was reading about goats once (I have goats) and the article mentioned that if goats are eating in canola fields, be sure to keep them out of the sun, because canola makes them sun-sensitive. At the time I was getting " sun sensitive dermatitis " ... my arms would break out every time I went in the sun. I switched off canola and onto coconut oil, and now it's not a problem (and no one in the family has ever gotten sunburnt since we switched). Considering that Canola has become one of the most common oils, it's not a wonder there are so many sun problems! -- Heidi Quote
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Posted July 26, 2006 >From: Heidi <heidis@...> > >I tend to agree a lot of the damage is from the type >of oils we eat. One that doesn't get mentioned much >is canola. I was reading about goats once (I have >goats) and the article mentioned that if goats >are eating in canola fields, be sure to keep them out >of the sun, because canola makes them sun-sensitive. You mean out of rapeseed fields, since that's where canola (Canadian Oil) comes from? http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/canola.htm " Officially, canola oil is known as " LEAR " oil - Low Erucic Acid, Rape. Industry experts love to tell how canola was developed in Canada and that it is safe to use. They admit it was developed from the rape seed, but that through genetic engineering, i.e. irradiation, it is no longer rape seed, but " canola " instead. [ " Canadian oil " , get it?] " If it's poison before processsing, I " m not sure I want it. Skipper _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Quote
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Posted July 26, 2006 The reference is in a book I republished. www.lulu.com/comdyne -- Re: Skin cancer question. Comdyne, I went to your reference but I couldn't find a mention of epithelial cancer on this page. Could you quote the direct section? Thanks. Zoe [Also, I find it always challenging to reply to your emails and delete the extra stuff. E.g., my type always ends up in white, the extra stuff on the bottom doesn't delete easily, etc. Your stationery, etc, are pretty, but would you be willing to simplify your emails so that it is easier to reply??? -- Zoe, in moderator hat] http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/8.30/helthrpt/stories/s1348333.htm "It has been well-documented that chemo is useless against epithelial cancers which represents about 90% of all cancers. They administer the chemicals knowing full that they don't work for people with these types of cancers." -- comdyne Interesting. I'm not familiar with that. Could you give us the documentation for this??? Thanks. Zoe Quote
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Posted July 26, 2006 Sometimes I cannot trim the emails. I have a crazy email program that has good and bad features in it. As I'm old and not that computer savvy, I have a hard time with some of this stuff. I have no control (that I am aware of) to block out the junk that is somehow attached to my responses. Its frustrating. Oh! In case you wanted a reference to carcinoma as it relates to chemo ineffectivnes, I obtained that from Dr. C.T. 's audio tape series. The reference to 90% of all cancer being carcinoma which is epithelial is referenced in Dr. Bell's book. It was published before chemical chemo came into being. He was using arsenic to kill cancer cells. I also read in Wallach's book 'Rare Earths - Forbidden Cures' that leukemia can be cured in 98% of cases with arsenic. I know that non-Hodgkins is being treated effectively with chemo but it causes leukemia to develop later on. X-rays also causes leukemia. To throw more fuel onto the fire, breast X-rays cause breast cancer. -- Re: Skin cancer question. Comdyne, I went to your reference but I couldn't find a mention of epithelial cancer on this page. Could you quote the direct section? Thanks. Zoe [Also, I find it always challenging to reply to your emails and delete the extra stuff. E.g., my type always ends up in white, the extra stuff on the bottom doesn't delete easily, etc. Your stationery, etc, are pretty, but would you be willing to simplify your emails so that it is easier to reply??? -- Zoe, in moderator hat] http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/8.30/helthrpt/stories/s1348333.htm "It has been well-documented that chemo is useless against epithelial cancers which represents about 90% of all cancers. They administer the chemicals knowing full that they don't work for people with these types of cancers." -- comdyne Interesting. I'm not familiar with that. Could you give us the documentation for this??? Thanks. Zoe Quote
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Posted July 26, 2006 >From: <kennio@...> >Reply-iodine >All though I haven't investigated escharotics yet, I do know that >quackwatch is >to be totally ignored. Too many things that I have tried that worked are >listed as a scam on quackwatch... prolotherapy for one. Tell me a little about prolotherapy. That's for backs and herniated disks, isn't it? Skipper _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Posted July 27, 2006 > You mean out of rapeseed fields, since that's where canola (Canadian Oil) > comes from? > > http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/canola.htm > " Officially, canola oil is known as " LEAR " oil - Low Erucic Acid, Rape. > Industry experts love to tell how canola was developed in Canada and that it > is safe to use. They admit it was developed from the rape seed, but that > through genetic engineering, i.e. irradiation, it is no longer rape seed, > but " canola " instead. [ " Canadian oil " , get it?] " > > If it's poison before processsing, I " m not sure I want it. > > > Skipper > Right. Canola is low in erucic acid, but the levels vary from batch to batch. I used to use it all the time, but now that I'm not using it, I can tell when I eat it because I get sort of short of breath (erucic acid can interfere with your lungs somehow). And all the vegie oils are high in linoleic acid, which is what they use to induce heart plaque in mice. -- Heidi Quote
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Posted August 2, 2006 Yeah, he recently lost a law suite against a chiropractor in California. He is a real jerk!! Jmo Allyn _____ From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Skipper Beers Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:15 AM iodine Subject: Re: Skin cancer question. >From: <kennio (DOT) <mailto:kennio%40> com> >Reply-iodinegroups (DOT) <mailto:iodine%40> com >All though I haven't investigated escharotics yet, I do know that >quackwatch is >to be totally ignored. Too many things that I have tried that worked are >listed as a scam on quackwatch... prolotherapy for one. Tell me a little about prolotherapy. That's for backs and herniated disks, isn't it? Skipper __________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger. <http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/> msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Posted August 2, 2006 And if you read the article by Sally Fallon and Enig, Canada paid the FDA something like $50 million dollars to get the FDA to approve it in our country. It is not user friendly-stay away from it!!! Allyn Re: Skin cancer question. >From: Heidi <heidis@...> > >I tend to agree a lot of the damage is from the type >of oils we eat. One that doesn't get mentioned much >is canola. I was reading about goats once (I have >goats) and the article mentioned that if goats >are eating in canola fields, be sure to keep them out >of the sun, because canola makes them sun-sensitive. You mean out of rapeseed fields, since that's where canola (Canadian Oil) comes from? http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/canola.htm " Officially, canola oil is known as " LEAR " oil - Low Erucic Acid, Rape. Industry experts love to tell how canola was developed in Canada and that it is safe to use. They admit it was developed from the rape seed, but that through genetic engineering, i.e. irradiation, it is no longer rape seed, but " canola " instead. [ " Canadian oil " , get it?] " If it's poison before processsing, I " m not sure I want it. Skipper _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfeeR Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Sister Website: www.iodine4health.com Quote
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