Battery Life

[Guest guest]

I built my device with 5 - 9 volt batteries in it. It kicks

Found a better way to put the electrodes on the wrist. Got some Transpore

surgical tape from the local pharmacy. and then I use the Spectra 360

electrode gel on the electrodes and tape them down with the surgical tape .

the tape holds them firmly in place. they dont move out of position anymore

like they did with the stretch band. The elctrode gel does not dry up so

once they are taped down you can do lots of things with out paying any

attention to them for that session.

V

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From: <jtimcam@...>

> In a message dated 7/31/02 8:26:47 PM Central Daylight Time,

> russ@... writes:

>

>

> > . If turned up all the

> > way it could be as low as 7-10 hours.

> >

>

> who on earth is able to run this thing " up all the way " ?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Tim

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/1/02 4:07:48 AM Central Daylight Time,

webman@... writes:

> I built my device with 5 - 9 volt batteries in it.

So how long does this " battery pack " arrangement last, on average?

It kicks

>

> If this is a potent arrangement, isn't the die-off and detox from it also

rather potent?

[Guest guest]

Well I have only been running it for a few weeks, so it will be a while

before I can tell how long it lasts. Nice thing about it I get some tingling

at a very low setting. The die off might be happening faster but, not much

because I still only use it set to where its comfortable, its just that

there is much more range on the higher end, with three batteries I would

have to have it set to almost maximum to feel anything, so if the batteries

were a little weak or the electrodes not conducting good, then I would feel

nothing. I also experimented with thoes self sticking electrodes and they

have a higher resistance and reqiuire more voltage to get a tingle.

I built the original Beck device that has the little relay in it, that way

you can switch as much voltage as you want.

V

>

>

> > I built my device with 5 - 9 volt batteries in it.

>

> So how long does this " battery pack " arrangement last, on average?

>

> It kicks

> >

> > If this is a potent arrangement, isn't the die-off and detox from it

also

> rather potent?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi group, just joined and thought that this was a good time to jump

in to this thread )

Yes, this original Beck device which contains 5 - 9v batteries IS

pretty potent. I developed a rash which appeared on my inner arms,

inner thighs and butt. I have not used the device for 3 days now and

the rash is clearing up nicely. When it is all gone I am going to

use the device again, but only for an hour at a time every 2nd or 3rd

day to start.

Di

> In a message dated 8/1/02 4:07:48 AM Central Daylight Time,

> webman@i... writes:

>

>

> > I built my device with 5 - 9 volt batteries in it.

>

> So how long does this " battery pack " arrangement last, on

average?

>

> It kicks

> >

> > If this is a potent arrangement, isn't the die-off and detox from

it also

> rather potent?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, I forgot my PS ) Has anyone else experienced a rash from doing

this? Just wondering how common it is.

Di

snip

When it is all gone I am going to

> use the device again, but only for an hour at a time every 2nd or

3rd

> day to start.

>

> Di

[Guest guest]

1. Always wash the area with soap and water or alcohol before using Beck or

type devises.

2. Always keep the current turned down to just below where you can feel it.

3. Always keep the electrodes evenly wet while using.

4. Always wash the area after you are finished.

This should reduce the chance of getting the rash.

Vitamin E, Cortisone, Aloe Vera, Benedryl have all been recommended to alleviate

the rash.

Dick

Re: Re: Battery Life

I have also developed a rash, using the device for

about 45 minutes a day. But that will be of little

concern if this device helps. Kitty

--- dianne11ca <di@...> wrote:

> Oh, I forgot my PS ) Has anyone else experienced

> a rash from doing

> this? Just wondering how common it is.

>

> Di

>

>

> snip

> When it is all gone I am going to

> > use the device again, but only for an hour at a

> time every 2nd or

> 3rd

> > day to start.

> >

> > Di

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Sounds like a bad battery to me.....

Deanna

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On Jan 28, 2010, at 8:29 PM, " women44s " <women44s@...> wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I had a Medtronic spinal cord stimulator put in, in August. The battery lasted

for 3 months when I was told it would last at least 3 years. So last week I had

it replaced with a rechargable battery. The company told me that because I run

the stimulator on one side at about 4.50 and 8.50 on the other that this is the

cause of the battery going dead in 3 months but these are the settings I need to

help with the pain. Does this sound right to any of you or did I get a bad

battery to start out with?

Christy

[Guest guest]

Hi List,

 

Here's the thing: I got implanted a second time back in September. So I have a

Freedom internal implant on the left side and the N5 internal implant on the

right. I''ve been using the N5s on both sides as my main processors and the

Freedom processors are my backups.

 

The past two years I was using the Freedom and the rechargeable batteries always

outlasted me (unless I fell asleep on the couch and took them off during the

night and then popped them back on in the morning-not much life after that).

There must be about 18 hours of battery " juice " in it before it needs a

recharge. Then I started using the N5s. Sometimes, I'll just use the Freedom. I

noticed that the battery life seemed shortened on the right side (the N5 side).

The left side still outlasted me before I went to bed. I got about 14 hours on

the new side.

 

I was told that battery life decreases after 2-3 years, little by little. Okay.

But, I used both rechargeables I had on the newer side. Both times the battery

went out at about 14 hours while the older implant side still outlasted me.

 

Now, instead of thinking that it kind of " deflates " just sitting in the

recharger for days or weeks without being used, I'm thinking that maybe the N5

might be taking in more power even though it's not as strong a map yet as the

older side is just because it has a different internal implant. (??) 

 

Any insight? I'm thinking it's not the battery because I " ve used both

rechargeables in the Freedom on the N5 internal. Both " lights went out " at

around 14 hours while the other side (both rechargeables) still ticked on till I

went to bed. So something is going on.

 

I'll

 

Thanks,

Shari

[Guest guest]

Hi Shari

I have been using the small rechargeable for the N5 since switch on, I am now

currently getting exactly 12 hrs out of one, what i have noticed was that for

every mapping i have had for switch on the battery life has shortened by about

one hour, I dont like the weight of the large battery, and am happy to switch

battery when i get home from work and i also carry the battery cage around with

me most of the time, just in case of emergency. What i did notice was that when

my battery went flat on my way home from work a few days ago, i reached for the

battery cage to put on, only to find that the batteries where flat, I think i

had put the batteries in it just after activation about 11 weeks ago and have

never used it, so now i will have to ensure that I carry around fresh batteries

as well.

I cant remember what the life of the rechargeable batteries is supposed to be,

but my audi said most people only get about 8 hours out of the small one so i

guess im still doing well to be getting 12 hours.

Neil

From: Shari <skedi1@...>

Subject: Battery Life

Received: Saturday, 18 December, 2010, 1:33 AM

 

Hi List,

 

Here's the thing: I got implanted a second time back in September. So I have a

Freedom internal implant on the left side and the N5 internal implant on the

right. I''ve been using the N5s on both sides as my main processors and the

Freedom processors are my backups.

 

The past two years I was using the Freedom and the rechargeable batteries always

outlasted me (unless I fell asleep on the couch and took them off during the

night and then popped them back on in the morning-not much life after that).

There must be about 18 hours of battery " juice " in it before it needs a

recharge. Then I started using the N5s. Sometimes, I'll just use the Freedom. I

noticed that the battery life seemed shortened on the right side (the N5 side).

The left side still outlasted me before I went to bed. I got about 14 hours on

the new side.

 

I was told that battery life decreases after 2-3 years, little by little. Okay.

But, I used both rechargeables I had on the newer side. Both times the battery

went out at about 14 hours while the older implant side still outlasted me.

 

Now, instead of thinking that it kind of " deflates " just sitting in the

recharger for days or weeks without being used, I'm thinking that maybe the N5

might be taking in more power even though it's not as strong a map yet as the

older side is just because it has a different internal implant. (??) 

 

Any insight? I'm thinking it's not the battery because I " ve used both

rechargeables in the Freedom on the N5 internal. Both " lights went out " at

around 14 hours while the other side (both rechargeables) still ticked on till

I went to bed. So something is going on.

 

I'll

 

Thanks,

Shari

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your reply, Neil,

 

WIth the N5s I am not having any problems with them. The bigger rechargerables

outlast me and I got one smaller rechargeable battery with the kit and that one

lasts me about 15 hours on the older side. I'll have to start writing down how

long it takes for the smaller rechargeable to last on the newer side. I do

remember the bigger batteries lasted about 23 h ours on the new side so really,

I'm not going to stay up 23 hours, but that was on activation day, so it could

be a little less now that the map is a little stronger  .

 

I emailed my audie and she said to try switching the controllers on my Freedoms

and see if the new side still drains the battery. It could be a problem with the

processor and since it's still under warranty, I might be able to get a

replacement if there's a problem with them.

 

So, I'm going to try that tomorrow and see how that works. She said that

since I have used both batteries in the new side and both times the batteries

drained, she knows it's not the batteries unless for some reason,it needs more

power. It's still newly mapped, not taking as much power as the older side yet,

so who knows it it's the processor or just the internal N5 draining the Freedom.

 

Did a lot of people get 2 bigger rechargeable batteries with the N6 and one

smaller one? I might have to wait a little while to purchase another smaller one

just so I have a set.

 

In any case, I'll let you all know when I switch the controllers if it still

drains the battery.

 

Thanks,

Shari

[Guest guest]

Since the Freedom processor uses 3 batteries and the N5 uses 2, my guess

is that the rechargeables would also be powered the same way. Hence, the

N5 would run out of power before the Freedom does. Just speculating, but

it's a thought. From a blonde, so take it for what it's worth.

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[Guest guest]

Good guess, dear , but no cigar..<G>

All lithium-ion rechargeable batteries are rated at the same voltage, 3.7.

Their storage capacity is rated in mAh (milliAmpere hours)

These are the mAh ratings for the Cochlear rechargeable:

Freedom: 180

N5 compact: 120

N5 standard: 205

Processor power requirements are rated in maw (kilowatts)

Freedom: Typical 60mW

N5: From 20-100

Obviously impossible to compare with publicly-available data)

FWIW..

Bob

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

nucleus24@...

Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 7:43 PM

Subject: [Cheer] Re: Battery Life

 

Since the Freedom processor uses 3 batteries and the N5 uses 2, my guess

is that the rechargeables would also be powered the same way. Hence, the

N5 would run out of power before the Freedom does. Just speculating, but

it's a thought. From a blonde, so take it for what it's worth.

[Guest guest]

Correction:

" Processor power requirements are rated in maw (kilowatts) "

Should have read: Processor power requirements are rated in mW (milliWatts)

My Duhhhh

Bob

..............

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

MacPherson

Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 8:45 AM

Subject: RE: Re: Battery Life

 

Good guess, dear , but no cigar..<G>

All lithium-ion rechargeable batteries are rated at the same voltage, 3.7.

Their storage capacity is rated in mAh (milliAmpere hours)

These are the mAh ratings for the Cochlear rechargeable:

Freedom: 180

N5 compact: 120

N5 standard: 205

Processor power requirements are rated in maw (kilowatts)

Freedom: Typical 60mW

N5: From 20-100

Obviously impossible to compare with publicly-available data)

FWIW..

Bob

............

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

nucleus24@...

Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 7:43 PM

Subject: [Cheer] Re: Battery Life

 

Since the Freedom processor uses 3 batteries and the N5 uses 2, my guess

is that the rechargeables would also be powered the same way. Hence, the

N5 would run out of power before the Freedom does. Just speculating, but

it's a thought. From a blonde, so take it for what it's worth.

[Guest guest]

Bob,

I was comparing disposable battery life using 2 batteries with the N5

and 3 with the Freedom. I'd expect the Freedom to run longer on 3 than

the N5 does on 2, but I might be wrong. I'm often wrong, but seldom

uncertain.

I use the standard size rechargeables with the N5 and have to remember

to recharge them every 3 days. I don't use the Freedom rechargeables.

So not sure how long I'd get on those.

These are the mAh ratings for the Cochlear rechargeable:

Freedom: 180

N5 compact: 120

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[Guest guest]

The glitch in any comparison beween the N5 and Freedom, , is the lack

of a published " typical " power consumption rating for the N5 to compare with

the 60mW rating of the Freedom.

We do know that the energy available from the 2 batteries in the N5 is 2/3

that of the 3 in the Freedom but we don't know the relative rate at which

that energy will be depleted, between the processors.

Bob

.................

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

nucleus24@...

Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 8:34 PM

Subject: Re: Battery Life

 

Bob,

I was comparing disposable battery life using 2 batteries with the N5

and 3 with the Freedom. I'd expect the Freedom to run longer on 3 than

the N5 does on 2, but I might be wrong. I'm often wrong, but seldom

uncertain.

I use the standard size rechargeables with the N5 and have to remember

to recharge them every 3 days. I don't use the Freedom rechargeables.

So not sure how long I'd get on those.

[Guest guest]

And since this qualifies as a 'word problem " in Math, I'm not qualified

to answer it. Never could do those. Did anyone see the Larson

cartoon featuring Hell's Library? All the books were Word Problems.

We do know that the energy available from the 2 batteries in the N5 is

2/3

that of the 3 in the Freedom but we don't know the relative rate at which

that energy will be depleted, between the processors.

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