Re: Re: Klonipin

[Guest guest]

HI Marti

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Here's some info I gathered on Klonopin

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http://phoenix-cfs.org/TrtKlonopinhtm.htm

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I'm probably going to try it. & nbsp;

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Cort

From: marti_zavala & lt;marti_zavala@... & gt;

Subject: Re: Klonipin

Date: Sunday, June 1, 2008, 9:50 PM

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& gt; Sounds like Klonopin might do you some good given the description

& gt; of your symptoms. It's just the stopping part that might be hard

& gt; for you, but maybe not. Since you are going to switch to Flexeril,

& gt; you might be OK. I think a lot of docs put people on Klonopin (or

& gt; valium) and if they are doing good on it then the doc just keeps

& gt; on prescribing it. If you need something to calm your CNS, seems

to

& gt; me that it is better to 'rotate' drugs than to stay w/ the same

& gt; thing long term. BTW, I didn't like Trazadone. I have a bunch

& gt; left, only took one or two.

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& gt; Mike (I only take K for sleep, my CNS isn't bad-I still work)

Hi Mike,

I wasn't very clear - Dr. Baraniuk wants me to take two drugs, one

is Klonipin and the other is either Flexeril OR Trazadone. I

haven't researched either one and will probably not take either of

these but I was open to the Klonipin due to the glutamate/brain

protection theories of Cheney.

1 mg per day doesn't sound like much to me but the bad withdrawal

sounds terrible (poked around in archives a little).

The Flexeril is supposed to be for sleep and for FM pain but I seem

to be doing okay with FM pain with Malic Acid, Magnesium and

Tramadol. I do really great with baking soda and water but nervous

about having low to no stomach acid already and having that make it

worse.

I would like to get off the Tramadol and am considering a TENS unit.

Not everything can be replaced by natural stuff but I am trying to

keep it to a minimum.

Marti

[Guest guest]

My understanding is that Klonopin acts on the glutamate receptors. So, I

would assume it helps to protect the brain from excitotoxin damage. My

doctor said GABA would do the same so I use that instead.

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 5:33 PM, pjeanneus <pj7@...> wrote:

> I have at least three patient horror stories re Klonopin in my files.

> I hasten to add that I could write my own horror story on Lyrica

> which is supposed to be safer. It ain't.

>

> Here are the side effects. Please note that my file stories are

> exactly like what they call RARE side effects. Please understand that

> we are not well and the chance of every side effect being increased

> is HUGE. I have never figured why Cheney thinks Klonopin protects the

> brain. But then I still have a brain, or I like to think I do.

> a Carnes

>

> Side effects

> Common:

>

> Drowsiness

> Impairment of cognition and judgment

> Impaired motor function

> Impaired coordination

> Impaired balance

> Dizziness

> Anterograde amnesia (common with higher doses)

> Rare:

>

> Paradoxical Disinhibition [1] (Most frequently in children, the

> elderly, and in persons with developmental disabilities)

> Rage

> Excitement

> Irritability

> Impulsivity

> Some users report hangover-like symptoms of being drowsy, having a

> headache, being sluggish, and irritable after waking up if the

> medication is taken before sleep. This is likely the result of the

> medication's long half-life which continues to affect the user after

> they wake up as well as its disruption of the REM cycle.

> Withdrawal-related:

>

> Anxiety, irritability, insomnia

> Panic attacks, tremor

> Seizures similar to delirium tremens (With long-term use of excessive

> doses)

>

[Guest guest]

agree paula, this has been around a while but still experimental in my opinion

and a valid discussion, the benefits while on it are usually wonderful and side

effect somwhat limited, however it is toxic and just like lyrica/ it is a benzo

and difficult to get off. Especially with us as we have more protracted

withdrawls due to slow detox and brain injury. I wen t through hell getting off

ativan, n ow im on 1mg of klonopin and trying to get off that slowly. .25mg a

moonth or slower. if oyou want to send private message thats fine.

@...: pwr2heal@...: Wed, 4 Jun

2008 12:30:34 -0700Subject: Re: Re: Klonipin

My understanding is that Klonopin acts on the glutamate receptors. So, Iwould

assume it helps to protect the brain from excitotoxin damage. Mydoctor said GABA

would do the same so I use that instead.On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 5:33 PM,

pjeanneus <pj7@...> wrote:> I have at least three patient horror stories re

Klonopin in my files.> I hasten to add that I could write my own horror story on

Lyrica> which is supposed to be safer. It ain't.>> Here are the side effects.

Please note that my file stories are> exactly like what they call RARE side

effects. Please understand that> we are not well and the chance of every side

effect being increased> is HUGE. I have never figured why Cheney thinks Klonopin

protects the> brain. But then I still have a brain, or I like to think I do.>

a Carnes>> Side effects> Common:>> Drowsiness> Impairment of cognition and

judgment> Impaired motor function> Impaired coordination> Impaired balance>

Dizziness> Anterograde amnesia (common with higher doses)> Rare:>> Paradoxical

Disinhibition [1] (Most frequently in children, the> elderly, and in persons

with developmental disabilities)> Rage> Excitement> Irritability> Impulsivity>

Some users report hangover-like symptoms of being drowsy, having a> headache,

being sluggish, and irritable after waking up if the> medication is taken before

sleep. This is likely the result of the> medication's long half-life which

continues to affect the user after> they wake up as well as its disruption of

the REM cycle.> Withdrawal-related:>> Anxiety, irritability, insomnia> Panic

attacks, tremor> Seizures similar to delirium tremens (With long-term use of

excessive> doses)>