Re: Thea re Jeff re: living with depression

[Guest guest]

You are extremely well spoken and obviously well informed!!!!

Mine is a bit different....G.A.D. so it may be easier to live with

than Major Depression...In any case, your points are well taken and

I also wish you the best!

regards

jeff

> > > > As crummy as it sounds, folks lived with our disorders for

years

> > > > before the advent of prozac (first SSRI).

> > >

> > > Correction: Some folks lived with it, and some folks died

from

> it.

> > > There has been a reduction in suicide worldwide since anti-

> > > depressants were introduced. And the countless others who

lived

> with

> > > it suffered nearly intolerable misery for their entire lives.

> > >

> > > I personally don't feel at all numbed emotionally on SSRIs,

but I

> > > have heard this said before. All I can say is, if numbness

seems

> > > worse to you than your depression/anxiety, then you're not

> depressed

> > > enough to need an SSRI. There was no question in my case.

When I

> > > was in the depth of my depression, numbness would have been a

> > > moonlight cruise in the Caribbean compared to what I was going

> > > through.

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[Guest guest]

And I wish you the best. If there ever is a day when the doc figures out

some non drug way for me to not have these weird hallucinatory panic things,

guess who I'll be talking to about coming off the stuff?

Right now, I can't imagine being able to be off the meds, but you never

know.

Thea

Re: Thea re Jeff re: living with depression

>

> You are extremely well spoken and obviously well informed!!!!

> Mine is a bit different....G.A.D. so it may be easier to live with

> than Major Depression...In any case, your points are well taken and

> I also wish you the best!

> regards

> jeff

>

>

> > > > > As crummy as it sounds, folks lived with our disorders for

> years

> > > > > before the advent of prozac (first SSRI).

> > > >

> > > > Correction: Some folks lived with it, and some folks died

> from

> > it.

> > > > There has been a reduction in suicide worldwide since anti-

> > > > depressants were introduced. And the countless others who

> lived

> > with

> > > > it suffered nearly intolerable misery for their entire lives.

> > > >

> > > > I personally don't feel at all numbed emotionally on SSRIs,

> but I

> > > > have heard this said before. All I can say is, if numbness

> seems

> > > > worse to you than your depression/anxiety, then you're not

> > depressed

> > > > enough to need an SSRI. There was no question in my case.

> When I

> > > > was in the depth of my depression, numbness would have been a

> > > > moonlight cruise in the Caribbean compared to what I was going

> > > > through.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

> For some reason, many people can't accept that psychological

> disorders have a physiological cause, despite years of hard

evidence

> of this.

>

>

Do we have hard evidence ? As far as I have heard everyone is still

unsure of what the causes are / could be / might be .... ?

[Guest guest]

I think we're talking about a mind/body connection here, as we are with all

diseases.

What I mean is, Parkinson's is a physical disease. You can't get Parkinson's

from a bad attitude. And yet, one of Park's symptoms is depression because

of the changing levels of dopamine in the brain.

One of the symptoms of low blood sugar is nervousness; of hypothyroidism,

lethargy and lack of energy.

Physical diseases with psychological symptoms.

On the other hand, faulty thinking patterns can lead to depression or worry

or anger or whatever. Which can then lead to physical diseases like ulcers.

Perhaps that's why most professionals say both cognitive counselling and

medication is considered ideal therapy. Double threat, as it were. Making

sure to get both ends of the mind/body connection.

Thea

Thea

Re: Thea re Jeff re: living with depression

> > For some reason, many people can't accept that psychological

> > disorders have a physiological cause, despite years of hard

> evidence

> > of this.

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> Do we have hard evidence ? As far as I have heard everyone is still

> unsure of what the causes are / could be / might be .... ?

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