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SWF Greg Skipper may be able to help you also or speak to your case manager you can contact him www.ethylglucuronide.com he also has mro services he heads up physician recovery in my state and is a good guy in recovery himself feel free to use my name as a referral if you need to... regards,rstandswithfist731 <standswithfist731@...> wrote: I am trying like crazy to download that video but am having major difficulty!!!!!!! I think that it is GREAT that this is happening. I really am ready for it! I know that I am pretty knew to ETG but from reading the messages here, I feel for everyone and can relate so much to their suffering. Thanks for this group!!!!It has so helped me. Thanks Robin.........Now back to working on that KMVO video!> Just got back from my meeting with the case manager regarding the > +ETG. I met with the whole staff there. It was basically told to me > that either I take a polygraph and a 10 stand hair test with ETG or > the other option which was the medical evaluation, or he would call > the BON on me for noncompliance. He stated I would not be able to go > back to work as a nurse. I told him that I could not afford the > polygraph and the hair strand test. He then stated that I could only > take the polygraph and that is what I am doing. I related

to the staff > that I did not drink alcohol, and the unreliabilty of ETG. I told him > that I believe that one of the Boards had stopped testing for ETG. > They wanted to know which one and I told them I wasn't sure. They > concluded to me that the test was very much RELIABLE and that was end > of discussion. Anyway, I will be going next Friday and taking the > test. I am nervous, not because I drank but I have never been > submitted to a polygraph before and don't know what to expect. I am so > tired and weary and worn out. Any help out there would be appreciated.>

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If you are in a court of law and they don't request it you can be more than certain they will not accept it as evidence as in my case . that is why I posted a piece that was done on it a while back . it has been proven to be junk science to a degree , just cant wait for the day that etg is officially named the same .In a message dated 3/15/2008 12:15:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mslizrn@... writes:

th entire process was about an hour and a half. That included the pre interview. The actual test was 30 minutes max.-------------- Original message ----------------------From: "standswithfist731" <standswithfist731 >> How long did it take to administer the poloygraph? I have never > known anyone that has taken one. I am ready to drive another nail in > the coffin! Thanks!>

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th entire process was about an hour and a half. That included the pre interview.

The actual test was 30 minutes max.

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From: " standswithfist731 " <standswithfist731@...>

> How long did it take to administer the poloygraph? I have never

> known anyone that has taken one. I am ready to drive another nail in

> the coffin! Thanks!

>

>

>

> I took the polygraph. I was nervous as well, but knew I was being

truthful. I passed 100%. I did it only for myself as my DEC would

not accept the results nor will the Calif. BRN. You can bet I did

give them all a copy anyway!! My best advice is to understand that

anyone taking a polygraph is nervous and this is figured into the

test. You will be fine, hang in there, this is another nail in the

EtG coffin!!

> -------------- Original message ----------------------

> From: " standswithfist731 " <standswithfist731@...>

> > Just got back from my meeting with the case manager regarding

the

> > +ETG. I met with the whole staff there. It was basically told to

me

> > that either I take a polygraph and a 10 stand hair test with ETG

or

> > the other option which was the medical evaluation, or he would

call

> > the BON on me for noncompliance. He stated I would not be able

to go

> > back to work as a nurse. I told him that I could not afford the

> > polygraph and the hair strand test. He then stated that I could

only

> > take the polygraph and that is what I am doing. I related to the

staff

> > that I did not drink alcohol, and the unreliabilty of ETG. I

told him

> > that I believe that one of the Boards had stopped testing for

ETG.

> > They wanted to know which one and I told them I wasn't sure.

They

> > concluded to me that the test was very much RELIABLE and that

was end

> > of discussion. Anyway, I will be going next Friday and taking

the

> > test. I am nervous, not because I drank but I have never been

> > submitted to a polygraph before and don't know what to expect. I

am so

> > tired and weary and worn out. Any help out there would be

appreciated.

> >

> >

>

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I thought ca probation was only 3 years? It seems it depends on your monitor.

> From: JILL hall <jillypill@...>

> Subject: Re: etg

> Ethylglucuronide

> Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 7:03 PM

> Sorry.... i am in california and yes mariann is my probation

> monitor..any help with atorney's or toxicoogist would be

> greatly

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Help finding a toxicologist. I called the NH state police crime unit in my capital , that's a good place to start , DO NOT TELL RECEPTIONIST , just say you need to discuss a case , ask for the head one , then proceed to get his email . Send him everything after you talk to him . Just be polite and to the point , I made great headway with mine in doing so and we still talk today as my mission now is to keep this happening to others in my situation. Good Luck Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars.

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nne is mine as well, and yes it does depend on your monitor. She is quick

to remind me that at her discretion, she can impose additional education,

meetings, time etc. I have been on since December, met with her in January, and

after multiple attempts to email a question to her, I called and left her a

message. Apparently that made her angry and my meetings got increased from 1 to

4 a week, and I haven't heard from her since March! She assured me when I met

with her that she would inform me each time I tested of my results as soon as

she had them as she was aware that I was concerned about the EtG. I have had 5

tests and not a word form her. Am afraid to call or email as to do that would

risk having to do more meetings or some other form of retaliation. There is far

too much power in that position!!

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> Ethylglucuronide

> Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 7:03 PM

> Sorry.... i am in california and yes mariann is my probation

> monitor..any help with atorney's or toxicoogist would be

> greatly

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do you have your most recent EtG false positive numbers

with simulataneous creatinine values?

From: JILL hall <jillypill@...>Subject: Re: etgEthylglucuronide Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 9:03 PM

Sorry.... i am in california and yes mariann is my probation monitor..any help with atorney's or toxicoogist would be greatly

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how can an expert witness testify without precise numbers/creatinines?

they probably do not have the simultaneous creatinines or legal chain of custody

defintely hiding something if they will not furnish lab data

by withholding evidence from you they are denying you due process...

get an atty you are being Nifonged

From: JILL hall <jillypill@...>Subject: Re: etgEthylglucuronide Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 7:23 PM

they wont give me my numbers just stated that my 4/17 was very high and my 6/5 was very low...it doesn't matter I am living proof that you can have hi levels without drinking or eating anyhthing with etoh...i am so sick of this...it has consumed so much of my life for the last year

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I think if you are looking for a expert on etg then 4 of the top ten experts in the nation are on this web site at least. The horrible problem is that there is so much complexity associated with this test that there are no toxicologists,mro people, physicians, board members, and scientists who have a grasp of the chemistry of etg. It took me hundreds of hours of reading to educate myself. I know this test is wrong. It is very wrong. Dr Dan

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I have printed all the file stuff but it's chinese to me for the most part and not sure which one staes what dr dan is saying if any of them

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