Guest guest Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 A DOCTOR IS RECOMMENDING OZONE? IS HE SELLING THEM? NO DOCTOR IN HIS RIGHT MIND WOULD PROMOTE SOMETHING THAT IS A CONFIRMED RESPIRATORY IRRITANT. Gawd, help his other patients. On Wed, 15 Jun 2005, kl_clayton wrote: > Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:07:07 -0000 > From: kl_clayton <kl_clayton@...> > Reply- > > Subject: [] air cleaner > > Dear Group, > > I have some thoughts I would like to share about an air cleaner I got on > the advice of the > allergist. He told me to get an ozone air cleaner and put it in the > basement, because it kills > mold, and I still have some there. So, after extensive research (online) > I decided to get an > Aronizer brand, as the company does lots of research (I like that), among > other things, like > it is supposed to be easier on the lungs than other brands. It is also > much cheaper, at least > the one I found online. I dutifully put it in the basement, and over some > days, it really did > improve the air down there. The cool part is this: > > The upstairs bath is where we had a horrible problem with mold, and we > tore everything > out and remodeled it last fall. On Monday, the tub was completely plugged > up, and since I > was feeling good, I thought I would take the drain apart. So I opened the > access door to > the plumbing behind the shower, sat down, and proceeded to have a > reaction to the > residual mold that was left over under the tub. Nothing growing, just > must have been > some spores from before. Of course, I got up and left the room, shutting > the door. Then I > decided to put the machine in there for a couple of hours and see what > happened. So, I > left the access door panel off, put the machine in the opening, turned it > on full blast, shut > the room up, and left. > > After a couple of hours, I went in and opened it all up to the fresh air- > window open and > fan on, aired it out for 20 minutes or so, and tried again. YAY! I fixed > the drain and had no > problem with my allergy! > > This machine does not just clean the air, it seems to act as a portable > decontamination > unit. > > I thought this was so significant, I wanted to share this with you. My > allergy was > anaphylactic, and I have been under treatment (which is working) to > reduce my levels of > reaction. > > If anyone else has had anything like this, I would be interested in > hearing about it. > > > > > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 , I have missed some of this. What ozone light or machine are you using? Is yours strong enough that you see evidence of it killing mold? Is this one someone said they were carrying from room to room? I would be interested to try in my attic. Mold levels readings there were 5X higher than rest of house and I think ozone would leave through ventilation devices there anyway. Barb B --- In , " kl_clayton " <kl_clayton@y...> wrote: > The research is very clear that ozone kills mold. No, he doesn't sell anything. There is > some information suggesting that the irritation is from nitrous oxides produced by some > brands as a by product. Anyway, my doctor said to put it in the basement, turn it on, and > Leave. He did not want me around it, but it kills mold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 I am carrying it from room to room. Right at the moment, it is in my car. I no longer have any visible mold in my home, I had it all removed. I do have some residual stuff going on, and am trying this. Itis billed as an air cleaner, but I am not using it as that. I am using it as a decontamination unit. There are several models, many industrial sized. The problem I have with these companies, is that they often say that ALL you need to do is use their machine and everything will be fine. That is not right, in my opinion. You still need to stop the water intrusion problem, tear out the moldy and water damaged materials, and then use it to clean up the residual spores and VOC's. At least, that is what I am doing, and that is the most reasonable approach, in my opinion. The brand name is Aranizer, and I got mine from a dealer on ebay. They make small and large units, the company is online and puts much of their money back into researching their machines, it's family run, and been around for 50 years. > , > I have missed some of this. What ozone light or machine are you > using? Is yours strong enough that you see evidence of it killing > mold? Is this one someone said they were carrying from room to > room? > I would be interested to try in my attic. Mold levels readings > there were 5X higher than rest of house and I think ozone would > leave through ventilation devices there anyway. > Barb B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 I've never used an ozone generator; however from my research (I could be wrong) concluded that an ozone generator is not what I want in my home. Also.....would love expert opinion on these statements: " Second, for many of the chemicals with which ozone does readily react, the reaction can form a variety of harmful or irritating by-products (Weschler et al., 1992a, 1992b, 1996; Zhang and Lioy, 1994). For example, in a laboratory experiment that mixed ozone with chemicals from new carpet, ozone reduced many of these chemicals, including those which can produce new carpet odor. However, in the process, the reaction produced a variety of aldehydes, and the total concentration of organic chemicals in the air increased rather than decreased after the introduction of ozone (Weschler, et. al., 1992b). In addition to aldehydes, ozone may also increase indoor concentrations of formic acid (Zhang and Lioy, 1994), both of which can irritate the lungs if produced in sufficient amounts. Some of the potential by-products produced by ozone's reactions with other chemicals are themselves very reactive and capable of producing irritating and corrosive by-products (Weschler and Shields, 1996, 1997a, 1997b). Given the complexity of the chemical reactions that occur, additional research is needed to more completely understand the complex interactions of indoor chemicals in the presence of ozone. a.. Third, ozone does not remove particles (e.g., dust and pollen) from the air, including the particles that cause most allergies. However, some ozone generators are manufactured with an " ion generator " or " ionizer " in the same unit. An ionizer is a device that disperses negatively (and/or positively) charged ions into the air. These ions attach to particles in the air giving them a negative (or positive) charge so that the particles may attach to nearby surfaces such as walls or furniture, or attach to one another and settle out of the air. In recent experiments, ionizers were found to be less effective in removing particles of dust, tobacco smoke, pollen or fungal spores than either high efficiency particle filters or electrostatic precipitators. (Shaughnessy et al., 1994; Pierce, et al., 1996). However, it is apparent from other experiments that the effectiveness of particle air cleaners, including electrostatic precipitators, ion generators, or pleated filters varies widely (U.S. EPA, 1995). " The above are from: http://www.epa.gov/iaq/pubs/ozonegen.html What concerns me is the statement " some of the potential by-products produced by ozone's reactions with other chemicals are themselves very reaction and capable...... " Rosie -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.3/15 - Release Date: 6/14/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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