Guest guest Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 Hello, I have a question....I always see people who have Cochlear brand CI's post here on this forum about how wonderful it is to have the disposable batteries for your CI, and how your lifestyles require this and how much of a pain rechargeables would be, etc, and how glad you are that your CI's don't have rechargeable batteries. So now I see that Cochlear is coming out with rechargeable batteries, and talking like that's a good thing, when I thought you guys didn't like the idea of rechargeables? It's a puzzle......... Binns ----Original Message Follows---- From: " MacPherson " <hohbob@...> Reply- " bh News post A " <bhNewsgroups> Subject: Dear Cochlear: Cat's Outa the Bag Now-- The Press Release? Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:00:50 -0400 Dear Cochlear: Cat's Outa the Bag Now-- The Press Release? - Bob Opinion On Saturday, June 24, it was revealed to all not in hibernation beneath slimy rocks, in forwards of insider info, of new and exiting upgrades for N 24 recipients to the new Freedom, rechargeable power in the next generation, and more. On one list, it was reported that Cochlear's customer support lines were being overloaded with requests for information, despite the fact that initial reports clearly stated that all of concern would be sent information packets at the end of July. The editor here expected full well to see a press release from Cochlear at least by Monday - But it has not happened. The " Offical Word " ! So, dear Cochlear, please get off your duff and do your duty in a PR and news insert on your websites, US and international! I might add that the website of AG Bell, where the announcement was made, carried no report at all.. (Not unusual) JMHO Bob Quote
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 Hey Bob, They must be listening to you I just received an Alert teh Press Release came out at noon today. You have more influnce than you realize :-)) Regards, Mike " Ears Hopin " P Nucleus Freedom see below... June 28, 2006 12:36 PM US Eastern Timezone Cochlear Receives FDA Approval for the Next Generation of the Nucleus ® Freedom Cochlear Implant System ENGLEWOOD, Colo.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 28, 2006-- Updates Including Improved Performance, Additional Battery Options and Smaller Behind the Ear Controller to be Available to New Recipients and Nucleus 24 Users Cochlear today announced that it has received FDA approval for the Next Generation of the Nucleus Freedom cochlear implant system, designed to mimic the functions of the human ear. The advanced system includes the widest available range of programming choices, sound processors and power options to match each individual's unique hearing fingerprint. The next-generation device will be available in early July. The upgrade device will be available in late summer. " The Next Generation of Nucleus Freedom offers advanced implant technologies combined with a broad range of listening and wearing customization, helping our recipients experience and enjoy a natural world of sound, " said , president, Cochlear Americas. " The fact that this device will also be compatible and accessible to Nucleus 24 recipients is a testament to Cochlear's lifetime commitment to support all its wearers with access to the latest technological improvements. " Features and improvements of the device include: -- Unmatched Reliability: Initial data demonstrate that Freedom is the most reliable device ever designed by any manufacturer. -- Improved Hearing Performance: Test scores show that Nucleus Freedom recipients adjust and perform better in shorter periods of time when measured against Cochlear's previous device, the Nucleus 24 Contour. -- Improved battery life and additional battery options: The Nucleus Freedom system offers disposable and rechargeable power. -- The Mini BTE (behind-the-ear) Controller: The discreet Mini BTE provides up to 4 days (12 hours = day) of battery life and can be personalized by a quick click of the cover to change the color panels. -- SmartSound Innovation: SmartSound technology allows users to adapt to a range of listening environments for focused listening, comfort in noise, dynamic sound environments and soft and distant sounds. " It's thrilling to see recipients' lives so dramatically improved with the Nucleus 24 Freedom--to watch them grow, and be able to share their joy as they develop the confidence to venture into listening environments that were previously a challenge, " said Cochlear audiologist Parkinson, MA, CCC/A. " With the new technology, recipients are able to hear much more effectively in previously difficult environments, such as on a phone call with a total stranger, or in a noisy restaurant. " Cochlear implants are a safe and effective treatment for severe-to- profound hearing loss in adults and children. These are amazing technological devices that bypass damaged hair cells in the ear and stimulate hearing nerves directly, providing useful hearing and improved communication abilities to the implant user. The Nucleus Freedom system is the only cochlear implant system that offers unmatched reliability, feature flexibility, IP44 tested water- resistance and a variety of adjustable options to meet each user's individual need and hearing fingerprint. This allows each individual the best chance to optimize his or her hearing experience in a range of listening situations. Initially approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in March 2005 with upgrades approved this year, the Nucleus Freedom features both an internal component and an external sound processor. About Cochlear Americas Since launching the world's first cochlear implant system more than 20 years ago, Cochlear Limited and its US headquarters, Cochlear Americas, have brought the miracle of sound to more than 76,000 hearing-impaired individuals across the globe. Cochlear's state-of- the-art technologies, based on extensive research and development at preeminent academic institutions, restore the ability to hear sound and understand speech--enhancing both learning capabilities and quality of life for those with severe to profound hearing loss. Cochlear has remained the market leader in its field thanks to an unwavering commitment to innovation, reliability and customer support. Numerous awards, as well as published scientific data, attest to Cochlear's outstanding product line and unsurpassed performance. Cochlear's promise " Hear now. And always " reflects its dedication to durability and service. For more information about Cochlear's products, call the Cochlear Nucleus Hotline at 800/458- 4999 (Voice) or 800/483-3123 (TTY) or visit the website at www.cochlear.com. > > Dear Cochlear: Cat's Outa the Bag Now-- The Press Release? - Bob Opinion > > On Saturday, June 24, it was revealed to all not in hibernation beneath > slimy rocks, in forwards of insider info, of new and exiting upgrades for N > 24 recipients to the new Freedom, rechargeable power in the next generation, > and more. > > On one list, it was reported that Cochlear's customer support lines were > being overloaded with requests for information, despite the fact that > initial reports clearly stated that all of concern would be sent information > packets at the end of July. > > The editor here expected full well to see a press release from Cochlear at > least by Monday - But it has not happened. > > The " Offical Word " ! > > So, dear Cochlear, please get off your duff and do your duty in a PR and > news insert on your websites, US and international! > > I might add that the website of AG Bell, where the announcement was made, > carried no report at all.. (Not unusual) > JMHO > > Bob > Quote
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 Hi , I certianly can't and won't speak for others but I have always said I prefered the convenience of the disposable batteries for my lifestyle, I have never said rechargables are a bad thing they are just my 2nd choice. Personally my feeling is the best anyone could hope for is to have both options and it looks like that is the thinking at Cochlear as well. I know for many rechargables are not a problem and it will be nice for the Freedom users who want this option now to have the choice. I would not say my lifestyle " Requires " disposable batteries, but I admit I find rechargables a pain for my other devices - PDA, Cell Phone, laptop even, I do understand those who like rechargables and for some they are a greater convenience so I guess what is a " Good Thing " is the option of both and not being tied to either or. Regards, Mike " Ears Hopin " P > > Hello, > I have a question....I always see people who have Cochlear brand CI's post > here on this forum about how wonderful it is to have the disposable > batteries for your CI, and how your lifestyles require this and how much of > a pain rechargeables would be, etc, and how glad you are that your CI's > don't have rechargeable batteries. So now I see that Cochlear is coming out > with rechargeable batteries, and talking like that's a good thing, when I > thought you guys didn't like the idea of rechargeables? It's a > puzzle......... > > Binns > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: " MacPherson " <hohbob@...> > Reply- > " bh News post A " <bhNews@...> > Subject: Dear Cochlear: Cat's Outa the Bag Now-- The Press Release? > Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:00:50 -0400 > > Dear Cochlear: Cat's Outa the Bag Now-- The Press Release? - Bob Opinion > > On Saturday, June 24, it was revealed to all not in hibernation beneath > slimy rocks, in forwards of insider info, of new and exiting upgrades for N > 24 recipients to the new Freedom, rechargeable power in the next generation, > and more. > > On one list, it was reported that Cochlear's customer support lines were > being overloaded with requests for information, despite the fact that > initial reports clearly stated that all of concern would be sent information > packets at the end of July. > > The editor here expected full well to see a press release from Cochlear at > least by Monday - But it has not happened. > > The " Offical Word " ! > > So, dear Cochlear, please get off your duff and do your duty in a PR and > news insert on your websites, US and international! > > I might add that the website of AG Bell, where the announcement was made, > carried no report at all.. (Not unusual) > JMHO > > Bob > Quote
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 , Those with the Nucleus on this list hardly represent the majority worldwide. What leads you to think the same people who have voiced negative feelings about rechargables are now embracing this? LOL What is puzzling about it? Cochlear either had it planned anyway, developing efficient batteries, or they took a survey. Hmmm, they didnt ask me. Still puzzled? Speaking for myself, I still very much prefer disposables. Less chance of being caught with dead batteries. No chance of mixing up dead with recharged. No risk of losing expensive little tiny small batteries. No worry about being caught somewhere with the power out. Now of course I am not against this new feature from Cochlear. It just aint for me. LOL Still puzzled? Wonder why.... *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* Never miss a good chance to shut up. & Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie) Newport, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rclark0276@... http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ Quote
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Posted June 29, 2006 I'm not sure I understand....what does Cochlear's coming out with a rechargeable unit have to do with how much many people like having disposables?? Having rechargeables is nothing new to Cochlear. When I was first hooked up in 2000 I used the body work processor and used the rechargeable batteries. I always used the 2 battery case and would pop them into the recharger every night and then alternate pairs every day so that I would never have to bother changing a battery during the day. I thought that was great! Then I got the 3G where I could use disposables and now I think this is great! And I don't have to change anything for a good three days! Cochlear simply puts out there as much as they can for it's users to enjoy and benefit from. We all have a different hearing " fingerprint " so to speak, and all the different processing strategies, software options, and battery options (nothing new here) serve it's users quite well. In a message dated 6/28/2006 10:02:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, treasure43@... writes: Hello, I have a question....I always see people who have Cochlear brand CI's post here on this forum about how wonderful it is to have the disposable batteries for your CI, and how your lifestyles require this and how much of a pain rechargeables would be, etc, and how glad you are that your CI's don't have rechargeable batteries. So now I see that Cochlear is coming out with rechargeable batteries, and talking like that's a good thing, when I thought you guys didn't like the idea of rechargeables? It's a puzzle......... Binns Quote
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Posted June 29, 2006 I, for one, would only use rechargeables on the BTE processor, if they lasted significantly longer than the disposables I use now. I was supplied with a charger and rechargeables for the Freedom Body Worn processor. Ted F. > > Hello, > I have a question....I always see people who have Cochlear brand CI's post > here on this forum about how wonderful it is to have the disposable > batteries for your CI, and how your lifestyles require this and how much of > a pain rechargeables would be, etc, and how glad you are that your CI's > don't have rechargeable batteries. So now I see that Cochlear is coming out > with rechargeable batteries, and talking like that's a good thing, when I > thought you guys didn't like the idea of rechargeables? It's a > puzzle......... > > Binns > Quote
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Posted June 29, 2006 Hi , Well ok, I didn't understand that Cochlear already had rechargeable batteries. The way the news flash was written it appeared to be something new. Since I did my original research, to get my CI just over a year ago, I haven't really kept up. I don't remember reading that they had rechargeables, back then. Was it only for the body processor, is that is, and these that they're talking about now are for the BTE? Binns ----Original Message Follows---- From: Ci92000@... Reply- Subject: Re: Dear Cochlear: Cat's Outa the Bag Now-- The Press Release? Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 06:38:10 EDT I'm not sure I understand....what does Cochlear's coming out with a rechargeable unit have to do with how much many people like having disposables?? Having rechargeables is nothing new to Cochlear. When I was first hooked up in 2000 I used the body work processor and used the rechargeable batteries. I always used the 2 battery case and would pop them into the recharger every night and then alternate pairs every day so that I would never have to bother changing a battery during the day. I thought that was great! Then I got the 3G where I could use disposables and now I think this is great! And I don't have to change anything for a good three days! Cochlear simply puts out there as much as they can for it's users to enjoy and benefit from. We all have a different hearing " fingerprint " so to speak, and all the different processing strategies, software options, and battery options (nothing new here) serve it's users quite well. In a message dated 6/28/2006 10:02:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, treasure43@... writes: Hello, I have a question....I always see people who have Cochlear brand CI's post here on this forum about how wonderful it is to have the disposable batteries for your CI, and how your lifestyles require this and how much of a pain rechargeables would be, etc, and how glad you are that your CI's don't have rechargeable batteries. So now I see that Cochlear is coming out with rechargeable batteries, and talking like that's a good thing, when I thought you guys didn't like the idea of rechargeables? It's a puzzle......... Binns Quote
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Posted June 29, 2006 It was only for the body processor back then. I know that the Freedom body worn is very small and can use the rechargeables. I think the Freedom BTE only uses disposables but I'm not sure. Someone out there can clarify? In a message dated 6/29/2006 5:39:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, treasure43@... writes: Was it only for the body processor, is that is, and these that they're talking about now are for the BTE? Binns Quote
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Posted June 29, 2006 , It IS new...for the Nuke BTEs. The body worn has always used rechargables because those are off the shelf batteries, double A type. *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* " It's pretty hard to tell what does bring happiness; poverty and wealth have both failed. " -- Kin Hubbard & Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie) Newport, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rclark0276@... http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ Quote
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Posted June 29, 2006 , Oh, THOSE kind of rechargeables. Not particular to the CI. Now I understand. Thanks. Binns > > , > It IS new...for the Nuke BTEs. The body worn has always used > rechargables because those are off the shelf batteries, double A type. > > *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* > " It's pretty hard to tell what does bring happiness; poverty and wealth have > both failed. " > -- Kin Hubbard > & Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie) > Newport, Oregon > N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup > rclark0276@... > http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ > Quote
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Posted June 29, 2006 Hi , Well because I don't 'know' anyone with Cochlear CI's except you all, that actually discuss them. I know people that have them, but we are friends on a different level and really don't discuss our CI's much. So, what little I know about Cochlear, I know from here, so to me the Cochlear users here are representative. I have never heard anyone speak well of rechargeables on here, so that's why I thought what I did. So, I was surprised to see the news flash, and the fact that Cochlear is coming out with them, because I had never heard anything good about them, on here. So I thought no one would like them. Binns ----Original Message Follows---- From: " " <rclark0276@...> Reply- < > Subject: Re: Dear Cochlear: Cat's Outa the Bag Now-- The Press Release? Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 20:14:41 -0700 , Those with the Nucleus on this list hardly represent the majority worldwide. What leads you to think the same people who have voiced negative feelings about rechargables are now embracing this? LOL What is puzzling about it? Cochlear either had it planned anyway, developing efficient batteries, or they took a survey. Hmmm, they didnt ask me. Still puzzled? Speaking for myself, I still very much prefer disposables. Less chance of being caught with dead batteries. No chance of mixing up dead with recharged. No risk of losing expensive little tiny small batteries. No worry about being caught somewhere with the power out. Now of course I am not against this new feature from Cochlear. It just aint for me. LOL Still puzzled? Wonder why.... *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* Never miss a good chance to shut up. & Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie) Newport, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rclark0276@... http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ Quote
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Posted June 29, 2006 Hi , Don't forget that outside of the US many of us have to pay for our batteries out of pocket and don't get the money back from the insurance company. Disposable batteries here in Australia are expensive and if it was not for the fact that I am able to order cheap batteries from the US I would be most likely be using the bodyworn with rechargeables to save money. I would have been very happy to have seen rechargeable BTE batteries. Also Cochlear is breaking into some new worldwide markets in a big way such as China where disposable income is much lower than in the West. It could be that they are responding to the needs and concerns of those people in those markets rather than the mob here on this list. Just some possible thoughts? Severe/profoundly deaf since birth Lost residual hearing October 2005 Approved for CI March 2006 Surgery 9th June 2006 Activation 29th June 2006 _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Binns Sent: Friday, 30 June 2006 12:42 PM Subject: Re: Dear Cochlear: Cat's Outa the Bag Now-- The Press Release? Hi , Well because I don't 'know' anyone with Cochlear CI's except you all, that actually discuss them. I know people that have them, but we are friends on a different level and really don't discuss our CI's much. So, what little I know about Cochlear, I know from here, so to me the Cochlear users here are representative. I have never heard anyone speak well of rechargeables on here, so that's why I thought what I did. So, I was surprised to see the news flash, and the fact that Cochlear is coming out with them, because I had never heard anything good about them, on here. So I thought no one would like them. Binns ----Original Message Follows---- From: " " <rclark0276charter (DOT) <mailto:rclark0276%40charter.net> net> Reply-groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com <groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com> Subject: Re: Dear Cochlear: Cat's Outa the Bag Now-- The Press Release? Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 20:14:41 -0700 , Those with the Nucleus on this list hardly represent the majority worldwide. What leads you to think the same people who have voiced negative feelings about rechargables are now embracing this? LOL What is puzzling about it? Cochlear either had it planned anyway, developing efficient batteries, or they took a survey. Hmmm, they didnt ask me. Still puzzled? Speaking for myself, I still very much prefer disposables. Less chance of being caught with dead batteries. No chance of mixing up dead with recharged. No risk of losing expensive little tiny small batteries. No worry about being caught somewhere with the power out. Now of course I am not against this new feature from Cochlear. It just aint for me. LOL Still puzzled? Wonder why.... *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* Never miss a good chance to shut up. & Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie) Newport, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rclark0276charter (DOT) <mailto:rclark0276%40charter.net> net http://webpages. <http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/> charter.net/dog_guide/ __________ NOD32 1.1633 (20060629) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Quote
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Posted June 29, 2006 How did the switch-on go, ? Ted F. > > > > > > > Severe/profoundly deaf since birth > > Lost residual hearing October 2005 > > Approved for CI March 2006 > > Surgery 9th June 2006 > > Activation 29th June 2006 > Quote
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Posted June 30, 2006 , Those who did not like them still dont. LOLOL But there may well be others who do and welcome the move that Cochlear made. *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* My girlfriend does her nails with white-out. When she's asleep, I go over there and write misspelled words on them. & Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie) Newport, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rclark0276@... http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ Quote
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Posted June 30, 2006 , I may have posted before you joined this list that I preferred the BWP to the 3G and think nothing of using the BWP's rechargeable batteries. Quote
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