Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Sylvia, You aren't doing anything " wrong. " You are healing. This period of time is just for healing - and not for weightloss. Any weight loss you DO have is a bonus. This is a journey - not a race. Concentrate on healing your tummy and put the scales away. They will drive you crazy. -- Liz Grigorian http://lap-band.blogspot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 I just got banded by Dr. Aceves on Friday the 3rd. Things are going pretty well. The left shoulder pain was getting to me, but that seems to have eased up. Now I have something else I want to ask all of you about - it's a little embarrassing, but here goes. It started lasts night; I felt like I had to pass gas but I had diarrhea. It happened again this morning. Is this something that will go away? How did others deal with it - if anyone else had this problem. I was just glad that I had been home from Mexicali for about an hour when it happened and it didn't happen on the airplane. Thanks for any advice on this touchy subject - I knew you guys would understand! Kristi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Welcome! Some docs do allow full liquids within a few days, as long as they are thinned enough to get thru a straw. The apple sauce and yogurt would both be ok if thinned. The purpose of the liquids for a few weeks is not that we cannot physically eat and tolerate more solid foods, but that any solids require the stomach to churn nd grind to digest them, and this movement disrupts the secure healing tht will help determine the life of your band. People have varying levels of pain - if yours isn't controlled well, do ask for better meds. We have a right to be pain-free, especially as this allows us to be up and active most of the day - and this essential to prevent post-op complications and speed healing. do be sure that any meds you take from banding on, are cut up smaller than an aspirin or are liquids. Larger will not get thru the stoma, especially later after fills. also please be sure to wash all meds carefully thru the ppuch with a full glass of fluid, and don't take any meds within an hour of bedtime. All these are basic band rules to protect the pouch/stoma and prevent trouble. more on all this in the Band Guide in the files. Shellfish can be tough to chew well enough, since they are rubbery. but if they are carefully minced into clam chowder, for instance, they can be fine. I also love sushi, and just choose pieces wit soft fish and veggies, and forget the sticky , useless rice. You might love sushi and raw oysters, but PROMISE you will love being thinner and having no band trouble even more!! I always chuckle a bit when someone says " But CAN'T give up...(pepsi? fried chicken?).. " Really? You'd rather stay fat, disabled, and die early? Pepsi is more important than living longer wih your family? That, to me, helps put things into the right prespective. :-) most people can eat most things if they chew very well and start with pea-sized bites. But many things jut are not good band foods, and we should minimize or eliminate them if we're serious about weight loss...as i hope we all are. Lettuce is not good band food - no healthy calories, no fiber, no vits to speak of, and mostly water. remember, we are never trying to eat as little as possible. We're trying tom eat WELL, and good nutrition, and ENOUGH good calories to lose well. I bet all of us at a ton of lettuce - yet, here we are, needing banding. Eating Lettuce clearly did not work! let's learn and eat better things now! The salad " fixings " are fine, though - the cheese, poultry, beans, fruit, veggies, sprouts, etc. I often order a Chef Salad when i'm out, and simply eat all the good stuff and only a bite or two of the lettuce itself. Please don't be afraid to eat. We should be able to et normally, once we are healed from surgery - and we should never have pain, frquesnt barfing (more than 1-2x a month, max, imo0 or any ongoing trouble. we're jus eating less, and choosing healthier foods. Glad you're here! Sandy r i As far as sushi and > > > > > Hi All, > > > > Welcome Sparkie (or if you'd rather be called or Sam or > > Brunhilde, let us know). > > > > > I was banded last week 2/7 in Everett, WA but live in Northern > Idaho. I > > > don't know anyone who has been banded so I thought to look > online. I am > > > still in a bit of pain although I imagine that is to be expected. > I > > > > Pain in shoulders is normal, and walking will help to relieve it. > > Avoid ibuprofen, aspirin, or other NSAIDs. Tylenol works. And if the > > doc gave you any " heavy drugs " that's up to you. > > > > > have to say that I am almost too scared to eat. I am doing the > jello, > > > yogurt, applesauce, and soup thing. I sometimes don't know if I am > > > > Wow....most docs have you on liquids for a couple weeks, though some > > would allow clear soups or maybe other light creamy soups. Most > won't > > allow applesauce or yogurt this early. But each doc is different, so > > do what yours says. Who is your doc? > > > > > hungry or not and when I am convinced that I am hungry I don't > know how > > > much I can eat so I wind up making a bowl of soup and will eat 4 > > > spoonfulls every hour. > > > > Main thing is to get in LOTS of fluids. At least two quarts a day, > > preferably. Have water bottle with you and just keep hitting it. > Three > > quarts is even better. Yeah, you'll get some exercise too, going > down > > the hall to the toilet all the time. > > > > Hope those soups don't have any chunks or lumps in them. > > > > > Too scared to eat too much and either make the > > > band slip or hurt myself. A lot of new learning heading my way it > > > > As long as you stick to fluids you'll be fine. They go right through > > like water thru a funnel. The lumps are what stop it up, and hope > > you're not having any lumps. > > > > Many of us have trouble with yogurt or applesauce or other seemingly > > easy things, even after years. I had banana the other night, > something > > nice and soft, right? After not even half of it I almost had it > stuck. > > It is hard to really chew up banana, but it is fibrous and gets > stuck > > easily. > > > > > seems. With week 2 coming up I am becoming more nervous but can't > wait > > > to have some real food like Halibut. Any and all advice would be > > > welcome. > > > > It is all a real learning experience. You'll do fine, I'm sure. Just > > do NOT rush anything. Even if the doc says you CAN have something it > > doesn't mean you HAVE to if it is a problem for you. > > > > You'll have LOTS of new habits to learn. > > > > Oh, halibut. Love it, but many have trouble with it since it is > > relatively " solid " and " tough " and " stringy " . I sure wouldn't have > it > > as my first fish, as it too is really hard to break up the fibers > into > > itty bitty pieces that won't get stuck. > > > > I can eat it, but only very carefully. I've learned to give up the > > shellfish I love, like clams and oysters. You just can't really chew > > them up to nothing (or at least I can't). > > > > You'll also learn that we're all different. Many of us can't eat > > bread, but some can. Same for anything else. Part of that depends on > > how things are cooked, whether they're sauced, how high of quality > the > > meat or veggies are, etc. > > > > cheers > > > > dan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 i had no problem with shellfish early on when i started eating solids, but i chewed them like crazy. i still have shrimp. but i didnt have solid food for almost 6 weeks. just fluids -- clear and a bit of creamy. but no yogurt or applesauce. i had a bit of sushi but the rice is the problem. i have no trouble with bread (darn, i wish i did) but i keep telling myself that i do so i dont eat it. i try not to keep it in the house, and only eat a bit when i get to restaurants. i just passed my year anniversary. it has become so much a part of my life, but when i first started i thought it never would. hang in there. At 03:07 PM 2/11/2008, you wrote: >My friends call me Sparkie or Liz (217 upside down is LIZ), I answer >to just about anything though..... the Doc gave me Ibuprofen but it >doesn't seem to work, he also gave me Lortab or Hydrocodone which >only lasts three hours. I will try Tylenol. I only take the >Hydrocodone when I am trying to go to sleep for the night. My doc is > Montgomery in Everett, WA www.nwwls.com. The applesauce and >yogurt is plain, no chunks in the soup either. Everything is pretty >much able to slide right down. >You have just made me very depressed, I love shellfish, especially >raw oysters. I also love sushi, oh well, sacrifices right? >For week two they said anything I could mush with a fork and they >mentioned Halibut which you think may be a bit difficult, any advice >on what may be good for week two? I never had to give so much thought >to food before...... > >How will you know if you have eaten something you shouldn't? Will it >be painful, is there a specific sensation or feeling that will tell >you that you just did a bad thing? I am not into pain and would like >to avoid any more pain if possible. > >I hear salads can be difficult too. > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > Welcome Sparkie (or if you'd rather be called or Sam or > > Brunhilde, let us know). > > > > > I was banded last week 2/7 in Everett, WA but live in Northern >Idaho. I > > > don't know anyone who has been banded so I thought to look >online. I am > > > still in a bit of pain although I imagine that is to be expected. >I > > > > Pain in shoulders is normal, and walking will help to relieve it. > > Avoid ibuprofen, aspirin, or other NSAIDs. Tylenol works. And if the > > doc gave you any " heavy drugs " that's up to you. > > > > > have to say that I am almost too scared to eat. I am doing the >jello, > > > yogurt, applesauce, and soup thing. I sometimes don't know if I am > > > > Wow....most docs have you on liquids for a couple weeks, though some > > would allow clear soups or maybe other light creamy soups. Most >won't > > allow applesauce or yogurt this early. But each doc is different, so > > do what yours says. Who is your doc? > > > > > hungry or not and when I am convinced that I am hungry I don't >know how > > > much I can eat so I wind up making a bowl of soup and will eat 4 > > > spoonfulls every hour. > > > > Main thing is to get in LOTS of fluids. At least two quarts a day, > > preferably. Have water bottle with you and just keep hitting it. >Three > > quarts is even better. Yeah, you'll get some exercise too, going >down > > the hall to the toilet all the time. > > > > Hope those soups don't have any chunks or lumps in them. > > > > > Too scared to eat too much and either make the > > > band slip or hurt myself. A lot of new learning heading my way it > > > > As long as you stick to fluids you'll be fine. They go right through > > like water thru a funnel. The lumps are what stop it up, and hope > > you're not having any lumps. > > > > Many of us have trouble with yogurt or applesauce or other seemingly > > easy things, even after years. I had banana the other night, >something > > nice and soft, right? After not even half of it I almost had it >stuck. > > It is hard to really chew up banana, but it is fibrous and gets >stuck > > easily. > > > > > seems. With week 2 coming up I am becoming more nervous but can't >wait > > > to have some real food like Halibut. Any and all advice would be > > > welcome. > > > > It is all a real learning experience. You'll do fine, I'm sure. Just > > do NOT rush anything. Even if the doc says you CAN have something it > > doesn't mean you HAVE to if it is a problem for you. > > > > You'll have LOTS of new habits to learn. > > > > Oh, halibut. Love it, but many have trouble with it since it is > > relatively " solid " and " tough " and " stringy " . I sure wouldn't have >it > > as my first fish, as it too is really hard to break up the fibers >into > > itty bitty pieces that won't get stuck. > > > > I can eat it, but only very carefully. I've learned to give up the > > shellfish I love, like clams and oysters. You just can't really chew > > them up to nothing (or at least I can't). > > > > You'll also learn that we're all different. Many of us can't eat > > bread, but some can. Same for anything else. Part of that depends on > > how things are cooked, whether they're sauced, how high of quality >the > > meat or veggies are, etc. > > > > cheers > > > > dan > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Hi there Sparkie, I was just banded on 1/31/08. Before my surgery, I ordered about 5 books. In my opinion, I found two with great recipes....thought I would share. " Eating Well After Weight Loss Surgery " by Levine and Bontempo-Saray " Recipes for Life After Weigh-Loss Surgery " by Furtado What I liked about both books is the recipes are pretty easy to follow and not a lot of hard to find ingredients. They also describe what consistancy and how much to eat depending your WLS and where you are at time wise. The recipes can also be enjoyed by non-banders and the food is good for them. I hope you enjoy, I purchased them both on Amazon. Hugs to all, Shari 244/230/144 > > I can't wait to be skinny again. I don't mind giving up the foods that > were bad for me. The woman who did my psych eval mentioned that she > tried to have a soda after about 6 months of being banded and she hit > the floor thinking she was having a heart attack. I know I will be > staying away from carbonated beverages, that just sounds too painful. > My husband says I will have to try sashimi instead of sushi. I wish > there was a band cookbook or something similar to help us new people on > our way. I just can't wait for the day when there is no more pain and I > know what and how much I can eat!! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Dan, perhaps if you really like halibut and other fishes that are hard to chew, you may be able to hire someone to chew it up for you. so don't say i don't have good ideas. george > > > Hi All, > > Welcome Sparkie (or if you'd rather be called or Sam or > Brunhilde, let us know). > > > I was banded last week 2/7 in Everett, WA but live in Northern Idaho. I > > don't know anyone who has been banded so I thought to look online. I am > > still in a bit of pain although I imagine that is to be expected. I > > Pain in shoulders is normal, and walking will help to relieve it. > Avoid ibuprofen, aspirin, or other NSAIDs. Tylenol works. And if the > doc gave you any " heavy drugs " that's up to you. > > > have to say that I am almost too scared to eat. I am doing the jello, > > yogurt, applesauce, and soup thing. I sometimes don't know if I am > > Wow....most docs have you on liquids for a couple weeks, though some > would allow clear soups or maybe other light creamy soups. Most won't > allow applesauce or yogurt this early. But each doc is different, so > do what yours says. Who is your doc? > > > hungry or not and when I am convinced that I am hungry I don't know how > > much I can eat so I wind up making a bowl of soup and will eat 4 > > spoonfulls every hour. > > Main thing is to get in LOTS of fluids. At least two quarts a day, > preferably. Have water bottle with you and just keep hitting it. Three > quarts is even better. Yeah, you'll get some exercise too, going down > the hall to the toilet all the time. > > Hope those soups don't have any chunks or lumps in them. > > > Too scared to eat too much and either make the > > band slip or hurt myself. A lot of new learning heading my way it > > As long as you stick to fluids you'll be fine. They go right through > like water thru a funnel. The lumps are what stop it up, and hope > you're not having any lumps. > > Many of us have trouble with yogurt or applesauce or other seemingly > easy things, even after years. I had banana the other night, something > nice and soft, right? After not even half of it I almost had it stuck. > It is hard to really chew up banana, but it is fibrous and gets stuck > easily. > > > seems. With week 2 coming up I am becoming more nervous but can't wait > > to have some real food like Halibut. Any and all advice would be > > welcome. > > It is all a real learning experience. You'll do fine, I'm sure. Just > do NOT rush anything. Even if the doc says you CAN have something it > doesn't mean you HAVE to if it is a problem for you. > > You'll have LOTS of new habits to learn. > > Oh, halibut. Love it, but many have trouble with it since it is > relatively " solid " and " tough " and " stringy " . I sure wouldn't have it > as my first fish, as it too is really hard to break up the fibers into > itty bitty pieces that won't get stuck. > > I can eat it, but only very carefully. I've learned to give up the > shellfish I love, like clams and oysters. You just can't really chew > them up to nothing (or at least I can't). > > You'll also learn that we're all different. Many of us can't eat > bread, but some can. Same for anything else. Part of that depends on > how things are cooked, whether they're sauced, how high of quality the > meat or veggies are, etc. > > cheers > > dan > > -- > " It's OK to be a little broken, everybody's broken in this life " Jon Bon Jovi > Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA www.mylapband.tk > Banded 4/27/03, Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana > Started at 355, at goal in the 210-220 range for almost 4 years > Ultimate goal of 195 Tummytuck in Boise and SmartLipo in Tijuana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 You may never know how much you can eat, as it can vary so much day to day and hour to hour. Most important is learning when to stop, and to avoid liquid calories. As to sushi and sashimi, I can eat most of the fish/etc in the rolls, etc, but I've learned VERY well not to even think about the sticky rice. As to cookbook, there are a million health recipes on the web, and in cookbooks. Just learn what to avoid, which may be different for you than it is for me. There is a bandster recipes group that you can track down if you feel the need. Monday, February 11, 2008, 2:54:58 PM, you wrote: > I know I will be > staying away from carbonated beverages, that just sounds too painful. > My husband says I will have to try sashimi instead of sushi. -- " It's OK to be a little broken, everybody's broken in this life " Jon Bon Jovi Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA www.mylapband.tk Banded 4/27/03, Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana Started at 355, at goal in the 210-220 range for almost 4 years Ultimate goal of 195 Tummytuck in Boise and SmartLipo in Tijuana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Gee, I saw that on SNL, too. Oh, I could probably chew them enough, and have on occasion, so it isn't laziness, just rather choose something that is easier to eat that I love just as much. Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 6:49:38 AM, you wrote: > perhaps if you really like halibut and other fishes that are hard to > chew, you may be able to hire someone to chew it up for you. so don't > say i don't have good ideas. -- " It's OK to be a little broken, everybody's broken in this life " Jon Bon Jovi Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA www.mylapband.tk Banded 4/27/03, Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana Started at 355, at goal in the 210-220 range for almost 4 years Ultimate goal of 195 Tummytuck in Boise and SmartLipo in Tijuana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Or maybe not: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/AIDS/wireStory?id=4251250 Darlene (KURI) 6-12-07 > > Dan, > > perhaps if you really like halibut and other fishes that are hard to > chew, you may be able to hire someone to chew it up for you. so don't > say i don't have good ideas. > > george > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 > > > > Dan, > > > > perhaps if you really like halibut and other fishes that are hard to > > chew, you may be able to hire someone to chew it up for you. so > don't > > say i don't have good ideas. > > > > george > > > >thats really disgusting > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 I too chose NWWLS for a reason and have been following their instructions. I start week 2 tomorrow so I am excited to get off the liquids and onto some other interesting things. I didn't realize their was a helpline, thank you, I called them for the number so I have it now. I must have missed that part of the instructions... Thanks!! > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > Welcome Sparkie (or if you'd rather be called or Sam or > > > Brunhilde, let us know). > > > > > > > I was banded last week 2/7 in Everett, WA but live in Northern > >Idaho. I > > > > don't know anyone who has been banded so I thought to look > >online. I am > > > > still in a bit of pain although I imagine that is to be expected. > >I > > > > > > Pain in shoulders is normal, and walking will help to relieve it. > > > Avoid ibuprofen, aspirin, or other NSAIDs. Tylenol works. And if the > > > doc gave you any " heavy drugs " that's up to you. > > > > > > > have to say that I am almost too scared to eat. I am doing the > >jello, > > > > yogurt, applesauce, and soup thing. I sometimes don't know if I am > > > > > > Wow....most docs have you on liquids for a couple weeks, though some > > > would allow clear soups or maybe other light creamy soups. Most > >won't > > > allow applesauce or yogurt this early. But each doc is different, so > > > do what yours says. Who is your doc? > > > > > > > hungry or not and when I am convinced that I am hungry I don't > >know how > > > > much I can eat so I wind up making a bowl of soup and will eat 4 > > > > spoonfulls every hour. > > > > > > Main thing is to get in LOTS of fluids. At least two quarts a day, > > > preferably. Have water bottle with you and just keep hitting it. > >Three > > > quarts is even better. Yeah, you'll get some exercise too, going > >down > > > the hall to the toilet all the time. > > > > > > Hope those soups don't have any chunks or lumps in them. > > > > > > > Too scared to eat too much and either make the > > > > band slip or hurt myself. A lot of new learning heading my way it > > > > > > As long as you stick to fluids you'll be fine. They go right through > > > like water thru a funnel. The lumps are what stop it up, and hope > > > you're not having any lumps. > > > > > > Many of us have trouble with yogurt or applesauce or other seemingly > > > easy things, even after years. I had banana the other night, > >something > > > nice and soft, right? After not even half of it I almost had it > >stuck. > > > It is hard to really chew up banana, but it is fibrous and gets > >stuck > > > easily. > > > > > > > seems. With week 2 coming up I am becoming more nervous but can't > >wait > > > > to have some real food like Halibut. Any and all advice would be > > > > welcome. > > > > > > It is all a real learning experience. You'll do fine, I'm sure. Just > > > do NOT rush anything. Even if the doc says you CAN have something it > > > doesn't mean you HAVE to if it is a problem for you. > > > > > > You'll have LOTS of new habits to learn. > > > > > > Oh, halibut. Love it, but many have trouble with it since it is > > > relatively " solid " and " tough " and " stringy " . I sure wouldn't have > >it > > > as my first fish, as it too is really hard to break up the fibers > >into > > > itty bitty pieces that won't get stuck. > > > > > > I can eat it, but only very carefully. I've learned to give up the > > > shellfish I love, like clams and oysters. You just can't really chew > > > them up to nothing (or at least I can't). > > > > > > You'll also learn that we're all different. Many of us can't eat > > > bread, but some can. Same for anything else. Part of that depends on > > > how things are cooked, whether they're sauced, how high of quality > >the > > > meat or veggies are, etc. > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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