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> Is having your wisdom teeth out considered root canals? I had all my

> wisdom teeth out in '87 and I was very sick for three weeks

> afterwards. Then I had lingering jaw pain for months. I guessed

> then that I had a bad reaction to the anesthesia, but maybe it was

> more than that, a bone infection??? Would a panoramic x-ray help me

> find problems from the wisdom teeth area??

>

You need to be checked with a Cavitat Machine for 'cavitations', often found

in the jaws where wisdom teeth have been extracted and teeth where amalgams

have been placed (especially with gold crowns over).

<A HREF= " www.cavitat.com " >www.cavitat.com</A>

<A HREF= " www.dentalhelp.org " >www.dentalhelp.org</A>

I met the guy who invented this machine a couple of weeks ago, my dentist

being the first in the UK to have one of these machines - he was here to set up

and train him. Fascinating and scarey at the same time....................

HTH

Mandi in UK

With cavitations where wisdom teeth extracted and more...............but not

as bad as it could have been :)

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A dental pro on a panoramic xray will be able to find jaw infections and

residual amalgam burrs.

There can be a lot of residual health problems post teeth removal and

particularly with the crap in root canals.

>From: jules ferris <JFerris@...>

>Reply-

> , adult-metal-chelation

>Subject: [ ] dental questions

>Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 02:53:13 -0400

>

>wheeee....my power just went back on!

>

>I organised all my supplements and came back a day early from a trip

>to have my amalgams out - when I got to the dentist, it turns out he

>had emergency surgery and couldn't see me. So maybe this is a

>blessing in disguise, i think i am going to order the Huggins

>nutritional program to see what they have to offer.

>

>Is having your wisdom teeth out considered root canals? I had all my

>wisdom teeth out in '87 and I was very sick for three weeks

>afterwards. Then I had lingering jaw pain for months. I guessed

>then that I had a bad reaction to the anesthesia, but maybe it was

>more than that, a bone infection??? Would a panoramic x-ray help me

>find problems from the wisdom teeth area??

>

>Thanks,

>--

>

>Health * Peace * Love * 4Ever

>

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thanks, I'll try to get one done.

>A dental pro on a panoramic xray will be able to find jaw infections and

>residual amalgam burrs.

>There can be a lot of residual health problems post teeth removal and

>particularly with the crap in root canals.

>

>

>>From: jules ferris <JFerris@...>

>>Reply-

>> , adult-metal-chelation

>>Subject: [ ] dental questions

>>Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 02:53:13 -0400

>>

>>wheeee....my power just went back on!

>>

>>I organised all my supplements and came back a day early from a trip

>>to have my amalgams out - when I got to the dentist, it turns out he

>>had emergency surgery and couldn't see me. So maybe this is a

>>blessing in disguise, i think i am going to order the Huggins

>>nutritional program to see what they have to offer.

>>

>>Is having your wisdom teeth out considered root canals? I had all my

>>wisdom teeth out in '87 and I was very sick for three weeks

>>afterwards. Then I had lingering jaw pain for months. I guessed

>>then that I had a bad reaction to the anesthesia, but maybe it was

>>more than that, a bone infection??? Would a panoramic x-ray help me

>>find problems from the wisdom teeth area??

>>

> >Thanks,

--

Health * Peace * Love * 4Ever

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The first set of 6 year molars are permanent. They grow in, in the back, so

no teeth are lost first.

I think there are 12 year old molars too. My son is 8 and his 6 year molars

are totally in, and his dentist advised he have them sealed. I am not sure

about it. She says the type she uses does not have fluoride in it. Some

brands do, so watch out for that.

I would love to know the answer, of whether they are safe or not.

Fillings are not sealants. He must have cavities. I am glad she is using

composite materials. That would be good. Don't let them put in amalgams. My

sons dentist uses a laser on cavities for kids. That way no numbing is

necessary. Luckily we have never needed it, but I wish my own dentist used

it.

nne

[ ] dental questions

Hello all. We just got back from the dentist. My son needs 2 WHITE

FILLINGS in his molars. He is almost 10 and still has a few primary

teeth. Do we only get 1 set of molars? I thought all baby teeth would

be replaced with permanent teeth. If this is true, then the molars

are primary teeth. Why fill them now? What age do permanent molars

come in? Are white fillings the same as sealants? Are sealants bad

for our kids? Is laughing gas and novacaine bad for our kids? We

chelate my son using Andy's protocol with ALA and supplements. Thanks

in advance. Tina in NY

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You actually get three sets of permanent molars...At 6 yrs., at 12

yrs., and then when your wisdom teeth come in (which varies greatly).

Sealants are to prevent decay, whereas fillings are placed after

decay has occured.

I would not use nitrous oxide(laughing gas). I don't believe it is

safe at all. Using it when you are pregnant can cause a spontaneous

abortion. So if it affects a growing baby that way, you know it can

hurt a growing child.

You should ask your dentist if he/she uses air abrasion for early

decay. This can be used in place of the drill if the decay isn't

deep. And most of the time no lidocaine is needed.

I don't know if sealants are bad, I have heard conflicting ideas on

this. For placing sealants, first you apply an acid etchant, then

apply the sealant (a liquid resin), then harden it with a curing

light. If placed properly and KEPT DRY while being applied I have

seen them do their job at preventing decay. And on the flip side, I

have seen them fall off because they weren't kept dry during

placement. And I have also seen dentists place sealants on teeth

that I know had very small decay on them. That ticks me off

because then the decay grows and then a larger filling has to be

placed on the tooth than would have if initially a filling was done

instead of a sealant.

HTH,

> Hello all. We just got back from the dentist. My son needs 2 WHITE

> FILLINGS in his molars. He is almost 10 and still has a few

primary

> teeth. Do we only get 1 set of molars? I thought all baby teeth

would

> be replaced with permanent teeth. If this is true, then the molars

> are primary teeth. Why fill them now? What age do permanent molars

> come in? Are white fillings the same as sealants? Are sealants bad

> for our kids? Is laughing gas and novacaine bad for our kids? We

> chelate my son using Andy's protocol with ALA and supplements.

Thanks

> in advance. Tina in NY

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> Hello all. We just got back from the dentist. My son needs 2 WHITE

> FILLINGS in his molars. He is almost 10 and still has a few primary

> teeth. Do we only get 1 set of molars? I thought all baby teeth

would

> be replaced with permanent teeth. If this is true, then the molars

> are primary teeth. Why fill them now? What age do permanent molars

> come in? Are white fillings the same as sealants? Are sealants bad

> for our kids? Is laughing gas and novacaine bad for our kids? We

> chelate my son using Andy's protocol with ALA and supplements.

Thanks

> in advance. Tina in NY

Composite fillings are estrogenic - not a good thing. We get

bombarded with numerous estrogenic chemicals from PCBs and dioxin to

various plastics to synthetic hormones in factory farmed animal

products. These estrogenic chemicals disrupt the endocrine system. I

read one site stating that one composite filling gives your body

about the dose of estrogen in 500 hormone therapy treatments. There

was no citation for that figure though, so I'd take it with a grain

of salt.

Suze

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> Composite fillings are estrogenic - not a good thing. We get

> bombarded with numerous estrogenic chemicals from PCBs and dioxin

to

> various plastics to synthetic hormones in factory farmed animal

> products. These estrogenic chemicals disrupt the endocrine system.

I

> read one site stating that one composite filling gives your body

> about the dose of estrogen in 500 hormone therapy treatments.

There

> was no citation for that figure though, so I'd take it with a

grain

> of salt.

>

> Suze

Are you aware of any BETTER material for fillings?

Gold maybe? (I'm serious)

Moria

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> > Composite fillings are estrogenic - not a good thing. We get

> > bombarded with numerous estrogenic chemicals from PCBs and dioxin

> to

> > various plastics to synthetic hormones in factory farmed animal

> > products. These estrogenic chemicals disrupt the endocrine

system.

> I

> > read one site stating that one composite filling gives your body

> > about the dose of estrogen in 500 hormone therapy treatments.

> There

> > was no citation for that figure though, so I'd take it with a

> grain

> > of salt.

> >

> > Suze

>

> Are you aware of any BETTER material for fillings?

> Gold maybe? (I'm serious)

>

> Moria

According to Hal Huggins, the material that the least number of

people react to is 84% 24 karat gold and 16% palladium combined,

IIRC. But that's based solely on allergic/immune reactions, and

doesn't provide a complete picture of its health effects (ie;

estrogenicity, disruption of meridians, electrical current, etc).

Other than that, no, I'm not aware of any better material for

fillings other than one's own natural bone (I'm serious :-). There's

the possibility of regrowing your own tooth/teeth, which some folks

have actually done. Weston Price, DDS, was able to remineralize teeth

using a combo of cod liver oil and high vitamin butter oil

(centrifuged raw butter from grass-fed cows). I think milk was a part

of his protocol as well. I imagine this would be hard to do for the

average SADer due to lack of necessary dietary minerals and co-

factors, and might be difficult with deep cavaties. I have half a

mind to try it with one of my shallower cavaties though. I've read

testimonials of some folks who have done this in recent years.

Suze

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Weston Price, DDS, was able to remineralize teeth

> using a combo of cod liver oil and high vitamin butter oil

> (centrifuged raw butter from grass-fed cows). I think milk was a

part

> of his protocol as well.

Wow...that needs to be qualified. Price used RAW milk from grass-fed

cows - the sludge sold as " milk " in supermarkets can NOT be

substituted!

http://www.realmilk.com

http://www.drrons.com/raw_milk.html

http://www.rawmilk.org/

http://www.seedsofhealth.co.uk/articles/case_for_untreated_milk.shtml

Suze (raw milk consumer and proponent)

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> According to Hal Huggins, the material that the least number of

> people react to is 84% 24 karat gold and 16% palladium combined,

> IIRC. But that's based solely on allergic/immune reactions, and

> doesn't provide a complete picture of its health effects (ie;

> estrogenicity, disruption of meridians, electrical current, etc).

>

> Other than that, no, I'm not aware of any better material for

> fillings other than one's own natural bone (I'm serious :-).

There's

> the possibility of regrowing your own tooth/teeth, which some

folks

> have actually done.

yeah, I've read a few obscure references to such things.

There is currently a method used by dentists [--mostly

in the UK and NOT available AT ALL in the US--] that

uses ozone to clean the cavity and then uses time

and some minerals in mouthwash to remineralize teeth.

Apparently this works. I have been wondering at what

point I would post about it here--- I know some about

it but really kinda shallow knowledge. For people in

UK (and I guess a FEW other places) it is a good thing

to know. I think there are a couple dentists in Canada

also doing this (near Toronto and I think I recall one

in Vancouver?)

Moria

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> > According to Hal Huggins, the material that the least number of

> > people react to is 84% 24 karat gold and 16% palladium combined,

> > IIRC. But that's based solely on allergic/immune reactions, and

> > doesn't provide a complete picture of its health effects (ie;

> > estrogenicity, disruption of meridians, electrical current, etc).

> >

> > Other than that, no, I'm not aware of any better material for

> > fillings other than one's own natural bone (I'm serious :-).

> There's

> > the possibility of regrowing your own tooth/teeth, which some

> folks

> > have actually done.

>

> yeah, I've read a few obscure references to such things.

> There is currently a method used by dentists [--mostly

> in the UK and NOT available AT ALL in the US--] that

> uses ozone to clean the cavity and then uses time

> and some minerals in mouthwash to remineralize teeth.

> Apparently this works. I have been wondering at what

> point I would post about it here--- I know some about

> it but really kinda shallow knowledge. For people in

> UK (and I guess a FEW other places) it is a good thing

> to know. I think there are a couple dentists in Canada

> also doing this (near Toronto and I think I recall one

> in Vancouver?)

>

Dunno, never heard of this method. Sounds similar to Price's but his

protocol was strictly dietary, I believe. And can be done *anywhere*

as long as you have access to good quality CLO, high vitamin butter

oil (which can be ordered directly from the farmer at

http://www.greenpasture.org/) and quality raw milk. I doubt most

people have the inclination and commitment to do this though.

Suze

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Make sure they're metal-free fillings. I've heard some " white " fillings contain

aluminum.

S

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<BR>

> Hello all. We just got back from the dentist. My son needs 2 WHITE <BR>

> FILLINGS in his molars. He is almost 10 and still has a few primary <BR>

> teeth. Do we only get 1 set of molars? I thought all baby teeth <BR>

would <BR>

> be replaced with permanent teeth. If this is true, then the molars <BR>

> are primary teeth. Why fill them now? What age do permanent molars <BR>

> come in? Are white fillings the same as sealants? Are sealants bad <BR>

> for our kids? Is laughing gas and novacaine bad for our kids? We <BR>

> chelate my son using Andy's protocol with ALA and supplements. <BR>

Thanks <BR>

> in advance. Tina in NY<BR>

<BR>

Composite fillings are estrogenic - not a good thing. We get <BR>

bombarded with numerous estrogenic chemicals from PCBs and dioxin to <BR>

various plastics to synthetic hormones in factory farmed animal <BR>

products. These estrogenic chemicals disrupt the endocrine system. I <BR>

read one site stating that one composite filling gives your body <BR>

about the dose of estrogen in 500 hormone therapy treatments. There <BR>

was no citation for that figure though, so I'd take it with a grain <BR>

of salt.<BR>

<BR>

Suze<BR>

<BR>

But <BR>

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Hi:

My 4yo son is going to the dentist next week and really needs to get his teeth

clean, alot of plaque buildup, what is a good, safe way to sedate him for this

cleaning. Thanks

Jean

mprdh2004 <justice9999@...> wrote:

You actually get three sets of permanent molars...At 6 yrs., at 12

yrs., and then when your wisdom teeth come in (which varies greatly).

Sealants are to prevent decay, whereas fillings are placed after

decay has occured.

I would not use nitrous oxide(laughing gas). I don't believe it is

safe at all. Using it when you are pregnant can cause a spontaneous

abortion. So if it affects a growing baby that way, you know it can

hurt a growing child.

You should ask your dentist if he/she uses air abrasion for early

decay. This can be used in place of the drill if the decay isn't

deep. And most of the time no lidocaine is needed.

I don't know if sealants are bad, I have heard conflicting ideas on

this. For placing sealants, first you apply an acid etchant, then

apply the sealant (a liquid resin), then harden it with a curing

light. If placed properly and KEPT DRY while being applied I have

seen them do their job at preventing decay. And on the flip side, I

have seen them fall off because they weren't kept dry during

placement. And I have also seen dentists place sealants on teeth

that I know had very small decay on them. That ticks me off

because then the decay grows and then a larger filling has to be

placed on the tooth than would have if initially a filling was done

instead of a sealant.

HTH,

> Hello all. We just got back from the dentist. My son needs 2 WHITE

> FILLINGS in his molars. He is almost 10 and still has a few

primary

> teeth. Do we only get 1 set of molars? I thought all baby teeth

would

> be replaced with permanent teeth. If this is true, then the molars

> are primary teeth. Why fill them now? What age do permanent molars

> come in? Are white fillings the same as sealants? Are sealants bad

> for our kids? Is laughing gas and novacaine bad for our kids? We

> chelate my son using Andy's protocol with ALA and supplements.

Thanks

> in advance. Tina in NY

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> > > Other than that, no, I'm not aware of any better material for

> > > fillings other than one's own natural bone (I'm serious :-).

> > There's

> > > the possibility of regrowing your own tooth/teeth, which some

> > folks

> > > have actually done.

> >

> > yeah, I've read a few obscure references to such things.

> > There is currently a method used by dentists [--mostly

> > in the UK and NOT available AT ALL in the US--] that

> > uses ozone to clean the cavity and then uses time

> > and some minerals in mouthwash to remineralize teeth.

> > Apparently this works. I have been wondering at what

> > point I would post about it here--- I know some about

> > it but really kinda shallow knowledge. For people in

> > UK (and I guess a FEW other places) it is a good thing

> > to know. I think there are a couple dentists in Canada

> > also doing this (near Toronto and I think I recall one

> > in Vancouver?)

> >

> Dunno, never heard of this method. Sounds similar to Price's

yes and no. The idea of " remineralizing " will be similar

in any method you find--- however the ozone step is quite

different--- ozone is used to stop the infection/decay

process, and THEN the remineralization is done.

Moria

but his

> protocol was strictly dietary, I believe. And can be done

*anywhere*

> as long as you have access to good quality CLO, high vitamin

butter

> oil (which can be ordered directly from the farmer at

> http://www.greenpasture.org/) and quality raw milk. I doubt most

> people have the inclination and commitment to do this though.

>

> Suze

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Jeanne,

We just had an ABR (Auditory Brainwave Response) done for our 2 y o son and

anesthesia was also a concern. You may want to check out ARI www.autism.com/ari

or Center for the Study of Autism www.autism.org. One of the sites has a section

on general and dental anesthesia. We found it very helpful when working with our

anethesiologist and everything went smoothly.

Take Care,

in CA

mom to 2 y o, asd with perfect hearing in both ears, gf/cf/sf 6 mos., scd 5

days

Jeanne <jeannebee20032002@...> wrote:

Hi:

My 4yo son is going to the dentist next week and really needs to get his teeth

clean, alot of plaque buildup, what is a good, safe way to sedate him for this

cleaning. Thanks

Jean

mprdh2004 <justice9999@...> wrote:

You actually get three sets of permanent molars...At 6 yrs., at 12

yrs., and then when your wisdom teeth come in (which varies greatly).

Sealants are to prevent decay, whereas fillings are placed after

decay has occured.

I would not use nitrous oxide(laughing gas). I don't believe it is

safe at all. Using it when you are pregnant can cause a spontaneous

abortion. So if it affects a growing baby that way, you know it can

hurt a growing child.

You should ask your dentist if he/she uses air abrasion for early

decay. This can be used in place of the drill if the decay isn't

deep. And most of the time no lidocaine is needed.

I don't know if sealants are bad, I have heard conflicting ideas on

this. For placing sealants, first you apply an acid etchant, then

apply the sealant (a liquid resin), then harden it with a curing

light. If placed properly and KEPT DRY while being applied I have

seen them do their job at preventing decay. And on the flip side, I

have seen them fall off because they weren't kept dry during

placement. And I have also seen dentists place sealants on teeth

that I know had very small decay on them. That ticks me off

because then the decay grows and then a larger filling has to be

placed on the tooth than would have if initially a filling was done

instead of a sealant.

HTH,

> Hello all. We just got back from the dentist. My son needs 2 WHITE

> FILLINGS in his molars. He is almost 10 and still has a few

primary

> teeth. Do we only get 1 set of molars? I thought all baby teeth

would

> be replaced with permanent teeth. If this is true, then the molars

> are primary teeth. Why fill them now? What age do permanent molars

> come in? Are white fillings the same as sealants? Are sealants bad

> for our kids? Is laughing gas and novacaine bad for our kids? We

> chelate my son using Andy's protocol with ALA and supplements.

Thanks

> in advance. Tina in NY

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In a message dated 5/12/2006 7:59:31 AM Central Standard Time,

gfmack@... writes:

I think the policy of dentist now is to save the teeth at all costs now get

a second opinion

I agree. As crappy as it sounds they try and " save " the tooth instead of

just yanking it like want them to...Grrr. off to the dentist in a few mins

myself so i'll update later.

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I think the policy of dentist now is to save the teeth at all costs now get

a second opinion

[ ] Dental questions

> Today I went to the dentist to try to fix some cavities that seem to be

> aggressive for some reason. I need (I thought) 2 bottom molars on each

> side

> pulled because there's not too much left of them. In the last 3 months,

> I've

> lost parts of each, even a filling came out. In the past, he pulled those

> that were in that condition, and charged more because " they had to be cut

> out " . BALONIE!

>

> Since I'm taking Fosamax, if he pulls them, they will never heal, never

> ever. It wasn't that way last year when he pulled 4 front teeth and 2 jaw

> teeth. Now, instead of pulling them at $70 each, he wants to fill them for

> $175 each! He's also telling me that the cavities are more agressive

> because

> of the Sjogrens not allowing enough saliva to wash the teeth. Does anybody

> know if he's full of it, or is that the straight stuff? I can't afford

> $4500

> for 'fixing' my teeth. I can puree lots of steaks for that price. Any

> advice

> or info?

>

> Dennis

>

>

>

>

>

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In my opinion, after working in the Dental field for 13 years, Teeth are very

important! They help with eating, speech, and for cosmetic reasons, smiling.

Dentures are sometimes uncomfortable. I do not know of a dentist who wont

recommned saving your teeth as the first option. It is in your right as a

patient to extract the teeth if that is what you want to do, however, sometimes

seeking a 2nd opinion is also beneficial, but could be expensive, as most ins

wont pay for it.

Sjorens does cause decay because of insufficient saliva flow. This is proven.

Surgical extractions, where a tooth needs to be removed by cutting the tooth

in half, utilizing a handpiece, or cutting the gums is a surgical extraction.

Also if he starts to remove a tooth and it breaks and he has to dig for it, it

is a surgical extraction, and it does cost more.

Do one thing at a time, the most needed work first of course. thenask the

doctor if you can make a payment arrengement and explain your situation. There

also may be a financing program that you can apply for for your dental work.

Is there a free clinic or a doctor that works on a sliding scale in your area?

This may be where you should look into.

Good Luck! I would be wiling to answer anymore questions for you that you may

have. Please understand that I am not a Dentist, but have been working in the

Dental Field for 13 years as a surgical assistant.

betnden@... wrote:

Today I went to the dentist to try to fix some cavities that seem to be

aggressive for some reason. I need (I thought) 2 bottom molars on each side

pulled because there's not too much left of them. In the last 3 months, I've

lost parts of each, even a filling came out. In the past, he pulled those

that were in that condition, and charged more because " they had to be cut

out " . BALONIE!

Since I'm taking Fosamax, if he pulls them, they will never heal, never

ever. It wasn't that way last year when he pulled 4 front teeth and 2 jaw

teeth. Now, instead of pulling them at $70 each, he wants to fill them for

$175 each! He's also telling me that the cavities are more agressive because

of the Sjogrens not allowing enough saliva to wash the teeth. Does anybody

know if he's full of it, or is that the straight stuff? I can't afford $4500

for 'fixing' my teeth. I can puree lots of steaks for that price. Any advice

or info?

Dennis

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Hi, !

This is a topic of great interest to me.

For the last 15 years, I have endured a lot of pain and suffering in order

to keep my teeth. I'm 47 years old.

I've spent approximately $30,000 (and a lot of time) on dental/endodontic

procedures in those years, and none of the work was cosmetic.

I've had several second opinions, but nobody can explain the reason for my

problems. I have three siblings and two parents who all have their teeth and

COMBINED have had far, far less work done than I have.

Up until this year, I have never had any signs of gum disease, but I believe

I'm entering menopause and my hormones are shifting, and my mouth isn't

liking it.

I'm just about ready to throw in the towel.

The greatest irony is that I have a nice smile. A highly annoying part of

the " But you look good! " syndrome.

Not an MD

I'll tell you where to go!

Mayo Clinic in Rochester

http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

s Hopkins Medicine

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

Re: [ ] Dental questions

In my opinion, after working in the Dental field for 13 years, Teeth are

very important! They help with eating, speech, and for cosmetic reasons,

smiling. Dentures are sometimes uncomfortable. I do not know of a dentist

who wont recommned saving your teeth as the first option. It is in your

right as a patient to extract the teeth if that is what you want to do,

however, sometimes seeking a 2nd opinion is also beneficial, but could be

expensive, as most ins wont pay for it.

Sjorens does cause decay because of insufficient saliva flow. This is

proven.

Surgical extractions, where a tooth needs to be removed by cutting the

tooth in half, utilizing a handpiece, or cutting the gums is a surgical

extraction. Also if he starts to remove a tooth and it breaks and he has to

dig for it, it is a surgical extraction, and it does cost more.

Do one thing at a time, the most needed work first of course. thenask the

doctor if you can make a payment arrengement and explain your situation.

There also may be a financing program that you can apply for for your dental

work.

Is there a free clinic or a doctor that works on a sliding scale in your

area? This may be where you should look into.

Good Luck! I would be wiling to answer anymore questions for you that you

may have. Please understand that I am not a Dentist, but have been working

in the Dental Field for 13 years as a surgical assistant.

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This topic is also great interest to me as well... In the past few

months I have had to have 2 root canals..( deep caries with absesses)

( also experienced alot of problems in the process of the root

canals..)..several fillings.. and my gums are receeding.. I have RA

and sjogrens ( came down with them in dec 2004). Had pretty good

teeth prior. I think methotrexate is tough on the gums too!

Faith

--- In , " " <Matsumura_Clan@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi, !

>

>

> This is a topic of great interest to me.

>

> For the last 15 years, I have endured a lot of pain and suffering

in order

> to keep my teeth. I'm 47 years old.

>

> I've spent approximately $30,000 (and a lot of time) on

dental/endodontic

> procedures in those years, and none of the work was cosmetic.

>

> I've had several second opinions, but nobody can explain the reason

for my

> problems. I have three siblings and two parents who all have their

teeth and

> COMBINED have had far, far less work done than I have.

>

> Up until this year, I have never had any signs of gum disease, but

I believe

> I'm entering menopause and my hormones are shifting, and my mouth

isn't

> liking it.

>

> I'm just about ready to throw in the towel.

>

> The greatest irony is that I have a nice smile. A highly annoying

part of

> the " But you look good! " syndrome.

>

>

>

> Not an MD

>

> I'll tell you where to go!

>

> Mayo Clinic in Rochester

> http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

>

> s Hopkins Medicine

> http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

>

>

> Re: [ ] Dental questions

>

>

> In my opinion, after working in the Dental field for 13 years,

Teeth are

> very important! They help with eating, speech, and for cosmetic

reasons,

> smiling. Dentures are sometimes uncomfortable. I do not know of a

dentist

> who wont recommned saving your teeth as the first option. It is in

your

> right as a patient to extract the teeth if that is what you want to

do,

> however, sometimes seeking a 2nd opinion is also beneficial, but

could be

> expensive, as most ins wont pay for it.

>

> Sjorens does cause decay because of insufficient saliva flow.

This is

> proven.

>

> Surgical extractions, where a tooth needs to be removed by

cutting the

> tooth in half, utilizing a handpiece, or cutting the gums is a

surgical

> extraction. Also if he starts to remove a tooth and it breaks and

he has to

> dig for it, it is a surgical extraction, and it does cost more.

>

> Do one thing at a time, the most needed work first of course.

thenask the

> doctor if you can make a payment arrengement and explain your

situation.

> There also may be a financing program that you can apply for for

your dental

> work.

> Is there a free clinic or a doctor that works on a sliding scale

in your

> area? This may be where you should look into.

>

> Good Luck! I would be wiling to answer anymore questions for you

that you

> may have. Please understand that I am not a Dentist, but have been

working

> in the Dental Field for 13 years as a surgical assistant.

>

>

>

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Hi Doll! Check the fasts and cleanses files for a detox cleanse.. (will write more later - at work) Suzipeacefulglow <peacefulglow@...> wrote: Hi Everyone,Three questions. (1)I just did a search on our messages for past postings on mercury in the system. The only thing I found was to consume Cilantro. Does anyone know of any additional helps to rid mercury? I had some aggressive dental work done yesterday. =( (2)I also have a question as to if anyone has used pads that you tape to the bottom of your feet to pull out toxins? I think they are from Japan. Someone mentioned them to me in passing and I am wondering if anyone on here knows about them.(3)A friend recently told me she had great success when a dentist wanted to book her for gum surgery for

receeding gums. She balked and went to a nutritionalist. The nutritionalist put her on bio-dent from standard process and vita-myr toothpaste. After a few months she went back for another exam from the dentist. The dentist acted like he had never told her she needed gum surgery and said her gums were very healthy. (They had grown back but he wouldn't admit it.) My dentist told me - following yesterday's proceedure - that I was looking at a future root canal and I balked. It kick started me back to juicing yesterday and I also started on the bio-dent, B-6 and a multivitamin formula (not to mention arnica because my teeth and gums are very sore.) Has anyone else out there had success with restoring nerves in teeth or using this product a formula or any other natural product? Sorry this post is so long and thanks for reading and suggestions. - Doll.

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Hi Suzi,

Thanks. I checked all the files and the back messages. Just thought

someone might know something that wasn't posted. I was also curious if

anyone had experience with the products I mentioned. I made the

cilantro pesto tonight and it was so delicious. It was really weird, I

craved it and couldn't stop eating it...so I ate the whole bowl. Guess

I'll have to make more tomorrow. ; )

--- In health , Suzanne <suziesgoats@...>

wrote:

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> Hi Doll!

> Check the fasts and cleanses files for a detox cleanse..

> (will write more later - at work)

> Suzi

>

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