Re: WHY GAINING??? THIS sounds very SCARY

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_QueenCruiser@..._ (mailto:QueenCruiser@...) writes: << Just

reading some of the posts about people gaining, this sounds too scary for me!!

....

I will NEVER pay for another weight watchers class that is why I had this

done, it didnt work in the first place and I paid and paid and paid. I am only

10 months out still on the losing end...I do get hungry every few hours. I

know this is

putting me into a bad habit of always stuffing my face....I know our tummys

are smaller and shouldnt stretch much but what makes the losing of the fat

slow down to a stop around one year? ANYONE? >>

Hi There,

I can only speak of my own experiences. I, too, somehow thought the MGB

would be " the last diet " of my life. I can assure you, for me it is not.

My history: I started at 303 lbs (5'4 " ), lost 120 lbs in 1 yr on a low carb

diet. I didn't begin walking until 6 mos into that deal. I injured myself

exercising (imagine that) and slowly regained about 70 lbs over the course of 4

yrs. My own fault though, I ate badly.

When I began feeling stronger, the more I tried to get back on the low carb

bandwagon, the more weight I gained. You either eat low carb or you don't.

Cheating on that type of diet can be very fattening! I eventually felt out of

control, got very scared and finally gave into the MGB as an absolute last

resort.

I am down 92 lbs in 15 months but it has been a struggle from the get-go.

The weight has not " fallen off " and I have rarely had a 10 lb in 1 month loss. I

actually gained weight immediately post-op and had 2 months in between where

I stayed the same or was up by 3 lbs.

I joined E-Diets to keep me honest with healthier food choices. I am a

person who admittedly has horrible eating habits by nature and left to my own

devices would live on chocolate. My sweet tooth was fueled after the MGB,

unlike

most people's, and I therefore have to watch EVERY MORSEL that crosses my

lips. Prior to E-Diets, (and I was only 9 months out), I had nonproductive

months. Since then, I have been losing slowly and steadily and am putting good

eating habits to the test.

I don't want to say that I'm learning new habits because I already knew

them, I was just lazy and didn't follow them.

I have learned one new thing, though - I was getting hungry every few hours

too, but I forced myself to 3 square meals plus one snack a day. The scale

moved very, very slowly. I finally listened to my body and it's clock, so now

if

I'm hungry, I eat...BUT, I purposely cut my meals in half so I can eat them

every few hours. Breakfast is at 8:30 and 10, lunch at 11:45 and 1:15, snack

at 3:00, and supper at 6:00 with my last snack at 8pm.

My total daily caloric intake is 1500-1600 calories and snacks are usually

nutritional, like half cheese sandwich or peanut butter on a banana.

I found an awesome bread that is double fiber and low carb by Health Line,

in a purple wrapper called Double Fiber.

I am not losing by leaps and bounds, but I also feel that I am developing

eating habits that I can live with forever and hope to therefore control the

regain so many people talk about. I do not know of a single thin person, except

maybe a guy or two, that doesn't have to work at achieving or maintaining

their bodies.

That said, in my opinion, the MGB did exactly what Dr R said it would do. It

put me on a level playing field with " normal " people. I have seriously

observed many habits of people close to me and have realised that they DO work

at

staying trim. It is a lifelong commitment that we take great care in our

habits and with our bodies, and I feel like I will never be cured of obesity,

but

I have been given the chance to try and control it.

God, I hope I'm right! Then again, is it possible that some of us do have a

tendency to set ourselves up for failure?

I think the key with this surgery is to look at it in a long-term, like the

rest of your life, kind of game plan. The human body is smart, it will

eventually figure out that we messed with it's insides. So be kind to it and

think

long haul. Make smart choices and hopefully develop good habits that will

stay with you after the MGB's " magic " wears off.

Oh, by the way, by 1 yr post-op I was able to out-eat my skinny friends

again. I had to pull them reins back mighty quick!

Good luck to all of us!

Patty H

8/25/03 Stsvl

253/160/(135)

[Guest guest]

if you dont eventually return to a more " normal " absorption you will

die. at around a year....18 mo. sometimes 2 years... your body

adjusts... things level out.

at 4 years i have a 7-10 pound struggle. NOT a 150 pound struggle!

NO MORE!!

some people have their surgery and continue to eat as much as they

can of whatever they can (in the early months, this results in weight

LOSS)

As time passes, 4 crackers that used to fill you to overflow have

become 10 crackers. 2 bites of steak and 1/2 cup of salad gives

way to a small salad a small steak and a baked potato... and if you

have snacks in between..... well you see how it adds up. the

capacity never becomes HUGE... but it will empty and if you keep it

filled (and bad choices makes it worse!) you are going to gain! we

level out we become normal.

we cant have mgb and then eat as we please forever -- weight loss

doesnt stop at 130 and then we can still eat without concience and

the weight just be stable forever....

doesnt work like that.

i eat and dont gain very much. i weigh every day and when my weight

is up 5#, 7#... ok ok 10#!! i start making better choices (like

now). that is how people " do it " no secret... just eat like normal

people. i still want a half pound of chocolate covered raisins...

and if i am careful, and space the " handfuls " skillfully throughout

the day.... and eat one here and there--- i CAN consume a big bag of

raisinettes! and if do that every day.... i will gain!! it isnt a

mystery. it is logic.

good luck!!

cathy s in va

>

>

> Just reading some of the posts about people gaining, this sounds

too

> scary for me!! I know when all is said and done we might gain back

> 15 to 20 percent back, but whats the deal?

> Is this just a few people or what? What about all you long timers

> how are you holding your weight down? I will NEVER pay for another

> weight watchers class that is why I had this done, it didnt work in

> the first place and I paid and paid and paid. I am only 10 months

> out still on the losing end and want to know how to keep losing and

> not gain it back. Is it a small percentage of people that are

> gaining or alot? I do get hungry every few hours. I know this is

> putting me into a bad habit of always stuffing my face. What

happens

> when we stop losing weight? AND why do we stop losing before all

the

> fat is gone ANYWAY? I know our tummys are smaller and shouldnt

> stretch much but what makes the losing of the fat slow down to a

stop

> around one year? ANYONE?

>

> Thanks so much!

> ne

> 1/5/04 Dr R

> 310/291

[Guest guest]

GREAT POST!!!!!!!

cathy s in va

>

>

> _QueenCruiser@a..._ (mailto:QueenCruiser@a...) writes: << Just

> reading some of the posts about people gaining, this sounds too

scary for me!! ...

> I will NEVER pay for another weight watchers class that is why I

had this

> done, it didnt work in the first place and I paid and paid and

paid. I am only

> 10 months out still on the losing end...I do get hungry every few

hours. I

> know this is

> putting me into a bad habit of always stuffing my face....I know

our tummys

> are smaller and shouldnt stretch much but what makes the losing of

the fat

> slow down to a stop around one year? ANYONE? >>

>

> Hi There,

>

> I can only speak of my own experiences. I, too, somehow thought the

MGB

> would be " the last diet " of my life. I can assure you, for me it

is not.

>

> My history: I started at 303 lbs (5'4 " ), lost 120 lbs in 1 yr on a

low carb

> diet. I didn't begin walking until 6 mos into that deal. I injured

myself

> exercising (imagine that) and slowly regained about 70 lbs over

the course of 4

> yrs. My own fault though, I ate badly.

>

> When I began feeling stronger, the more I tried to get back on the

low carb

> bandwagon, the more weight I gained. You either eat low carb or

you don't.

> Cheating on that type of diet can be very fattening! I eventually

felt out of

> control, got very scared and finally gave into the MGB as an

absolute last

> resort.

>

> I am down 92 lbs in 15 months but it has been a struggle from the

get-go.

> The weight has not " fallen off " and I have rarely had a 10 lb in 1

month loss. I

> actually gained weight immediately post-op and had 2 months in

between where

> I stayed the same or was up by 3 lbs.

>

> I joined E-Diets to keep me honest with healthier food choices. I

am a

> person who admittedly has horrible eating habits by nature and

left to my own

> devices would live on chocolate. My sweet tooth was fueled after

the MGB, unlike

> most people's, and I therefore have to watch EVERY MORSEL that

crosses my

> lips. Prior to E-Diets, (and I was only 9 months out), I had

nonproductive

> months. Since then, I have been losing slowly and steadily and am

putting good

> eating habits to the test.

>

> I don't want to say that I'm learning new habits because I already

knew

> them, I was just lazy and didn't follow them.

>

>

>

>

> I have learned one new thing, though - I was getting hungry every

few hours

> too, but I forced myself to 3 square meals plus one snack a day.

The scale

> moved very, very slowly. I finally listened to my body and it's

clock, so now if

> I'm hungry, I eat...BUT, I purposely cut my meals in half so I can

eat them

> every few hours. Breakfast is at 8:30 and 10, lunch at 11:45 and

1:15, snack

> at 3:00, and supper at 6:00 with my last snack at 8pm.

>

> My total daily caloric intake is 1500-1600 calories and snacks are

usually

> nutritional, like half cheese sandwich or peanut butter on a banana.

>

> I found an awesome bread that is double fiber and low carb by

Health Line,

> in a purple wrapper called Double Fiber.

>

> I am not losing by leaps and bounds, but I also feel that I am

developing

> eating habits that I can live with forever and hope to therefore

control the

> regain so many people talk about. I do not know of a single thin

person, except

> maybe a guy or two, that doesn't have to work at achieving or

maintaining

> their bodies.

>

> That said, in my opinion, the MGB did exactly what Dr R said it

would do. It

> put me on a level playing field with " normal " people. I have

seriously

> observed many habits of people close to me and have realised that

they DO work at

> staying trim. It is a lifelong commitment that we take great care

in our

> habits and with our bodies, and I feel like I will never be cured

of obesity, but

> I have been given the chance to try and control it.

>

> God, I hope I'm right! Then again, is it possible that some of us

do have a

> tendency to set ourselves up for failure?

>

> I think the key with this surgery is to look at it in a long-term,

like the

> rest of your life, kind of game plan. The human body is smart, it

will

> eventually figure out that we messed with it's insides. So be kind

to it and think

> long haul. Make smart choices and hopefully develop good habits

that will

> stay with you after the MGB's " magic " wears off.

>

> Oh, by the way, by 1 yr post-op I was able to out-eat my skinny

friends

> again. I had to pull them reins back mighty quick!

>

> Good luck to all of us!

>

> Patty H

> 8/25/03 Stsvl

> 253/160/(135)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Patty, thank you for sharing. I have developed a sweet tooth, 9 weeks out

and have just recently been thinking farther ahead than today, realizing

that NOW is the time to work on developing the good habits, because later

may be too late. And yes, it is JUST a tool, not a solution.

>From: NCGorgeous1963@...

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: WHY GAINING??? THIS sounds very SCARY

>Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 19:40:01 EST

>

>

>

>_QueenCruiser@..._ (mailto:QueenCruiser@...) writes: << Just

>reading some of the posts about people gaining, this sounds too scary for

>me!! ...

>I will NEVER pay for another weight watchers class that is why I had this

>done, it didnt work in the first place and I paid and paid and paid. I am

>only

>10 months out still on the losing end...I do get hungry every few hours.

>I

>know this is

>putting me into a bad habit of always stuffing my face....I know our

>tummys

>are smaller and shouldnt stretch much but what makes the losing of the fat

>slow down to a stop around one year? ANYONE? >>

>

>Hi There,

>

>I can only speak of my own experiences. I, too, somehow thought the MGB

>would be " the last diet " of my life. I can assure you, for me it is not.

>

>My history: I started at 303 lbs (5'4 " ), lost 120 lbs in 1 yr on a low

>carb

>diet. I didn't begin walking until 6 mos into that deal. I injured myself

>exercising (imagine that) and slowly regained about 70 lbs over the course

>of 4

>yrs. My own fault though, I ate badly.

>

>When I began feeling stronger, the more I tried to get back on the low

>carb

>bandwagon, the more weight I gained. You either eat low carb or you don't.

>Cheating on that type of diet can be very fattening! I eventually felt out

>of

>control, got very scared and finally gave into the MGB as an absolute last

>resort.

>

>I am down 92 lbs in 15 months but it has been a struggle from the get-go.

>The weight has not " fallen off " and I have rarely had a 10 lb in 1 month

>loss. I

> actually gained weight immediately post-op and had 2 months in between

>where

>I stayed the same or was up by 3 lbs.

>

>I joined E-Diets to keep me honest with healthier food choices. I am a

>person who admittedly has horrible eating habits by nature and left to my

>own

>devices would live on chocolate. My sweet tooth was fueled after the MGB,

>unlike

>most people's, and I therefore have to watch EVERY MORSEL that crosses my

>lips. Prior to E-Diets, (and I was only 9 months out), I had nonproductive

>months. Since then, I have been losing slowly and steadily and am putting

>good

>eating habits to the test.

>

>I don't want to say that I'm learning new habits because I already knew

>them, I was just lazy and didn't follow them.

>

>

>

>

>I have learned one new thing, though - I was getting hungry every few hours

>too, but I forced myself to 3 square meals plus one snack a day. The scale

>moved very, very slowly. I finally listened to my body and it's clock, so

>now if

>I'm hungry, I eat...BUT, I purposely cut my meals in half so I can eat

>them

>every few hours. Breakfast is at 8:30 and 10, lunch at 11:45 and 1:15,

>snack

>at 3:00, and supper at 6:00 with my last snack at 8pm.

>

>My total daily caloric intake is 1500-1600 calories and snacks are usually

>nutritional, like half cheese sandwich or peanut butter on a banana.

>

>I found an awesome bread that is double fiber and low carb by Health Line,

>in a purple wrapper called Double Fiber.

>

>I am not losing by leaps and bounds, but I also feel that I am developing

>eating habits that I can live with forever and hope to therefore control

>the

>regain so many people talk about. I do not know of a single thin person,

>except

>maybe a guy or two, that doesn't have to work at achieving or maintaining

>their bodies.

>

>That said, in my opinion, the MGB did exactly what Dr R said it would do.

>It

>put me on a level playing field with " normal " people. I have seriously

>observed many habits of people close to me and have realised that they DO

>work at

>staying trim. It is a lifelong commitment that we take great care in our

>habits and with our bodies, and I feel like I will never be cured of

>obesity, but

>I have been given the chance to try and control it.

>

>God, I hope I'm right! Then again, is it possible that some of us do have a

>tendency to set ourselves up for failure?

>

>I think the key with this surgery is to look at it in a long-term, like the

>rest of your life, kind of game plan. The human body is smart, it will

>eventually figure out that we messed with it's insides. So be kind to it

>and think

>long haul. Make smart choices and hopefully develop good habits that will

>stay with you after the MGB's " magic " wears off.

>

>Oh, by the way, by 1 yr post-op I was able to out-eat my skinny friends

>again. I had to pull them reins back mighty quick!

>

>Good luck to all of us!

>

>Patty H

>8/25/03 Stsvl

>253/160/(135)

>

>

>