Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 Let's consider the term pre-diabetes. " Pre " means before. Okay so your friend doesn't have diabetes and you and I and she are all pre-diabetic. Every human on the face of this planet who doesn't already have diabetes is a pre-diabetic. Instead of her worrying about a label for some dis-ease that she doesn't have yet she might consider taking steps to avoid becoming a diabetic. This would include dietary changes as well as lifestyle changes. Cut out or seriously cut down on the fats, meats, starches and cooking and eat way more raw fruits and tender leafy greens. Diabetes is not a problem of having sugar in your blood it is the inability to get the sugar into the cells where it can be used. This is normally because of excessive fats in the diet that clog everything up. It is much harder for insulin to transport sugar into a cell when that molecule of sugar is all coated in fat/oil. All foods eaten should be whole foods. We should do our best to cut down or cut out the fractionated foods like vegetable oils. We don't need them. We can get all the fats our bodies need from eating seeds, nuts, fruits, and tender leafy greens. She doesn't have to become a raw foodist. She should seriously consider eating 80% raw fruits and veggies and instead of cooking the other 20% to death just lightly steam it. She should cut out all meats though. Our bodies just are not designed to digest flesh foods. She might also wisely choose to seriously cut down on the dairy (butter, milk, cheeses). Anyway, pre-diabetes is a new term concocted by the pharma group so that they can increase their sale of drugs. There is no such disease, it is a made up disease. The human body needs carbohydrates for energy, potatoes and starchy foods are a very poor source of energy as they are difficult for the body to digest. Whereas fruits are very easy to digest and provide the body with the simple sugars that very quickly, and with little effort on the body's part, turn into glucose which is what the body uses for fuel. Even fat and proteins must be turned into sugar for use by the body as fuel when no other source is available but these are extremely hard for the body to break down and wastes the body's own energy in doing it. She might also benefit greatly, as well all can, by learning about proper food combining. Very few people understand this issue and suffer because of it. There are many good books on this subject as well as many web pages that discuss and lay it all out in easy to read format. HTH, Don Quai Virginia -Gruver wrote: > > I have a friend who has just been diagnosed as pre-diabetes and she > asked me about herbal products to help her body with insulin. Does > anyone know what herbal products are available on the market to help > with pre-diabetes? > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > Virginia -Gruver > www.manhattancreekranch.com > Akbash Predator Control Dogs > Nigerian Dwarf, Lamancha, > Nubian, MiniMancha, MiniNubian > Garden Valley, CA > > . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 First let me tell you that the reason my friend came to me is because I am a RN and I do a lot of patient teaching with diabetics (at least 75% of my patients are diabetic). We have discussed diet, exercise and lifestyle (smoking, family history, etc.) and disease process. In the mean time I just did not know how to answer her question. Pre-diabetes is a term used when your blood glucose is above "normal" range but not high enough to be diabetic. This is a clinical indicator that is used to help people to prevent diabetes and pre-diabetes patients are not on medication. This person wants to know what she can use to help keep her blood sugars down along with diet, exercise, etc. I know there are products out there but I don't know anything about them. This person has a long road ahead to get the weight down and in the mean time while learning a new lifestyle of counting carbs, exercise, etc she does not want her blood glucose to get out of control. In working with patients I have found that you take baby steps. If you ask people to make the entire change all at once (unless they are about to die) you are not going to succeed. Exercise is the easiest for most people to do but diet is very hard because we look at carbs, sodium intake, etc and these "bad" foods are the foods that most of us grow up eating. A life-long habit is very hard to change. In the mean time while learning to cut portions and look at carbs this person wants something to help to allow her cells to utilize the insulin. That is why I came to the group because I am not familiar with any of these products. Thank you +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-Virginia -Gruverwww.manhattancreekranch.comAkbash Predator Control DogsNigerian Dwarf, Lamancha,Nubian, MiniMancha, MiniNubianGarden Valley, CA -----Original Message-----From: health [mailto:health ]On Behalf Of Don EitnerSent: Friday, June 30, 2006 8:12 PMhealth Subject: Re: Pre-diabetes Let's consider the term pre-diabetes. "Pre" means before. Okay so your friend doesn't have diabetes and you and I and she are all pre-diabetic. Every human on the face of this planet who doesn't already have diabetes is a pre-diabetic. Instead of her worrying about a label for some dis-ease that she doesn't have yet she might consider taking steps to avoid becoming a diabetic. This would include dietary changes as well as lifestyle changes. Cut out or seriously cut down on the fats, meats, starches and cooking and eat way more raw fruits and tender leafy greens. Diabetes is not a problem of having sugar in your blood it is the inability to get the sugar into the cells where it can be used. This is normally because of excessive fats in the diet that clog everything up. It is much harder for insulin to transport sugar into a cell when that molecule of sugar is all coated in fat/oil. All foods eaten should be whole foods. We should do our best to cut down or cut out the fractionated foods like vegetable oils. We don't need them. We can get all the fats our bodies need from eating seeds, nuts, fruits, and tender leafy greens.She doesn't have to become a raw foodist. She should seriously consider eating 80% raw fruits and veggies and instead of cooking the other 20% to death just lightly steam it. She should cut out all meats though. Our bodies just are not designed to digest flesh foods. She might also wisely choose to seriously cut down on the dairy (butter, milk, cheeses).Anyway, pre-diabetes is a new term concocted by the pharma group so that they can increase their sale of drugs. There is no such disease, it is a made up disease.The human body needs carbohydrates for energy, potatoes and starchy foods are a very poor source of energy as they are difficult for the body to digest. Whereas fruits are very easy to digest and provide the body with the simple sugars that very quickly, and with little effort on the body's part, turn into glucose which is what the body uses for fuel. Even fat and proteins must be turned into sugar for use by the body as fuel when no other source is available but these are extremely hard for the body to break down and wastes the body's own energy in doing it.She might also benefit greatly, as well all can, by learning about proper food combining. Very few people understand this issue and suffer because of it. There are many good books on this subject as well as many web pages that discuss and lay it all out in easy to read format.HTH,Don QuaiVirginia -Gruver wrote:>> I have a friend who has just been diagnosed as pre-diabetes and she > asked me about herbal products to help her body with insulin. Does > anyone know what herbal products are available on the market to help > with pre-diabetes?>> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-> Virginia -Gruver> www.manhattancreekranch.com> Akbash Predator Control Dogs> Nigerian Dwarf, Lamancha,> Nubian, MiniMancha, MiniNubian> Garden Valley, CA>> .>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 Virginia -Gruver wrote: > > First let me tell you that the reason my friend came to me is because > I am a RN and I do a lot of patient teaching with diabetics (at least > 75% of my patients are diabetic). We have discussed diet, exercise and > lifestyle (smoking, family history, etc.) and disease process. In the > mean time I just did not know how to answer her question. Pre-diabetes > is a term used when your blood glucose is above " normal " range but not > high enough to be diabetic. This is a clinical indicator that is used > to help people to prevent diabetes and pre-diabetes patients are not > on medication. This person wants to know what she can use to help keep > her blood sugars down along with diet, exercise, etc. I know there are > products out there but I don't know anything about them. This person > has a long road ahead to get the weight down and in the mean time > while learning a new lifestyle of counting carbs, exercise, etc she > does not want her blood glucose to get out of control. > > In working with patients I have found that you take baby steps. If you > ask people to make the entire change all at once (unless they are > about to die) you are not going to succeed. Exercise is the easiest > for most people to do but diet is very hard because we look at carbs, > sodium intake, etc and these " bad " foods are the foods that most of us > grow up eating. A life-long habit is very hard to change. In the mean > time while learning to cut portions and look at carbs this person > wants something to help to allow her cells to utilize the insulin. > That is why I came to the group because I am not familiar with any of > these products. > > Thank you > ================================== > Pre-diabetes exists with everyone right after any meal. It is a made > up term for the medico/pharma conglomerate to make more money. To keep > people enslaved to the idea that they cannot be responsible for their > own health. There is no herb or drug that is going to cure anything > and there never has been. Only the body has the innate intelligence to > cure itself. Not even your or I can cure our body. The only thing this > lady can do is change her diet if she is worried about becoming a > diabetic. It is all about choice Virginia. Nothing more and nothing > less. We all choose our own way of dying, living or anything else in > between. Herbs and drugs only address symptoms, they do not address > cause. The cause of possibly becoming diabetic, from my perspective, > is in buying into the concept that a doctor actually knows what he is > talking about. Doctors, for the most part, do not know about causes, > they only know about symptoms because that is all they are taught to > address. All medical schools are controlled and funded by big pharma > and this is for a very specific reason. So this friend of yours needs > to take the necessary baby steps and start looking at her diet and > what she can do to change it. The cause of all diseases is toxemia of > the body (too much waste and toxins in the body) it is nothing more > than that. All these toxins come from diet and lifestyle choices, > nothing more. If she wants her cells to utilize the insulin then she > needs to take the necessary steps needed to get the fats out of her > diet, stop overstressing her pancreas with processed garbage foods, > starches, pastas, sweets, etc. and start eating a diet that is high in > raw fruits/vegetables, tender leafy greens with some nuts/seeds. > There is no herb or drug that will help cells use insulin as cells > don't use insulin anyway. They use glucose, mainly, unless the body is > too polluted with metabolic wastes that the glucose cannot get to the > cells in which case the cells have reverted to anaerobic metabolism. > Nothing will help this and anything that will be used will not address > the cause but only mask the symptoms. I am well aware of life long > habits being hard to change but it still all boils down to choice > Virginia, do you or don't you!!! This is one of the reasons why so > many wait until they are about to die because they don't want to make > the necessary changes, too uncomfortable for them. By then, for some, > it is too late. As I said it is all choice. To just live or to live > healthy. The cause is diet and lifestyle or more appropriately, the > cause is always choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 There are supplements that can help reduce the symptoms of pre- diabetes. Some of these are bitter melon, chromium piconolate, vanadium, L-Carnitine, gemneva sylvestre and others. All of Doctor Atkins writings really focused on people with pre-diabetes (though he called for a drastic reduction in carbs which included fruit, and I've found that fruit really helps balance blood sugar). There is a multivitamin called " alphabeta " which is made specifically for pre- diabetics and Type IIs and this can be found in most drugstores. Have your client start researching supplements for diabetics (Type II) on the internet and she'll find much information to help her transition to a new, healthier life. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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