Mumps

July 15, 2000

At 11:34 PM 07/15/2000 -0600, you wrote:

>I constantly hear about mumps causing sterility in men who catch the

>disease. I thought I read somewhere that this is a very low percentage,

>anyone have some info on this?

>

Mendelsohn says that orchitis rarely causes sterility and when it does,

because only one testicle is usually affected, the sperm production

capacity of the unaffected testicle could repopulate the world!

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September 1, 2000

Hi!!!!

Has anyone had mumps as an adult? I was wondering if what I have this week is

the mumps. My mom can't remember if I had them as a child. This started out

with a flu like virus where I slept most of the day for two days straight.

One gland swelled up rather large and then the other side did the same the

next day. It is really painful to swallow. Cold liquids are great and hot

ones are annoying. I guess that I should have had my MMR booster shot. Just

kidding of course!!!!! No one in my family has gotten this virus and my

husband has not had mumps as far as he knows. Your thoughts?

Lynn

September 29, 2000

In a message dated 9/29/00 8:15:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, SFwwjd4u@...

writes:

<<

What about mumps and sterility in males? Isn't anyone concerned their boys

might become sterile? >>

My medical texts say it is very rare,happens to older males,and usually just

one testicle is damaged.But you know they create many vaccines for higher

risk groups(ill kids and adults) and then SOMEHOW it becomes recommended for

everyone.

September 29, 2000

At 11:14 PM 09/29/2000 EDT, you wrote:

>What about mumps and sterility in males? Isn't anyone concerned their boys

>might become sterile? Any information would be appreciated.

>

>Blessings,

>Suzanne

I will tell you it is EXTRMELY rare - and if the testicles are affected it

is usually only one, NOT both.

Sheri

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September 29, 2000

The sterility issue with the Mumps comes up often but after doing some

research on it this is whatI found:

Mendelsohn says that orchitis rarely causes sterility and when it does,

because only one testicle is usually affected, the sperm production

capacity of the unaffected testicle could repopulate the world!

About 1 out of every 4 adolescent or adult men who have mumps may experience

painful swelling of the testicles. Men who have mumps after puberty can

develop swelling of one (rarely of both) testes. These symptoms usually go

away in 1-2 weeks. Sterility is very rare after a testicluar infection even

if both testes are involved.

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Mumps

What about mumps and sterility in males? Isn't anyone concerned their boys

might become sterile? Any information would be appreciated.

Blessings,

Suzanne

November 1, 2001

At 12:45 PM 11/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:

>Sheri,

>

>Thanks for your input...

>

>I took her off the antibiotic...she only had one dose. I think her dr.

gave it to her because she didn't know what else to do....she just kept

saying " it CAN " T be mumps "

>It's impossible "

>

>Anyways...I think I gave it to her because I panicked.

Yes, its hard to get that programming out of us!

>

> is doing just fine though. Her face is absolutely huge ! Instead

of *looking* like a hamster, - she looks as if she has a hamster in each

cheek ! But she feels okay and is outside playing right now, -

actually...I see her in a tree. She does tire easily though and takes

frequent naps. Says her face hurts quite a bit. And is not able to

tolerate any sour or citrus like foods. --Lots of soup. Wondering if her

little brother will contract it. All of the mom's who usually stop over

at my house during the day are avoiding us like the plague....Now where is

their faith in that vaccine :~) !!

Glad she is doing well.

Was she vaccinated? I can't remember what you said, if you did?

Keep us posted.

>

>Also, I tried to come off digest at and go back to individual emails

after I caught up. -- but am still only receiving emails from ivy and in

digest form. Can you help with that ?

I don't have anything to do with ivy but I'll check this list

Sheri

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November 1, 2001

Yes....I am feeling the same way. Last night was standing by a bowl

of candy out for our trick-or-treaters..and our neighbor came by with her

kids and saw that was not out having fun too - and asked why. When my

husband told her it was because she had the mumps the woman slapped the

candy out of her son's hand and left !!!! and almost fell backing off the

stairs. - Now I did not let even touch that candy and she had a mask

on to try and be in the spirit of the evening....she was just standing by

the bowl ! :~)

Mumps

>

> Sheri,

>

> Thanks for your input...

>

> I took her off the antibiotic...she only had one dose. I think her dr.

gave it to her because she didn't know what else to do....she just kept

saying " it CAN " T be mumps "

> It's impossible "

>

> Anyways...I think I gave it to her because I panicked.

>

November 1, 2001

Hi, le!

When my son came down with Mumps, the pediatrician kept saying, " It can't be

Mumps, he was vaccinated. It's a Mumps-like virus, related to Mumps, " etc. My

reply was, " If it looks like a duck, it quacks like a duck, it's a duck! " It

was Mumps! I had it as a kid, my son had, it wasn't fun, but it was over in a

week, and it was no big deal. I still don't know why everyone freeks out so

much about Mumps.

Mumps

Sheri,

Thanks for your input...

I took her off the antibiotic...she only had one dose. I think her dr. gave

it to her because she didn't know what else to do....she just kept saying " it

CAN " T be mumps "

It's impossible "

Anyways...I think I gave it to her because I panicked.

is doing just fine though. Her face is absolutely huge ! Instead of

*looking* like a hamster, - she looks as if she has a hamster in each cheek !

But she feels okay and is outside playing right now, - actually...I see her in

a tree. She does tire easily though and takes frequent naps. Says her face

hurts quite a bit. And is not able to tolerate any sour or citrus like foods.

--Lots of soup. Wondering if her little brother will contract it. All of the

mom's who usually stop over at my house during the day are avoiding us like the

plague....Now where is their faith in that vaccine :~) !!

Also, I tried to come off digest at and go back to individual emails

after I caught up. -- but am still only receiving emails from ivy and in digest

form. Can you help with that ?

~le

November 1, 2001

At 01:07 AM 11/02/2001 -0500, you wrote:

>Yes....I am feeling the same way. Last night was standing by a bowl

>of candy out for our trick-or-treaters..and our neighbor came by with her

>kids and saw that was not out having fun too - and asked why. When my

>husband told her it was because she had the mumps the woman slapped the

>candy out of her son's hand and left !!!! and almost fell backing off the

>stairs. - Now I did not let even touch that candy and she had a mask

>on to try and be in the spirit of the evening....she was just standing by

>the bowl ! :~)

>

I understand your thoughts and if they are vaccinated what are they worried

about, but I don't think you realize the risk you are putting people at who

may be severely immune impaired and mumps could kill them and what if

someone is pregnant - just not a good idea. She should be kept away from

others while she is in communicable stages.

Even though we know mumps isn't usually serious, we have to know this and

people haven't been taught this stuff anymore so I don't blame you for not

knowing.

" Contagiousness:

Experts disagree about how long someone with mumps is contagious. Some say

that the contagious period lasts from 2 days before symptoms begin, to 6

days after symptoms end. Others say that persons with mumps can spread the

virus in their saliva from 6 days before their glands begin swelling, to 2

weeks after. Mumps virus may also live in the urine of infected persons for

2 to 3 weeks. "

>

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November 2, 2001

Dear Sheri,

was Standing by the bowl...in order to come out of her spot in the

living room she had to don her " halloween mask " . - She thought it was

fun...I had her do it to be safe.... .

C'mon - I've learned about it, talked to a couple dr.'s about it etc...

They all told me that yes, mumps is very contagious if you have a transfer

of saliva or urine from one person to the other...especially with little

kids because they wipe their hands with their mouths a lot and touch other

people..and they urinate on toilet seats and don't clean up after

themselves.....Yes yes yes - we all know that they are sloppy, slurpy little

things. was not hovering over the bowl, dripping saliva onto the

candy...she was standing near it. And again..she had on a *mask*

I am not , not taking her her situation seriously...but I cannot over-react

either. In contrast to this woman making her hasty exit, we had our other

neighbors from directly across the street, one who works as a nurse prac. ,

and her husband who is a surgeon -- stop over to enquire as to her health -

with their 4 children who took candy from our bowl too. He checked to make

sure she wasn't showing signs of meningitis ( which he says used to be a

uncommon occurrence - but better to be safe and check).

He told my husband and I that we should have taken her out to dinner for the

evening so she wouldn't feel bad about missing out on Halloween --as long as

we kept her away from other families who might be in physical contact with

her. Which we didn't do, - based on the waitress cleaning up her dishes

scenario...but ,I feel very much that we have been safe in regards to

others. We are

however waiting to see if anyone else in our extended family comes down with

it. All of the cousins play together frequently - before we noticed her

face swelling we had no cause to suspect her illness.

Now she is convinced that her " whole shot didn't work " and that the measles

will afflict her on either Thanksgiving or on Christmas ! :~)

Thanks again for the advice !! Your time is appreciated.

le

I understand your thoughts and if they are vaccinated what are they worried

about, but I don't think you realize the risk you are putting people at who

may be severely immune impaired and mumps could kill them and what if

someone is pregnant - just not a good idea. She should be kept away from

others while she is in communicable stages.

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From: Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...>

Subject: Re: Mumps

Even though we know mumps isn't usually serious, we have to know this and

people haven't been taught this stuff anymore so I don't blame you for not

knowing.

<<<< Thank you. >>>>

" Contagiousness:

Experts disagree about how long someone with mumps is contagious. Some say

that the contagious period lasts from 2 days before symptoms begin, to 6

days after symptoms end. Others say that persons with mumps can spread the

virus in their saliva from 6 days before their glands begin swelling, to 2

weeks after. Mumps virus may also live in the urine of infected persons for

2 to 3 weeks. "

<<<You left out the part here where it says : " A person with mumps is

contagious any time from forty eight hours before the onset of symptoms to

six days after the symptoms have started. This illness is not as contagious

as measles or chickenpox, and one attack usually affords lifetime immunity.

" >>>>

~le

November 2, 2001

Sandy. Yes. She is being kept at home. Thanks for your cents.

~le

Re: Mumps

>

> Even though we know mumps isn't usually serious, we have to know this and

> people haven't been taught this stuff anymore so I don't blame you for

not

> knowing.

> <<<< Thank you. >>>>

>

> " Contagiousness:

> Experts disagree about how long someone with mumps is contagious. Some

say

> that the contagious period lasts from 2 days before symptoms begin, to 6

> days after symptoms end. Others say that persons with mumps can spread

the

> virus in their saliva from 6 days before their glands begin swelling, to

2

> weeks after. Mumps virus may also live in the urine of infected persons

for

> 2 to 3 weeks. "

>

> <<<You left out the part here where it says : " A person with mumps is

> contagious any time from forty eight hours before the onset of symptoms to

> six days after the symptoms have started. This illness is not as

contagious

> as measles or chickenpox, and one attack usually affords lifetime

immunity.

> " >>>>

>

> ~le

>

November 2, 2001

le, I haven't been following this group of emails, so maybe I am out

of line here, but, in general, it is my opinion that if I or my children

have a contagious disease, they are kept at home. Period. It isn't right

to expose others, unless they want to be exposed (i.e., the " parties " ).

Just my one cent worth. Sandy

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Re: Mumps

Even though we know mumps isn't usually serious, we have to know this and

people haven't been taught this stuff anymore so I don't blame you for not

knowing.

<<<< Thank you. >>>>

" Contagiousness:

Experts disagree about how long someone with mumps is contagious. Some say

that the contagious period lasts from 2 days before symptoms begin, to 6

days after symptoms end. Others say that persons with mumps can spread the

virus in their saliva from 6 days before their glands begin swelling, to 2

weeks after. Mumps virus may also live in the urine of infected persons for

2 to 3 weeks. "

<<<You left out the part here where it says : " A person with mumps is

contagious any time from forty eight hours before the onset of symptoms to

six days after the symptoms have started. This illness is not as contagious

as measles or chickenpox, and one attack usually affords lifetime immunity.

" >>>>

~le

November 2, 2001

le,

I think the way you are handling things are great. I imagine I would be a

basket case. I do know that my oldest didn't titer to the HD satisfaction

(and no, we didn't repeat the shot ... duh! if it didn't work the first

time, what makes them think it would work the 2nd?)

anyway, I do hope alex is feeling better each day!

take care

April 27, 2002

Here is what Sherri had previously posted on treating mumps.

Jen L.

PRINT THESE PAGES OUT SO YOU HAVE THEM HANDY - mumps is usually very mild

and especially can be very mild without complications when treated with

homeopathy (also would use Vitamin A and C)

I have compiled these sites - These are from a variety of homeopathic

websites to give you clues as to what remedy is needed.

Also have on hand 2 books for a more detailed help:

Miranda Castro's - The Complete Homeopathy Handbook

In Us

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0312063202/ref=ase_wellwithinA/103-09

59395-1668617

In UK

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0330349260/wellwithin-21/202-201743

3-6213405

Dana Ullman's - Everybody's Guide to HOmeopathic Medicine

In Us

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0874778433/ref=ase_wellwithinA/103-09

59395-1668617

In UK

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0874778433/wellwithin-21/202-201743

3-6213405

Also find yourself a quality homeopath for backup

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/STEVELIST.htm

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

Sheri

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http://www.homeopathic.com/ailments/new/Mumps.htm

A Homeopathic Perspective on Mumps

(Excepted from Homeopathic Medicine for Children and Infants, Tarcher/Putnam)

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REMEDIES LISTED IN CAPITOL LETTERS REPRESENT MORE FREQUENTLY INDICATED

REMEDIES

Any teenager or adult who gets the mumps should receive medical attention,

and so should any child who also experiences difficulty hearing or who has

convulsions, neck stiffness, severe headache, or great weakness.

Homeopathic medicines are often effective in treating the average case of

mumps, and help reduce the chances of complications.

Aconitum: Useful at the beginning stages of mumps, these children have a

sudden onset of fever, restlessness, anxiety, and great thirst.

BELLADONNA: These children have a noticeably flushed face and throbbing

headache. They have swollen glands that are hot to touch. They are drowsy

but have difficulty sleeping.

Mercurius: Right-sided swelling of throat glands typify children who will

benefit from this medicine. They also have profuse and offensive salivation

and perspiration.

PHYTOLACCA: When children with mumps have stony hard throat glands,

especially on the right side, this medicine should be considered. The

throat pains may extend to the ear, and they may have an irresistable

desire to bite their teeth together. One of their characteristic symptoms

is pain from sticking og out their tongue. They tend to be worse in cold or

wet weather.

PILOCARPINUM: Some homeopaths assert that this medicine is the best remedy

for the mumps, although there are few known distinguishing symptoms that it

offers, except excessive salivation and perspiration. This is also a good

remedy for complications that some children get from the mumps.

Pulsatilla: This medicine is helpful in children approaching puberty who

get the mumps and experience swollen breasts or testicles. They are

thirstless, despite having a fever, and they are sensitive to warm rooms.

Rhus tox: These children have swollen glands which are worse on the left

side. Their symptoms are aggravated by cold, and they may have cold sores

on their lips.

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http://www.gnc.com/wellness/natpharm/Homeo/Mumps_hm.htm

Homeopathic Remedies for Mumps

Mumps is a viral infection in which the salivary glands, especially the

large parotid gland in the cheek, become inflamed and swollen. Fever,

headache, pain in front of and below the ears, and dry mouth (or sometimes

excessive salivation) are common symptoms. The following homeopathic

remedies can be helpful in many cases. Mumps in older children and adults

can be serious, since ovaries and testicles can become inflamed or damaged.

If areas other than the salivary glands are involved, if fever and headache

are extreme, or if the person has abdominal pain and vomiting, consult a

doctor right away.

For dosage information, please read the information at the end of this

section. See also " Using Homeopathy With Professional Guidance " in What Is

Homeopathy?

Aconitum napellus: This remedy may be indicated in mumps if the fever comes

on suddenly and the person is very agitated. Stabbing or tingling pain can

be felt in the jaw or face. The person feels worse from warmth and better

from fresh air, and is often very thirsty.

Apis mellifica: When this remedy is indicated, the face looks puffy, pink,

and tender, and cool compresses are soothing. Even with fever, thirst is

usually low. The person is irritable, disliking interference.

Arsenicum album: Strong anxiety and restlessness despite a feeling of

exhaustion suggest a need for this remedy. The head may feel hot and the

rest of the body chilly. This remedy is sometimes helpful in preventing

complications involving the ovaries or testicles.

Belladonna: When the illness comes on quickly with high fever, a hot

flushed face, and eyes that are sensitive to light, this remedy may be

indicated. Shooting pains can be felt in the swollen cheek (most often the

right). The person may also have a throbbing headache.

Bryonia: This remedy is indicated when the person feels worse from any

motion. Hard, tender swelling is felt in the cheek, and fever may be

accompanied by headache. The person's mouth feels dry, with thirst for long

cold drinks. Bryonia may be helpful if the swelling abruptly disappears,

but the person feels worse in general.

Calcarea carbonica: This remedy often helps during the mumps if the

person's head perspires during sleep, the hands and feet feel cold and

damp, and lymph nodes are also swollen. A person who needs this remedy

often feels anxious and is easily fatigued. Children may feel hot, but

adults tend to be chilly.

Carbo vegetabilis: When this remedy is indicated, fever may develop slowly,

and the person may feel chilled and faint. The stomach may also be upset,

with gas and belching. The person may want to be near a fan or window,

craving fresh or moving air. This remedy may often help if testicles,

ovaries, or breasts become involved in mumps, when the other symptoms fit.

Mercurius solubilis: This remedy can be helpful if hard, painful swelling

of the salivary glands occurs below the chin, as well as in the cheeks,

along with a large amount of salivation. The person is very sensitive to

temperature changes. Offensive breath, swollen lymph nodes, and

perspiration during sleep are also seen.

Phytolacca: This remedy may be useful if swelling of the parotid gland is

sore and tight, or if the breasts or other glands are becoming painful and

swollen. The person may feel tired, dizzy, and sore all over. Relief may

come from drinking something cold, but the person is better from warmth in

general.

Pulsatilla: Although this remedy is known for many kinds of children's

illnesses, it can also be very helpful when adults come down with the

mumps. Discomfort and swelling may be felt in the ovaries, breasts, or

testicles. The person feels worse from warmth and in the evening and better

from open air. Despite a fever, thirst is often low. A person who needs

this remedy usually is emotional, wanting lots of sympathy and comforting.

Rhus toxicodendron: When swelling of the cheek looks reddish and the person

feels achy, restless, and driven to get up and move around, this remedy may

be helpful. Stiffness and aching are relieved by warmth and motion. This

remedy may also help to prevent infection with the mumps, and should be

considered if older children or adults have been exposed.

Homeopathy Dosage Directions ---

Select the remedy that most closely matches the symptoms. In conditions

where self-treatment is appropriate, unless otherwise directed by a

physician, a lower potency (6X, 6C, 12X, 12C, 30X, or 30C) should be used.

In addition, instructions for use are usually printed on the label.

Many homeopathic physicians suggest that remedies be used as follows: Take

one dose and wait for a response. If improvement is seen, continue to wait

and let the remedy work. If improvement lags significantly or has clearly

stopped, another dose may be taken. The frequency of dosage varies with the

condition and the individual. Sometimes a dose may be required several

times an hour; other times a dose may be indicated several times a day; and

in some situations, one dose per day (or less) can be sufficient.

If no response is seen within a reasonable amount of time, select a

different remedy.

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