Re: Anyone else listen to Q104 in the mornings

[Guest guest]

Ann - I think you have illustrated one area where there is a gap in service or help for individuals with disabilities - that of true participation in church. This is a subject near and dear to me. Christ didn't come for the "perfect" or "typical" individuals, but for everyone, including their disabilities. And I think the church is the one place that should/needs to accept everyone. Well, I've been musing over in my mind what exactly is needed in the churches that individuals with disabilities and their families need to be accepted and feel accepted in the church. Any thoughts? Chris******************************************* and I were at Sunday Mass one day. We went to the 10:30 mass(big mistake) which is usually jam packed. We ended up standing behind the last pew ,with an older couple sitting down in the pew. kept asking me questions about how my dad and Jesus died. We were wispering and I was trying to quiet him even more. The older gentleman turned around and said to us Can't you at least be quiet during the Consecration? I thought we were being quiet, but I guess not enough. Anyhow, we left before receiving Communion and I called the Pastor the next day. We agreed that we should go to thelater mass. The only thing that I can think about that couple is that I feel sorry for their grandchildren. Ann

[Guest guest]

I have been very fortunate that our church has been extremely

supportive. Most everyone in the congregation accepts him for who

he is, will attempt to talk to him, play with him, and include him

in things. Our pastor is one of our biggest supporters as she

herself has 2 children who are bipolar and she is also a

lsw/therapist who has worked with some families with Autistic

children. I have a bit of an advantage as I am in charge of the

sunday school and nursery at our church so I have designed our

nursery to have everything in it that will not only make Kiernan

comfortable but all children. Next I'm working on the classrooms,

which we have been remodeling and painting murals on the walls.

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> In a message dated 6/18/2006 10:12:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> marottafamily@... writes:

>

> Ann - I think you have illustrated one area where there is a

gap in

> service or help for individuals with disabilities - that of true

participation

> in church. This is a subject near and dear to me. Christ didn't

come for the

> " perfect " or " typical " individuals, but for everyone, including

their

> disabilities. And I think the church is the one place that

should/needs to accept

> everyone. Well, I've been musing over in my mind what exactly is

needed in

> the churches that individuals with disabilities and their

families need to be

> accepted and feel accepted in the church. Any thoughts? Chris

>

>

>

> Yes, there should be awareness provided to all the congregation

about the

> disability. Then I think people should be charged to think of

ways to include

> this child/person in the normal activities of the church. What

needs to be

> altered to make that happen? Who could change something and

help? People

> should ask these questions. Maybe the church should adopt an

oversight

> committee that takes care of those concerns?

>

>

> Roxanna

> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men

to do

> nothing.

> Edmond Burke

>

[Guest guest]

Wow! Sounds like you found a good church! Is it a small church?

Chris

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 6/18/2006 10:12:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> > marottafamily@ writes:

> >

> > Ann - I think you have illustrated one area where there is

a

> gap in

> > service or help for individuals with disabilities - that of true

> participation

> > in church. This is a subject near and dear to me. Christ

didn't

> come for the

> > " perfect " or " typical " individuals, but for everyone, including

> their

> > disabilities. And I think the church is the one place that

> should/needs to accept

> > everyone. Well, I've been musing over in my mind what exactly

is

> needed in

> > the churches that individuals with disabilities and their

> families need to be

> > accepted and feel accepted in the church. Any thoughts? Chris

> >

> >

> >

> > Yes, there should be awareness provided to all the congregation

> about the

> > disability. Then I think people should be charged to think of

> ways to include

> > this child/person in the normal activities of the church. What

> needs to be

> > altered to make that happen? Who could change something and

> help? People

> > should ask these questions. Maybe the church should adopt an

> oversight

> > committee that takes care of those concerns?

> >

> >

> > Roxanna

> > The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good

men

> to do

> > nothing.

> > Edmond Burke

> >

>

[Guest guest]

It is a relatively small church... I think our active members total

about 120 families.. with our attendance at around 80 people each

Sunday.. we have quite a few families.. a few social workers.. and

alot of adopted children.. they do a ton of outreach with different

groups but it's one of those churches that when you come in.. they

make you feel like family and not a visitor.. and they will help in

any way possible. With my son's first diagnosis of being hearing

impaired.. we were crushed when we couldn't afford the hearing aids

since you have to pay for 80% upfront before they'll let you walk

out of the ENT's office with them.. when my pastor found out.. the

church pitched in and came up with about 70% of the money we needed

and family helped with the rest. When we finally figured out that

he was misdiagnosed and he wasn't going to need the hearing aids

(Thank heavens for help me grow and the cleveland hearing and speech

center) they never asked for the money back but that we donate the

hearing aids (we couldn't return them) to another child who's family

could not afford them, which we gladly did through the ENT at CHSC.

Like I said.. they are family!

ok ok.. enough rambling! LOL.... if anyone is in the area and would

like to join us, the church is Brook Park United Methodist, 6220

Rd.. our services are sunday's at 10:30 am.. and everyone is

welcome no matter what their religion, background, or difference.

Hope you are all staying dry! The lightning storms tonight have just

been amazing.. I'm one of the crazy ppl who sit on the porch and

watch them for hours..

J

Olmsted Falls

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 6/18/2006 10:12:47 PM Eastern Standard

Time,

> > > marottafamily@ writes:

> > >

> > > Ann - I think you have illustrated one area where there

is

> a

> > gap in

> > > service or help for individuals with disabilities - that of

true

> > participation

> > > in church. This is a subject near and dear to me. Christ

> didn't

> > come for the

> > > " perfect " or " typical " individuals, but for everyone,

including

> > their

> > > disabilities. And I think the church is the one place that

> > should/needs to accept

> > > everyone. Well, I've been musing over in my mind what

exactly

> is

> > needed in

> > > the churches that individuals with disabilities and their

> > families need to be

> > > accepted and feel accepted in the church. Any thoughts?

Chris

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Yes, there should be awareness provided to all the

congregation

> > about the

> > > disability. Then I think people should be charged to think of

> > ways to include

> > > this child/person in the normal activities of the church.

What

> > needs to be

> > > altered to make that happen? Who could change something and

> > help? People

> > > should ask these questions. Maybe the church should adopt an

> > oversight

> > > committee that takes care of those concerns?

> > >

> > >

> > > Roxanna

> > > The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good

> men

> > to do

> > > nothing.

> > > Edmond Burke

> > >

> >

>